The song where the Sultans of Swing riff came from?

[Dear Old Thing]

Any help with a link to the Katner song? YouTube not helping me.

Only this, but I don't hear anything like an SOS riff, except maybe at the very beginning:

Val, I am not able to watch that video in Germany, but I managed to get a glimpse of the song from this:

http://www.amazon.com/Million/dp/B001D72XOA

if you listen to it, especially when the vocals stop and the piano part starts, I would go so far and say that this is some real plagiarism by our great man!! 

DOT

[dmg]

So Dire Straits signature tune is just another Miss You Blues.

[Dear Old Thing]

Maybe that pub band played this song and it was remembered by Mark half-consiously...  The songs itself have nothing in common... but it is really perplexing..

Dear Old Thing

[dmg]

Maybe that pub band played this song and it was remembered by Mark half-consiously...  The songs itself have nothing in common... but it is really perplexing..

Dear Old Thing

That's how Mark explained how Bonnie Banks... found it's way into WII, isn't it.

[superval99]

Dear Old Thing (will I ever get used to it?)     My clip is the same as yours, but if I were to hear this song without having to compare it to the SOS riff I would never have recognised the similarity in a "Million" years!

[vgonis]

Well, I have that record and although I like it, it never reminded me of DS. If you break it down, pin point and listen again you can most always manage to get something out of it. I haven't, though. 

[superval99]

......however, the piano part does remind me of something that I know very well, but can't bring it to mind right now.    I'll keep thinking!   

[superval99]

I've remembered, but it's a very small similarity to "Tangled Up In Blue" in the piano part.

[Ingo]

Yes, that's the one, thank you Tunnel85
Have not heard it for some 15 years, and how wrong I was: Paul instead of John, 1971 instead of 75, only the title was right

I was not to say that SoS is a plagiat or something was stolen, I guess - as some others already said - this is just the way songwriting works: you soak up things from all sides  and possibly years later something comes out of your head, maybe even yourself have no idea what came from where, like the Bonnie Banks thing in wii..

@Foma: not the same key but almost (C#m instead of Dm)

While talking about similarities: Randy Newman's bad news from home (Land of Dream album) / Iron Hand (melody and chord structure)
In this case Mark even stated how much he liked this song, he even produced it

[2manyguitars]

Years ago we used to run SOS into Fleetwood mac 'you can go your own way', again the chorus has the identical chord structure. But with western musical scales, and a limited set of notes people are bound to 'copy' one and other either intentionally or not.

Another one I noticed is One world off BIA, its Dylan's Blind Willie Mctell to a note!

[vgonis]

Great work ladies and gents! I have a knack for similar songs, because I find out  about other great songs and artists! As for the similarities, I guess lifting a pattern is fine if you create a much better song!

[JF]

As for the similarities, I guess lifting a pattern is fine if you create a much better song!

agree. My sweet lord is far better than he's so fine IMHO

[vgonis]

JF, if it was a flop they wouldn't have raised claims...They wouldn't even know about it.  It was a success and they went after it. Great song indeed.

[xxFordiexx]

It's Similar but certainly not the same....

Same could be said for thousands of songs, Every chord and their structures have been used a million times. It's unavoidable.

I know which is the better song out of Sultans and Million though lol

[nababo]

Hi there

I'm ressurecting this post cause I was listening to Rosanne Cash's "Oh yes I can" and the intro is way too similar to Sultans of Swing's intro. Anyone else noticed the same?