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Re: chuck ainlay not on new record?
« Reply #15 on: September 01, 2014, 05:10:59 PM »
All the songs must have been well prepared by Mark and Guy. The whole range is possible: Rock/Blues/Roots music with the rhythm overdubb that Guy has mentioned, folk/celtic with the folkies, trumpet and sax swing etc. with Nigel etc. Everything is possible, but the rhythm overdubbs and folkies were short time in, so everything was well prepared and prerecorded. Just curious a.) how many songs are on the new record b.) which style is more focussed on c.) if the three songs like Bonfire night etc. are on it d.) the name of the record (new album is boring) e.) the topic of the songs and the lyrics

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Re: chuck ainlay not on new record?
« Reply #16 on: September 02, 2014, 03:29:50 PM »
Answer to C is no, according to Guy.
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Re: chuck ainlay not on new record?
« Reply #17 on: September 02, 2014, 08:10:20 PM »
Answer to C is no, according to Guy.
Two skinny kids, right. But i thought always that Bonfire night would be a new song for this record? Was it recorded for another album? Have i missed something?

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Re: chuck ainlay not on new record?
« Reply #18 on: September 02, 2014, 10:26:12 PM »
I am interested to hear an album without Chuck involved. In fact it would be interested to hear an album by MK produced by someone different altogether who challenges his approach, e.g Clapton at the helm would be interesting, or a more contemporary producer, like Rick Rubin with Johnny Cash for example. The results could be interesting.

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Re: chuck ainlay not on new record?
« Reply #19 on: September 02, 2014, 10:39:51 PM »
I am interested to hear an album without Chuck involved. In fact it would be interested to hear an album by MK produced by someone different altogether who challenges his approach, e.g Clapton at the helm would be interesting, or a more contemporary producer, like Rick Rubin with Johnny Cash for example. The results could be interesting.

Agreed,  I would go for T Bone Burnett.
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Re: chuck ainlay not on new record?
« Reply #20 on: September 02, 2014, 10:40:27 PM »
Or Daniel Lanois.
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Re: chuck ainlay not on new record?
« Reply #21 on: September 02, 2014, 10:42:49 PM »
I am interested to hear an album without Chuck involved. In fact it would be interested to hear an album by MK produced by someone different altogether who challenges his approach, e.g Clapton at the helm would be interesting, or a more contemporary producer, like Rick Rubin with Johnny Cash for example. The results could be interesting.

Agreed,  I would go for T Bone Burnett.

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Re: chuck ainlay not on new record?
« Reply #22 on: September 02, 2014, 11:41:56 PM »
I am interested to hear an album without Chuck involved. In fact it would be interested to hear an album by MK produced by someone different altogether who challenges his approach, e.g Clapton at the helm would be interesting, or a more contemporary producer, like Rick Rubin with Johnny Cash for example. The results could be interesting.

Agreed,  I would go for T Bone Burnett.

I second that opinion!

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Re: chuck ainlay not on new record?
« Reply #23 on: September 03, 2014, 12:09:33 AM »
I'd get rid of GF as a producer as well. MK's albums are over produced and too highly polished for my tastes these days. Most of his songs only come alive played live.

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Re: chuck ainlay not on new record?
« Reply #24 on: September 03, 2014, 07:54:56 AM »
Yes, example for the bad, polished thing is the Privateering track, with this industrial sound and the "intellectual" clapping, which goes on my nerves, why are they changing the clapping in the second going, too complicated for a seaman's song.. plus the band part sounds as you say, polished...

Examples for songs which I like the way they are produced:
Wanderlust, What It Is, 5.15 am, Boom Like That, Sucker Row especially, Fish And the Bird, Secondary Waltz, NOT Punish the Monkey, Before Gas & TV, Get Lucky, Redbud Tree, Gator Blood, Today is Okay...

Some songs need a "polished" approach like the phantastic track Hard Shoulder which is perfectly produced from my point of view..

How much I would love another "rough" sounding recording like Making Movies. Also Love Over Gold sounded, as tricky as it was, very live recorded.

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Re: chuck ainlay not on new record?
« Reply #25 on: September 03, 2014, 08:59:42 AM »
Answer to C is no, according to Guy.
Two skinny kids, right. But i thought always that Bonfire night would be a new song for this record? Was it recorded for another album? Have i missed something?

Two skinny kids is from Stp sessions, Bonfire night from Get Lucky sessions.
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Re: chuck ainlay not on new record?
« Reply #26 on: September 03, 2014, 09:22:50 AM »
Most of his songs only come alive played live.

Agreed!   After I've heard a song played live, I prefer to listen to the live recordings, rather than the studio version.   :)
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Re: chuck ainlay not on new record?
« Reply #27 on: September 03, 2014, 10:03:06 AM »
Most of his songs only come alive played live.

Agreed!   After I've heard a song played live, I prefer to listen to the live recordings, rather than the studio version.   :)

Maybe it's an equipment issue in my case, but when comparing the "Corned Beef City" studio vs. live version I find that the studio one sounds muffled and too bassy. Listening to the live version it opens up a bit more. Is it just me or..?

But in defense to the Privateering-album, there are still some nicely produced rough cut tracks like "Got to have something" or "Gator Blood".
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Re: chuck ainlay not on new record?
« Reply #28 on: September 03, 2014, 10:13:37 AM »
Most of his songs only come alive played live.

Agreed!   After I've heard a song played live, I prefer to listen to the live recordings, rather than the studio version.   :)

Maybe it's an equipment issue in my case, but when comparing the "Corned Beef City" studio vs. live version I find that the studio one sounds muffled and too bassy. Listening to the live version it opens up a bit more. Is it just me or..?

But in defense to the Privateering-album, there are still some nicely produced rough cut tracks like "Got to have something" or "Gator Blood".

No, it's not just you BR.  I find a lot of MKs albums too bassy for my liking.   One example, from TRD, "A Place Where We Used to Live" is really bass heavy.   Maybe it's an equipment issue for me too!    :think
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Re: chuck ainlay not on new record?
« Reply #29 on: September 03, 2014, 10:43:13 AM »
Go Love is an excellent example as well
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