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Author Topic: Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 for Bob Dylan  (Read 12105 times)

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Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 for Bob Dylan
« Reply #15 on: October 15, 2016, 03:07:37 PM »
I like Bob Dylan and i respect his poetry a lot.
But in my opinion, Leonard Cohen should get the Nobel prize.

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Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 for Bob Dylan
« Reply #16 on: October 15, 2016, 03:43:48 PM »
I like Bob Dylan and i respect his poetry a lot.
But in my opinion, Leonard Cohen should get the Nobel prize.

I don't think that it would set up the tradition for giving the Prize for songwriters, so sadly for Leonard, I don't think he would get one.

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Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 for Bob Dylan
« Reply #17 on: October 15, 2016, 05:39:53 PM »
I am really happy for Dylan despite the fact that my good friend has been a translator of Murakami's books over many years and I was once lucky enough to take part in translation editing of the novel 1Q84.  :)

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Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 for Bob Dylan
« Reply #18 on: October 16, 2016, 03:24:43 PM »
I like Bob Dylan and i respect his poetry a lot.
But in my opinion, Leonard Cohen should get the Nobel prize.
I don't think that it would set up the tradition for giving the Prize for songwriters, so sadly for Leonard, I don't think he would get one.
funny to read Leonard's comment on the prize: giving the nobel prize to bob is like giving a prize to the mount everest for being the highest mountain"
think that sort of ends any discussion. lol


« Last Edit: October 17, 2016, 10:08:14 PM by Pottel »
any Knopfler, Floyd or Dylan will do....

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Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 for Bob Dylan
« Reply #19 on: October 16, 2016, 06:18:02 PM »
Obama also won the peace Nobel prize...  :hmm
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Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 for Bob Dylan
« Reply #20 on: October 16, 2016, 07:35:19 PM »
Obama also won the peace Nobel prize...  :hmm
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A rather sick joke. :disbelief
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Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 for Bob Dylan
« Reply #21 on: October 19, 2016, 08:17:21 PM »
Yes, it is a terrific honour for Dylan but, yes,  there have been naysayers and gainsayers  vocal in expressing their views. This carping seems to revolve around the notion that Dylan's works are not worthy of being considered literature. I would have thought literature had a pretty wide definition and Alfred Nobel seems to have held much the same point of view.

Over the years, the Nobel committee has given the literature award to some writers with whom I was not familiar and with whose works I am still unfamiliar. For once, this is someone whose works I not only know but know well. I suspect the same is true for many other people across the world. For this reason alone, this award should be welcomed.

Clearly, Dylan writes for the stage not the page (well, mainly, anyway) but should this count against him? I think not! Previous Nobel prizewinners in Literature have included Harold Pinter and the recently deceased Dario Fo, both of whom wrote principally for the stage.

Dylan's works have probably been heard and/or read more widely than almost any other Nobel prizewinner in recent times. Is this not be lauded?

As for Dylan's place being in popular culture, we should remember that Shakespeare, in his time, wrote his plays not just to be performed but also to be popular. Were he writing plays today, would this invalidate his being considered for this prize? Let alone winning it one year?

Mark's tribute to Mr Bob is  much to be welcomed. Popular music in recent decades would have been very different but for Dylan.  You may criticise his voice (many do), his performances (some great, some not, some uneven), even some of his albums but his body of work is enormous -  and he's still on the road, year-in year-out. 

These "Biobibliographical Notes", from the official Nobel website, give some idea of the reasoning behind the Academy's decision:

https://www.nobelprize.org/nobel_prizes/literature/laureates/2016/bio-bibl.html
« Last Edit: October 21, 2016, 01:19:46 PM by twm »

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Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 for Bob Dylan
« Reply #22 on: October 20, 2016, 06:30:44 AM »
Bob has declined the Nobel prize..
He will explain more on saturday press conference.

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Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 for Bob Dylan
« Reply #23 on: October 20, 2016, 08:33:56 AM »
Source?

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Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 for Bob Dylan
« Reply #24 on: October 20, 2016, 09:02:44 AM »
Source of the "Biobibliographical Notes", do you mean?

As far as I'm aware, the Academy itself. How the Academy sourced the information, I do not know. Since the Academy does not reveal who is under consideration in advance of the decision, it cannot have been Dylan or his management team. And there is nothing in those "Notes" that is not publicly available information. 

If you were so inclined, you could have compiled the list yourself. A trawl of the internet would get you most if not all of it. I imagine that there are many Dylan fans who might have generated an even longer list, especially of the foreign language books and the list of articles.

People have been suggesting Dylan for this prize for many years now. As I recall, it was an academic based at a college in Virginia, USA who started it but I'd have to check the person's name and the year.  I'd guess that it has been something like 15 years.


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Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 for Bob Dylan
« Reply #25 on: October 20, 2016, 09:17:32 AM »
I guess LE asked for source of Dylan has declined the Nobel prize...
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Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 for Bob Dylan
« Reply #26 on: October 20, 2016, 09:22:28 AM »
By the way, I love this video with guy comparing performances of Paul McCartney and Bob Dylan. And Bob Dylan reminds me someone... :lol

 

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Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 for Bob Dylan
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Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 for Bob Dylan
« Reply #28 on: October 20, 2016, 09:51:39 AM »
twm,  as it is always great to read your nice posts, I do feel bad only a little bit to have made you writing this long answer. I indeed was referring to the next post about Bob declining the prize. I am not totally convinced by the way. I read a lot about the commitee not being able to get in touch with him. This might lead to confused news.

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Re: Nobel Prize in Literature 2016 for Bob Dylan
« Reply #29 on: October 24, 2016, 08:48:41 AM »
Bob has declined the Nobel prize..
He will explain more on saturday press conference.

Is there any article, video etc of that press conference?
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