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Unreleased MK tracks sorted by record???
« on: November 23, 2016, 02:07:23 PM »
In an Italian forum someone checked the ASCAP list we already checked many times before and I guess that they looked at the work id numbers of every track to try to sort them by albums, they also added tracks that are not in ASCAP but that are known by other means...

First, the links, the one of the Italian forum  http://www.knopfleriani.it/kforum/showthread.php?tid=4386

And now, our two threads where we already checked the ASCAP lists:

http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=574.msg8000#msg8000

http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=1961.msg36106#msg36106

This is the list of MK unreleased tracks "Sorted" by records (probably made looking at the work id numbers):

GOLDEN HEART

SPEEDWAY AT NAZARETH (poi pubblicata su STP)
MY CLAIM TO FAME
GRAVY TRAIN
WHAT HAVE I GOT TO DO
TALL ORDER BABY
BATTING FOR ENGLAND
COLD TURKEY
SECONDARY WALTZ (poi pubblicata su KTGK)
NO WONDER HE'S CONFUSED


SAILING TO PHILADELPHIA

RED STAGGERWING (poi pubblicata su ATR)
HOUSE ON THE TOP OF THE HILL
BONAFIDE
I'M DOING BETTER NOW
PYROMAN
CROSS MY HEART AND HOPE TO DIE
DONKEY TOWN (poi pubblicata su ATR)
THE LONG HIGHWAY
CAMERADO
LET'S SEE YOU
DO AMERICA
TWO SKINNY KIDS
WALK ON DOWN THAT ROAD (probabile)
A CUT ABOVE THE REST (probabile)
DON'T MEAN A THING
I DIDN'T EXPECT THERE TO BE YOU (probabile)
YOU'RE NOT EVEN GONE
IT'S BEEN A WHILE
UNSENT


THE RAGPICKER'S DREAM

JONI'S A WAITRESS
I DUG UP A DIAMOND (poi pubblicata su ATR)
NOT IN THE FRAME
SMALL POTATOES


SHANGRI-LA

SUMMER OF LOVE
OLDEST SURFER ON THE BEACH (probabile, poi incisa da JIMMY BUFFETT)


KILL TO GET CRIMSON

YOU WIN SOME (GET LUCKY first version?)
REMEMBRANCE DAY (poi pubblicata su GL)


GET LUCKY

HOME BOY
EARLY BIRD
PULLING DOWN THE RIDE
GOOD AS GOLD
TIME IN THE SUN
OLD SOLDIERS WON'T SIGN ON
BONFIRE NIGHT
WHEN I'M ON MY OWN (probabile)
WHEN IT'S OVER (probabile)


PRIVATEERING

OCCUPATION BLUES
RIVER OF GROG
FOLLOW THE RIBBON
YOUR PERFECT SONG
I NEVER MET A ONE LIKE YOU (incisa poi dagli HOT RIZE)


TRACKER

.38 SPECIAL
MY HEART HAS NEVER CHANGED
TERMINAL OF TRIBUTE TO
HEART OF OAK
TIME WILL END ALL SORROW
OKLAHOMA PONIES
HOT DOG
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Re: Unreleased MK tracks sorted by record???
« Reply #1 on: November 23, 2016, 10:49:32 PM »
Long Highway was surely a leftover from On Every Street.  DS played it on tour in Dublin and on the Tim White Sessions.

Still, there's an whole album there and I'm sure at least 10 times more we don't know about.
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Re: Unreleased MK tracks sorted by record???
« Reply #2 on: November 23, 2016, 11:25:50 PM »
Dreams of a box set of bootlegs.... alas
Hey, i`ve got a truffle dog - finally a song the ordinary man can relate too!

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Re: Unreleased MK tracks sorted by record???
« Reply #3 on: November 24, 2016, 09:06:45 AM »
Long Highway was surely a leftover from On Every Street.  DS played it on tour in Dublin and on the Tim White Sessions.

Still, there's an whole album there and I'm sure at least 10 times more we don't know about.

Yes, there are cases of song that had been recorded / considered for various records... "Long Highway" was a leftover from On Every Street, probably also from GH and appeared on the What It Is Single...

I know another case, "Pyroman" was recorded for STP, but also for Ragpickers. I recall reading from someone who heard both recordings that the STP one was better and that´s maybe why it was left out and forgotten...

I´m sure there are more songs that were considered or recorded for various records that we don´t know and yes, I'm sure that with all this unreleased songs, many of them would make a good record with probably some good singles, but MK looks forward, even what he leaves backwards is good enough, or sometimes better...
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Re: Unreleased MK tracks sorted by record???
« Reply #4 on: November 24, 2016, 11:53:44 AM »
I'll bet he has some great songs left over that he wrote for the first few DS albums, even pre-Straits like Real Girl.
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Re: Unreleased MK tracks sorted by record???
« Reply #5 on: November 24, 2016, 01:32:02 PM »
I'll bet he has some great songs left over that he wrote for the first few DS albums, even pre-Straits like Real Girl.

Or "Me And My Friends"

Curious that both songs were played during the Talking Heads tour (their first one) but didn´t made it on their first record...

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Re: Unreleased MK tracks sorted by record???
« Reply #6 on: November 24, 2016, 01:34:15 PM »
Chuck Ainlay has stated that a lot of Mark's best songs have never been released on any album!!
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Re: Unreleased MK tracks sorted by record???
« Reply #7 on: November 24, 2016, 01:38:44 PM »
Chuck Ainlay has stated that a lot of Mark's best songs have never been releases on any album!!

It would be nice that what Mk and Guy are doing is compilating and re-arranging some of that forgotten songs for a new album...
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Re: Unreleased MK tracks sorted by record???
« Reply #8 on: November 24, 2016, 04:56:20 PM »
Chuck Ainlay has stated that a lot of Mark's best songs have never been releases on any album!!

I tend to trust this fine man! I'm sure Mark have some gems laying around in the drawer, let's hope for the best.

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Re: Unreleased MK tracks sorted by record???
« Reply #9 on: November 24, 2016, 06:23:01 PM »
Chuck Ainlay has stated that a lot of Mark's best songs have never been releases on any album!!

I can believe that.  Some of his b-sides have been better than some of the album songs.  I'm thinking of things like Millionaire Blues, Kingdom Come, Gravy Train or My Claim to Fame to name but a few.
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Re: Unreleased MK tracks sorted by record???
« Reply #10 on: November 24, 2016, 07:02:43 PM »
Chuck Ainlay has stated that a lot of Mark's best songs have never been releases on any album!!

I can believe that.  Some of his b-sides have been better than some of the album songs.  I'm thinking of things like Millionaire Blues, Kingdom Come, Gravy Train or My Claim to Fame to name but a few.

Only makes me missing Chuck Ainlay more after posts like this :disbelief

Give me one reason it was necessary to get rid of Chuck? Only that Guy learned so much that he can replace Chuck? * Cough, cough *

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Re: Unreleased MK tracks sorted by record???
« Reply #11 on: November 24, 2016, 07:09:58 PM »
Chuck Ainlay has stated that a lot of Mark's best songs have never been releases on any album!!

I can believe that.  Some of his b-sides have been better than some of the album songs.  I'm thinking of things like Millionaire Blues, Kingdom Come, Gravy Train or My Claim to Fame to name but a few.

Only makes me missing Chuck Ainlay more after posts like this :disbelief

Give me one reason it was necessary to get rid of Chuck? Only that Guy learned so much that he can replace Chuck? * Cough, cough *

 :clap
But could Chuck repair his bicycle... :think
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Re: Unreleased MK tracks sorted by record???
« Reply #12 on: November 24, 2016, 09:38:19 PM »
Chuck Ainlay has stated that a lot of Mark's best songs have never been releases on any album!!

I can believe that.  Some of his b-sides have been better than some of the album songs.  I'm thinking of things like Millionaire Blues, Kingdom Come, Gravy Train or My Claim to Fame to name but a few.

Only makes me missing Chuck Ainlay more after posts like this :disbelief

Give me one reason it was necessary to get rid of Chuck? Only that Guy learned so much that he can replace Chuck? * Cough, cough *

 :clap
But could Chuck repair his bicycle... :think

LOL! To me it translates like as if instead of Mark somebody else would play solos on the album.

There was a long time before Chuck, but clearly the man is a genius at what he do, and you can hear his personality in his work.

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Re: Unreleased MK tracks sorted by record???
« Reply #13 on: December 13, 2016, 05:52:34 AM »
Great list and nice organization -- thanks jbaent!
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Re: Unreleased MK tracks sorted by record???
« Reply #14 on: December 13, 2016, 08:18:39 AM »
Great list and nice organization -- thanks jbaent!

It's not mine, it was made by someone in a Italian forum, I just copy and paste here :)
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