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Author Topic: Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul  (Read 67425 times)

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Re: Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul
« Reply #15 on: October 24, 2016, 08:40:55 AM »
Showing up on dealer websites now withe prices

https://www.thomann.de/gb/gibson_58_les_paul_mark_knopfler_vos_2.htm?feedid=2724

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Re: Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul
« Reply #16 on: October 24, 2016, 03:34:29 PM »
Andertons have a picture of aged one already: https://www.andertons.co.uk/p/LP58MKSBNH1/solid-body-electric-guitars/gibson-custom-shop-mark-knopfler-58-reissue-les-paul-vos

And so what? It looks nothing like MK's 1958 Les Paul! Where's the hang tag's shadow? How could they build MK's LP without it? Sort of.
This is not "exact replica" as stated, but rather "expensive guitar loosely based on MK's 1958 LP". And why top is so flamed, anyway?

I'm saying this not because I can't afford the instrument, but because of lack of understanding.


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Re: Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul
« Reply #17 on: October 24, 2016, 03:54:12 PM »
It will be for sale 3 model, yes? VOS, Aged and Aged/Signed. Maybe, I mistake? But VOS is like look form almost from facktory no? SO no hangign tag schadow.

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Re: Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul
« Reply #18 on: October 24, 2016, 04:39:23 PM »
And so what? It looks nothing like MK's 1958 Les Paul! Where's the hang tag's shadow? How could they build MK's LP without it? Sort of.
This is not "exact replica" as stated, but rather "expensive guitar loosely based on MK's 1958 LP". And why top is so flamed, anyway?

Thank you for the picture. I think this is the VOS model meaning that it has same specs than Knopfler´s guitar. Actually, Knopfler´s LP had once flamed top but now it has been worn down to "unburst".
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Re: Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul
« Reply #19 on: October 24, 2016, 04:55:43 PM »
And so what? It looks nothing like MK's 1958 Les Paul! Where's the hang tag's shadow? How could they build MK's LP without it? Sort of.
This is not "exact replica" as stated, but rather "expensive guitar loosely based on MK's 1958 LP". And why top is so flamed, anyway?

Thank you for the picture. I think this is the VOS model meaning that it has same specs than Knopfler´s guitar. Actually, Knopfler´s LP had once flamed top but now it has been wear down to "unburst".

Can't wait to see aged version then! And it really can go from flamed top to plain top just like that? I like the look of plain tops very much.

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Re: Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul
« Reply #20 on: October 24, 2016, 06:14:36 PM »
Hey guys! P#rn is not allowed at amit!

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Re: Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul
« Reply #21 on: October 24, 2016, 07:01:09 PM »
And why this guitar would be special? The fender has his sign in the guitar, would this Gibson will have it too?

I don't know.much about guitars but it looks like another 58 or 59 les Paul to me...
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Re: Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul
« Reply #22 on: October 24, 2016, 07:30:22 PM »
This guy has one already:

http://www.mylespaul.com/forums/showthread.php?t=378388

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Re: Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul
« Reply #23 on: October 24, 2016, 07:34:50 PM »
I don't believe it has MK's stenciled signature anywhere. MK is however is in the serial number. I should be able to post some high res images of a VOS in the next day or two. MK017 is on its way to me as I type this.

As for aged models, I highly doubt that it will be aged to be identical to Mark's. That having been said, I have never really understood why the general guitar player/collector would want an "aged" guitar unless they are trying to give the appearance on stage that they are playing an original. Aged is just not my thing. That having been said, the Aged models (unsigned) should be hitting the dealers in the next week or two. The signed models are alleged to be signed by Mark next month in London according to the rumor mill.

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Re: Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul
« Reply #24 on: October 24, 2016, 08:19:44 PM »
Another pic from Gibson's instagram. I believe this is now the "Real Deal".


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Re: Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul
« Reply #25 on: October 25, 2016, 07:29:12 AM »
Another pic from Gibson's instagram. I believe this is now the "Real Deal".



That picture is way better than the other ones, but that seems to be a problem every time Gibson bring out a new Collector's Choice guitar. The pictures they take look nothing like the real thing, but when you see the guitars side by side or an owner takes pictures himself, they are indistinguishable most of the time. Why they can't get someone to take good photos, I just don't understand, you'd expect better from such a brand.
 
Also, the flame in the top doesn't change with age, but rather the redness of the sunburst, which fades away due to sunlight. Peter Green's famous Les Paul, for example, has practically no red left.

Now if only I could find the money to buy this gem...
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Re: Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul
« Reply #26 on: October 25, 2016, 08:17:02 AM »
You are right, the flame doesn't change with age but it can be very difficult to photograph. I have a very flamey LP but on certain lights it can look like a plain top.

There will probably be a mix of flames and Plains on this run for commercial reasons - even though the original is plain, people just love flame.
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Re: Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul
« Reply #27 on: October 25, 2016, 04:10:33 PM »
You are right, the flame doesn't change with age but it can be very difficult to photograph. I have a very flamey LP but on certain lights it can look like a plain top.

Yes of course, sorry for my post. Those old LPs had problem that sunburst went to "unburst".

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Re: Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul
« Reply #28 on: October 26, 2016, 04:45:46 PM »
I agree with flame and lighting. I snapped a few shots this morning in bad light just to get them out here, but will play with better lighting in the coming days. To contrast, the first photo was a professionally taken shot from the dealer. You can see the effect lighting has on a flame top. To the naked eye, it doesn't appear to have as much flame as it does in my photos. Also attached are a couple shots of the leatherette bound COA from Gibson.





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Re: Mark Knopfler 1958 Les Paul
« Reply #29 on: October 26, 2016, 05:50:10 PM »
Mark is equally capable of doing $1500 signature guitars and $999999999 signature guitars so that you desperately want them both.

 

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