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boring repetative set lists
« on: October 16, 2011, 06:49:25 PM »
How is it that Mark shows such utter disregard to the many who see more than one show this tour?

Folks pay 70 - 80 pounds per show on top of their travel and lodging fees to follow Mark, why is it that he chooses to ignore their presence and play the same show almost every night?

Why does he disregard his fans who collect live recordings by giving them the same show nightly?

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Re: boring repetative set lists
« Reply #1 on: October 16, 2011, 06:54:14 PM »
How is it that Mark shows such utter disregard to the many who see more than one show this tour?

Folks pay 70 - 80 pounds per show on top of their travel and lodging fees to follow Mark, why is it that he chooses to ignore their presence and play the same show almost every night?

Why does he disregard his fans who collect live recordings by giving them the same show nightly?

OK, firstly he isn't considering the less than 1 percent of an audience who may be attending multiple shows, he's catering for the thousands who will only see one.

Nobody forces people to see multiple shows, he's been doing the same thing for 30 years so anybody going is likely to know what to expect.

I'm quite certain he doesn't give a fuck about people who collect bootlegs, although he has always had a liberal policy on taping, at least audio.

And quite frankly I'm disgusted by Dylan treating his fans with contempt by playing the same two encores every night, just who does he think he is? ;)
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Re: boring repetative set lists
« Reply #2 on: October 16, 2011, 07:09:18 PM »
How is it that Mark shows such utter disregard to the many who see more than one show this tour?

Folks pay 70 - 80 pounds per show on top of their travel and lodging fees to follow Mark, why is it that he chooses to ignore their presence and play the same show almost every night?

Why does he disregard his fans who collect live recordings by giving them the same show nightly?

OK, firstly he isn't considering the less than 1 percent of an audience who may be attending multiple shows, he's catering for the thousands who will only see one.

Nobody forces people to see multiple shows, he's been doing the same thing for 30 years so anybody going is likely to know what to expect.

I'm quite certain he doesn't give a fuck about people who collect bootlegs, although he has always had a liberal policy on taping, at least audio.

And quite frankly I'm disgusted by Dylan treating his fans with contempt by playing the same two encores every night, just who does he think he is? ;)

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Re: boring repetative set lists
« Reply #3 on: October 16, 2011, 07:10:34 PM »
I've never paid more than
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Re: boring repetative set lists
« Reply #4 on: October 16, 2011, 07:10:50 PM »
It's obviously a set they have found that works, so why change it?

Also, playing the same songs night after night will enable the band to find something in the songs and change and perfect them.

Mark never plays anything he doesn't want to just to please the crowds because he feels he has lost the incentive to play them now.

He's only on stage for a little over an hour and does change his set sometimes:

Bonaparte/A Night In Summer
Why Aye Man/What It Is
Speedway/So Far Away (lol)
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Re: boring repetative set lists
« Reply #5 on: October 16, 2011, 07:12:04 PM »
So you believe he 'isn't considering' a segment of his fan base who see multiple shows, and he 'doesn't give a fuck' about those who collect live recordings of his show?

And you are OK with that?

"Mark never plays anything he doesn't want to just to please the crowds because he feels he has lost the incentive to play them now"

So he doesn't play for the pleasure of his fans but does what he wants ie: Mark being Mark?
« Last Edit: October 16, 2011, 07:14:54 PM by arabia »

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Re: boring repetative set lists
« Reply #6 on: October 16, 2011, 07:13:42 PM »
So you believe he 'isn't considering' a segment of his fan base who see multiple shows, and he 'doesn't give a fuck' about those who collect live recordings of his show?

And you are OK with that?

I am. He can't please every one so he chooses to please himself, which pleases most people. I am pleased  ;D

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Re: boring repetative set lists
« Reply #7 on: October 16, 2011, 07:16:11 PM »
So you believe he 'isn't considering' a segment of his fan base who see multiple shows, and he 'doesn't give a fuck' about those who collect live recordings of his show?

And you are OK with that?

I am. He can't please every one so he chooses to please himself, which pleases most people. I am pleased  ;D
 

We can also recognise the songs he is singing at a reasonable volume that doesn't destroy our hearing!   ;)
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Re: boring repetative set lists
« Reply #8 on: October 16, 2011, 07:17:37 PM »
If Mark is playing songs that he doesn't want to play then he'll get grumpy and stop touring. There is nothing worse for an artist to play something you don't want, and I respect that. His playing and singing is better than in years so why should I complain?
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Re: boring repetative set lists
« Reply #9 on: October 16, 2011, 07:21:05 PM »
It's obviously a set they have found that works, so why change it?

Also, playing the same songs night after night will enable the band to find something in the songs and change and perfect them.

Mark never plays anything he doesn't want to just to please the crowds because he feels he has lost the incentive to play them now.

He's only on stage for a little over an hour and does change his set sometimes:

Bonaparte/A Night In Summer
Why Aye Man/What It Is
Speedway/So Far Away (lol)
Add "Haul Away" to the list of songs he is 'not' moving in and out of the setlist
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Re: boring repetative set lists
« Reply #10 on: October 16, 2011, 07:24:04 PM »
OK I was just having some fun with you. It is obvious that 'Bob being Bob' in regards to fanatically guarding his privacy and space was a bother to some, so I was just wanting to point out that 'Mark being Mark' was also an ongoing phenomena and that it appears to be accepted by most here. ;D ;D ;D

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Re: boring repetative set lists
« Reply #11 on: October 16, 2011, 07:26:35 PM »
OK I was just having some fun with you. It is obvious that 'Bob being Bob' in regards to fanatically guarding his privacy and space was a bother to some, so I was just wanting to point out that 'Mark being Mark' was also an ongoing phenomena and that it appears to be accepted by most here. ;D ;D ;D
 
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but it was an interesting question, as many here (and on GF forum  :-\ )do moan about the setlists being what they are.

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Re: boring repetative set lists
« Reply #12 on: October 16, 2011, 07:27:17 PM »
OK I was just having some fun with you. It is obvious that 'Bob being Bob' in regards to fanatically guarding his privacy and space was a bother to some, so I was just wanting to point out that 'Mark being Mark' was also an ongoing phenomena and that it appears to be accepted by most here. ;D ;D ;D
 

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Re: boring repetative set lists
« Reply #13 on: October 16, 2011, 07:27:49 PM »
I'm ok with him not changing the set lists night to night, I'd be more critical that his last 2 tours and this mini one have consisted of the a lot of the same songs.  Still that's better than nothing at all.

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Re: boring repetative set lists
« Reply #14 on: October 16, 2011, 07:33:25 PM »
I'm ok with him not changing the set lists night to night, I'd be more critical that his last 2 tours and this mini one have consisted of the a lot of the same songs.  Still that's better than nothing at all.

It does make collecting bootlegs easier. It didn't take me long to figure out that I only needed one or at most two shows from his previous tours to have a complete collection.
I still remain mystified that an artist with a healthy back catalog of songs would prefer to not play them. :-\

I like what he is playing now, although I would prefer Speedway over So Far Away From Me, and I am only seeing one show so my grumbling is restricted to my interest in collecting recordings of shows.

 

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