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Title: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: Vesper on November 17, 2016, 02:36:26 PM
So apparantly this was released:
Soundbreaking: Stories from the cutting edge of recording music.

Mark Knopfler demonstrates different guitar techniques and styles on a few different guitars, showcasing their unique tones and advantages.

https://itunes.apple.com/ca/tv-season/soundbreaking-stories-from/id1165149784
http://www.prnewswire.com/news-releases/soundbreaking-stories-from-the-cutting-edge-of-recorded-music-to-debut-november-14-23-2016-on-pbs-300359250.html
http://www.pbs.org/show/soundbreaking/
http://soundbreaking.com/

I can't watch it though, if someone knows another way to watch it, please let me know
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: quizzaciously on November 17, 2016, 02:39:09 PM
WOW! 14:24 of Mark talking about guitars? Shut up and take my money! Thank you for news.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: quizzaciously on November 17, 2016, 04:17:18 PM
I can't buy it from my country's iTunes Store, but in the trailer he just said same things (and I mean SAME things) like in this video:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i_7feGF9TA8

honestly I don't think there'll be some radical and new things, same eggs as before, but from the different side. But interesting nevertheless!
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: Suprlinda on November 18, 2016, 02:32:34 PM
Last night, on my local Public Broadcasting Network station here in the States, they started airing this series on Thursday nights.  It seems to be an interesting show, but haven't progressed to the point of seeing Mark on it yet, just how electrification of music came about, and the individuals involved.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: Suprlinda on November 18, 2016, 04:17:04 PM
I stand corrected.  Just got a schedule for the next week, and it will air tonight, then not till Monday, Tuesday, and Wednesday nights.  It is an 8 part series, so I'm not sure if I missed some of the episodes or if it will continue into next week.  In some locations, it may have started airing on the 14th rather than on the 17th.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 18, 2016, 04:23:26 PM
Seems you can watch on the PBS website but maybe only in the States? Hopefully some clever person can download MK's episode for us. :)
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: FenderBender on November 18, 2016, 05:47:24 PM
Looks like this series might be airing in the UK (cable and satellite) on the 'Sky Arts' channel. At least there is a series called 'Soundbreaking' which begins tonight at 8pm. Hopefully this is one and the same.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: Banjo99uk on November 18, 2016, 07:59:12 PM
A quick google and indeed its a sky arts program. MK will
be on episode 8.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 19, 2016, 11:24:11 AM
Cool, I'll record it.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: FenderBender on November 19, 2016, 01:09:50 PM
Done a bit of research and it appears this series was first aired on Sky Arts earlier in the year and the whole series is available in the UK on the Sky Go on demand service

I've skimmed through a number of episodes and the only contribution from Mark that I have found is a very brief slot in episode 8 where he talks about "brothers in arms".

The iTunes download (USA & Canada only?) is for the unedited series, so I do wonder if the section with Mark demonstrating different guitar techniques was left on the cutting room floor from the broadcast shows
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: quizzaciously on January 11, 2017, 11:42:42 PM
So what's up with this? Amazing distribution these days, I'm willing to pay for the movie, but it's US and Canada only!

Great, so maybe I can buy a DVD or a Blu-Ray with Mark in bonuses? HE'S NOT THERE. Mark is only in US and CA iTunes. Damn!

So apparently, if I want to watch Mark talking about guitars, I need to relocate myself to US and pay 20 dollars to watch 1 bonus. Ouch...
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: quizzaciously on January 11, 2017, 11:54:43 PM
I even can't get it if I'd ask my US friend to gift it for me via iTunes Gifts, because what?

Quote from: Apple
Gifts are only redeemable in the country they are purchased in.

So if someone somehow would manage to get it, please share it with me, there's no way I can get this thing legally.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: Crusty on January 12, 2017, 01:02:50 PM
Eppisodes here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClEKlPX-f-H7rl2L5KrPpaA . But nummber 8 is missing. I could not find Mark, so maybe in 8???
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: quizzaciously on January 12, 2017, 01:41:03 PM
Eppisodes here: https://www.youtube.com/channel/UClEKlPX-f-H7rl2L5KrPpaA . But nummber 8 is missing. I could not find Mark, so maybe in 8???

Thank you for the link! Although Mark is in Season 1 Bonuses only and bonuses obviously isn't for airing or DVDs which is ridiculous.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: jeffreyvr on May 03, 2017, 05:55:36 PM
So this is probably it; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG__SwkV3wg
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: quizzaciously on May 03, 2017, 06:28:33 PM
So this is probably it; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG__SwkV3wg

Yes, I know ;)
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: jbaent on May 03, 2017, 06:33:48 PM
I like it... Mk can very easily create melodies mixing his folk, Celtic, country and jazz licks...
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: jeffreyvr on May 03, 2017, 06:49:59 PM
So this is probably it; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG__SwkV3wg

Yes, I know ;)

Your channel? :P
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: quizzaciously on May 03, 2017, 06:52:46 PM
So this is probably it; https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OG__SwkV3wg

Yes, I know ;)

Your channel? :P

That would be telling :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on May 03, 2017, 07:13:34 PM
Great stuff! Good to hear he still nails those jazz scales and progressions.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: Lis on May 03, 2017, 11:22:54 PM
Does anyone know when the interview took place?
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: MK-47 on May 04, 2017, 12:15:17 AM
Does anyone know when the interview took place?

I was just about to say how great he looks today  :lol your comment woke me up.

My guess is that because of his looks, this interview is from sometime around Privateering but I don't know for sure.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: Masiakasaurus on May 04, 2017, 09:40:33 AM
Wow! The best interview with him I've seen in a long long time (maybe ever?). He is in such a good mood, you can tell he enjoys this setting, just him in the studio with his guitars. And all the noodling and close ups of his '58 LP really did it for me. We didn't have to listen to the entire amplifier story either, which is a big plus. The only improvement I can think of is if he would have his '54 strat there as well...  ;)

BTW, he was playing around with True Love will.... this couldn't be from the KtgC days, right? 10 years is a long time to wait to release an interview. I hope this was done recently, because he looks really well.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: jbaent on May 04, 2017, 10:23:08 AM
Wow! The best interview with him I've seen in a long long time (maybe ever?). He is in such a good mood, you can tell he enjoys this setting, just him in the studio with his guitars. And all the noodling and close ups of his '58 LP really did it for me. We didn't have to listen to the entire amplifier story either, which is a big plus. The only improvement I can think of is if he would have his '54 strat there as well...  ;)

BTW, he was playing around with True Love will.... this couldn't be from the KtgC days, right? 10 years is a long time to wait to release an interview. I hope this was done recently, because he looks really well.

I guess that him playing "True Love Will Never Fade" could means that the MK part was recorded quite long ago, I doubt very much that he will use nowadays that show to explain anything about playing guitar.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: Robson on May 04, 2017, 06:01:49 PM
It's probably nothing new in the years 2007 - 2009 ?
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: quizzaciously on May 04, 2017, 06:50:45 PM
I guess that him playing "True Love Will Never Fade" could means that the MK part was recorded quite long ago, I doubt very much that he will use nowadays that show to explain anything about playing guitar.

I'm pretty sure he played that song because it's one of the easiest and strumming-friendly songs of his over the past 10 years. Let alone it was recorded on the same guitar he was demonstrating the song in the video anyway :)

I don't know when it was recorded, but it was before 2016... Looks like it would fit Get Lucky timeline, but it was in the drawer for so long?
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: quizzaciously on May 04, 2017, 06:54:01 PM
Actually, it fits 2009 timeline very well, because it's on iTunes in 720p only while the rest of the documentary is in 1080p.
So it might be the clue for the time when 1080p wasn't everywhere and 720p was the standard for "HD". Seems plausible.

But, I guess, the real reason why we are so confused with this and discuss this is because Mark's music is timeless!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6zXDo4dL7SU
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: quizzaciously on May 05, 2017, 01:06:28 AM
I made a coub out of my favourite moment in the video. Man, he looks like he heard this guitar for the first time in his life.

https://coub.com/view/ty1c8
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: Eddie Fox on May 05, 2017, 04:58:50 PM
Am I the only one who finds it intriguing that Mark plays so fluidly in these videos but since the end of his SL tour he sounds so damn bored when he plays solos live?
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: quizzaciously on May 05, 2017, 06:23:25 PM
Am I the only one who finds it intriguing that Mark plays so fluidly in these videos but since the end of his SL tour he sounds so damn bored when he plays solos live?

No, I'm with you! But I think it depends on the song. And it all goes down to the setlist thing again and again...
On one hand we have killer solos in Kingdom Of Gold, in other hand overplayed Sultans and Telegraph :hmm
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: Eddie Fox on May 05, 2017, 07:22:05 PM
Am I the only one who finds it intriguing that Mark plays so fluidly in these videos but since the end of his SL tour he sounds so damn bored when he plays solos live?

No, I'm with you! But I think it depends on the song. And it all goes down to the setlist thing again and again...
On one hand we have killer solos in Kingdom Of Gold, in other hand overplayed Sultans and Telegraph :hmm

I saw him live for the last time in 2005 and he knocked it out of the park but after that tour it's been painful to endure SoS, TR and BiA. If you don't wanna play it don't play it at all, that's how I feel. It's a shame because videos like this prove that he still got the touch.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: Lis on May 05, 2017, 08:06:27 PM
I first started going to his concerts in 2012, so I don't have the early days to compare against; however, I don't get the impression he is bored during his solos.  First of all, I think it depends on the mood of the show -- for example, I've been to some shows during the 2015 European tour, where I was not so impressed.  But recalling St. Julien in 2013, and every show of his 2013 NA mini-tour, and the Vancouver and Seattle shows of 2015 -- WOW!!!!!!  No one was bored, least of all MK.   :D :D
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: Eddie Fox on May 05, 2017, 08:26:20 PM
I first started going to his concerts in 2012, so I don't have the early days to compare against; however, I don't get the impression he is bored during his solos.  First of all, I think it depends on the mood of the show -- for example, I've been to some shows during the 2015 European tour, where I was not so impressed.  But recalling St. Julien in 2013, and every show of his 2013 NA mini-tour, and the Vancouver and Seattle shows of 2015 -- WOW!!!!!!  No one was bored, least of all MK.   :D :D

I was talking about guitar solos specifically. I mean, if you listen to previous versions of SoS and BiA prior to Kill to Get Crimson fluidity, passion and that unmistakable sense of cleverness were still there but things changed after that. I don't know, it doesn't feel like he's constructing the solo anymore, he's just there throwing notes in the air, many times making mistakes he would never make back then. And then, all of a sudden, there comes Mark playing Playtime Deluxe like he was 30 all over again. It feels like he can still play great but some songs just don't do it for him anymore and he plays them just because he kinda has to. I know he says that he still enjoys playing Sultans and stuff but I don't think it's true at all.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: dmg on May 08, 2017, 08:00:38 PM
I agree with what you say Ed and it probably has a lot to do with getting older as well as losing interest and less practice.  It was pretty evident last tour that he was playing much better come the end of June, a clear indication that he simply doesn't practice prior to touring nearly at a high enough level.

Lis also has a point in that he plays well if he's in a good mood.  This has always been the case over the years and these days it can really make a difference.

A few people have mentioned his hands trembling which has led me to thinking perhaps he likes a drink?  I must admit that he isn't playing as creamy smooth as he used to, possibly a consequence of this.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: jeffreyvr on May 08, 2017, 08:11:12 PM
I don't believe it has got something to do with drinking, just the effect of getting older I think- that in combination in losing interest after playing the same songs every other night. I hate that I look for his hands shaking now, I see it even in this interview when he applies the slide to his finger. https://youtu.be/OG__SwkV3wg?t=10m43s
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: superval99 on May 08, 2017, 08:17:21 PM


A few people have mentioned his hands trembling which has led me to thinking perhaps he likes a drink?  I must admit that he isn't playing as creamy smooth as he used to, possibly a consequence of this.

 It's much more likely to be age-related or rsi than drink.    I saw him in Manchester on the last tour - 2nd concert and I thought he played extremely well.  I did notice on the video, though, that he gives his right hand a bit of a shake occasionally during solos.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: schmonka on May 09, 2017, 06:32:55 AM
If the average guitar solo's are a result of getting bored and playing the same set not just every night but tour after tour....WHY NOT SHAKE UP THE SETLIST??!!!

Ooops - did I just go and open another can of worms!!??  ha-ha! ;D :lol
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: Love Expresso on May 09, 2017, 07:43:48 AM
I think it has a lot to do with feeling safe in knowing the chords, and knowing the lyrics. I think we might expect too much of him in saying he should be able to change songs more often... In 2015, he even shook up the lyrics of Sultans (!) very often. What we call "comfort zone" might be his safety net and an important thing for him to make it possible at all.

The band can play those sets while sleeping.. more than once I thought the person on sage struggling the most and having trouble following the band is Mark himself!

LE

Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: Crusty on May 09, 2017, 09:53:10 AM
He always say in interview that he enjoys to play on the stage, but it look like he become bored very fast. And old songs he play from duty, of course. Maybe he say something else, but he is lieing  ;D Also he does not want to be a guitar superstar more now. For old songs he must be super guitar man, so combination to play "boring songs" and be in role he "must be" is very bad.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: holaknopfler on May 09, 2017, 05:30:00 PM


A few people have mentioned his hands trembling which has led me to thinking perhaps he likes a drink?  I must admit that he isn't playing as creamy smooth as he used to, possibly a consequence of this.

 It's much more likely to be age-related or rsi than drink.    I saw him in Manchester on the last tour - 2nd concert and I thought he played extremely well.  I did notice on the video, though, that he gives his right hand a bit of a shake occasionally during solos.

Indeed, listen to HFB from Cologne 2015; brilliant without a single missed note. He can still do it.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: Love Expresso on May 12, 2017, 09:20:49 AM
Would you judge Cologne 2015 a good and recommendable recording, Hola? Also soundwise? I have some 2015 recordings and they all sound dull and much worse than 2013 to my ears. But I never liked the complete 2015 tour anyway. His worst tour ever.

LE
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: marki on May 12, 2017, 09:24:13 AM
Yet, the best they've had so far... :-X
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: dmg on May 12, 2017, 12:27:45 PM
Yet, the best they've had so far... :-X

Maybe Guy got paid more.  :lol

I agree with LE and thought the recordings were pretty bad.  On the whole they actually make the concerts sound worse than they were and the very few audience recordings out there are far more representative of the tour.  Woodinville is probably the best recording IMO.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: superval99 on May 12, 2017, 03:51:11 PM
Yet, the best they've had so far... :-X


I agree with LE and thought the recordings were pretty bad.  On the whole they actually make the concerts sound worse than they were and the very few audience recordings out there are far more representative of the tour.  Woodinville is probably the best recording IMO.

I agree that on the whole the 2015 recordings were of much poorer quality than 2010 or 2013.   I find the Newcastle concert too painful to listen to, but I am enjoying the Manchester one which seems better sound and performance.    The concerts I listen to most are from 2010, especially Manchester and also some of those from 2013.   
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: rmarques821 on May 12, 2017, 05:03:08 PM
Regarding the shaking and the mistakes he usually makes nowadays, it's normal and understandable, I suppose.
He is almost 70, we can't expect him to be able to play like On Every Street tour when he was on his 40's.

To be honest, I think it won't take long before SoS stops being played live because he just can't play the twiddly bits at the end...just look at the Sevilla 2015 concert where he completely fucked up. But it's completely normal, considering his age and other factors. Time catches up to all of us.

I am just glad he is still recording new songs and touring, even if he doesn't need to.
Title: Re: Soundbreaking: Mark Knopfler on guitars
Post by: holaknopfler on May 13, 2017, 01:28:23 PM
Would you judge Cologne 2015 a good and recommendable recording, Hola? Also soundwise? I have some 2015 recordings and they all sound dull and much worse than 2013 to my ears. But I never liked the complete 2015 tour anyway. His worst tour ever.

LE

The soundboard is not so good, my audience recording is :-) quite good versions of a lot of songs on that one.