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Title: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Love Expresso on May 26, 2012, 11:42:38 AM
About that hmv website we know that the new album will obviously be called PRIVATEERING, which will officially be announced on Monday according to Guy, but hey, we are not official, apart from OFFICIAL FANS, so let's talk about the new release here and collect all kind of information that will come up in the next few weeks/months until it will be released (on Sept 3rd)  ;)

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pyroaction on May 26, 2012, 02:00:10 PM
It seems that it's a double album:
http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=220%3B1%3B-1%3B-1%3B-1&sku=676741 (http://hmv.com/hmvweb/displayProductDetails.do?ctx=220%3B1%3B-1%3B-1%3B-1&sku=676741)
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Post by: Fletch on May 26, 2012, 02:07:29 PM
Maybe we should have a little competition amongst ourselves about the cd artwork?

We already know the title song, what sort of art might it invoke? I'm imagining the band posing on a tallship deck, all drunk on Rum! Lol.
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 26, 2012, 03:46:43 PM
....to lay with pretty women
    to drink Madeira Wine...


(http://www.madeirawineguide.com/thumbs/seattle2009-thumb.jpg)

Cheers!

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on May 26, 2012, 09:09:08 PM
Its also in amazon

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Privateering-Mark-Knopfler/dp/B0086449YA/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1338059034&sr=1-1 (http://www.amazon.co.uk/Privateering-Mark-Knopfler/dp/B0086449YA/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1338059034&sr=1-1)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on May 26, 2012, 09:35:29 PM
(http://p.playserver1.com/ProductImages/0/0/6/0/4/2/2/3/32240600_500x500_1.jpg)

Disc 1

Redbud Tree
Haul Away
Don't Forget Your Hat
Privateering
Miss You Blues
Corned Beef City
Go, Love
Hot or What
Yon Two Crows
Seattle
Disc 2

Kingdom Of Gold
Got To Have Something
Radio City Serenade
I Used To Could
Gator Blood
Bluebird
Dream Of The Drowned Submariner
Blood And Water
Today Is Okay
After The Bean Stalk


From http://www.play.com/Music/CD/4-/32240600/0/Privateering/ListingDetails.html
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Post by: Best Brown Baggies on May 26, 2012, 10:01:56 PM
OMG OMG OMG OMG OMG.

Wohooooooooooo

20 NEW SONGS!!!!!!!!!

Happy BBB
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Post by: superval99 on May 26, 2012, 10:12:08 PM
Thank you, Jbaent!        I'm sooooo excited!   :D     
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on May 26, 2012, 10:19:42 PM
Just a curious thing. After I discovered this, many forumers are posting this in theie facebooks, which is great (because is great news) but nobody says anything here...  ::)

I
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on May 26, 2012, 10:24:40 PM
I'm puzzled by "I Used To Could"   ???     Doesn't make sense to me.   ::)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on May 26, 2012, 10:26:26 PM
I'm puzzled by "I Used To Could"   ???     Doesn't make sense to me.   ::)

I am about many of the titles, that doesnt makes sense to me.

Actually the cover... An abandoned van, and a dog, wheels, in a forest... privateering? Whats the meaning?
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Post by: holaknopfler on May 26, 2012, 10:31:50 PM
All I can say now is: YEAH
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Post by: ingridswing on May 26, 2012, 10:40:29 PM
wow great news! this is amazing, can't wait .... have to  ::)
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Post by: Dutchessy on May 26, 2012, 10:43:33 PM
AMAZING!!!!!!!!! ;D ;D ;D :D :D :D
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Post by: naif on May 26, 2012, 10:49:20 PM
THANK YOU!! Oh man my knees are shaking!
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Post by: GennT on May 26, 2012, 10:56:31 PM
Unbelievable!!! DOUBLE ALBUM!!! WOW!! ;D ;D ;D

Mark never fails to amaze us!
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Post by: Pyroaction on May 26, 2012, 11:00:52 PM
Very good, a double album.

Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on May 26, 2012, 11:05:12 PM
Just been out of the house for 3 hours, coming home and finding this:


DOUBLE ALBUM!!!!

After all those years! I am dreaming of a MK double album since I am a fan! It's soooooooooooooooo great! Sounds all very intellectual!! Very interesting
song titles, very untypical Knopfler style!!! Yon Two Crows?? Gator Blood?? Dream of the Drowned Submariner???  I think we will be in for a treat!

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on May 26, 2012, 11:10:28 PM
Me too, LE, me too, I
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on May 26, 2012, 11:28:14 PM
Thinking about the new cover motive:

The picture could be seen as the total opposite of the message in the Privateering lyrics:

"See how trim she lies"

It seems the song could as well be about Europe and about everything that is broken these days and that in earlier times it was much easier to get through with life and stuff. So the picture has a certain typical MK kind of (black) humour in it, don't you think?

Could be totally wrong though...

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: goldenheart96 on May 26, 2012, 11:46:23 PM
Holy cow! Am still totally excited because I saw Springsteen for the first time last night and he completely blew me away with a three and a half hour set, and now I read these news! A double album, OMFG!! This will be another sleepless night for me! Cover reminds me of "Into the Wild"  ;D
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Post by: JeroenvG on May 26, 2012, 11:59:05 PM
Yes! This is great news. Been out this night and then coming home having a text message from a fellow fan with this news. Can't wait to see the official announcement.

Again they are behind. It must be some marketing failure. But good news for us. YEAH!!!
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Post by: shangri la 1 on May 27, 2012, 12:02:10 AM
 :) Great news indeed!! Hope September 3 is in a hurry!!
Cover would match "Corned beef city" more imho.

Early in the morning
Cause, I
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Post by: Pottel on May 27, 2012, 12:05:54 AM
no old songs picked up again here though. or at least not songs we know about...
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 27, 2012, 12:07:34 AM
And that song about this New York Policeman seems not to be on it neither. (EDIT I think it was MY IRISH HEART...)

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Banjo99uk on May 27, 2012, 12:22:55 AM
My 2nd child is due at the same time as the new album, I'm not sure which I'm most excited about. (i can say that as my wife doesn't read the forum)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on May 27, 2012, 12:30:30 AM
And that song about this New York Policeman seems not to be on it neither.

LE

Radio City Serenade?


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Post by: Love Expresso on May 27, 2012, 12:32:03 AM
Yeah, you are right, I found end edited the title that was named at Guy's forum, My Irish Heart.. But MK maybe changed the title, who knows, it seems he works on it really until the last second...

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on May 27, 2012, 12:37:03 AM
My 2nd child is due at the same time as the new album, I'm not sure which I'm most excited about. (i can say that as my wife doesn't read the forum)

Just in case... YOU KNOW ITS YOUR 2ND CHILD  ;)

Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: border_reiver on May 27, 2012, 01:23:39 AM
HOLY MOLY!  :o

This should be epic!

edit:

*aaaaarrgh* longest.... summer.... ever......
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Post by: Slavi on May 27, 2012, 01:37:49 AM
Arrrrgghhhh! OMG!! OMG!!
Can't wait!!
Thank you for the GREAT news...the album cover is amazing...
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Post by: foma on May 27, 2012, 03:01:48 AM
My jaw is on the floor actually, thanks!

But the cover is just horrible, I think. Third soulless cover in a row from the 'great' Salvador Design (I'm sure Priveteering is their job too). It's all IMAO, of cource, but... what a default fonts, two clearly visible layers of photoshop and strange composition? Looks like bonus photo inside box or something like that. I just don't want to by this CD in to my collection and I'll preffer digital download instead, but I'm ready to spent $200 on rare The Ragpicker's Dream LP just because it's awesome cover (apart from the music). Or by 'A Momentary Lapse of Reason' at last.

Sorry friends for my attak, but design is the most weak link in Mark's current production process. Those covers (KtGC, GL and Privateering) just doesn't reach the level of the music underneath it.
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Post by: joanzimm on May 27, 2012, 03:59:08 AM
DOUBLE ALBUM!!!!!!!!!   Thank you Mark :-* :-* :-*. (Into The Wild was the first thing I thought of when I saw the cover).
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Post by: Dutchessy on May 27, 2012, 09:28:14 AM
Holy cow! Am still totally excited because I saw Springsteen for the first time last night and he completely blew me away with a three and a half hour set, and now I read these news! A double album, OMFG!! This will be another sleepless night for me! Cover reminds me of "Into the Wild"  ;D

Great!! I'm gonna see springsteen tonight in koln for the first time!!
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Post by: border_reiver on May 27, 2012, 09:49:38 AM
If Corned Beef City is the only rocker this time around I'm gonna lose it  ;D
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Post by: Tally on May 27, 2012, 09:50:19 AM
This is great news! I was sure the second CD was live tracks. Corned Beef is included too, I was sure that one was gonna left out. But with a double, anything is possible of course.


And Springsteen is great live, enjoy!
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Post by: Tally on May 27, 2012, 09:51:31 AM
If Corned Beef City is the only rocker this time around I'm gonna lose it  ;D

Indeed, if this album is in the tempo of Haul Away, getting through double discs may be challenging  ;D But we'll see, the length would seem to imply a great variety of styles and tempos. At least there's some blues in there.
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Post by: K-alberto on May 27, 2012, 09:52:23 AM
DOUBLE ALBUM??!!

This is REALLY REALLY the MOST unbelieavable, stunning, wonderful news I've heard since a long time!!!

And I also LOVE the cover, no slot machines this time, love the light, the color, the feeling it gives....

Really can't wait!!!!!!!!!!!!
THANK YOU MARK!!!!
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Post by: border_reiver on May 27, 2012, 10:04:26 AM
Corned Beef City, Privateering and Haul Away are all fantastic. But if there are 17 various versions of 'A Place Where We Used To Live" or "The Fizzy And The Still" - the 2CD is going to the place depicted on the album.  ;)


Indeed, if this album is in the tempo of Haul Away, getting through double discs may be challenging  ;D But we'll see, the length would seem to imply a great variety of styles and tempos. At least there's some blues in there.
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Post by: dustyvalentino on May 27, 2012, 10:12:50 AM
Amazing.  I don't really give a fuck about the cover,  but 20 songs? Oh yeah.
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Post by: Tally on May 27, 2012, 10:20:43 AM
First MK double album evvva, except for live stuff. Totally unexptected.
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 27, 2012, 10:21:42 AM
My jaw is on the floor actually, thanks!

But the cover is just horrible, I think. Third soulless cover in a row from the 'great' Salvador Design (I'm sure Priveteering is their job too). It's all IMAO, of cource, but... what a default fonts, two clearly visible layers of photoshop and strange composition? Looks like bonus photo inside box or something like that.

It is all a question of taste, of course. But as far as I know, Salvador Design was not involved this time - he was asked about some cover design for the new album via twitter a few months back and said he was not involved.

And I cannot say that I don't like it - the font style and design fits perfectly to the message of the picture.
And Kill To Get Crimson had one of the nicest covers in a long time on any MK album in my opinion. The colour, the font and the motive were just perfectly well chosen for the style of the album in my opinion.
 ;)

LE
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Post by: border_reiver on May 27, 2012, 10:22:36 AM
Looks like MK finally is doing something he wants to do and not in line with the record company's demands.

Tell me any other (proper) musician that puts a double-CD with all new material on the market these days???
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 27, 2012, 11:16:58 AM
About the cover:

I had a look at Salvador Lavados twitter and on May 17th he wrote: "Looks like I may be working with Mark Knopfler again".

?

LE
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Post by: Jackal on May 27, 2012, 11:21:37 AM
Yeah, now we're talking! High time Mark would break out of the mould and do something different. I just hope it will not be a regular Mark album x 2, but that he exploits the 2CD format and makes some kind of concept out of it. All in all I'm excited. This time I'll try to stop myself from listening to snippets and just buy the album in its "virgin state".
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 27, 2012, 11:24:34 AM
+1

Concept album would be perfect! The album that came the closest to a concept album in my opinion was The Ragpicker's Dream. Would be nice if he could do something like that again.

Jackal, maybe going to a show this time if the album suits you?  ;)

LE
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Post by: superval99 on May 27, 2012, 11:58:53 AM
I awoke this morning with the feeling that something fantastic had happened last evening.  Then I remembered why!    No, it wasn't The Eurovision Song Contest!  ::)

Yes a new MK DOUBLE ALBUM!!   8)   :D

Oh what a beautiful morning, oh what a beautiful day
I've got a beautiful feeling
Something wonderful's coming my way!       (on 3rd September)

BTW  I really like the cover art.  
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Post by: Jackal on May 27, 2012, 12:02:55 PM
+1

Concept album would be perfect! The album that came the closest to a concept album in my opinion was The Ragpicker's Dream. Would be nice if he could do something like that again.

Jackal, maybe going to a show this time if the album suits you?  ;)

LE

LE,

Yeah, this time I'm considering going, even if the album would be disappointing. Might be the last chance to see him :)
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 27, 2012, 12:11:28 PM
London is on my radar for 2013 again. After Hannover 2011 was sooo great I will probably choose that venue again, Hamburg is a must for me, and Oberhausen so easy to reach... makes 4 shows minimum - if I chose to go to more than one show in London it will be an expensive autumn for sure...
And the idea of probably seeing him the last time has come to my mind, too. (In fact, the double album itself could be some kind of "cleaning up my song pocketbook")

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Banjo99uk on May 27, 2012, 12:43:43 PM
I dont think he'll ever stop as long as he physically can. He may just wind it down rather than going across the planet.
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Post by: Neville Sherman on May 27, 2012, 01:00:49 PM
I started a thread a few months ago hinting that the new album was going to be something else given the time, people involved and care taken over it. Looks like we're not going to be disappointed. With so many tracks to salivate over, surely the set list for whatever tours are in the pipeline are going to get a refresh. Wonder if there will be a single release ready to tease us? Wonder if the 'killer song' left off GL has made the cut? Wonder if the box set will have a live CD of Mark's contribution to the Dylan tour. I wonder, wonder, wonder! God, three months to go - that long! Ouch!
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Post by: Dutchessy on May 27, 2012, 01:11:55 PM
Killer song is not on it according to guy a while back
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Post by: dreamsound on May 27, 2012, 01:33:41 PM
Breathtaking heart-stopping earth-shaking news!!! Thank you!!!
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Post by: Justme on May 27, 2012, 01:54:56 PM
I dont think he'll ever stop as long as he physically can. He may just wind it down rather than going across the planet.

I bet you're right!

GREAT news anyway! Count me in for at least two London shows!!!  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: Pottel on May 27, 2012, 02:00:32 PM
Yeah, now we're talking! High time Mark would break out of the mould and do something different. I just hope it will not be a regular Mark album x 2, but that he exploits the 2CD format and makes some kind of concept out of it. All in all I'm excited. This time I'll try to stop myself from listening to snippets and just buy the album in its "virgin state".
you saying this will be his "the Wall"?  ::)
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Post by: holaknopfler on May 27, 2012, 03:41:07 PM
After The Fish and The Bird
and the Early Bird
now the BlueBird !!

Mark must have something with birds!
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 27, 2012, 04:43:40 PM
Bluebird is a song from Paul McCartneys Band On The Run album which was recorded on one of those famous boards at British Grove... Just thinking...

But it would be a real surprise if MK would put a cover version on one of his own records, wouldn't it. Might be a good question for Guy! What do you think?  8)

LE
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Post by: Jarle on May 27, 2012, 04:53:18 PM
Bluebird is a song from Paul McCartneys Band On The Run album which was recorded on one of those famous boards at British Grove... Just thinking...

But it would be a real surprise if MK would put a cover version on one of his own records, wouldn't it. Might be a good question for Guy! What do you think?  8)

LE

Good thought, but I doubt it. Guy said this in November, when answering to a question about recording Forever Young in the studio:

Mark doesn't do cover versions on his records.

It might of course have changed :)

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Post by: Love Expresso on May 27, 2012, 04:55:42 PM
Did he? Uups, will bring me another DOH then probably, because the question is already sent!!!  :lol :lol :lol

I think he will have loads of posts about this news already but will not be able to post them before Monday, when the "official" information has been put out.

LE
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Post by: Fieneke2 on May 27, 2012, 05:48:47 PM
Quote Fletch: We already know the title song, what sort of art might it invoke? I'm imagining the band posing on a tallship deck, all drunk on Rum! Lol.

Quote LE: ....to lay with pretty women
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: goldenheart96 on May 27, 2012, 06:18:21 PM
A concept album would be great, but somehow I'm not too sure about that. I do, however, hope there will be a broader variation of song themes this time - not only songs about gambling, simple people, maritime stuff and fairgrounds.

Not too excited about the cover art, either. How about asking Storm Thorgerson next time??  ;D
My fav MK album cover is probably the plane on STP - clear and simple, followed by RPD. Slot machine was ugly, casino was just a variation of that, and I didn't really like the scooter either.

What do you think, will the tourdates be out in October? Geez, I need to start saving. Put soo much money in my new flat  :(
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Post by: markknopflerfan1985 on May 27, 2012, 06:19:54 PM
That
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Post by: Pottel on May 27, 2012, 06:22:46 PM
storm thorgerson,...lol yeah, he could maybe do something new for mk, like a beam of light being shot through a crystal piramid, and then, imagine, it would beam out from the other side and shine with all the colours from the rainbow!
or mark could put a cow on the cover, or an ear underwater...man, the possibilities....mind boggling..
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Post by: markknopflerfan1985 on May 27, 2012, 06:29:40 PM
LOL Pottel!  :D :D Why is everybody so concerned in CD cover? Well Storm wouldn
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 27, 2012, 06:34:33 PM
That
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Post by: Banjo99uk on May 27, 2012, 06:35:06 PM
Bluebird could be about Donald Campbells boat that he died in trying to beat the world speed record.
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 27, 2012, 06:37:05 PM
Cool. Didn't know that. Typcial MK theme. Great hint, thank you!

 :)

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: koobaa on May 27, 2012, 06:38:52 PM
After The Fish and The Bird
and the Early Bird
now the BlueBird !!

Mark must have something with birds!

Bluebird is also the name of the known restaurant/cafe at King's Road in Chelsea. Mark has been a frequent guest over there as it was just around the corner when he lived there. He also likes to arrange this place for the interviews. Of course, this may be a dead track, but knowing that he can be inspired by a bus timetable - who knows.

http://www.bluebird-restaurant.co.uk/

Edit: Banjo, I like your idea much better, though ;)
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Post by: superval99 on May 27, 2012, 06:47:46 PM
Bluebird is a song from Paul McCartneys Band On The Run album which was recorded on one of those famous boards at British Grove... Just thinking...

But it would be a real surprise if MK would put a cover version on one of his own records, wouldn't it. Might be a good question for Guy! What do you think?  8)

LE

Paul McCartney also wrote a song called "What It Is" from the "Run Devil Run" album.    ;)
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Post by: markknopflerfan1985 on May 27, 2012, 06:48:45 PM
Thank you so much for the explanation Love Expresso ;)
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Post by: Jarle on May 27, 2012, 08:30:30 PM
Interesting discussions...  :) By the way, the word "yon" is used both in the Privateering lyrics and in the title Yon Two Crows. I did a quick search, but didn't find any good explanation. Anyone know what it means?
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Post by: superval99 on May 27, 2012, 08:39:13 PM
Hi Jarle -  It means "over there" as in "Over there's my Privateer, see how trim she lies" or "Over there two crows".   Can also mean yonder, or "That one over there"
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Post by: Jarle on May 27, 2012, 08:54:11 PM
Hi Jarle -  It means "over there" as in "Over there's my Privateer, see how trim she lies" or "Over there two crows".   Can also mean yonder, or "That one over there"

A good explanation. Thanks! :)
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 27, 2012, 09:02:52 PM
Funny, I googled the same word: In German it is the meaning of the old word "jene", (that one over there) which seems to indicate another old historical plot for that song, some medieval stuff as in Madame Geneva or Done With Bonny or.... what's it called.... ah... Privateering!!

LE
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Post by: dmg on May 27, 2012, 09:44:15 PM
Great news!  Didn't expect a double for a minute;  not like him at all.  Cover design is unfortunately pants as usual but the main thing is the music.

Bluebird was a motif used as part of the livery of the buses that ran in and around the Glasgow area years ago.  Maybe an idea, after all we had a song about Albion lorries from Glasgow...
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Post by: twm on May 28, 2012, 12:38:08 AM
There's an old English ballad called "Three Ravens" but it is the Scottish version, "Twa Corbies", that is better known these days, I think. "Twa Corbies" means "Two Crows".  I know there are various versions, so there's no need to come back to me about these. Meanwhile, I offer these:

The Scottish song has a number of themes: the transcience of life; death and rebirth; the persistence of nature; and the fickleness of the human heart. There is even an element of "The King is dead. Long live the King!" Actually it is a knight who has died, not a king.  Two crows are discussing where they will eat tonight. One mentions this dead knight. His body had been protected by his hawk, his dog and his mistress but the hawk and the dog have gone off to seek other prey and his mistress has taken another lover. It ends with a comment that, when man is reduced to bones, the wind will still be blowing and will do so forever.

The English version is a bit more uplifting. A similar scenario but the three ravens do not get to feed on the knight's dead body. His hawks and hounds do protect his body and do stay loyal. As does his mistress (in the form of a pregnant deer) who comes to him, kisses his wounds, carries him away and buries him. Alas, the mistress herself then dies.

It will be interesting if MK has produced another variation on this basic storyline.
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Post by: twm on May 28, 2012, 12:51:36 AM
"Yon" can indeed mean "over there". It is a shorter form of "yonder", as in "That tree yonder". The essential elements are that the object should be at a distance from you but can still be seen. In that sense, "yon", when used as an adjective (as I suspect it is in this song title) can simply mean "that" or "those". Here, since there are two crows, the title might mean just, "Those two crows"

Those for whom English is not a first language might like to know that it is not a word in common usage nowadays. It has a poetical feel to it, though it could be still in some local dialects. Since it is slightly archaic or old-fashioned, it is sometimes used to indicate the events being described took place in the past.

Again, it will be interesting to see how MK has used it.

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Post by: Fletch on May 28, 2012, 12:55:51 AM
I can imagine hanging out with and around Bob Dylan was probably a great inspiration to Mark, in terms of prolific songwriting.

I can't recall exactly, but did they have all of these songs in the can before the tour? How many sessions afterwards?
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Post by: twm on May 28, 2012, 12:56:36 AM
I have previously commented on the theme of the song "Privateering" and suggested that it might be heard in the context of what has been happening in the financial and economic world in recent times.

If MK has indeed drawn on the ideas underlying the Scottish song "Twa Corbies", I'm wondering if he also might be drawing a similar parallel.

Just a thought and only time will tell.
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Post by: twm on May 28, 2012, 01:22:53 AM
I do not know the extent to which hanging out with Dylan "inspired" Mark. My impression was that many of MK's songs were written before their tour together but I would be happy to be corrected on this.

Dylan also has a new album out this year. The title isn't known yet but it has 10 tracks and lasts 68 minutes. A couple of the tracks are quite long; one is over 14 minutes long (a song about the Titanic) and another is 9 minutes long (said to be like an old Scottish ballad in theme). If the latter rumour is true and if "Yon Two Crows" is linked to the Scottish folksong "Twa Corbies" in any way, then maybe there is something in Fletch's speculation.
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Post by: Neville Sherman on May 28, 2012, 05:04:57 AM
You don't think 'After the Bean Stalk' is a song about Jack do you who finds his true love after he buys his cow back with the gold coins he stole from the giant? Could make Romeo and Juliet sound tame!
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Post by: Best Brown Baggies on May 28, 2012, 07:40:28 AM
You don't think 'After the Bean Stalk' is a song about Jack do you who finds his true love after he buys his cow back with the gold coins he stole from the giant? Could make Romeo and Juliet sound tame!

I like it!!! LOL

Cheers. BBB
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Post by: jbaent on May 28, 2012, 10:36:15 AM
There is only one thing that looks true...

These are going to be the longest months ever...

About Salvador Design, I guess he might had been aproached for the box set as the cover is already made. Should we guess that we might get a little mini van without wheels and a litlle doggy?

 ;D

The choice of fonts for the cover is just awful, doesnt fit that black font with the cover.
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Post by: ds1984 on May 28, 2012, 10:49:22 AM
Patently waiting fot september and without great enthousiasm.

Since I heard some of the new songs live I fear let say a KTGC vol. 2&3 album like.

Privateering and Haul Away sounded a folky way that I'm not into, Corned Beef City was nice but more of a filler than a true gem.

And now this cover, so depressing.

Bad vibes, I pray that the remaining 17 other tracks will change my state of mind...
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Post by: jbaent on May 28, 2012, 10:54:07 AM
I like it, and I know I
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Post by: superval99 on May 28, 2012, 10:56:18 AM
I am the opposite of you, ds1984.  I really love "Privateering" and "Haul Away", but not very keen on "Corned Beef City".   I am looking forward with great excitement to this new album, but unlike you, I am a folk fan and I loved KTGC - still listen to it in fact!      I find the cover very interesting - there is more to it than meets the eye, I think.   :)
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Post by: jbaent on May 28, 2012, 11:00:47 AM
I am the opposite of you, ds1984.  I really love "Privateering" and "Haul Away", but not very keen on "Corned Beef City".   I am looking forward with great excitement to this new album, but unlike you, I am a folk fan and I loved KTGC - still listen to it in fact!      I find the cover very interesting - there is more to it than meets the eye, I think.   :)

I agree 100%, actually I was quite sure that Corned beef city was a clear candidate to be aout from the record when I thought It was a one cd record. Privateering and Haul away, I think they are both examples of the style of the new record.

I understood the cover comment and edited my previous post  ;D
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Post by: JeroenvG on May 28, 2012, 11:05:53 AM
There it is official: http://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/index.php/page/News
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 28, 2012, 11:11:17 AM
TK still in bed obviously


About the strange song title "I Used To Could", where Superval also was thinking about, I found this:

http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/000227.html (http://itre.cis.upenn.edu/~myl/languagelog/archives/000227.html)

Seems to be a Texas slang thing... Might be helpful!

LE
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Post by: Silvertown on May 28, 2012, 11:16:16 AM
20 songs from our Man! Ah, so great!

Silvertown
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Post by: Jackal on May 28, 2012, 11:18:35 AM
Just bad grammar, I guess: "I used to be able to"?
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Post by: Fletch on May 28, 2012, 11:26:10 AM
I'm listening to Privateering from the Lille concert now. I like it a lot, a sort of Mans Too Strong music vibe, good lyrics and a whimsical theme.

Get Lucky was a mixed bag for me (as all his solo works is to me really) - I can easily skip half the tracks and whole heatedly listen to others. So I guess with 20 songs, I might get a whole 10 songs I'll like! ;D
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Post by: jbaent on May 28, 2012, 11:28:45 AM
TK still in bed obviously


TK doest works at MK management or the record company, is a fan that has his own work and at the same time runs the official MKNEWS site, so I guess that as soon as his work allows him to do it, he will update his site.
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 28, 2012, 11:32:29 AM
Oh yeah.

It's Whit Monday today and that's a bank holiday in Germany of course, I learned that it isn't in England. So I am SO sorry and of course Mr. Kilburn will
update his "Fan" site as soon as he will get to it...

LE
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Post by: JeroenvG on May 28, 2012, 11:41:36 AM
TK still in bed obviously


TK doest works at MK management or the record company, is a fan that has his own work and at the same time runs the official MKNEWS site, so I guess that as soon as his work allows him to do it, he will update his site.

Too bad that even the "Official" site http://www.markknopfler.com/ isn't up to date! Good thing we have AMIT!
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Post by: Jackal on May 28, 2012, 11:44:33 AM
Question: A double album, that's pretty amazing. It will be well worth the wait! Would you say the album is a "regular album but twice as long", or is it more of a "concept album"?

Guy: It's a double album
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Post by: jbaent on May 28, 2012, 11:45:08 AM
TK still in bed obviously


TK doest works at MK management or the record company, is a fan that has his own work and at the same time runs the official MKNEWS site, so I guess that as soon as his work allows him to do it, he will update his site.

Too bad that even the "Official" site http://www.markknopfler.com/ isn't up to date! Good thing we have AMIT!

The news in the official site comes from MKNEWS as well.
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 28, 2012, 11:49:46 AM
My first impulse was "typcial Guy answer - so short" , but he is right - a double album has not automatically to be a concept album - it is just an album that provides music from the same artistic background/idea/intention - and when 79 minutes on a CD offer not enough space - well, then you have to put in onto 2 CDS. So it is one ALBUM in the artistic meaning of the word, but physically it is two CDs. Hope this makes sense...

LE
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Post by: Jackal on May 28, 2012, 11:55:38 AM
I'd rather have a 38 minute album with killer songs, than a 150 minute 2 CD album with a hodge podge of good and bad. Sorry, but even Mark can't fill two CDs with great songs. Unless he's going in a certain direction with the album, it's very difficult to sustain the attention. We'll see.
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Post by: jbaent on May 28, 2012, 11:56:56 AM
Actually I am waiting for the news in MKNEWS more for the special edition of the record... Nobody had provide with information yet...
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Post by: JeroenvG on May 28, 2012, 11:58:50 AM
Actually I am waiting for the news in MKNEWS more for the special edition of the record... Nobody had provide with information yet...
We know there will be a boxset, hope to see that news on the Official site so that we know what's in side that box
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Post by: Best Brown Baggies on May 28, 2012, 11:59:16 AM
Actually I am waiting for the news in MKNEWS more for the special edition of the record... Nobody had provide with information yet...

Yup, me too ;D

Cheers. BBB
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Post by: naif on May 28, 2012, 12:10:20 PM
Actually I am waiting for the news in MKNEWS more for the special edition of the record... Nobody had provide with information yet...

And the collaboration list of the songs. Kim wilson, Botti, Ruth or maybe more.
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Post by: Pottel on May 28, 2012, 12:15:26 PM
I'd rather have a 38 minute album with killer songs, than a 150 minute 2 CD album with a hodge podge of good and bad. Sorry, but even Mark can't fill two CDs with great songs. Unless he's going in a certain direction with the album, it's very difficult to sustain the attention. We'll see.
pretty convinced mark will wrong you there amigo!  :lol
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Post by: Jackal on May 28, 2012, 12:21:10 PM
We'll see, vato! I struggle with Get Lucky. And that's one CD. But I'm absolutely happy to be positively surprised :)
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Post by: jbaent on May 28, 2012, 12:23:46 PM
I'd rather have a 38 minute album with killer songs, than a 150 minute 2 CD album with a hodge podge of good and bad. Sorry, but even Mark can't fill two CDs with great songs. Unless he's going in a certain direction with the album, it's very difficult to sustain the attention. We'll see.
pretty convinced mark will wrong you there amigo!  :lol

I DO agree!
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 28, 2012, 12:26:23 PM
10 tracks on every album will mean not more than 50 to 55, 60 minutes (at the most)  playtime on each CD - besides there are some unusal long tracks on it (which means more than 7 minutes for me)... I am sure Mark will NOT fill both CDs completely with 70 to 75 minutes. Last time he did that was Golden Heart...

LE
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Post by: jbaent on May 28, 2012, 12:31:00 PM
10 tracks on every album will mean not more than 50 to 55, 60 minutes (at the most)  playtime on each CD - besides there are some unusal long tracks on it (which means more than 7 minutes for me)... I am sure Mark will NOT fill both CDs completely with 70 to 75 minutes. Last time he did that was Golden Heart...

LE

Yeah, I
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Post by: goldenheart96 on May 28, 2012, 12:47:31 PM
I can imagine hanging out with and around Bob Dylan was probably a great inspiration to Mark, in terms of prolific songwriting.

I can't recall exactly, but did they have all of these songs in the can before the tour? How many sessions afterwards?

How can he be inspired by "hanging out with Dylan" when he did not? IIRC, they didn't even have lunch together, or a post-concert drink! Exchanging a few licks and enhancing some of Dylan's strange song arrangements does hardly count as a inspiration, IMO.
People, please stop obsessing over an MK/BD collab. It's over, done with, finished. Time to move on.
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Post by: dmg on May 28, 2012, 12:50:04 PM
10 tracks on every album will mean not more than 50 to 55, 60 minutes (at the most)  playtime on each CD - besides there are some unusal long tracks on it (which means more than 7 minutes for me)... I am sure Mark will NOT fill both CDs completely with 70 to 75 minutes. Last time he did that was Golden Heart...

LE

So we can expect lots of nice long flute/whistle solo's on it then! ;)
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Post by: Jackal on May 28, 2012, 12:52:34 PM
Time to move on.

We moved on a couple of pages ago.
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Post by: Pottel on May 28, 2012, 01:58:14 PM
I can imagine hanging out with and around Bob Dylan was probably a great inspiration to Mark, in terms of prolific songwriting.

I can't recall exactly, but did they have all of these songs in the can before the tour? How many sessions afterwards?

How can he be inspired by "hanging out with Dylan" when he did not? IIRC, they didn't even have lunch together, or a post-concert drink! Exchanging a few licks and enhancing some of Dylan's strange song arrangements does hardly count as a inspiration, IMO.
People, please stop obsessing over an MK/BD collab. It's over, done with, finished. Time to move on.
wrong, read guy's replies and posts,it is clear bob totally ignored the band, but bob and mark spend more then an hour a ay, alone. And that is what guy (can) tells us
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Post by: Pottel on May 28, 2012, 01:58:47 PM
Or better, what he knows about even.
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Post by: Jackal on May 28, 2012, 02:01:31 PM
I guess we returned.
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 28, 2012, 02:20:07 PM
And there will be a BD/MK autumn US tour this year, so even if it has been over, it will all come back to us again! Not so sure if I am happy about that either, with the view of so much new MK material I would love to buy European show tickets as fas as possible and not want to go through another US tour with only 70 minutes shows or so. I know it has not  been confirmed but it seems pretty clear to me... Guy was talking about "...tour(s)".

LE
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Post by: border_reiver on May 28, 2012, 02:23:02 PM
TK still in bed obviously


TK doest works at MK management or the record company, is a fan that has his own work and at the same time runs the official MKNEWS site, so I guess that as soon as his work allows him to do it, he will update his site.

Too bad that even the "Official" site http://www.markknopfler.com/ isn't up to date! Good thing we have AMIT!


Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the MK.com team located in Toronto, Canada? I suppose they are sleeping at the moment.

And while I'm at it, I saw one of the members over there slinging some statistic dirt at AMIT recently  :(

Which apparently backfired enormously seeing that the MK.com's 51000 users (3400 if counting 1 post or more) managed some 34000 posts since the beginning yet AMIT's 900 members almost made it to 45000 despite being one year younger  ;D

Sorry for the off-topic!
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Post by: jbaent on May 28, 2012, 02:26:18 PM
Well, Bod Dylan thing its not over, an US tour this autumm is waiting to be anounced...

And with the new record just released, a chance to listen new tracks live, well, to recording for us, european fans  ;D

Guy said something about vynils, so, can we guess the box will have vynils again?
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Post by: border_reiver on May 28, 2012, 02:29:12 PM
Well, Bod Dylan thing its not over, an US tour this autumm is waiting to be anounced...

And with the new record just released, a chance to listen new tracks live, well, to recording for us, european fans  ;D

Guy said something about vynils, so, can we guess the box will have vynils again?

If they follow the scheme with adding some extra merchandise that follows the theme of the album, well then I'm not so sure I'd like what's inside the box set  ;D
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 28, 2012, 02:31:27 PM
An old tyre, what else...

And some pirate's gold ducats, well replicas of them...

LE
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Post by: border_reiver on May 28, 2012, 02:36:46 PM
An old tyre, what else...

And some pirate's gold ducats, well replicas of them...

LE

As long as we're not fencing any property...
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Post by: jbaent on May 28, 2012, 02:50:53 PM
No, a mini van with two wheels, and some used wheels, and a miniature of a dog...
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Post by: holaknopfler on May 28, 2012, 04:30:39 PM
A pirate hat perhaps?
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Post by: vgonis on May 28, 2012, 05:11:13 PM
Nice news! Should start saving money for the new CDs and vinyl. If one CD fits on two vinyls, then we are talking about 4 vinyls? Or at least 3? That would be quite costly... 
I thought privateering meant something else, apart from the looting of the front wheel ;)
 
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Post by: superval99 on May 28, 2012, 05:31:16 PM
TK still in bed obviously


TK doest works at MK management or the record company, is a fan that has his own work and at the same time runs the official MKNEWS site, so I guess that as soon as his work allows him to do it, he will update his site.

Too bad that even the "Official" site http://www.markknopfler.com/ isn't up to date! Good thing we have AMIT!


Correct me if I'm wrong but isn't the MK.com team located in Toronto, Canada? I suppose they are sleeping at the moment.

And while I'm at it, I saw one of the members over there slinging some statistic dirt at AMIT recently  :(

Which apparently backfired enormously seeing that the MK.com's 51000 users (3400 if counting 1 post or more) managed some 34000 posts since the beginning yet AMIT's 900 members almost made it to 45000 despite being one year younger  ;D

Sorry for the off-topic!

border_reiver,    I really don't think they were slinging statistics dirt at AMIT, it was just a harmless, statistical bit of fun imo and I replied with the statistics from AMIT, which you have just quoted, in fact.   The other thing, which I mentioned in my post was that a very large number of members on MK.com are there for the chance to get tickets and that includes many BD fans who joined prior and during the MK/BD tour - indeed I read the ER forum at that time and they were urging eachother to join MK.com for the chance of a good seat!  The ticket aspect alone would swell the number of members on a forum immensely and these are usually members who have never ever posted!  ;)

Now back to the NEW ALBUM!  
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Post by: jbaent on May 28, 2012, 05:57:44 PM
Looking for information in Universal Music site about Privateering I came across this discography sections, and looks this record listed as part of Mark Knopfler Discography...

http://umusic.co.uk/artists/mark-knopfler/discography/the-twelfth-night
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Post by: Pottel on May 28, 2012, 06:12:20 PM
interesting, thought that was a bootleg...
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Post by: goldenheart96 on May 28, 2012, 06:56:18 PM
Well, Bod Dylan thing its not over, an US tour this autumm is waiting to be anounced...


Really? Is this official now? Wow, great.  ::)
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Post by: jbaent on May 28, 2012, 07:51:56 PM
Its not official until its anounced but... Its known that it will happens.
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Post by: Best Brown Baggies on May 28, 2012, 08:37:23 PM
It's now OFFICIAL on Mark Knopfler.com & MK News.

Cheers. BBB
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Post by: goldenheart96 on May 28, 2012, 09:49:30 PM
It's now OFFICIAL on Mark Knopfler.com & MK News.

Cheers. BBB

As always, the official site is behind, behind, behind with the rent, erm, news.  ;D
Wonder if the album will leak again.
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 28, 2012, 09:54:19 PM
You should never abandon hope!  ;D ;D

LE
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Post by: twm on May 29, 2012, 10:08:29 AM
The cover art suggests (to me, anyway) that it is a "state of the world" sort-of album. The wheels are off, the engine's stopped running and we're back to a rougher, more basic way of life - or, at least, in danger of same.
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Post by: Best Brown Baggies on May 29, 2012, 10:15:41 AM
The cover art suggests (to me, anyway) that it is a "state of the world" sort-of album. The wheels are off, the engine's stopped running and we're back to a rougher, more basic way of life - or, at least, in danger of same.

I tend to agree. I got the same feeling too.
Certainly a very current topic.
I'm sure once we know the lyrics, we will all
dissect every word, sentence, theme & story,
& all will be revealed.
Mark does always seem to capture the mood of
the world in his songwriting. I'm sure he won't dissapoint
this time.
Btw. Anyone know the track lengths yet?

Cheers. BBB
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Post by: twm on May 29, 2012, 10:46:40 AM
After the Beanstalk:

Jack and the Beanstalk has what I regard as unusual elements - well, unusual for what is now a children's tale. Times are tough, but Jack accepts "magic" beans in exchange for the cow, without any idea what they truly are. Mother doesn't know either and throws them away. They grow hugely and at the top of the giant beanstalk is an ogre. Where did he appear from? And he has a fortune in gold. Where did that come from?  Jack, having shown courage and climbed the beanstalk, then steals gold from the ogre.  And more than once, I seem to recall.  Eventually, the ogre catches on and follows Jack down the beanstalk. Just in time, Jack chops the beanstalk and it comes crashing down, killing the ogre, and he and his mum live richly off their ill-gotten gains.

I could argue that this story (easy gains not truly earned) could be seen as a parallel with events in the world economy. And that resulted in an almighty crash, too.

Some will recognise that I'm developing a theme here (see what I've written before about "Privateering", "Yon Two Crows" and the cover image) . Maybe "After The Beanstalk" is about the world after the economic crash of 2007/2008.

Even I, not even an MK fan really, will be interested to see how close my speculation turns out to be.
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Post by: jbaent on May 29, 2012, 10:49:55 AM
We should stay tuned to the online shops (hmv, play, amazon) for information about the box, as the official sources doesn't provide anything yet...
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Post by: ds1984 on May 29, 2012, 11:05:46 AM
I would link this cover with the on for TRD : poverty. But one shows some happiness, is even hopeful, the other one has a depressing feel.
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Post by: dmg on May 29, 2012, 11:34:37 AM
One interesting point - from the aspect of the double album point of view - is that with all these songs to choose from surely we must hear more new ones on the tour.

This has been a point of criticism over the last few tours from most of us and would surely indicate a dramatic change in the set from 2010, 2008...

Talking about static set lists, what's the reckoning that the set for the next Dylan thing will be the same as the last one? ::)
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Post by: Love Expresso on May 29, 2012, 11:39:40 AM
dmg, as I am not able to attend the upcoming (?) US shows, it would be ok with me when they played exactly the same as last year. I know that' s quite
harsh but hey, that is my darker side...


I did a little research: Guy posted the GET LUCKY track lengths on HIS website around June 30th 2009. There were some people asking about it (including me), and as the time schedule this year is pretty much the same, I am sure we will have the track lengths within the next four weeks or so.

LE
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Post by: twm on May 29, 2012, 12:35:27 PM
If the new album's out, then he'll play some of the new songs - surely.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: twm on May 29, 2012, 12:52:27 PM
And TK and MK NEWS are linked with MK's management and record company. This has advantages and disadvantages. The major disadvantage in terms of the likes of a new album is that the record company employs marketing and PR staff and they will have developed a plan for "launching" the new album. And TK and MK NEWS will have to comply with these arrangements

This plan will, from the point of view of the marketing and PR people, involve withholding information until it gets revealed at a pre-set time.  They fear premature leaks, as these will be seen as undermining "the plan".  This gives them the chance to offer "exclusives" to journalists, making the journos feel "special" and therefore more predisposed to "like" the new album. It also allows them, through the back-up information provided to the jounalists, to influence what's written. This is "PR spin" and, as it happens, also keeps marketing and PR staff in a job, so that's an additional incentive to keep things tight.

These machinations are not aimed at fans like you (because you're likely to buy the new album, come what may) but at the wider public, who do not follow "MK-things" as closely as you do.

This is understandable and, I might suggest, means that MK is subjec to (and I would argue central to) these big corporation machinations. It is the classic dichotomy bewtween commerce and art.  Whatever MK writes in his lyrics (and I've further suggested that he may be commenting on the "CRASH" and its effects), he is part of the big mess himself - but probably better insulated from its effects than most of us.

P.S. The same applies to Dylan, of course
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on May 29, 2012, 02:17:52 PM
And TK and MK NEWS are linked with MK's management and record company. This has advantages and disadvantages. The major disadvantage in terms of the likes of a new album is that the record company employs marketing and PR staff and they will have developed a plan for "launching" the new album. And TK and MK NEWS will have to comply with these arrangements

You are ABSOLUTLY right. I talked a lot in the past (long long ago) with TK about this, and he always told me that he wish to share that information as soon as he can, and that means, "as soon as I
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pottel on May 29, 2012, 03:31:59 PM
i find it strange amazon.de is not yet offering the album for presale, whereas hte UK site does...why oh why!!!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jabbathehut on May 29, 2012, 03:37:04 PM
Based on previous experience, when is the European tour likley to be announced.?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pottel on May 29, 2012, 03:38:59 PM
oct. november? i seem to remember buying tickets then...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ds1984 on May 29, 2012, 03:39:11 PM
"The deluxe box will have a cd" that is, obviously, nonsense.

On the contrary, the deluxe should have only one CD but include an extra track* not on the regurlar. That way you will have to purchase both : regurlar and Deluxe.

*: and of course, both Best Buy and itune will also get their exclusive extra track.

How to make good business from fans  :P
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ds1984 on May 29, 2012, 03:43:28 PM
oct. november? i seem to remember buying tickets then...

In 2007 the first batch of tix were sold late September. I remember well it was just at the time of my only week of the year I was away from home and was supposed to have no internet connection.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: twm on May 29, 2012, 03:47:44 PM
I just "sent" a posting that didn't get through - not for the first time, I'm afraid.

The short version is that I didn't mean to seem to denigrate TK or MK NEWS. They provide a valuable service and, in these days when all manner of innaccurate nonsense gets circulated on-line, it is very useful to read something that you know is right, even if it's a day or two later than some others.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: DIFFICULTTOBELIEVE on May 30, 2012, 09:41:38 AM
I would link this cover with the on for TRD : poverty. But one shows some happiness, is even hopeful, the other one has a depressing feel.

Do you think the sun is rising or setting? ??? ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on May 30, 2012, 10:06:32 AM
I would link this cover with the on for TRD : poverty. But one shows some happiness, is even hopeful, the other one has a depressing feel.

Do you think the sun is rising or setting? ??? ;)

I think there's too much pessimism around with some people at the moment!   There was even a post that a double CD was not good - too many fillers, or something!  It would also have been bad news if it had been a single CD!   For some people on this forum, their cup is always half-empty and they have the inability to look forward optimistically!   I have the feeling this is going to be a wonderful album!     :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on May 30, 2012, 10:13:52 AM
A double cd is definitely GREAT news.
how can an MK album possibly be anything other than superb.
My cup of optimism over floweth. ;D

Cheers. BBB
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on May 30, 2012, 10:15:33 AM
Cheers BBB!   ;D     Maybe we will meet again next year!   :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: peterromer on May 30, 2012, 10:20:28 AM
A double cd is definitely GREAT news.
how can an MK album possibly be anything other than superb.
My cup of optimism over floweth. ;D

Cheers. BBB

Same here... brilliant NEWS !!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on May 30, 2012, 10:27:25 AM
Val und bbb, so there are two forumers already then that I can meet at the RAH next year!!  :D

I find it very courageous from Mark to put out a double album in these times - and also from his label, too! So it HAS to be a great one, I think even a superstar like MK would have been in trouble to push through this format of release - you know a double album automatically means lower volume of sales! And in these days were the music market is slowly dying, it seems totally to buck that trend!

And all those great song title really give a hint for "content": He obviously has written a lot of the typical MK stuff... Redbud Tree, Radio City Serenade, Bluebird, all sound typical MK stuff to me. I hardly can wait to hear them all!!

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on May 30, 2012, 10:32:24 AM
Cheers BBB!   ;D     Maybe we will meet again next year!   :)

We'll meet again,
Don't know where,don't know when.
But I know we'll meet again, some sunny day.

 ;) ;D ;D. xxxxxxx

Cheers. BBB
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on May 30, 2012, 10:32:40 AM
I hope I will see you there too, LE!   :D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on May 30, 2012, 10:45:35 AM
During the STP sessions they recorded so much material that they could had been released a double cd as well, but they didnt consider it and that many tracks were abandoned forever. Actually one of them was played live (Pyroman) and other one was considered for live concerts but not played in the end (Bonafide) and Guy always mentioned that song as a very good one.

I
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on May 30, 2012, 10:51:50 AM
Yeah, and because they were not great (which I think the same), they were not on the album! I totally have trust in Mark's judgement when it comes to creating albums!

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on May 30, 2012, 11:07:52 AM
There is something in MKNEWS that just I didnt noticed before...

The piece of news in in the News section, then it says that you have to click in releases for more information, you do that and then you can read:

Provisional track listing

...

Provisional?

If MKNEWS said provisional, it may be a reason for that, as the information it provides its official, however that information was in play.com and after in Guy
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on May 30, 2012, 11:13:15 AM
I would not give too much on that. On MKNews a release date is still "provisional" when the album leaves the charts already...  ;D ;D

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on May 30, 2012, 11:34:07 AM
The next question is..........
To listen to snippets of new songs as they leak, get played on radio stations, youtube etc....over the coming months, or to wait till album is officially released?
For me, obviously apart from Privateering, Haul Away & Corned Beef City, because I saw them performed live during last years MK/BD tour, I'll be steering clear of listening until the release date. I love the 1st spin of the cd. Almost akin to a religious experience for me. ;D
Anyone else going to be strong???? :)

Cheers. BBB
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on May 30, 2012, 11:45:43 AM
I try very hard, BBB, but always give in eventually!   No staying power!   ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on May 30, 2012, 11:48:21 AM
I would like to listen everything as soon as I can, a first time its a first time...

The first time I listen to a new song

The first time I see the booklet and everything about the cd

The first time I listen to the whole thing song after song

There are a lot of "first times" waiting for me  ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on May 30, 2012, 11:49:01 AM
I always tried to, but never managed to persevere... When the first 30 seconds were out I jumped at it...!

But it would be great to have that unique feeling again that I had the last time when Shangri-La came out... Phantastic: Close the doors, close the windows, close the eyes and go on the journey for the first time, a journey that you already know you will repeat dozens of times...  :)

Maybe I'll try again this time!

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ds1984 on May 30, 2012, 12:16:35 PM
I would link this cover with the on for TRD : poverty. But one shows some happiness, is even hopeful, the other one has a depressing feel.

Do you think the sun is rising or setting? ??? ;)

This cover looks like the economical future for a bunch of people.
When you are hungry you don't care about the sun.
This is the meaning I give to that picture.

Let's see what clue Mark will give about it.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on May 30, 2012, 12:26:59 PM
I
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on May 30, 2012, 02:05:20 PM
I would link this cover with the on for TRD : poverty. But one shows some happiness, is even hopeful, the other one has a depressing feel.

Do you think the sun is rising or setting? ??? ;)

This cover looks like the economical future for a bunch of people.
When you are hungry you don't care about the sun.
This is the meaning I give to that picture.

Let's see what clue Mark will give about it.

Economical "Today is not Ok" too but an expensive box set is expected. We have poker chips and craps dice in GL deluxe. Looking at the new cover art I think we will find the soap and rope. Vinyl fans will be happy with the bonuses like old weels and branded garbage....
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on May 30, 2012, 03:03:44 PM
I've just thought of something regarding these tours.  Does anyone think that perhaps he will do the US with Dylan, play a few new tunes to promote the album and then return to Europe and tour here with his band on his solo tour without returning to the US?  It would be a big undertaking to tour for such a long time (Dylan US tour, then solo world tour) so he may use the Dylan one as a kind of replacement for the US leg of his solo tour.  It would be a pity for our US buddies.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on May 30, 2012, 03:10:43 PM
Hey dmg, I had the same idea two weeks ago - it seems very likely to me that he maybe replaces "his" US part of his own tour with the Bob-part and then returns to Europe and do a "real" proper tour!


I thought about it lately: Following the diary of the 2010 tour, it seems to me that the US are still a little "difficult" to tour for Mark - only very small venues, not that big audiences, maybe very expensive because of much travelling etc. So maybe MK kills two birds with one stone: Maybe a slightly longer set list as the 70 minutes from 2011, and that might it be for America. And after that, he tours Europe with a hopefully much longer set list - and without Bob!  ;)

LE

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on May 30, 2012, 03:13:16 PM
Hey dmg, I had the same idea two weeks ago - it seems very likely to me that he maybe replaces "his" US part of his own tour with the Bob-part and then returns to Europe and do a "real" proper tour!


I thought about it lately: Following the diary of the 2010 tour, it seems to me that the US are still a little "difficult" to tour for Mark - only very small venues, not that big audiences, maybe very expensive because of much travelling etc. So maybe MK kills two birds with one stone: Maybe a slightly longer set list as the 70 minutes from 2011, and that might it be for America. And after that, he tours Europe with a hopefully much longer set list - and without Bob!  ;)

LE

LE

Sorry, I'm a bit slow these days! ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on May 30, 2012, 03:14:52 PM
No, no, I just mean it is somewhat interesting when the same idea comes to mind from different people at this forum - we have a feeling for what is coming up it seems!  ;)

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Hoops McCann on May 30, 2012, 03:22:56 PM
I've just thought of something regarding these tours.  Does anyone think that perhaps he will do the US with Dylan, play a few new tunes to promote the album and then return to Europe and tour here with his band on his solo tour without returning to the US?  It would be a big undertaking to tour for such a long time (Dylan US tour, then solo world tour) so he may use the Dylan one as a kind of replacement for the US leg of his solo tour.  It would be a pity for our US buddies.

Let's all just hope that doesn't happen.  :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ds1984 on May 30, 2012, 04:31:49 PM
Mark toured in the US solo in 2005 and as a double bill in 2006.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on May 30, 2012, 04:54:01 PM
And that song about this New York Policeman seems not to be on it neither.

LE

Radio City Serenade?




Guy just confirmed at his forum that the song about the NY policeman is Radio City Serenada, where Chris Botti plays...

And in other answer, he failed to say in which songs Ruth Moody sung...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: DIFFICULTTOBELIEVE on May 30, 2012, 04:57:36 PM
I've just thought of something regarding these tours.  Does anyone think that perhaps he will do the US with Dylan, play a few new tunes to promote the album and then return to Europe and tour here with his band on his solo tour without returning to the US?  It would be a big undertaking to tour for such a long time (Dylan US tour, then solo world tour) so he may use the Dylan one as a kind of replacement for the US leg of his solo tour.  It would be a pity for our US buddies.

Let's all just hope that doesn't happen.  :)

I can't see MK touring the States twice within a year. I think 2013 will be Europe alone, maybe playing there a few weeks longer than usual and in some new venues, 'cos he's not doing the US again. A guess.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on May 30, 2012, 05:21:25 PM
I really hope that they dont come back to the States in 2013, at least not until Europe is done, by a VERY SELFISH reason... I may have the chance to attend the opening concert if its before may and if its in Europe by "reasons related to my work", so I really hope all of you are right on this  ;D

In the realistic hand, I
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: vgonis on May 30, 2012, 06:04:59 PM
I just thought of a heretic explanation of the title"Privateering".
It is a double CD so that means extra cost, so it is looting, from the company side, after all!
I am just kidding. The price at Play.com is 16.49 so almost the cost of a single CD. (at least that was the cost of GL when it first hit the shops.)

Superval, I think that my cup is already dry. Don't see things half - full or half - empty. I see them empty. It is not a pessimistic opinion, it is reality. They just turn people and nations against each other, while at the same time do whatever they wish with the environment, food education and health, that in the first place should be easier to get with the new technologies, but alas, they are harder. Just imagine what expectations we all had of the internet, and what has become of it. At times I even tend to believe that music lovers (like us) are given such treats not only for fan and enjoyment, but also to keep us sedated. And as Voltaire said, I may not agree with your opinion, but I will defend to the death your right to express it.   

And back on the subject. It is really hard to raise my expectations as high as I used to (when I was 13 and first heard DS). But MK is a fixation. His vocals, his guitar licks, etc. Sometimes I try to look from "outside" not as a fan, but as a casual listener, and the only thing I can say, is that I have been listening to some of MK's albums far less than other albums from contemporary artists, like Darren Hayman, Belle and Sebastian, Tindersticks, Coral etc.(Unfortunately not so much the Dandy Warhols, that he actually contributed ) But I am not going to fall into the speculation orbit. I can and will wait until the release. After all, repeated plays, several years after can make the difference and I would hate to change my mind and admit it here, again. (wink-wink)   
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: twm on May 30, 2012, 06:18:42 PM
It is said that there four basic personality types, when presented with a glass that is part-filled. One sees the glass as half-full and the second sees it as half-empty. The third just can't decide whether it's half-full or half-empty but the fourth takes a quick look and then screams very loudly and very violently, "I didn't want a (insert your own expletive) drink, I wanted a burger!!".
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on May 30, 2012, 06:22:42 PM
Hi VGONIS2002!     According to the link below the price at Play.com is
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on May 30, 2012, 06:43:05 PM
Nice mail Val...

Imagine that, if with a single cd, there are so many opinions, some good, some bad and some worse... if the record is double, well, all is double!!!

 ;D ;D ;D

By the way, its a very good price for a double cd.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on May 30, 2012, 07:27:01 PM
I was going through Guy's complete album diary and I think we are in for something really good and different! Lots of background voices, (Tim O'Brien is also mentioned having a nice voice together with Mark), then the clapping, the "unusual" background singing from the boys, the blues elements, because the "mere fact that Kim is here is a pointer to the style of some of the recordings..."  Then the heavy slide sound, probably on Corned Beef City, and having Privateering alone in a proper studio recording together with One take Haul Away will be worth the buy I am sure... Lots of acoustics, lots of nice and long lyrics, strings are on it, too, so I am expecting a really colourful bouquet of MK music this time!

When I think that it was just a few months ago that I "discovered" Hard Shoulder and The Car Was The One, I am sure I will have pleasure with MK's new album hopefully for a very long time!

Or to use that old picture again: Hopefully our next child (upps, they turn out to be twins!), well hopefully they are hale and hearty, so they will enrich our live for sure!

A little cheesy maybe but I hope you get the picture...  ;D

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on May 30, 2012, 07:38:16 PM
IOr to use that old picture again: Hopefully our next child (upps, they turn out to be twins!), well hopefully they are hale and hearty, so they will enrich our live for sure!

LE


Love it!!!   :lol     :lol   
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: joanzimm on May 30, 2012, 08:06:25 PM
Mark toured in the US solo in 2005 and as a double bill in 2006.

I'm hoping he does the full tour in the US in 2013.  I hate the thought of only seeing him for half the time if he shares the bill with Dylan.   :disbelief
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Banjo99uk on May 30, 2012, 09:37:00 PM
Like Superval I dont understand the negativity surrounding Privateering. As a massive Knopfler fan the thought of a double album is like winning the lottery.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: K-alberto on May 30, 2012, 09:41:06 PM
Like Superval I dont understand the negativity surrounding Privateering. As a massive Knopfler fan the thought of a double album is like winning the lottery.

Totally agree!!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Fieneke2 on May 31, 2012, 10:38:15 PM
Quote LE: Val und bbb, so there are two forumers already then that I can meet at the RAH next year!!  

Quote LE: Or to use that old picture again: Hopefully our next child (upps, they turn out to be twins!), well hopefully they are hale and hearty, so they will enrich our live for sure!

Respond: LE my husband and I try to be in London as well next year for the first concert (uuhhh Jans doesn
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Shai on June 01, 2012, 06:48:50 AM
A few thoughts on recent posts here:

1) I am thrilled about the double CD. TWENTY new songs!!
2) Re: album cover- the sun is setting, leaves are falling off trees, autumn turning into winter...
3) I hope MK does NOT tour with BD. I want THREE HOUR CONCERTS OF 100% MK!! (He could sit on that red stool/chair)
4) MK wants to play smaller venues. If he wanted to play big arenas, he'd reunite with DS, which he's not doing.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: holaknopfler on June 01, 2012, 11:03:53 AM
Quote LE: Val und bbb, so there are two forumers already then that I can meet at the RAH next year!!  

Quote LE: Or to use that old picture again: Hopefully our next child (upps, they turn out to be twins!), well hopefully they are hale and hearty, so they will enrich our live for sure!

Respond: LE my husband and I try to be in London as well next year for the first concert (uuhhh Jans doesn
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 01, 2012, 11:09:08 AM
Well, I
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on June 01, 2012, 11:18:41 AM

Respond to your message about
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Fieneke2 on June 01, 2012, 09:56:57 PM

LOL Superval!  ;D......No lucky there won't be 2 the same CD's ......uuuhhhh I hope!  ;D

I expect there will be different styles of music as always, which still makes that the music of Mark never is boring!

Often music of other artists (especial Dutch ones) have the same sound and lyrics like "How do you do, I love you!" After listening once you know the chorus because of its rhymes so it gets boring after listening a few times. .........BUT by listening to Mark's lyrics he is telling a story or about a person and even after listening many times I still don't know what exactly Mark is meaning with that song.

Do you all remember our interesting discussion about the meaning of Hill Farmer
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Banjo99uk on June 01, 2012, 10:56:58 PM
You are right Feinekie, MK always says that different people take different meanings from his songs and that they are all right.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 02, 2012, 12:34:12 AM
You are right Feinekie, MK always says that different people take different meanings from his songs and that they are all right.

I always wondered what
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Banjo99uk on June 02, 2012, 01:39:43 AM
You are right Feinekie, MK always says that different people take different meanings from his songs and that they are all right.

I always wondered what
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 02, 2012, 06:10:38 AM
It's true that for years double albums have been discouraged because they mean lower sales.  But I read yesterday that,  in Britain,  downloads have overtaken CDs for the first time.  So maybe it doesn't matter so much now.

Still a bold statement of intent by MK.  "Dire Straits? Fuck you.  I've got so much new music I have to put out a double album."
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on June 02, 2012, 10:43:49 AM
It is his seventh "solo" album, and he is "solo" for 16 years now - so both is more and longer than Dire Straits ever lasted... So he has really made it a solid and substantial career being without Dire Straits. He probably thinks of Dire Straits only as "the early days" or the "beginning" of his career...

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: qjamesfloyd on June 02, 2012, 11:45:55 AM
I think the fact Mark is about to release his first double album of original songs is amazing, and a real insight to how good a song writer he has become, plus it highlights the fact that Dire Straits became something that was holding back his songwriting,  by that I mean, I remember when he was doing press for the release of his first solo album Golden Heart, he said "These are just some songs that I needed to record" and when you hear the songs on Golden Heart, you realise(even more after all these years since 1996) that those songs are not DS songs, and couldn't have fitted into that form. There is a definite difference between DS and solo MK albums, the solo stuff more getting back to Mark's roots, not that DS wasn't, things like Wild West End, Tunnel of Love is about Mark's history, like a lot of his songs, but the solo albums takes that even further. So, the fact that Mark is bringing out his first double album in 2012 is incredible, and shows he is a very mature song writer, when his contemperies  seem to be lagging behind, like Paul McCartney(who i love) only having 2 original songs on his latest album, and mostly only singing.
I have always felt there is something extra special being a fan of MK, not only is he an amazing guitar player, song writer, producer, but he is a great man, we are very lucky.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on June 02, 2012, 11:52:31 AM
I have always felt there is something extra special being a fan of MK, not only is he an amazing guitar player, song writer, producer, but he is a great man, we are very lucky.

I couldn't agree more - and his voice is pretty good these days too!   ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on June 02, 2012, 11:59:38 AM
His guitar has always been second to none, but his voice in
recent years has become so much better, especially in respect
to the sorts of songs he is writing these days.
I noticed this change more so than ever during his collaboration
with Emmylou Harris on their duet album.

Cheers. BBB
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: qjamesfloyd on June 02, 2012, 12:00:15 PM
Your right there val, that cannot be underestimated either. His voice is so much better in the years after giving up smoking. And although at times he can still be accused of mumbling when live, his voice is amazing on record, however compared to Bob Dylans singing live on the last tour, Mark's voice live is great :lol
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on June 02, 2012, 12:06:39 PM
Just this morning I was listening to the COMPLETE 2010 Locarno show again - and although I acknowledge his real good singing on Piper To The End on the album for example, I like much more the way he sang it live - his raspy, sonorous voice is full of character and is something that belongs to him!

I remember when Get Lucky came out I talked to my sister about that album and she was wondering too about his vocal "adventures" on Time In The Sun, and Piper, and I said to her, "well, MK wants to   s i n g    these days" which made her burst out laughing...  :lol

He has a much better voice now, but please Mark, do not take TOO high challenges, I like it a lot as it always was!

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on June 02, 2012, 12:11:23 PM
I like most of what he performs live,  much more than the album version, which is more than can be said for a lot of artists.   :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on June 02, 2012, 01:11:21 PM
Sorry guys but I cannot let this go!  In some songs his vocal sounds better but in most of them he sounds weary now and was better sounding during the DS days.  Take BIA for example;  so weary now but sung so well during the BIA tour.  Sultans is another where it makes the song sound like it lacks even more energy than it does, but listen to the versions from 1978 and there's so much expression it sounds like he really puts some effort into it.

TR is now being sung better than ever though but that may be dude to the fact he doesn't have to compete with so many instruments playing so loud. :-\

It's true that he sounds better than he did in the late 90s/early 2000s but he has sounded much better in his time.

His songwriting too is - for the most part - more simple than it was during DS days where you had to go and search for the meaning but now it is mostly plainly evident and they had better, more memorable melodies too.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on June 02, 2012, 01:22:20 PM
Sorry dmg, but you keep harking back to 30-odd years ago, when MK was in his late-twenties and thirties!   He is now approaching 63!    You keep going on about his lack of energy, but will you be the same as you are now when you are 63?   Unfortunately, I doubt if I'll still be around to know!   :lol
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: qjamesfloyd on June 02, 2012, 01:46:44 PM
I agree with you Val, he has nothing to prove anymore now, 30 years ago he had more energy, just watch the Alchemy Blue-ray for evidence of that, but as a song writer/performer you have to mature over the years, and I maintain Mark has matured in many ways, and far better than a lot of other people of his like.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on June 02, 2012, 04:00:52 PM
Sorry dmg, but you keep harking back to 30-odd years ago, when MK was in his late-twenties and thirties!   He is now approaching 63!    You keep going on about his lack of energy, but will you be the same as you are now when you are 63?   Unfortunately, I doubt if I'll still be around to know!   :lol
Sorry to argue my case but I never raised the point that he sung better than ever.  I still feel that even at his age (which isn't actually that old) he could still manage to give a little more sweat! :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on June 02, 2012, 04:14:13 PM
Interesting discussion here... It seems that I in the minority, too, when I say that I think his singing on "What A Wonderful World" for example could be better - he sounds VERY lax and almost powerless... Guy announced a totally phantastic vocal experience, and I read from many forumers how much they like it... I don't. I like his singing on the Get Lucky album though, expecially on Border Reiver, Before Gas & TV (!) and Monteleone, whereas this "half-arsed" singing is present on You Can't Beat The House and on Cleaning My Gun...  But those songs are great, too, so who cares! We will have 20 new songs to judge, soon, a fact that I am very keen of!  :D

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: holaknopfler on June 02, 2012, 04:20:00 PM
He once said to Clive James: 'I'm not a singer, I just stagger from one crisis to the next'.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on June 02, 2012, 05:19:03 PM
He once said to Clive James: 'I'm not a singer, I just stagger from one crisis to the next'.

I somehow remember that!  Quite funny as I always enjoyed his vocal even though he wasn't a "singer" in the true or traditional sense of the word.  However it was the very fact he sounded different that was what I liked and the guitar and melody carried the tune anyway without the need for a powerful or traditional vocal.  The main thing one needs a vocal for anyway is to convey the lyrics to the listener!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 02, 2012, 05:36:23 PM
did anyone pre-ordered the record?

I was about to do it, but decided to wait for news about "the box".
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on June 02, 2012, 05:36:58 PM
Sorry dmg, but you keep harking back to 30-odd years ago, when MK was in his late-twenties and thirties!   He is now approaching 63!    You keep going on about his lack of energy, but will you be the same as you are now when you are 63?   Unfortunately, I doubt if I'll still be around to know!   :lol
Sorry to argue my case but I never raised the point that he sung better than ever.  I still feel that even at his age (which isn't actually that old) he could still manage to give a little more sweat! :)

dmg - I didn't mention his voice in my reply to you, only that you seem to think he can be the same now, energy-wise, as he was 30 years ago.   Of course, he isn't as energetic as, say, when he did Alchemy, and I know 63 isn't very old, but I still think he does pretty well, considering all the travelling involved to 90+ venues, a different hotel every night and then having to perform.   I'm sure that would be pretty tiring in itself for most of us on this forum, whatever our age may be!    
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Hoops McCann on June 02, 2012, 05:39:14 PM
Like Superval I dont understand the negativity surrounding Privateering. As a massive Knopfler fan the thought of a double album is like winning the lottery.

People love to criticize upcoming albums without even hearing them via the internet because it's so easy to do. I always say ignore it and let the music do the talking.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 02, 2012, 05:43:41 PM
Like Superval I dont understand the negativity surrounding Privateering. As a massive Knopfler fan the thought of a double album is like winning the lottery.

People love to criticize upcoming albums without even hearing them via the internet because it's so easy to do. I always say ignore it and let the music do the talking.

Am I losing something? I didnt read any negativity about the record...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on June 02, 2012, 05:54:42 PM
Like Superval I dont understand the negativity surrounding Privateering. As a massive Knopfler fan the thought of a double album is like winning the lottery.

People love to criticize upcoming albums without even hearing them via the internet because it's so easy to do. I always say ignore it and let the music do the talking.

Am I losing something? I didnt read any negativity about the record...

You need to go back a few pages, jbaent!   ;D     It was just implied that the cover art seems to send out a message that the album could be depressing, etc probably because of the economic climate.  Also that a double album could have too many fillers, or something like that!   ::)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Hoops McCann on June 02, 2012, 05:59:38 PM
Like Superval I dont understand the negativity surrounding Privateering. As a massive Knopfler fan the thought of a double album is like winning the lottery.

People love to criticize upcoming albums without even hearing them via the internet because it's so easy to do. I always say ignore it and let the music do the talking.

Am I losing something? I didnt read any negativity about the record...

I'll quote Jackal since he seems to have left the building anyway for unknown reasons:

I'd rather have a 38 minute album with killer songs, than a 150 minute 2 CD album with a hodge podge of good and bad. Sorry, but even Mark can't fill two CDs with great songs. Unless he's going in a certain direction with the album, it's very difficult to sustain the attention. We'll see.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on June 02, 2012, 06:18:58 PM
That would be very sad. Jackal has obviously deleted his account??  ???

I was about to say that it might be allowed for him not to post a week or four but then checked his account.

That is bad news!

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on June 02, 2012, 06:23:36 PM
Yes, I noticed, a few days ago.   I will miss his posts and I hope he returns eventually.  I think I read a while ago, that he might take a break, but to delete his account....... :-\
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on June 02, 2012, 10:50:23 PM
Yes, I noticed, a few days ago.   I will miss his posts and I hope he returns eventually.  I think I read a while ago, that he might take a break, but to delete his account....... :-\

That's really too bad.  Perhaps when the new album comes out or one of the tours is ongoing his interest may be rekindled, then it truly will be The Day of the Jackal! ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Banjo99uk on June 02, 2012, 11:19:10 PM
Yes, I noticed, a few days ago.   I will miss his posts and I hope he returns eventually.  I think I read a while ago, that he might take a break, but to delete his account....... :-\

That's really too bad.  Perhaps when the new album comes out or one of the tours is ongoing his interest may be rekindled, then it truly will be The Day of the Jackal! ;D

Thats a shame. What happened?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pottel on June 03, 2012, 10:03:12 AM
Got no clue whatsoever, what happened?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on June 03, 2012, 10:10:29 AM
Got no clue whatsoever, what happened?

Pottel,  I remember him saying, a few weeks ago, that he was thinking of pursuing other interests for a while, but without finding his post again, I can't remember exactly what he actually said.   :-\   I hope he is still reading the forum, so he knows we are thinking of him, kindly.     :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: holaknopfler on June 03, 2012, 11:39:51 AM
Please come back Jackal if you read this, I really love your posts. You always come up with great subjects to talk about!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: holaknopfler on June 03, 2012, 11:41:13 AM
Oh one more thing! I'm going to play privateering this afternoon on an open session, will record it! (sorry for off topic, but the title says 'privateering' ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on June 03, 2012, 11:42:52 AM
I had "my" (very short) break a few weeks ago (nobody noticed  :lol) - but Jackal really seems not to intend to come back as he has deleted every link (about his literature blog and guitar building etc.) so it seems he has some concrete reason to leave this place. I was not aware about any fight or disagreement, so it's a pity!

However, he could have said "Bye" at least!  ;)

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on June 03, 2012, 12:32:53 PM
However, he could have said "Bye" at least!  ;)

LE

That applies to Rollergirl, too!    I would have liked her to have said "Cheerio" too and given us the reason for her departure!   Maybe she is still reading the forum.   :)

btw LE, I did notice your short break - I will be having one very soon for about a month!   :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on June 03, 2012, 12:38:29 PM
Ah, probably early September, when nothing interesting is happening anyway around here, am I right?  ;D

(I know of couse, but that was pm, val, so not "official")


LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on June 03, 2012, 12:45:16 PM
Just a holiday in the sun!    :D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on June 03, 2012, 03:41:14 PM
I am watching the Queen's Thames Diamond Jubilee Pageant on TV: I am sooo jealous of you Brits, would love to be there, too...  :D

but one thing is clear now, it is totally obviously clear that Mark's new song HOT OR WHAT is about Kate of course! Don't you think?  ;D

Jeeeeez...

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on June 03, 2012, 05:20:58 PM
I'm watching too, with my family - we will be having a celebration dinner later on!   :D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Justme on June 03, 2012, 07:31:14 PM
You gotta love the Brits! ;-)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 03, 2012, 07:33:27 PM
Well, all the celebrations are amazing, I watched some of them in the news reports in Spain and looked interesting, a pitty nobody broadcast it here...

The concert will be broadcast by a spanish radio but as far as I know, no TV in Spain will do. Anyway MK wont be there, so I dont mind so much  ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Banjo99uk on June 03, 2012, 08:53:42 PM
I am watching the Queen's Thames Diamond Jubilee Pageant on TV: I am sooo jealous of you Brits, would love to be there, too...  :D

but one thing is clear now, it is totally obviously clear that Mark's new song HOT OR WHAT is about Kate of course! Don't you think?  ;D

Jeeeeez...

LE


What about that charming fella Camilla Parker Bowles
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pottel on June 03, 2012, 08:59:11 PM
funny bloke he is...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on June 04, 2012, 12:08:23 AM
Hey, are you talkin' to me?

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pottel on June 04, 2012, 12:54:59 AM
nope, camilla.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Waterline Man on June 04, 2012, 01:01:37 AM
However, he could have said "Bye" at least!  ;)

LE

That applies to Rollergirl, too!    I would have liked her to have said "Cheerio" too and given us the reason for her departure!   Maybe she is still reading the forum.   :)

btw LE, I did notice your short break - I will be having one very soon for about a month!   :)

Nobody missed me either,I'm really pissed off about that, but like big brother I have been watching :o :o :o I'm like Arnie though I'm back :disbelief :disbelief Great news about the double cd - have to admit I dont like the cover though,looks like something that Dellboy & Rodney would drive :o :o
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Banjo99uk on June 04, 2012, 01:06:55 AM
Waterline Man, somebody did ask where you and others were whilst discussing the forum.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Waterline Man on June 04, 2012, 01:09:11 AM
Waterline Man, somebody did ask where you and others were whilst discussing the forum.

Thanks Banjo,Dusty paid the ransom to get me out ;) ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on June 04, 2012, 08:51:47 AM
Waterline Man who????
Never heard of him! ;)

Cheers. BBB
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pottel on June 04, 2012, 09:01:25 AM
However, he could have said "Bye" at least!  ;)

LE

That applies to Rollergirl, too!    I would have liked her to have said "Cheerio" too and given us the reason for her departure!   Maybe she is still reading the forum.   :)

btw LE, I did notice your short break - I will be having one very soon for about a month!   :)

Nobody missed me either,I'm really pissed off about that, but like big brother I have been watching :o :o :o I'm like Arnie though I'm back :disbelief :disbelief Great news about the double cd - have to admit I dont like the cover though,looks like something that Dellboy & Rodney would drive :o :o
i did, i was just ashamed to admit it brother... ::)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on June 04, 2012, 09:41:01 AM
Nice to see you again W/M - I missed you!    :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on June 04, 2012, 03:09:11 PM
Funny thing about the Jubilee celebrations is I saw them from here in unseasonable sunny warmth from sunny Scotland but unfortunately it rained down in London town!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Waterline Man on June 04, 2012, 10:04:04 PM
Nice to see you again W/M - I missed you!    :)

Thanks Val 8) - thats the joys of having kids,no time for yourself anymore :o :o.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Waterline Man on June 04, 2012, 10:04:55 PM
Waterline Man who????
Never heard of him! ;)

Cheers. BBB

Bi**h :o :o :o :-* :-*
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pottel on June 05, 2012, 12:49:16 AM
ok now WM, that was enough posts for a while now.... :lol
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: vgonis on June 05, 2012, 05:55:34 AM
http://iamdrifter.wordpress.com/2012/06/01/interlude-3-that-which-remains/
you can follow Jackal's posts here.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Fieneke2 on June 05, 2012, 09:48:04 PM
Waterline Man who????
Never heard of him! ;)

Cheers. BBB

ROFL BBB! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Roflbig.gif)

I am like you WM! ;) I come reading when I have time and try to post as often as I can, but with many things going
on in my life there isn't time to be here everyday! ......I hope that soon might change and I will have more time for the forum again!

Btw of course I miss other regular posters as well and hope they will be back also!

Fieneke
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 06, 2012, 09:32:04 AM
I always like to read comments of all the usual suspects here, its like family...

And of course, comments from new users as well, new additions to the family  ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 12, 2012, 04:53:49 PM
You might remember I commented that MKNEWS put "Provisional track list" when refering to the Privateering double cd tracklist...

Well, right now, in MKNEWS and at mk.com, the tracklist is GONE.

Maybe it doesnt mean anything, maybe it means something, and if it does... what does it means?

If it does mean something, I think about the 2cd version will have less songs, and that songs will be added to the "deluxe box" in order to make it more attractive... thats my guess.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Jarle on June 12, 2012, 05:34:17 PM
You might remember I commented that MKNEWS put "Provisional track list" when refering to the Privateering double cd tracklist...

Well, right now, in MKNEWS and at mk.com, the tracklist is GONE.

Maybe it doesnt mean anything, maybe it means something, and if it does... what does it means?

If it does mean something, I think about the 2cd version will have less songs, and that songs will be added to the "deluxe box" in order to make it more attractive... thats my guess.

Hm... Strange. However, the full 20 song track list is still present on Guy's webpage, so I suppose that's the right one...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 12, 2012, 05:39:52 PM
You might remember I commented that MKNEWS put "Provisional track list" when refering to the Privateering double cd tracklist...

Well, right now, in MKNEWS and at mk.com, the tracklist is GONE.

Maybe it doesnt mean anything, maybe it means something, and if it does... what does it means?

If it does mean something, I think about the 2cd version will have less songs, and that songs will be added to the "deluxe box" in order to make it more attractive... thats my guess.

Hm... Strange. However, the full 20 song track list is still present on Guy's webpage, so I suppose that's the right one...

Yes, but, if the 20 tracklist was on both officials sites before... whay arent now?

Something happened. maybe its nothing, but...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Jarle on June 12, 2012, 05:51:12 PM
You might remember I commented that MKNEWS put "Provisional track list" when refering to the Privateering double cd tracklist...

Well, right now, in MKNEWS and at mk.com, the tracklist is GONE.

Maybe it doesnt mean anything, maybe it means something, and if it does... what does it means?

If it does mean something, I think about the 2cd version will have less songs, and that songs will be added to the "deluxe box" in order to make it more attractive... thats my guess.

Hm... Strange. However, the full 20 song track list is still present on Guy's webpage, so I suppose that's the right one...

Yes, but, if the 20 tracklist was on both officials sites before... whay arent now?

Something happened. maybe its nothing, but...

You've got a point. I hope it's in our favor...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: foma on June 12, 2012, 07:47:07 PM
Today I saw this on the streets of Russia ;D

(http://i25.fastpic.ru/big/2012/0612/0f/f0fdd35daa6ee91489215dd6ea14760f.jpg)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 12, 2012, 08:36:58 PM
Today I saw this on the streets of Russia ;D

(http://i25.fastpic.ru/big/2012/0612/0f/f0fdd35daa6ee91489215dd6ea14760f.jpg)

Too much wheels ;)

LOL
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Rolleyway Man on June 12, 2012, 10:29:30 PM
Hmmm. Have to say I find it ever so slightly disconcerting that they have removed the tracklisting from both MKNews and MK.com. Would be somewhat of a let down if they were to reduce it after having already announced it as a 20-track double album. We can but wait.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on June 12, 2012, 10:52:46 PM
Hmmm. Have to say I find it ever so slightly disconcerting that they have removed the tracklisting from both MKNews and MK.com. Would be somewhat of a let down if they were to reduce it after having already announced it as a 20-track double album. We can but wait.

Maybe they've decided to add more tracks - lets be optimistic! :)

Maybe a triple album!!! :lol
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: vgonis on June 12, 2012, 10:56:12 PM
We had nothing, but names and number of tracks. No use talking about it. Maybe it is the slightly special edition. Or the executive one. Or the super limited edition for the fans of AMIT. Or last but not least the blow up edition. You get 4 CDs to play in two locations at the same time.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: rudiger on June 12, 2012, 10:57:26 PM
Maybe some title or the order of the tracks are not definitive.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Hoops McCann on June 13, 2012, 01:17:32 AM
Or the super limited edition for the fans of AMIT.

You didn't get the order info for that one? Oh...er...sorry about that.  :-[
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on June 13, 2012, 07:48:07 AM
Or Terry has to include the TRACK LENGTHS. Well, that would take his time, wouldn't it.

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Tally on June 13, 2012, 05:18:34 PM
The great irony about this is of course that what is supposed to be so great about MK News is that the 'news' is always official, reliable, definitive, and pretty much set in stone.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 13, 2012, 05:59:46 PM
The great irony about this is of course that what is supposed to be so great about MK News is that the 'news' is always official, reliable, definitive, and pretty much set in stone.

Actually, since the very beguining, in MKNEWS it was said "Provisional Tracklist", as I mentioned here the very same day it was released, so, if there is any change, we knew that it was provisional, so, its official, its realiable, and since it was said as "provisional" is not, obviously, set in stone.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ingridswing on June 13, 2012, 07:20:54 PM
I suppose it has something to do with the one who is doing the "news" on both sites. He is always called Mr Important, so maybe he thinks he can keep things for himself. By the way on HMV the setlist is still there.

You might remember I commented that MKNEWS put "Provisional track list" when refering to the Privateering double cd tracklist...

Well, right now, in MKNEWS and at mk.com, the tracklist is GONE.

Maybe it doesnt mean anything, maybe it means something, and if it does... what does it means?

If it does mean something, I think about the 2cd version will have less songs, and that songs will be added to the "deluxe box" in order to make it more attractive... thats my guess.

Hm... Strange. However, the full 20 song track list is still present on Guy's webpage, so I suppose that's the right one...

Yes, but, if the 20 tracklist was on both officials sites before... whay arent now?

Something happened. maybe its nothing, but...

You've got a point. I hope it's in our favor...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on June 13, 2012, 07:25:01 PM
I bet it's because someone told Mark that Beanstalk is written Beanstalk and not Bean Stalk... So he fell into a deep depression and thought about shelving the whole damned thing, but now he is just re-writing the track listing....

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 13, 2012, 07:43:51 PM
Keep things for himself? What things? The tracklist was already in the site, and as provisional tracklist, so what is keeping? If its deleted from the site has to be because someone (the record company or the management) asked him to do it...

I can understand that you dont like him by whatever the reasons, I respect that, but in this case, I really think that you are chasing ghosts and letting that "whatever" happened affect your opinion about it.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Tally on June 13, 2012, 08:08:30 PM
The great irony about this is of course that what is supposed to be so great about MK News is that the 'news' is always official, reliable, definitive, and pretty much set in stone.

Actually, since the very beguining, in MKNEWS it was said "Provisional Tracklist", as I mentioned here the very same day it was released, so, if there is any change, we knew that it was provisional, so, its official, its realiable, and since it was said as "provisional" is not, obviously, set in stone.

Yes, I was not aware of it at the time but I know you mentioned it the other day. It was basically a nod to the criticism that MK News is often behind in terms of releasing news, but that it is on the other hand supposed to be reliable. We'll see what happens.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Banjo99uk on June 13, 2012, 08:51:43 PM
At least MK news didn't release the last album early on the internet. Oops.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 13, 2012, 09:10:15 PM
At least MK news didn't release the last album early on the internet. Oops.

Not, it was a "mistake" by the canadians that are in charge of www.markknopfler.com, nothing to do with MKnews...

And honestly, I hope they do it again  ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 13, 2012, 09:59:44 PM
At least MK news didn't release the last album early on the internet. Oops.
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Lol
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ds1984 on June 13, 2012, 11:29:58 PM
At least MK news didn't release the last album early on the internet. Oops.

Not, it was a "mistake" by the canadians that are in charge of www.markknopfler.com, nothing to do with MKnews...

And honestly, I hope they do it again  ;D

If only the person in charge of the archives at Mercury could do the same : demos, outtakes, unreleased live recordings....
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on June 14, 2012, 12:05:31 AM
Amazon.de in Germany says Privateering will be released on September 11th... Huh??

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on June 14, 2012, 12:28:52 AM
Amazon.de in Germany says Privateering will be released on September 11th... Huh??

LE

Released or Imported? The same for amazon.com. It looks like the CD with ASIN: B0086449YA is a UK local release.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 14, 2012, 12:23:23 PM
Ustas, you usually have acces to some leaks from Universal Russia, do you heard anything?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on June 14, 2012, 03:53:06 PM
Ustas, you usually have acces to some leaks from Universal Russia, do you heard anything?

I never had any access to any "leaks" from UM Russia. Early the detailed releases schedule was available for all visitors. This page was deleted several years ago. Meanwhile some European UM websites have the "releaseplan" pages and they are linked from index:

Denmark
http://www.universal.dk/releaseplan

Norway
http://www.universalmusic.no/Releaseplan/

Poland
http://www.universalmusic.pl/plan

Also there is a "future releases" page at German UM website but this page is "hidden" and I lost the web address.

The US schedule (including Warner Bros. / Rhino) could be found at http://www.newmusictipsheet.com/
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 14, 2012, 05:41:57 PM
Oh, I was wrong then, I thought you had some contacts... Thanks for the explanation.

There is nothing about MK release in any of that sites yet.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on June 14, 2012, 07:47:24 PM


There is nothing about MK release in any of that sites yet.

it's expected to be provided within next 2-3 weeks.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: goldenheart96 on June 15, 2012, 10:20:30 PM
At least MK news didn't release the last album early on the internet. Oops.

Not, it was a "mistake" by the canadians that are in charge of www.markknopfler.com, nothing to do with MKnews...

And honestly, I hope they do it again  ;D

If only the person in charge of the archives at Mercury could do the same : demos, outtakes, unreleased live recordings....

And an effing official live DVD.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Banjo99uk on June 16, 2012, 01:06:10 AM
one day when MK is old and knackered and his record company want to milk his name Im sure we will get some extra stuff. Until then I want new MK stuff.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pottel on June 16, 2012, 05:14:28 AM
one day when MK is old and knackered and his record company want to milk his name Im sure we will get some extra stuff. Until then I want new MK stuff.
+1.   :lol
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on June 16, 2012, 08:08:25 AM
one day when MK is old and knackered and his record company want to milk his name Im sure we will get some extra stuff. Until then I want new MK stuff.

But until then I'm old and knackered, too! I want it all, and I want it NOW!   ;D :disbelief

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Tally on June 16, 2012, 10:38:11 AM
Three years between albums should mean room for some old goodies as well. Like Dylan and Springsteen do, for example. But MK wants to be in control of all such stuff I guess, so no time.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Maxx on June 16, 2012, 02:00:43 PM
Three years between albums should mean room for some old goodies as well. Like Dylan and Springsteen do, for example. But MK wants to be in control of all such stuff I guess, so no time.

The differences between Dylan/Springsteen to MK is that they are icons with an insane number of fans, which in the end will make money for the record company whatever they release. I don't think that MK has made any larger amounts of money since STP (beside DS money).

It would be interesting to look into a parallel universe where DS never disbanded. Just for fun.  :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Banjo99uk on June 16, 2012, 03:03:02 PM
There is an interesting interview from a couple of years ago where MK talks about money and that he doesn't want or need any more. He said something like "what would I do with it? buy a yacht?". I think Mk is mindful about the cost of cds, tickets ets to his fans. I am sure he could easily make more
money if he wanted to. It would be interesting though to see the difference in album sales if all his solo stuff was labelled DS.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on June 16, 2012, 03:07:51 PM
There is an interesting interview from a couple of years ago where MK talks about money and that he doesn't want or need any more. He said something like "what would I do with it? buy a yacht?". I think Mk is mindful about the cost of cds, tickets ets to his fans. I am sure he could easily make more
money if he wanted to. It would be interesting though to see the difference in album sales if all his solo stuff was labelled DS.

He could donate all the profit to the charities he is patron of if making money bothers him so much! :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: twm on June 16, 2012, 05:38:50 PM
The thing is that MK has made and continues to make enough money that he no longer has to make decisions based on money-making criteria. That is not to say that he is not interested in the success, financially or otherwise, of what he does currently but it does mean that he can do what just he wants to do and just when he wants to do it, that the financial considerations are not the prime motivator. There may be pressures from his recording company and so on but I suggest that these weigh less heavily these days.

My conclusion is that the songs he is writing now and the sorts of albums he is making are simply what he wants to do now - but that may change. Indeed, I would hope that it does change.

My concern is that many AMITers hark back to the DS days, seen almost as a golden era. Take it from someone who knows (I am a Dylan fan after all), get over it.  That person, that MK, has moved on. Enjoy the music for what it was then and for what it means to you now. Enjoy it for it meant to you then and for its ability to take you back to your younger days but always remember, nobody can go back in time.

Who knows, maybe MK will reform a version of DS at some future point in time (maybe not) but, if he did and even if the music sounded exactly the same as it did back then, it would not be the same. Both you and the musicians would have changed. You would be different people. In my view, it would all be rather sad. At least you get an MK who does play DS songs with something that, to some degree, at least approximates a DS sound (to my "illiterate" ears, anyway).  

If you have followed Bob Dylan over a long period  of time as I have (and I first saw him live in 1965), change is about the only thing you can depend - and rightly so - and often the changes have been very abrupt.  It is as though, when he makes a step change, he takes ona wholly different personality. He has chopped and changed his style, his demeanour, his outlook, his frame of reference and so many other aspects of his perfomances, so many times, that just keeping up has not always been easy. Each time, you either accept it or you don't. MK's musical development has been a touch slower in pace, more controlled one could say, more considered and deliberate perhaps, a steadier evolution from what he was to what he is now. In that sense, he moves on but still retains some attachment to what has gone before. Enjoy it for what it is.

For me, with a few exceptions, I can't even tell you which of MK's songs, as performed live, come from the DS days and which from his post-DS days and that's a very good thing. It means his doing he's job properly. I have to admit that I can't readily tell you which song comes from which album. I just enjoy, them or not, as I sit and listen - or stand and listen.    

If MK chose to do his next tour (should I get to attend any shows) made up entirely or substantially of songs from the new album, I wouldn't be listing the old songs that I wished he had played. I would trying to get into the new songs, as best I am able, given I don't have the same level of keeness that most of you have.

In the words of our American cousins, get with the programme.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dustyvalentino on June 16, 2012, 08:28:28 PM
Said it before and I'll say it again, I prefer the solo stuff.  Can yo imagine being a fan of saying Status Quo, heating the same songs every tour?  It's bad enough with mk and he does mostly solo stuff now.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: twm on June 16, 2012, 09:34:51 PM
Me, too. I prefer the "sound" of the new songs.

But I did say, "many AMITers  ..." and not "all AMITers  ...".
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 17, 2012, 06:01:26 PM
I dont listen Dire Straits stuff from a long ago (and it was the Hoston 85 bootleg by the way) and actually I have in the car (where I listen most of my music nowadays...) a mp3 cd with all MK solo songs in random, and its been there for a while and it will last a while longer...

I like his solo stuff more, and I guess that because I grow old too. DS music still shakes me when its needed, but MK music makes my day almost everyday. I
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on June 17, 2012, 06:32:11 PM
I must say that some of the song titles sound really promising: Hot Or What, Gator Blood, Don't Forget Your Hat... I really want to hear them as soon as possible... How long, how long baby, ....

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ds1984 on June 18, 2012, 11:45:34 AM
There are tons of material worth it both from solo or from DS area but to put out unreleased stuff on the market you have to reach an agreement between Mark and Mercury and others right holder parties.

I guess that Mercury if allowed would problably release old DS stuff as this brand is still (very?) bankable but Mark is just interested in putting new stuff out and won't let them do it.






Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: tunnel85 on June 18, 2012, 05:59:42 PM
I must say that some of the song titles sound really promising: Hot Or What, Gator Blood, Don't Forget Your Hat... I really want to hear them as soon as possible... How long, how long baby, ....

LE
Agree that it sounds very promising but I don't pay too much attention to that. Live material can be so different and much better.
I must admit that no more than 6 or 7 tracks out of 20 will have a chance to be played live though. Then first shot studio versions has to be good since they could be the only try.  ::)

Reminds me of the Ragpicker's dream.
The most promising titles were without hesitation Marbletown and Coyote and I found them very very disappointing. Probably too much expectation. A few years later, new arrangements, MORE GUITARS, and the promising titles became the greatest ones.  8)



   
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 23, 2012, 08:11:45 AM
Universal Spain released yesterday a note about the new record, with a release date of September 4th...

So it looks like spanish will have to wait a day more.

Not any reference to any box set or anything else.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on June 23, 2012, 05:06:29 PM


Not any reference to any box set or anything else.

UM Denmark confirms the standard (2CD) release only.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: twm on June 23, 2012, 09:08:58 PM
Release dates vary by country - or, to be more precise, according to sales territories.

It is not uncommon to have a UK release date on a Monday and the US release date as the Tuesday. Even then, the same album might be released in Germany and Italy on the preceding Friday. Often. it just fits in with (or used to fit in with) how the album charts are compiled - which day are the sales counted to establish the chart listing. A well-timed release might garner large enough sales in a day or two to get into the chart and just getting into the chart, in itself, might gain a few more sales for the album.

Now that all of this is compturised, things are a lot more strict. It used to be less strict. If Monday was the official release date here in the UK, the record shops would often get their delivery on the Saturday (sometimes on the Friday) beforehand. If you knew your record retailer personally and if he knew you bought almost everything by a particular artist, then he would sometimes let you have the album prior to the official release date and put the sale through his sytem on the Monday. You got the record early, he got his sale (you didn't go somewhere else for it) and the record company notched up another contribution towards potential chart success.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 24, 2012, 10:21:33 AM
As I expect that the record would be leaked (as usual) some time before the release, I would wait one day more paciently, but... if its not leaked, I
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on June 24, 2012, 03:33:12 PM
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Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: goldenheart96 on June 24, 2012, 08:13:55 PM
Hm, German amazon has Sept 11 listed as release date...  ???

http://www.amazon.de/Privateering-Mark-Knopfler/dp/B0086449YA/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1340561517&sr=1-1
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on June 24, 2012, 09:24:04 PM
Universal Spain released yesterday a note about the new record, with a release date of September 4th...

Just one note: referring to UM Spain the album featured 96-ers + new drummer Ian Thomas, John McCusker, Mike McGoldrick, Kim Wilson, Tim O'Brien, Ruth Moody, Paul Franklin, Phil Cunningham. If I remember, previously, MKNews had the band information including Chris Botti, but his name was removed from the site  ???
Hm, German amazon has Sept 11 listed as release date...  ???

http://www.amazon.de/Privateering-Mark-Knopfler/dp/B0086449YA/ref=sr_1_1?s=music&ie=UTF8&qid=1340561517&sr=1-1

It's mentioned as the import (from UK, check ASIN). The release dates for other EU countries and USA are not announced yet, excluding Spain, mentioned above.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: holaknopfler on June 25, 2012, 03:15:48 PM
I thought it was nice to share.

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wWZRs6MYApQ
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pottel on June 25, 2012, 07:28:02 PM
The electric's sound is nice and warm. Who is this? Respect! Bit of a difficult song to sing for such a young boy though. Guitar player I do like!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: holaknopfler on June 25, 2012, 08:29:50 PM
It's difficult indeed. I should have played it with capo on the second, but I realised it afterwards. The electric guitar player is Wiebe Hof, great player and one of the nicest people you can think of:)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: xxFordiexx on June 25, 2012, 11:38:40 PM
It's difficult indeed. I should have played it with capo on the second, but I realised it afterwards. The electric guitar player is Wiebe Hof, great player and one of the nicest people you can think of:)

That my friend is just superb...... well done :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Hoops McCann on June 26, 2012, 01:56:55 AM
Very nice, Lars, I listened to it a couple of times.  :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on June 26, 2012, 08:05:57 AM
Love it!!!!
Thanks for sharing

Cheers. BBB
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: kaleo74 on June 26, 2012, 09:45:30 AM
Bravo Lars,
Well done, just need to fix it with the bass player ;)
superb
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on June 30, 2012, 10:59:29 AM
UM Germany
http://www.universal-music.de/news/alle-genres/news/article:208039/mark-knopfler-ist-zurueck-mit-neuem-album-privateering


Mark Knopfler ist zur
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on June 30, 2012, 02:34:56 PM
Hey ustas, thanks a lot! Nice to have it so early, Aug 31st the earliest release date so far for Privteering!

Nothing new or important to translate here however, the usual stuff about the Dire Straits icon - releasing his eighth solo album...
(I guess they count All The Roadrunning in?)

The album obviously contains brandnew material that is located on both sides of the Atlantic and offers lots of different genres - the usual stuff about any MK album - BUT they also write that "for example, there are "many" new blues tracks on it...".

Happy!  :D

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: border_reiver on June 30, 2012, 06:51:48 PM

The album obviously contains brandnew material that is located on both sides of the Atlantic and offers lots of different genres - the usual stuff about any MK album - BUT they also write that "for example, there are "many" new blues tracks on it...".

Happy!  :D

LE

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on June 30, 2012, 07:43:13 PM

The album obviously contains brandnew material that is located on both sides of the Atlantic and offers lots of different genres - the usual stuff about any MK album - BUT they also write that "for example, there are "many" new blues tracks on it...".

Happy!  :D

LE

YAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYYY!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

 ;D


Sounds good to me too!    :D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on June 30, 2012, 08:24:40 PM
Hey, Val, welcome back!  8)

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on June 30, 2012, 09:04:43 PM
MK BLUES!!!!! 8) 8)
Now we're talking :)

Cheers. BBB


Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on June 30, 2012, 09:05:22 PM
Thanks, LE!   It's nice to be back, but I could do without the rain!    ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 30, 2012, 10:20:06 PM
Thanks, LE!   It's nice to be back, but I could do without the rain!    ;D

Oh please, I need the rain, 42
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on June 30, 2012, 10:22:11 PM
Hey ustas, thanks a lot! Nice to have it so early, Aug 31st the earliest release date so far for Privteering!

Nothing new or important to translate here however, the usual stuff about the Dire Straits icon - releasing his eighth solo album...
(I guess they count All The Roadrunning in?)

The album obviously contains brandnew material that is located on both sides of the Atlantic and offers lots of different genres - the usual stuff about any MK album - BUT they also write that "for example, there are "many" new blues tracks on it...".

Happy!  :D

LE

Looks like Universal is distributing this information all around. I read one like this but in spanish, also the same comment about the blues songs...

interesting that the record will be available on august 31st. If its not leaked before, I guess our dear friends would gift us with some mp3 until the release date arrive to the unfortunate countries that will have to wait four days more (as Spain)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: shangri la 1 on July 01, 2012, 02:37:02 AM
Thanks Ustas. Always nice when we start to see more and more info about the style of the new tracks!!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on July 01, 2012, 09:04:36 AM
It's off top and I'm not sure that Mark is on both pictures (from Goodwood Festival May 2012):

(http://photos.classicandperformancecar.com/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_1083/car_photo_541723_25.jpg)

(http://photos.classicandperformancecar.com/images/front_picture_library_UK/dir_1081/car_photo_540598_25.jpg)

Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pottel on July 01, 2012, 03:13:38 PM
The guy with the shades behind the GT40 def. is mark. And the one behind the "f-type"(?) could well be him.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Justme on July 01, 2012, 06:47:01 PM
I'm not so sure about the Jaguar f-type picture. Maybe in some days pictures will follow at f-type.com.

I'm wondering if he actually did drive a car at this Goodwood FOS?!

Anyway, I'm so much looking forward to the new album, but don't want to end the summer too soon. Why can't they change the release date to the 2nd of July?  :D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 01, 2012, 07:09:25 PM
Summer? What Summer? ??? ::) :'( ;)

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on July 01, 2012, 07:19:12 PM
Mmm, I don't really think it's Mark in the F-Type - it doesn't look like his ear and there's too much hair!     ;D  It's MK in the other picture - the folded arms are typical!   ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pottel on July 01, 2012, 07:24:28 PM
could the f-type be PC? just thinkin'..
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Justme on July 01, 2012, 07:31:25 PM
So far, I still have hopes for this summer!

In my honest opinion, the face of PC has become more slim recently. In addition, didn't MK usually attend Goodwood on his own or with GF?!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 01, 2012, 07:32:05 PM
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/06/jaguar-f-type-makes-global-public-debut-at-goodwood.html (http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/06/jaguar-f-type-makes-global-public-debut-at-goodwood.html)

It's most probably Mike Cross, "Jaguar's head of vehicle integrity"...

Or maybe it's David Gilmour...

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: JeroenvG on July 02, 2012, 12:40:00 PM
I Have Got Some Official news from UNIVERSAL Netherlands!:

Redbud Tree, is the first track to be taken from Mark Knopfler
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on July 02, 2012, 12:51:46 PM
Many thanks, Jeroen for the information.    When I saw Ruth Moody at Transatlantic Sessions in January, she reminded me a bit of Gillian Welch. who was on the STP album, so I'm looking forward to hearing "Redbud Tree" very much.  

"Several blues originals" interests me in particular and I feel very excited about this album.   :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 02, 2012, 01:56:10 PM
This is a more detailed text than what I had found - I was just about to add a new line about that all the song were "thoroughly soulful" - a line I found in another German newspaper. But Jeroen had it faster and it is great to see that there will be a single obviously? And not Haul Away or Privateering, but the opening track? What else should be the meaning of "taken from the eighth solo album"?

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: JeroenvG on July 02, 2012, 02:27:27 PM
This is a more detailed text than what I had found - I was just about to add a new line about that all the song were "thoroughly soulful" - a line I found in another German newspaper. But Jeroen had it faster and it is great to see that there will be a single obviously? And not Haul Away or Privateering, but the opening track? What else should be the meaning of "taken from the eighth solo album"?

LE

According to the contact at Universal Redbud Tree will be the first single.  I just copied and paste the press release she gave me.

And Guy Fletcher on bass, will this be the "surprise" he was talking about?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 02, 2012, 08:41:06 PM
After thinking about it for a while I must say that I doubt that we really get a "real" single... I guess we will have some "promo-only" cd to radio and journalists... the same that had happened during the last albums... although it would be nice to have a real single again with some bonus tracks on it...

 :)

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 02, 2012, 08:49:46 PM
And, by the way:

"Several blues originals"?  I wonder about the use of term "original" here. My first impression was that he has covered some Blues originals. But I guess it has another, different meaning? Which songs of Mark's catalogue would you call "blues original"? Marbletown? Southbound Again?

LE
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Post by: superval99 on July 02, 2012, 09:14:00 PM
And, by the way:

"Several blues originals"?   Which songs of Mark's catalogue would you call "blues original"? Marbletown? Southbound Again?

LE

"I Think I Love You Too Much"     "You Don't Know You're Born"     "Fare Thee Well Northumberland"    ??
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Tally on July 02, 2012, 10:46:43 PM
And, by the way:

"Several blues originals"?   Which songs of Mark's catalogue would you call "blues original"? Marbletown? Southbound Again?

LE

"I Think I Love You Too Much"     "You Don't Know You're Born"     "Fare Thee Well Northumberland"    ??

Sonny Liston, Junkie Doll, etc. One of the few straight blues songs he's done is Can't Beat the House. Mark often writes bluesy songs, which I like a lot - Calling Elvis and so forth.  :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 02, 2012, 10:59:55 PM
Thanks all, it was more about the term "original" - seems to be another one of these language things... None of the songs you and Val listened (maybe as you said apart from "You Cant Beat The House) is an "original" blues track. Mark has never done a really clear and simple original version of anything. It is all mixed up, a melange of everything and so on and so forth. So I just wondered what exactly was meant by the term "original". Just take the first few Dylan albums - it seems Bob did use a lot of blues standards for his first songs. Marbletown seems to be the only MK track that is really "original".

It is all very promising, nevertheless!

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Tally on July 03, 2012, 10:42:37 AM
Original used in this context would simply mean a blues written by Mark, rather than a cover. This is my interpretation, anyway, but it seems reasonable since covers are common in blues.

Marbletown, by the way, has some similarites to Dylan's Hollis Brown song, at least the riff (at double speed!). Like so many of Mark's songs, it is bluesy but not a straight blues.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 03, 2012, 12:04:16 PM
Hey Tally, thanks, superb answer, exactly what I was looking for! Great!  :D

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: twm on July 03, 2012, 12:18:40 PM
Gee, I never thought of "Marbletown" being derived, even in part, from "Hollis Brown".

But then Dylan has done the same sort of thing.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Tally on July 03, 2012, 12:26:41 PM
Hey Tally, thanks, superb answer, exactly what I was looking for! Great!  :D

LE

You're most welcome  :)

I hope there will be some blues on the album. I'm a bit worried that tunes may still be left off.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on July 03, 2012, 12:47:51 PM
'Fade to black'  8)

Love that one!

Cheers BBB
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 03, 2012, 12:58:54 PM
Think I Love You Too Much.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pottel on July 03, 2012, 02:15:12 PM
fade to black...aaah...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: tunnel85 on July 03, 2012, 03:17:10 PM
Fade to black...
Black like the coffee you need when you listen to that song.
 i hope those days are gone
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 03, 2012, 04:03:02 PM
I think it's a great song with a lot of subtle energy in it - it's really "hot" - listen to it again if you haven't done so. I wish he would make some more songs with that energy in it on his recent work.

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on July 03, 2012, 06:49:39 PM
Release dates are announced by Universal Music:

31.08.2012 Germany, Austria, Switzerland;
03.09.2012 UK, Denmark;
04.09.2012 Spain.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on July 03, 2012, 06:58:16 PM
Okay, so it's up to our German and Swiss friends to give us very extensive reviews of every song now since you lot get it first!  Promise? ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 03, 2012, 07:26:41 PM
I will try and deliever the best I can! But I really think that we all will be able to listen to the album long before August 31st... Not that I have any signs but that's the way it goes. It would be a real bad sign for MK if his new album did not leak...

But in a perfect world, it will be a pleasure for me to report my first impressions! It's all your fault, don't forget!!  ;D

Last time, early descriptions and impressions about Get Lucky were very great and nicely done by our member TommyJ88. Haven't heard from him ever since which is a pity.   :'(  He nailed the Get Lucky tracks the same as I thought about it (was that right..guess not....  ::) )

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: tunnel85 on July 03, 2012, 09:49:55 PM
Okay, so it's up to our German and Swiss friends to give us very extensive reviews of every song now since you lot get it first!  Promise? ;)
Will try  ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pottel on July 03, 2012, 10:45:32 PM
will try too....
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 04, 2012, 09:37:15 AM
Okay, so it's up to our German and Swiss friends to give us very extensive reviews of every song now since you lot get it first!  Promise? ;)

I rather have, if the album is not leaked, some nice 20 mp3's to listen the whole record on August 31st. There is no harm in that as we are going to buy the album anyway, but cant wait three or four days more. Its not fair that we are in the market strategies hands and we have to wait four days...  :-\

This time I have the feeling that the album is not gonna be leaked soon, or at all, after the great mess the Canadian people from the official site committe  ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: tunnel85 on July 04, 2012, 11:42:14 AM
Okay, so it's up to our German and Swiss friends to give us very extensive reviews of every song now since you lot get it first!  Promise? ;)

I rather have, if the album is not leaked, some nice 20 mp3's to listen the whole record on August 31st. There is no harm in that as we are going to buy the album anyway, but cant wait three or four days more. Its not fair that we are in the market strategies hands and we have to wait four days...  :-\

This time I have the feeling that the album is not gonna be leaked soon, or at all, after the great mess the Canadian people from the official site committe  ;D
I believe you have friends all over Europe  ::)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 04, 2012, 11:44:06 AM
Okay, so it's up to our German and Swiss friends to give us very extensive reviews of every song now since you lot get it first!  Promise? ;)

I rather have, if the album is not leaked, some nice 20 mp3's to listen the whole record on August 31st. There is no harm in that as we are going to buy the album anyway, but cant wait three or four days more. Its not fair that we are in the market strategies hands and we have to wait four days...  :-\

This time I have the feeling that the album is not gonna be leaked soon, or at all, after the great mess the Canadian people from the official site committe  ;D
I believe you have friends all over Europe  ::)

I hope so  ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 04, 2012, 12:17:43 PM
Some "torrent" sites are already listing Privateering to download...

Apparently fakes as it asks for a password. Interesting that at least there are this references... I hope it means the leak is coming  ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: border_reiver on July 04, 2012, 01:41:12 PM
C'mon!

How can you release an album called Privateering and not expect some piracy...

 ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 04, 2012, 02:18:12 PM
C'mon!

How can you release an album called Privateering and not expect some piracy...

 ;D

LOL

This periods of time between the announcement and the release always kills me...

Glory leaks  ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: holaknopfler on July 04, 2012, 02:58:03 PM
It will also be released in Holland at 31 august: http://www.bol.com/nl/p/privateering/1000004012365933/#product_overview
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 04, 2012, 09:02:36 PM
I'm sure there will be a leak,  it happens as soon as the review copies go out.

Last time the full quality mp3 was out only a couple of days after th mk. Com debacle.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 04, 2012, 09:30:16 PM
I'm sure there will be a leak,  it happens as soon as the review copies go out.

Last time the full quality mp3 was out only a couple of days after th mk. Com debacle.

I loved the Canadians that day.

 ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 05, 2012, 09:47:23 AM
I'm sure there will be a leak,  it happens as soon as the review copies go out.

Last time the full quality mp3 was out only a couple of days after th mk. Com debacle.

Yes,  they are good at boasting that they have more registered members than AMIT,  not so good atnot leaking the new album!

I loved the Canadians that day.

 ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 05, 2012, 10:23:00 AM
I'm sure there will be a leak,  it happens as soon as the review copies go out.

Last time the full quality mp3 was out only a couple of days after th mk. Com debacle.



I loved the Canadians that day.

 ;)
Yes,  they are good at boasting that they have more registered members than AMIT,  not so good atnot leaking the new album!

That forum is very unfriendly, I cant stand trying to find anything between the threads, its boring, and its not nice...

This is home for me.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 05, 2012, 10:29:46 AM
Yeah, because there's AMI in AMIT (like the French have it...)   :lol

I once tried to get a ticket there last year and I had some friendly and helpful posts immediately in my mailbox. There are also a lot of people from the early forums and US, so I cannot agree that it is unfriendly - but have not been long enough there to verify...

Btw, I always wanted to know: Is Markknopfler.com also moderated (heavily?) by TK?

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on July 05, 2012, 10:33:41 AM
I'm sure there will be a leak,  it happens as soon as the review copies go out.

Last time the full quality mp3 was out only a couple of days after th mk. Com debacle.



I loved the Canadians that day.

 ;)
Yes,  they are good at boasting that they have more registered members than AMIT,  not so good atnot leaking the new album!

That forum is very unfriendly, I cant stand trying to find anything between the threads, its boring, and its not nice...

This is home for me.

Most of the 50,000+ members there have joined for the tickets - only a handful actually post.   I post there myself occasionally and I know that there are some really nice, friendly people.   I do think, though, that in comparison, AMIT is the most well-informed and active forum.   I love being here!   ;)   
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 05, 2012, 12:22:16 PM
Most of the 50,000+ members there have joined for the tickets - only a handful actually post.   I post there myself occasionally and I know that there are some really nice, friendly people.   I do think, though, that in comparison, AMIT is the most well-informed and active forum.   I love being here!   ;)   

The well-informed is the main point for most of the fans. The official sources are great for official news, but in these days the information is out there long before its approved to be "official" and we ended up knowing about the track list, about the cover, about the news, about everything before the official sources says anything... and we wait and wait and wait for things we already know.

Its like the today affair with the single. Redbud Tree is being aired in some countries, in Spain will be aired next monday. Is that dammned difficult to put the song in the official site so the fans avoid the search between the Norwegian and Croatian radios online?

They are living in the past, while we live in the present, and we are doing it quite well with the circunstances, dont we?

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 05, 2012, 12:29:28 PM
I think TK is doing the best he can but for what I know he has a job to do and is running the MKNews site (including the connection to the management) on his very own (costs and everything.)

So the question is more: What the hell is PC doing these days? And: Would it not be better to ask another (fan) to run an "official fan site" if the one who is in charge has not enough time and energy to be fast and well informed and updated enough to please us?

It is really ridiculous as you say, that radio stations in Europe (have) play(ed) the song already and there is still no information about this first (promo) release. I know, we are all get-a-lifers, and Mark and Guy and Paul C. are not. So that is maybe where the truth lies....

LE
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Post by: jbaent on July 05, 2012, 12:38:58 PM
I
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 05, 2012, 12:40:57 PM
Nicely written. Let's see what you get in return...  :)

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 05, 2012, 12:45:28 PM
Nicely written. Let's see what you get in return...  :)

LE

In a desert? Nothing besides sand.

 ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on July 05, 2012, 12:52:46 PM
I've replied!    ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 05, 2012, 01:03:39 PM
I've replied!    ;D

Thank you!  ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 05, 2012, 03:05:33 PM
I posted, too! C'mon, let's enter that forum!  ;D  (just joking!)   

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 06, 2012, 09:53:39 AM
I posted, too! C'mon, let's enter that forum!  ;D  (just joking!)   

LE

If you are patience enough, you can hear the wind whisteling there...

Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pottel on July 06, 2012, 01:49:11 PM
this morning, around 6am mk's facebook page posted the info on the deluxe edition and redbud being aired. still too slow ,and with hardly any real info.
i fully agree, i mean, in this age of twitter, FB,pinterest and the whole www, there is NO excuse. PAUL CROCKFORD, if you read this, get this thing going man!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on July 06, 2012, 07:01:24 PM
this morning, around 6am mk's facebook page posted the info on the deluxe edition and redbud being aired. still too slow ,and with hardly any real info.
i fully agree, i mean, in this age of twitter, FB,pinterest and the whole www, there is NO excuse. PAUL CROCKFORD, if you read this, get this thing going man!

there is nothing at official MK FB page.

Universal Denmark announces an "interview" with Mark on 09 and 20 July:
http://www.universal.dk/nyheder/mark-knopfler-%E2%80%93-privateering-album-ude-3-september-2012
Der er mulighed for udvalgte interviews med Mark Knopfler p
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: border_reiver on July 07, 2012, 01:49:37 AM
this morning, around 6am mk's facebook page posted the info on the deluxe edition and redbud being aired. still too slow ,and with hardly any real info.
i fully agree, i mean, in this age of twitter, FB,pinterest and the whole www, there is NO excuse. PAUL CROCKFORD, if you read this, get this thing going man!

there is nothing at official MK FB page.

Universal Denmark announces an "interview" with Mark on 09 and 20 July:
http://www.universal.dk/nyheder/mark-knopfler-%E2%80%93-privateering-album-ude-3-september-2012
Der er mulighed for udvalgte interviews med Mark Knopfler p
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Fletch on July 07, 2012, 03:00:19 AM
About time we had a new "Privateering" section on AMIT? Instead of cluttering MK general???
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 07, 2012, 08:46:33 AM
About time we had a new "Privateering" section on AMIT? Instead of cluttering MK general???

Yes, but moving all the threads talking about it and his songs, limited editions etc...

Good idea.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 07, 2012, 08:48:39 AM
Now that (some of us) know Redbud Tree...

Dont you think that the mood created by the two first songs is a little bit "grey"?

After Redbud Tree you have Haul Away, and none of them looks like happy songs, songs that would make you feel in a great mood, but with your heart in your hand...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Justme on July 07, 2012, 10:46:15 AM

If my second language is not off its course it translates into:

"There's an opportunity for selected (persons) to interview Mark Knopfler on Monday the 9th of July and Friday on the 20th of July. Please declare you interest as soon as possible if you are interested."

My guess is that the record company in each country is handed a window of opportunity for journalists and such to make telephone interviews with Mark by calling a linked number.

Hej border reiver! Hello Universal, I'd like to declare that I'd like to take the opportunity!  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: JeroenvG on July 08, 2012, 11:14:14 PM
You have to GO to London for the interview. Just read a tweet from Leo Blokhuis that he is going to London July 9th to interview Mark.
Also he tweeted that he listened to the album via plaympe the streaming music site universal is using to let people listen to new music pre release.
That's normally the same way new music will be available illegal online.

I am not hoping for it but we will see.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 08, 2012, 11:32:16 PM
Hey, thanks! I read his latest tweet answering your question.. He doesn't seem to be a very big fan  ;).

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 09, 2012, 11:34:21 AM
You have to GO to London for the interview. Just read a tweet from Leo Blokhuis that he is going to London July 9th to interview Mark.
Also he tweeted that he listened to the album via plaympe the streaming music site universal is using to let people listen to new music pre release.
That's normally the same way new music will be available illegal online.

I am not hoping for it but we will see.

Thats interesting to me... Anyone could... you know...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Vesper on July 09, 2012, 01:38:04 PM
Does anyone know where we can read/see/follow the interview?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: JeroenvG on July 09, 2012, 01:56:25 PM
Does anyone know where we can read/see/follow the interview?
This will be available in muziek.nl the magazine. Will be in the next issue.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 09, 2012, 09:36:17 PM
Guy said in his forum that the 5 bonus live tracks on the 3CD set have been recorded "during the rehearsal period". I am not sure what to think of it. Why would one use rehearsal tracks when all the forthcoming shows have been recorded?

Amazon Germany has the "deluxe CD and bonus CD" listed for 36,70
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 09, 2012, 09:38:35 PM
Guy said in his forum that the 5 bonus live tracks on the 3CD set have been recorded "during the rehearsal period". I am not sure what to think of it. Why would one use rehearsal tracks when all the forthcoming shows have been recorded?

Amazon Germany has the "deluxe CD and bonus CD listed for 36,70
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 09, 2012, 10:17:48 PM
Salvador Lavado has a new MK related twit, too:

To my Knopfler Pfollowers, I should be completing the album art the week!

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 09, 2012, 10:21:06 PM
Salvador Lavado has a new MK related twit, too:

To my Knopfler Pfollowers, I should be completing the album art the week!

LE

I hope he had finish the mini vans and the doggies for the box  ;D

Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Justme on July 10, 2012, 08:11:57 PM
http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/06/jaguar-f-type-makes-global-public-debut-at-goodwood.html (http://www.autoguide.com/auto-news/2012/06/jaguar-f-type-makes-global-public-debut-at-goodwood.html)

It's most probably Mike Cross, "Jaguar's head of vehicle integrity"...

Or maybe it's David Gilmour...

LE

Yes, it's Mike Cross the chief engineer at Jaguaaaaaaaaaar.
 ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 12, 2012, 03:30:19 PM
Message missing  ;D

No signs of the boxset at amazon.de, just the standard, 3cd and vinyl versions.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 12, 2012, 03:34:46 PM
Yeah, I changed my mind!  ;D  I will not order before I know if the SUPER deluxe edition exists and contains at least the same live CD than the other limited deluxe edition. It would be crap to have to buy both if you want it all but I fear they will come up with something stupid like that.

So: Will this 5-track-live-rehearsal-CD be part of a future SUPER deluxe box, jbaent? I said something about the content, have to research that post...

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 12, 2012, 03:37:06 PM
As far as i know, the box has ALL.

IE, the 3cd, vinyls, dvd, etc
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 12, 2012, 03:41:01 PM
Thanks  :D

LE

I want my
I want my
I want my Super Deluxe Boxset!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on July 12, 2012, 07:23:43 PM
2CD album; 2LP vinyl; Bonus CD; DVD EPK; Numbered art print; Card with exclusive code for customer to download a full concert.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: holaknopfler on July 12, 2012, 07:26:57 PM
That sounds great=D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 12, 2012, 07:31:35 PM
Thanks ustas! I will go for that one, then. Hope it will be announced in Germany, soon!

I wonder what exactly will be on the EPK. This time there was no filming at British Grove it seems. Might be a short one this time. (I loved the Shangri-La EPK, but found the KTGC one dull and uninspired.)
And I wonder where's the rub with this complete download? Do you all really believe that it will be manageable, easy and work without any unprofessional conditions?  ;)

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Tally on July 12, 2012, 08:08:30 PM
Rather odd that they make the most interesting thing included a download. A full concert sounds great of course. It's probably Mark's set from the Dylan tour.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on July 12, 2012, 08:11:19 PM
This time there was no filming at British Grove it seems.

Who knows? I'm surprised that Universla Music in all countries used old press photos (from 2009) to announce Privateering. If I remember - Guy said that there was a new photo session for Privateering promo  "with me, Mark and a lot of guitars". Why UM did not used it yet?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: holaknopfler on July 12, 2012, 08:13:56 PM
Maybe they wait for MK official site when they change the lay out to the Privateering theme. If they do that.. Haha!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 12, 2012, 08:24:57 PM
2CD album; 2LP vinyl; Bonus CD; DVD EPK; Numbered art print; Card with exclusive code for customer to download a full concert.

This "download a full concert" makes me think if it will be "A" concert, or several concerts and you could choose one...

If its only one concert, its clear. If you can choose between some concerts... we should have to agree and download different ones, dont you think?  ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ingridswing on July 12, 2012, 09:04:51 PM
Agree JBaent

But in the Netherlands there's no boxset to pre-order yet  >:(
Only the 2 LP and 2 CD version and also something called deluxe which contains ..... 2 CD's   ??? ???
Must be this stupid online shop we have. And my local shop closed a month ago  :'(
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: naif on July 12, 2012, 09:09:43 PM
Thanks ustas! I will go for that one, then. Hope it will be announced in Germany, soon!

I wonder what exactly will be on the EPK. This time there was no filming at British Grove it seems. Might be a short one this time. (I loved the Shangri-La EPK, but found the KTGC one dull and uninspired.)
And I wonder where's the rub with this complete download? Do you all really believe that it will be manageable, easy and work without any unprofessional conditions?  ;)

LE
Hello.. Do you know where can i watch the Shangri La EPK? I was watched on youtube a few years ago but now i can't find it.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 12, 2012, 09:28:02 PM
Hi, Naif,

I have it because it was a bonus CD with the album in 2004. I am not sure where you can find it elsewhere.

Here are some clips that at least give an impression - although the Summer of Love clip was not part of the epk:

http://musik.plonki.com/musikvideo/3213397,mark-knopfler-summer-of-love (http://musik.plonki.com/musikvideo/3213397,mark-knopfler-summer-of-love)

http://musik.plonki.com/musikvideo/3213375,mark-knopfler-everybody-pays (http://musik.plonki.com/musikvideo/3213375,mark-knopfler-everybody-pays)

Maybe someone of our experts around can help? Btw, the edition with CD and the bonus DVD is still available in, at least in Germany at amazon.de!


LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: naif on July 12, 2012, 09:39:39 PM
Hi, Naif,

I have it because it was a bonus CD with the album in 2004. I am not sure where you can find it elsewhere.

Here are some clips that at least give an impression - although the Summer of Love clip was not part of the epk:

http://musik.plonki.com/musikvideo/3213397,mark-knopfler-summer-of-love (http://musik.plonki.com/musikvideo/3213397,mark-knopfler-summer-of-love)

http://musik.plonki.com/musikvideo/3213375,mark-knopfler-everybody-pays (http://musik.plonki.com/musikvideo/3213375,mark-knopfler-everybody-pays)

Maybe someone of our experts around can help? Btw, the edition with CD and the bonus DVD is still available in, at least in Germany at amazon.de!


LE

Thank you LE. I have shangri la but only album not deluxe version or something and everybody pays what a good song...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ds1984 on July 12, 2012, 09:42:51 PM
I hope that they will release every single show on next tour like they almost did in 2010 for the european leg of GL.
And the download code of the ultra deluxe being a free download of your choice.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Justme on July 12, 2012, 10:20:39 PM
Card with exclusive code for customer to download a full concert.

And that means they are reacting to the moaning of us get-a-lifers! Thanks GF, thanks MK!

 ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: El Macho on July 12, 2012, 11:46:57 PM
What concerts will be downloadable? I hope the ones from the MK & BD tour and not the GL tour !
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ingridswing on July 12, 2012, 11:49:26 PM
I hope NOT the MK and BD tour.
It must be the coming tour I suppose
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 12, 2012, 11:50:44 PM
I hope is one of the concerts where the three new songs were played...

Glasgow second night was one of those. Any other?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Rolleyway Man on July 13, 2012, 12:29:07 AM
They still only have the standard 2CD edition for pre-order on Amazon.co.uk. Aargh! Would dearly love to get my order in for the box set ASAP. Not that it will arrive any faster!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 13, 2012, 05:37:39 PM
I hope NOT the MK and BD tour.
It must be the coming tour I suppose

The coming tour is pretty far from the release date, for me it wont make sense...

They have a large amount of recordings, at least from 2008 to 2011 concerts, they recorded everything. Guy mentioned that the management is very aware about this and that something might happen. The own PCM told me by mail that they were working on this recordings when I asked him about the Passalong and Simfy recordings being not available anymore because both bussiness were closed, so I think that we might expect any concert that already happened.

My dream is that they put EVERYTHING online...

So they will put just one concert from the BD era.

You
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 13, 2012, 09:30:35 PM
Strange that when you search in google "Knopfler privateering" the first result is a torrent where its supposed you can download the 2cd record... that its fake.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: JeroenvG on July 14, 2012, 09:26:12 AM
Strange that when you search in google "Knopfler privateering" the first result is a torrent where its supposed you can download the 2cd record... that its fake.

I always wonder who will download this sort of files! Anybody?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 14, 2012, 09:49:11 AM
Strange that when you search in google "Knopfler privateering" the first result is a torrent where its supposed you can download the 2cd record... that its fake.

I always wonder who will download this sort of files! Anybody?

If its good, its the leak we were waiting for  ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dannyjun on July 14, 2012, 12:42:08 PM
Exactly :D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ds1984 on July 14, 2012, 07:19:52 PM
No leak, no leak, no leak!

(http://www.smiley-lol.com/smiley/humour-blague/langues-grimaces/vil-coucou3.gif)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 14, 2012, 07:33:22 PM
2CD album; 2LP vinyl; Bonus CD; DVD EPK; Numbered art print; Card with exclusive code for customer to download a full concert.

Ustas, from where is this information? I havent read anything in any official source.

It looks like the same someone close to Universal Spain told in Spanish City Mailing List, but there is not any official confirmation nor any shop pre-selling it...

Actually, I
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on July 14, 2012, 08:17:42 PM
nor any shop pre-selling it...
Actually, I
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 14, 2012, 08:21:20 PM
The second link says CD with 3 bonus songs... If this means the rehearsal live tracks, I was thinking that there would be 5? Maybe a mistake. And and art print!

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 14, 2012, 08:46:38 PM
So the prices in Euros will be:

- 82.53 euros (according to the Russia website)
- 87.20 euros (according to the Ukranian website)

More or less what I expected, it will be around 80-90 euros, 100 euros in Spain thanks to the VAT increase approbed by the donke... errr, the spanish government.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on July 14, 2012, 09:09:52 PM
Universal Music Italy:

Mark Knopfler - Redbud Tree (Radio Date: 13-07-2012)

Torna Mark Knopfler con il singolo "Redbud Tree" che anticipa la pubblicazione del suo nuovo album "Privateering" che sar
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on July 14, 2012, 10:33:46 PM
If it says a "full concert" it would be foolish to include a 2011 set because it's only half a gig.  Therefore it may be a concert from 2010;  they may jeopardise potential concert ticket sales when people think the average MK concert lasts about an hour by releasing a 2011 gig! :-\
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: holaknopfler on July 14, 2012, 10:37:12 PM
I don't hope it's one from 2010 when it's a Simfy recording. I would love to have one from the KTGC tour.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 14, 2012, 10:39:33 PM
If it says a "full concert" it would be foolish to include a 2011 set because it's only half a gig.  Therefore it may be a concert from 2010;  they may jeopardise potential concert ticket sales when people think the average MK concert lasts about an hour by releasing a 2011 gig! :-\

Mmmm, wrong, even it was half a gig, if you download all of it, its a "full concert"

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 14, 2012, 10:40:33 PM
I don't hope it's one from 2010 when it's a Simfy recording. I would love to have one from the KTGC tour.

No!!!! Please dont!!!!

I dont even consider that... if its that... it will be a total sh*t!!!! (I mean if its a simfy)

You just ruined my day... really, I never considered the Simfy concerts... If its that... please, please dont :(
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: holaknopfler on July 14, 2012, 10:43:39 PM
My thoughts exactly. The Simfy recordings have a lack of feeling and I prefer a lot of audience recordings above them because they are too much 'straight of soundboard' imho. If the recordings are made by MK crew from 2010, of course then I would really like to have it.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: holaknopfler on July 14, 2012, 10:44:20 PM
Sorry for ruiining your day jbaent:o
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: vgonis on July 14, 2012, 10:46:00 PM
http://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?__mk_de_DE=%C5M%C5Z%D5%D1&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=privateering&x=0&y=0

check this out. 4 editions. And the super deluxe edition is not that expensive!
And anyway, who cares about downloads, when we have loads of torrents with the same concerts.Better sound? I hardly have time to listen to any of them once, let alone twice. Too much good music apart from our man.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 14, 2012, 10:47:39 PM
Sorry for ruiining your day jbaent:o

Not your fault, I was being nahive... but you put me down to earth.  :'(

I wish its any show from 2005 (except Crowfly), from 2008, anything but 2010 (except if its from the US leg), even the 2011 concerts will be fine with me, but Simfy or CRowfly, no... we already have "most of them" already  ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: holaknopfler on July 14, 2012, 10:49:13 PM
I just realised tonight when browsing through my collection! And indeed we already have everything so a special gig or something would be great!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 14, 2012, 10:49:29 PM
http://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?__mk_de_DE=%C5M%C5Z%D5%D1&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=privateering&x=0&y=0

check this out. 4 editions. And the super deluxe edition is not that expensive!
And anyway, who cares about downloads, when we have loads of torrents with the same concerts.Better sound? I hardly have time to listen to any of them once, let alone twice. Too much good music apart from our man.

The fourth one is an import from Japan of the 2cd version, so very very expensive, and quite useless, unless you are a get-a-lifer  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 14, 2012, 10:56:00 PM
Anyone dares to ask the management?

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: holaknopfler on July 14, 2012, 10:57:36 PM
Anyone dares to ask the management?

 ;D ;D ;D

Or Guy;D 'Hey Doc, do you know why the Japan import version is so expensive?' He must get a heart attack if anyone dares to ask him ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: vgonis on July 14, 2012, 10:57:56 PM
Right now I am more of a "don't have a life", so I wish I was a "get a life" because that would mean that I can try and afford to change it. But it is peculiar why the Japanese editions are so expensive. They are 110 million people! Maybe they sell the European editions very expensive over there.  
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 14, 2012, 10:59:54 PM
Anyone dares to ask the management?

 ;D ;D ;D

Or Guy;D 'Hey Doc, do you know why the Japan import version is so expensive?' He must get a heart attack if anyone dares to ask him ;D

DOH!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on July 14, 2012, 11:25:50 PM
http://www.amazon.de/s/ref=nb_sb_noss_1?__mk_de_DE=%C5M%C5Z%D5%D1&url=search-alias%3Daps&field-keywords=privateering&x=0&y=0

check this out. 4 editions. And the super deluxe edition is not that expensive!
And anyway, who cares about downloads, when we have loads of torrents with the same concerts.Better sound? I hardly have time to listen to any of them once, let alone twice. Too much good music apart from our man.

17,99 EUR 2CD standard
28,99 EUR 2LP standard
28,99 EUR 3CD deluxe
57,99 EUR The 4th edition is not the deluxe or super deluxe. It's just SHM-CD import from Japan (Universal Music Japan)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: vgonis on July 14, 2012, 11:29:24 PM
Yes I know! I meant the 3CD edition. The boxed edition is still nowhere to be seen.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 14, 2012, 11:29:48 PM
We might get lucky with the download  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on July 14, 2012, 11:54:39 PM
The boxed edition is still nowhere to be seen.

Please check the previous page  :P
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 14, 2012, 11:57:29 PM
The boxed edition is still nowhere to be seen.

Please check the previous page  :P

And my answer:

So the prices in Euros will be:

- 82.53 euros (according to the Russia website)
- 87.20 euros (according to the Ukranian website)

More or less what I expected, it will be around 80-90 euros, 100 euros in Spain thanks to the VAT increase approbed by the donke... errr, the spanish government.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: vgonis on July 15, 2012, 12:16:47 AM
Yes, thank you both, I have read all these and I am willing to believe since they come from a reliable source. But still it is very peculiar if not suspicious that the sites that actually announce it come from the former iron curtain. How and why? But I am really not that curious, just making conversation. The time will come and the it is less than 48 days.  ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 15, 2012, 12:24:43 AM
Yes, thank you both, I have read all these and I am willing to believe since they come from a reliable source. But still it is very peculiar if not suspicious that the sites that actually announce it come from the former iron curtain. How and why? But I am really not that curious, just making conversation. The time will come and the it is less than 48 days.  ;)

Its easy, we are suffering the warm weather and the information flows better with the mild weather behind the iron curtain  ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: vgonis on July 15, 2012, 12:55:06 AM
jbaent, just saw your location info. You feel it too, I see. If it doesn't stop soon it is going to take a revolution to restore things. It is a war, with different means. I wonder if MK will make any move like the one he did for Syria (of course there it is far worst, but not much different. I heard Poutin has sent troops down there. Things will happen in the near future, and it might get more bloody) 
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on July 15, 2012, 12:32:06 PM
it come from the former iron curtain. How and why?

Is Athens is a capital of Jupiter? Do you know what happens on the Earth?

I heard Poutin has sent troops down there. Things will happen in the near future, and it might get more bloody) 

I'm disappointed that Putin does not send troops to Greece.  We would have had less stupid posts here.

Now seriously, not kidding, it's not right place for any political discussion. 
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 15, 2012, 12:47:16 PM
Kids, behave...  :o
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: vgonis on July 15, 2012, 12:54:44 PM
it come from the former iron curtain. How and why?

Is Athens is a capital of Jupiter? Do you know what happens on the Earth?

I heard Poutin has sent troops down there. Things will happen in the near future, and it might get more bloody)  

I'm disappointed that Putin does not send troops to Greece.  We would have had less stupid posts here.

Now seriously, not kidding, it's not right place for any political discussion.  


 ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ??? ???

But seriously, if every move we make has a political meaning as well, at least we should try not to add insult because we disagree.  And I don't wish to disturb the peaceful discussion about the new MK album, it was in brackets and the post merely to comment on jbaent's location. It would have stopped there if it wasn't for the new comments. Now here you have another irrelevant post. Thanks for making it clear that soldiers can be send even without physical presence. End of story.
 
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: holaknopfler on July 15, 2012, 01:41:12 PM
This is a MK thread.. Not a political. I can talk about politics for ages but please not here. I don't want to read all those discussions when I'm looking for MK news. Thankyou. No offence intended
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on July 15, 2012, 01:53:55 PM
This is a MK thread.. Not a political. I can talk about politics for ages but please not here. I don't want to read all those discussions when I'm looking for MK news. Thankyou. No offence intended

Yes, I agree.  No religion or politics at the dining table - or here!   :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 15, 2012, 02:03:25 PM
This is a MK thread.. Not a political. I can talk about politics for ages but please not here. I don't want to read all those discussions when I'm looking for MK news. Thankyou. No offence intended

Thats why the only political reference I will make its in my location info...

This is Knopfler land, the best country in the world, so Ustas and Vgonis, shake hands and whistle Redbud Tree together  :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on July 15, 2012, 02:33:11 PM
As it was discussed above Universal Music Japan will release the local version of Privateering on SHM-CD (cat. nbr. UICR-1098) on 5th September. It looks like strange because since 1996 UM never released MK albums specially for the Japan market. Generally, the local Japan releases have bonus tracks. It's done in order to stimulate the buyers in Japan to prefer the local releases instead of a cheaper import from US and Europe.  

Referring to Ian's interview (45 tracks recorded) and Guy's message (25 or for about it finished) I affraid that Universal and Warner have a good possibillity to mix or to change the track list for the each region like Sailing To Philadelphia or Private Investigation. The Noth American release is not announced by Warner Bros yet.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 15, 2012, 02:38:44 PM
Well, not that things are quite complicated enough, with all these super deluxe stuff, isn't it?  :lol

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 15, 2012, 04:22:25 PM
As it was discussed above Universal Music Japan will release the local version of Privateering on SHM-CD (cat. nbr. UICR-1098) on 5th September. It looks like strange because since 1996 UM never released MK albums specially for the Japan market. Generally, the local Japan releases have bonus tracks. It's done in order to stimulate the buyers in Japan to prefer the local releases instead of a cheaper import from US and Europe.  

What I dont understand is why local releases are expensive in Japan... Nosense

Referring to Ian's interview (45 tracks recorded) and Guy's message (25 or for about it finished) I affraid that Universal and Warner have a good possibillity to mix or to change the track list for the each region like Sailing To Philadelphia or Private Investigation. The Noth American release is not announced by Warner Bros yet.

I dont expect anything special from the warner release, you never know, but it looks like the record has plenty of US related stuff.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 15, 2012, 04:24:45 PM
Well, not that things are quite complicated enough, with all these super deluxe stuff, isn't it?  :lol

LE

It
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ustas on July 15, 2012, 04:35:11 PM
If any of you bought that SMH or whatever Japanese releases, are playable with any cd player or you really need a SACD player?

If you question links to Japan version of Privateering - it's SHM-CD, not SHM-SACD. You do not need the SACD player.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 15, 2012, 04:41:55 PM
If any of you bought that SMH or whatever Japanese releases, are playable with any cd player or you really need a SACD player?

If you question links to Japan version of Privateering - it's SHM-CD, not SHM-SACD. You do not need the SACD player.

Yes, I meant that. I was yhinking more about the re-release of Cal, if it contains Comfort and Joy songs as well.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ds1984 on July 15, 2012, 06:51:55 PM
As it was discussed above Universal Music Japan will release the local version of Privateering on SHM-CD (cat. nbr. UICR-1098) on 5th September. It looks like strange because since 1996 UM never released MK albums specially for the Japan market. Generally, the local Japan releases have bonus tracks. It's done in order to stimulate the buyers in Japan to prefer the local releases instead of a cheaper import from US and Europe.  

What I dont understand is why local releases are expensive in Japan... Nosense


Same sense that level/cost of life differs from one country to another. Japan is(were) strong to export their products (using dumping methods) but their local goods market is very high priced compared to other regions of the world. You have also to take in account the currency factor, you are not paid in Yen.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dustyvalentino on July 15, 2012, 11:56:03 PM
The reason for the extra UK tracks on STP was to try to stop people buying from cheap online Hong Kong based retailers like CD Wow. Now that nobody buys Cds it doesn't matter. :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 16, 2012, 12:00:31 AM
The reason for the extra UK tracks on STP was to try to stop people buying from cheap online Hong Kong based retailers like CD Wow. Now that nobody buys Cds it doesn't matter. :)

Its true, now we buy boxes  ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pottel on July 20, 2012, 04:01:52 PM
geniuses think alike.
This 4-night experience includes:
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on July 20, 2012, 06:40:03 PM
"Welcome grocery upon arrival?"  Isn't that just a welcome mint on the pillow! :lol
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Justme on July 20, 2012, 10:11:09 PM
And what does that mean?
"Daily cleaning of maximum 3 hours."

--> Do the guests have to work in the kitchen, washing dishes?

Joking aside, Italy is one of the most beautiful countries with the very best food [Jeremy Clarkson voice] ...in the world!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Leprechaun on July 21, 2012, 08:51:47 AM
For me RT does not reach the high level MK set with many many compositions. Positive thing ist the nice clear sounding lead guitar. Otherwise RT ist a bit lame, the chorus very weak and too repetitive. Maybe the album this time starts with low tempo, then becomes mid and high before at the end of cd 1 we have again lame tracks.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Darling Pretty on July 21, 2012, 10:09:01 AM
Mark currently on holiday in Italy

http://www.ansa.it/web/notizie/regioni/toscana/2012/07/19/vacanza-Montalcino-Mark-Knopfler_7209203.html

Google Translation:
Holidays in Montalcino for Mark Knopfler after the land of Brunello were chosen as a goal by Paul McCartney in June on the occasion of his seventieth birthday. The founder and guitarist of Dire Straits, according to reports from Montalcinonews, chose the countryside of Montalcino for a little 'relaxation, guests of the resort Castiglione Del Bosco, where he also stayed the former Beatles.



Cool. Nice choice Mark.

Does anyone know where he was before?
Someone told me: Greece, South Africa, Barbados have been on his list. Also very beautiful.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Darling Pretty on July 21, 2012, 10:11:53 AM
For me RT does not reach the high level MK set with many many compositions. Positive thing ist the nice clear sounding lead guitar. Otherwise RT ist a bit lame, the chorus very weak and too repetitive. Maybe the album this time starts with low tempo, then becomes mid and high before at the end of cd 1 we have again lame tracks.

Jepp. Think so too. It is a nice but weak opener.
The rest must be stronger.
After 5 times of listening I got enough.
I like the acoustic guitar. The clean strat sound is also O.K. but not mind-blowing.
Anyway. We got weaker openers with TLWNF. That was nothing
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: henk1951 on July 21, 2012, 01:49:46 PM
This time MK News published all the lyrics for Privateering.......
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 21, 2012, 02:26:04 PM
This time MK News published all the lyrics for Privateering.......

the strangest thing ever...

I mean, we still dont know about all the formats and their contents in an official way, but we have the official lyrics even before to have the record.

Its quite curious to read the lyrics like poems... Most of the songs have a "kind-of-donegans-gone" style :-D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 21, 2012, 07:25:44 PM
I would say most of the lyrics reminded me immediately of the Shangri-La ones. A lot of stuff sounds like drinking songs like Stand Up Guy, some have a Back To Tupelo Style. A lot of them sound very interesting. Many new vocabulary to learn in front of me!

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Tally on July 21, 2012, 07:35:38 PM
A surprising move indeed. I have no interest in reading them before I hear the songs.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 24, 2012, 10:50:23 PM
The more Guy denies to tell us the track lengths (as once more today), the more I am sure that there will be a lot of very short songs on the album. Also two vinyl albums don't offer too much space for some long songs... I would bet on a lot of 3 minute tracks...

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ds1984 on July 25, 2012, 05:47:19 PM
The more Guy denies to tell us the track lengths (as once more today), the more I am sure that there will be a lot of very short songs on the album. Also two vinyl albums don't offer too much space for some long songs... I would bet on a lot of 3 minute tracks...

LE

Right, if CDs were full or at least long enough it would have turned to a 3 LPs edition.
But they may also lower the recording level on the LPs to make them longer capacity.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on July 25, 2012, 06:02:24 PM
We have a double album of 20 new songs to look forward to and from what I see of the lyrics, some of them have quite a lot of verses, so at least some of them must be a decent length!   Also some songs may look short in length, but these may be the ones with the longer guitar solos.

I am just ecstatic that we are having so much new material to enjoy very soon!   My cup isn't just half-full -  it is positively overflowing!   :D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on July 25, 2012, 06:47:29 PM
We have a double album of 20 new songs to look forward to and from what I see of the lyrics, some of them have quite a lot of verses, so at least some of them must be a decent length!   Also some songs may look short in length, but these may be the ones with the longer guitar solos.

I am just ecstatic that we are having so much new material to enjoy very soon!   My cup isn't just half-full -  it is positively overflowing!   :D

Thanks SV, I was starting to get quite concerned about this whole issue.  My mind is now at ease. ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on July 25, 2012, 06:51:12 PM
We have a double album of 20 new songs to look forward to and from what I see of the lyrics, some of them have quite a lot of verses, so at least some of them must be a decent length!   Also some songs may look short in length, but these may be the ones with the longer guitar solos.

I am just ecstatic that we are having so much new material to enjoy very soon!   My cup isn't just half-full -  it is positively overflowing!   :D

Thanks SV, I was starting to get quite concerned about this whole issue.  My mind is now at ease. ;)

Glad to hear it, dmg!    ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 25, 2012, 06:58:34 PM
It's not a negative/positive thing. Of course I am very happy with the upcoming release and feel like christmas and easter on one week(end) with the sight of a DOUBLE album of MK! It is just: Why on earth is Guy not telling us? Dozens of people have asked (not just me) and apart from the usual a...lickers who always find everything great what the "good" doc says it is ridiculous - it is just a sale information as any other fact. In earlier years they told us before. So I came to the conclusion that Guy wants to avoid some discussion because we will see a lot of 2:30 and 3:15 songs. That's all.  MK started it with Time In The Sun, Redbud Tree is another indicator and I just want to  know what the album length will be. Not very difficult to understand from my point of view.

How many minutes does Dark Knight Rises run (I might have to catch a bus)
How many PS does that car have. (I might have to pull some weight)
How many rooms does that house have. (I might get a lot more children)
How many miles can I go with that ticket. (I might want to go as deep into the south as possible)
How many minutes will that album play. (I might want to know because I spend a lot of money on the deluxe box)

Ooooh, it's ART, I see... ok, then forget my question...   :disbelief
 
LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on July 25, 2012, 07:09:52 PM
LE - Believe me, I would LOVE to spend some money on the super deluxe box set, or even the 3cd box set, but at the moment neither are available anywhere in the UK, so I can't do anything at the moment about ordering - that is my concern.   

The length of the songs is immaterial to me, because MK's songs are always a pleasure, whether long or short.  In any case, we already know that Privateering, Corned Beef City and Haul Away are a reasonable length and, certainly, there are some more with longish verses - but this is something that I am not going to lose sleep over - there are more important things in life!  ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on July 25, 2012, 07:40:13 PM
Guy is always tight tipped anyway and never releases many details about anything!  I don't mean any disrespect to the man because the fact of the matter is that most of the time he is in a "lose-lose" position whereby he risks getting a ticking off from MK or PC, then if he doesn't release details he gets a ticking off from forumers! ;D  Poor Guy. :'(
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on July 25, 2012, 09:09:09 PM
I just put on my mp3 player, on random and the first song played was "How Long" - spooky or what!    :o   :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Darling Pretty on July 25, 2012, 10:35:19 PM
Super Deluxe edition now on German amazon-EUR 65

Hmmmm    ::)

The album is described as a lyrical one. With a lot of feeling and some blues songs.

Oh man. Maybe we get one rocker?
I hope
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on July 25, 2012, 11:59:51 PM
Get on to iTunes NOW folks and you can listen to samples of the album!!!

Ruth's on Seattle.

First impression is: "very excited in anticipation of it's release!" :P :P  Yes, two tongues and it takes a lot of excitement for me to give two tongues!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 12:15:49 AM
Can't find it there, how comes? Only UK? How is it? Any immediate favourites?
TELL US!

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: El Macho on July 26, 2012, 12:17:18 AM
On UK store !
I'm listenning now.
Don't forget your hat is a blues track !
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: emilianomk on July 26, 2012, 12:17:48 AM
same problem! can someone record it and put it into a audio file ?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pottel on July 26, 2012, 12:21:15 AM
same problem! can someone record it and put it into a audio file ?
no. Too late now. It is out there Emiliano, no piracy now
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: El Macho on July 26, 2012, 12:22:37 AM
You can listen to the previews even if the UK store isn't your local store.
It's not on the french store.
Miss you blues is a nice blues song too.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING (CONTAINS iTUNE SPOILERS)
Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 12:23:05 AM
So it is gone now? Just a short time? Or am I too stupid to find it?? Have you heard it Pottel?

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Pottel on July 26, 2012, 12:26:04 AM
Nope. In Bed, leaving for "Beaumont-du-perigord tomorrow morning. Holiday!!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: emilianomk on July 26, 2012, 12:26:52 AM
You can listen to the previews even if the UK store isn't your local store.
It's not on the french store.
Miss you blues is a nice blues song too.

how? ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 12:28:07 AM
Nope. In Bed, leaving for "Beaumont-du-perigord tomorrow morning. Holiday!!

Enjoy!  :)

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: El Macho on July 26, 2012, 12:41:50 AM
Hot or what is also a blues song, a bit like You can't leave the house.
Privateering is not so celtic as the live version.
Go Love : nice sweet song, a bit like Stand Up guy
Yon Two Crows : nice, a bit like 5.15 am
Seattle : the one with Ruth Moody, sweet
Kingdom of gold is celtic.
Got to have something : blues, boogie woogie
Radio City Serenade : with Chris Botti, a bit like "The Ragpicker's dream" or "Stand Up Guy"
I Used To could : Blues, with a lot of harmonica, like the other blues tracks
Gator Blood : country , blues
Bluebird : blues
Dream of the drawned submariner : nice sweet song
Blood and water : nice bluesy song
Today is okay : blues with harmonica, boogie woogie
After the beanstalk : blues, boogie woogie

Well : the album with the most blues songs MK ever made !

Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 12:48:32 AM
Listening right now to those iTunes preview snippets, about 1:15 from every song!  :D

SPOILER ALERT!!!! !!!! !!!!     !!!!!                SPOILER ALERT !!!!!!!

Don't forget your hat _ FAT Blues, bottleneck guitar, Elmore James style

Miss You Blues so nice... Bottle neck like Ry Cooder... in fact the whole song could be from Bob Till You Drop  ;)

Corned Beef City: Loud guitar(s),

Go, Love: Solo! Could be from Metroland soundtrack...

Hot Or What - really like Can't beat the house, really very similar, but with harmonica...

Yon Two Crows - seems to have a nice build up in it.

Seattle has  that whammy bar again - his voice is soooo great on all tracks I listened so far...

Gotta have something - EXACTLY that kind of blues everybody is waiting for, Muddy Waters style, GREAT!

I Used To Could - Blues - MK playing so much blues nearly starts to get boring...  ;D

Gator Blood - mid tempo blues... nice... really loud howling bottle neck, spectacular little guitar part!

Bluebird: The harmonica sounds very ... unusual (to me)

Dream of the Drowned Submariner - melancholic, nice! National

Today is Okay: Guess: Blues! El Macho is right, boogie woogie, Jim is doing plinky planky, another son of Can't beat the house, yaaaaawwnnn


All very promising. One skipper is already clear for me...  ::) But a lot of pure MK rhythm guitar playing, lots of bottleneck. Couldn't make the Les Paul -

No rocker, apart from Corned Beef City. Haul Away was not available for some strange reason. The five bonus tracks are also there.

This is definitely a blues record. He has never made an album with such a concrete profile. It is not the usual mixture I was expecting but some "real" and original blues playing. And some really good songs seem to be on it, too! If you don't like the blues you could have problems with this album.

Just imagine:

Go, Love, I am already caught... nice melody! Same guitar (solo) sound as on "Behind With The Rent"... Really nice song!




LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: emilianomk on July 26, 2012, 12:50:23 AM
how can I access to the uk store, I have already a valid acount but no uk
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 12:55:57 AM
search for the album, try to play the preview, it will ask you if you want to change the store.. then try again

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: emilianomk on July 26, 2012, 01:02:08 AM
search for the album, try to play the preview, it will ask you if you want to change the store.. then try again

LE

nope, no results of Privateering on itunes, anyway thanks!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING (CONTAINS SPOILERS!!!)
Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 01:30:17 AM
LE happy! High quality stuff, music to dive down into...

Hope my long post above didn't spoil it for anybody.

Some ear catching tunes in my head now. Go Love, if you're going....

LE

Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: PixelPerfect on July 26, 2012, 05:18:01 AM
How do I access the UK iTunes store if I live in the U.S.? I went into the store I already had downloaded, but it wasn't there.
BTW Love Expresso, what's that skipper you mentioned?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Rkd on July 26, 2012, 05:57:12 AM
Go to the very bottom of the iTunes page. One of the option is Change Country. Just click on it and pick UK.  When it loads, just put in Privateering and up it pops!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING SPOILER (track syles)
Post by: emilianomk on July 26, 2012, 06:12:19 AM
Go to the very bottom of the iTunes page. One of the option is Change Country. Just click on it and pick UK.  When it loads, just put in Privateering and up it pops!

Thanks!!!! omg mark voice its great


my fabs: Kingdom of gold... Go, love and bluebird!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on July 26, 2012, 09:05:10 AM
I've decided to wait for the album release before I listen, but it sounds just what I've been waiting for - a blues album!    :D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING (CONTAINS SPOILERS!!!)
Post by: superval99 on July 26, 2012, 09:09:31 AM
LE happy! High quality stuff, music to dive down into...

Hope my long post above didn't spoil it for anybody.

Some ear catching tunes in my head now. Go Love, if you're going....

LE



I'm so glad you're happy, LE!    :D 
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 09:59:27 AM
Hi, Val,

I am happy that you are glad that I am happy!  :D :D


Hey, Pixel,

after all, it were just snippets, I am not so bold to say that I can really judge the album by them, but they give a nice impression (and 1:30 from  a 3 Min song is a lot   ;D ;D ;D) but I was most unimpressed by "Blood And Water". But that might change.  ;)

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: El Macho on July 26, 2012, 10:04:48 AM
After a second listen, my fav are : Miss You Blues, Go Love and... Redbud Tree !
It's only 1m30 snippets so it's not definitive !
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 10:10:07 AM
Btw, was any of the listeners able to listen to "Haul Away"?

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: El Macho on July 26, 2012, 10:12:55 AM
Btw, was any of the listeners able to listen to "Haul Away"?

LE

yes, it sounds like the live version
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Maxx on July 26, 2012, 10:20:13 AM
Thanks dmg (was it?) for telling us about the previews! This made my day!

Really got a lot of thoughts and feelings now, but I guess that's gotta wait for the release and full songs.

However, Kim Wilson was present quite a lot in this one!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: GennT on July 26, 2012, 10:41:01 AM
Yup definitely a blues album, I think we hoped for this before right guys? I really liked Haul Away, it sounds so good in this studio version. Go, love and Dream of Drowned Submariner are going to be my top favorites from this album, I think, but there are just so many lol. Still it's very early to judge, so it's best to wait until the release. The blues tracks have a lot of harmonica in them as far as I can tell!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 10:42:18 AM
Kingdom of Gold seems to one of the stronger MK songs. It reminds me very much of "The new Laird" - mixed with "Sands Of Nevada" in way...

About Kim Wilson:

I could imagine that there are a lot of people that might not so happy with the fact that there are a lot of classic blues STANDARDS on this album - something that is not typical for MK:

After having listened to these snippets

-Don't Forget Your Hat
-Hot Or What
-Got To Have Something
-I Used To Could
-Gator Blood
-Today Is Okay

I can confirm that Kim Wilson plays heavily on all of them and these are typical blues numbers with the typical twelve bar chord progession, including the standard sub form variations. So people who love the way MK mixes styles and offers a melange of everything, might be disappointed. But it all sounds so great, with a lot of guitar in front (not automatically solos), and almost all of those six listed songs above are so energetic that I really am happy that he finally did it!
Roll on, August, 31st...

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 26, 2012, 10:43:04 AM
I'm on holydays without computer and just my Android phone. I can't access to that previews in any way, I tried everything. Any kind soul could help me by pm to get to listen that samples?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 10:46:21 AM
I would but have no idea how to do it. This seems not to be loadable (for me). Internet cafe next town?

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on July 26, 2012, 10:48:18 AM
I love harmonica, especially when it's played well, as on Guy's Bluesband album, so I'm sure I will be a very happy bunny!   ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 10:50:48 AM
You will, but you are anyway, aren't you? I was listening to the Deluxe version all the time, now I changed to the standard album, and there I was alble to listen to Haul Away. Sooo great.... Sung with even much more feeling and emotion.

This could be his masterpiece.

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: El Macho on July 26, 2012, 11:06:43 AM
Kingdom of Gold seems to one of the stronger MK songs. It reminds me very much of "The new Laird" - mixed with "Sands Of Nevada" in way...

About Kim Wilson:

I could imagine that there are a lot of people that might not so happy with the fact that there are a lot of classic blues STANDARDS on this album - something that is not typical for MK:

After having listened to these snippets

-Don't Forget Your Hat
-Hot Or What
-Got To Have Something
-I Used To Could
-Gator Blood
-Today Is Okay

I can confirm that Kim Wilson plays heavily on all of them and these are typical blues numbers with the typical twelve bar chord progession, including the standard sub form variations. So people who love the way MK mixes styles and offers a melange of everything, might be disappointed. But it all sounds so great, with a lot of guitar in front (not automatically solos), and almost all of those six listed songs above are so energetic that I really am happy that he finally did it!
Roll on, August, 31st...

LE

Miss you blues & Bluebird are also blues tracks but they're slower, and I prefer these two. From what I heard of the 6 songs you mentioned, I notice a proeminence of Kim Wilson harmonica solos, whereas I woud have prefer more guitar solos.
It would be great if he went on tour and so they could play Baloney Again, which is a fantastic song !
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 26, 2012, 11:07:37 AM
A direct link or something? I already push the UK flag but no way to find it
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: El Macho on July 26, 2012, 11:10:43 AM
A direct link or something? I already push the UK flag but no way to find it

Once you're in the uk store, you search privateering and you'll find it.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: holaknopfler on July 26, 2012, 11:15:51 AM
I can't describe in words how good this is :) One of the youngest forum members is in love with Privateering.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 26, 2012, 11:16:22 AM
I'm on an Android phone, so no iTunes store app here, just web browser
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: El Macho on July 26, 2012, 11:27:49 AM
I'm on an Android phone, so no iTunes store app here, just web browser

You'll have to wait till you're on your computer... hope for you it will be soon !
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 11:28:59 AM
Where are you - in the middle of nowhere? Sure enough there must be a city somewhere with some internet access?

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: jbaent on July 26, 2012, 11:36:22 AM
Where are you - in the middle of nowhere? Sure enough there must be a city somewhere with some internet access?

LE

Tell that to my wife  ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: JeroenvG on July 26, 2012, 11:38:28 AM
I'm on an Android phone, so no iTunes store app here, just web browser

You'll have to wait till you're on your computer... hope for you it will be soon !

Can you play m4a files on your mobile? I managed to download the files from iTunes.

Try this! http://www.filefactory.com/file/gaaf1jip9kn/n/02_-_Haul_Away.m4a
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ingridswing on July 26, 2012, 11:50:05 AM
Great! can you put them all on wetransfer or so  :D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on July 26, 2012, 11:55:57 AM
Had another listen this morning and Bluebird sounds fantastic.  There doesn't seem to be any skippers to me and the best thing is the fact the whole album is mostly uptempo.  Only slight criticism is harmonica overkill, but it doesn't spoil it for me at all and I'm sure it won't sound as bad when I hear the full songs.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 12:01:57 PM
Yeah, same here. I thought tracks 1 to 10 are all "favourits" and I just cannot tell which one I like the most - they are all great. Gator Blood is really cool -
and I bet there will be guitar solos in these blues songs - some kind of duet or duel with the harmonica if you like. The expectations were really high this time, and MK did it! It all sounds really fantastic!

Lot of forumers seem to be on a holiday? We are just a handful of people talking about it. Dusty, Goldenheart, bbb, where are thou! Or maybe you don't want to get spoiled? I wrote SPOILER into the subject line last night but it's gone (I thought I could do it as it was "my" thread if you know what I mean)

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: ingridswing on July 26, 2012, 12:08:25 PM
Yeah, same here. I thought tracks 1 to 10 are all "favourits" and I just cannot tell which one I like the most - they are all great. Gator Blood is really cool -
and I bet there will be guitar solos in these blues songs - some kind of duet or duel with the harmonica if you like. The expectations were really high this time, and MK did it! It all sounds really fantastic!

Lot of forumers seem to be on a holiday? We are just a handful of people talking about it. Dusty, Goldenheart, bbb, where are thou! Or maybe you don't want to get spoiled? I wrote SPOILER into the subject line last night but it's gone (I thought I could do it as it was "my" thread if you know what I mean)

LE

Somehow it seemed to have disappeared, don't think one of the mods did it.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on July 26, 2012, 12:22:08 PM
Maybe when he plays them live the harmonica will be replaced by a nice juicy guitar solo.  Or then again the harmonica will probably be yet another string to Guy's bow along with fixing bikes and telling the weather in Mongolia! ::)

To be serious, maybe the harmonica influence was partly due to being on tour with Mr Bob since they went strait to the studio after the tour full of harmonic inspiration... :-\
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: superval99 on July 26, 2012, 12:23:55 PM
Maybe Kim Wilson will join the band on tour - that would be a nice addition!   :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: dmg on July 26, 2012, 12:32:57 PM
Maybe Kim Wilson will join the band on tour - that would be a nice addition!   :)

As a replacement for Mike?  Great idea! ;D

BTW Blood and Water is fab too!  Oh, and Seattle and Today is Okay and...

Of course it may be completely different when we hear the full song!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: El Macho on July 26, 2012, 12:42:57 PM
Yes , maybe a tour without harmonica could be interesting, harmonica parts could be replaced by piano, hammond, guitar....
I always dreamt about a blues album by MK and now the dream comes true !
I also thought that BD could have influenced Mark.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: shangri la 1 on July 26, 2012, 01:24:38 PM
I wrote SPOILER into the subject line last night but it's gone (I thought I could do it as it was "my" thread if you know what I mean)

LE

If you want change the thread title it can be done from the first post in the thread, otherwise it will only appear on the individual posts. Just did it for you LE. Thanks for the post also!!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: naif on July 26, 2012, 02:01:13 PM
I think this is a masterpiece of Mark. Man i'm just smiling and smiling, smiling like a fool  :lol(again) There is a lot of pure blues song and awesome musicianship. Mark's music can change your life really...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING
Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 02:28:11 PM
I wrote SPOILER into the subject line last night but it's gone (I thought I could do it as it was "my" thread if you know what I mean)

LE

If you want change the thread title it can be done from the first post in the thread, otherwise it will only appear on the individual posts. Just did it for you LE. Thanks for the post also!!

Thank you!  :)

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Rkd on July 26, 2012, 03:30:12 PM
"My idea of heaven is a place where the Tyne meets the Delta, where folk music meets the blues."

Well, bless ma grits, I musta just died and gone upstairs!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 03:36:26 PM
the YON TWO CROWS guitar sound is the thing I liked most :)

It has very much a Dire Straits feeling to it, don't you think? It could build up to a real nice solo. So many great songs, wow. His voice is really fantastic, I  repeat myself...
LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: kaleo74 on July 26, 2012, 03:37:26 PM
Hi everybody, been a long time since my last post.
Like french says :"Sacr
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: NicoMK on July 26, 2012, 03:37:49 PM
Much, MUCH different than what he has done until now, from the DS days till Get Lucky.

Probably a good and - as always - well-produced album but blues is not my cup of tea.

I'll definitely pass on this one. For the very first time for a DS / MK album.

Hope you all will like the album. Only positive reviews so far
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: jbaent on July 26, 2012, 04:57:53 PM
Firstly, thanks to JVG, very kind!

I'm amazed... I'd never expected a blues record!

The Botti contribution is great, and Wilson and O'Brien are everywhere...

Also Moody sings a lot.

Far better than I expected, a totally different record from the previous ones.

BRAVO!
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Post by: Vesper on July 26, 2012, 04:58:42 PM
I'm on an Android phone, so no iTunes store app here, just web browser

You'll have to wait till you're on your computer... hope for you it will be soon !

Can you play m4a files on your mobile? I managed to download the files from iTunes.

Try this! http://www.filefactory.com/file/gaaf1jip9kn/n/02_-_Haul_Away.m4a

JeroenvG: How did you manage to download the files?
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Post by: schmonka on July 26, 2012, 05:07:13 PM
It will be hard not to have a little preview listen tonight on Itunes.... ::)
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 05:08:23 PM
Firstly, thanks to JVG, very kind!

I'm amazed... I'd never expected a blues record!

The Botti contribution is great, and Wilson and O'Brien are everywhere...

Also Moody sings a lot.

Far better than I expected, a totally different record from the previous ones.

BRAVO!

Funny how different we are receiving these snippets... I have hardly heard Moodys voice, and the Botti song is also one of the ones I have listened to the fewest - together with After the Beanstalk by the way. What we have in common: Loving it already! He surprised me, too:  It's fresh, uptempo and classic!

LE



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Post by: diddywahdiddy on July 26, 2012, 06:02:28 PM
Much, MUCH different than what he has done until now, from the DS days till Get Lucky.

Probably a good and - as always - well-produced album but blues is not my cup of tea.

I'll definitely pass on this one. For the very first time for a DS / MK album.

Hope you all will like the album. Only positive reviews so far
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 06:28:46 PM
When you take the preview of Privateering only, it just sounds like another acoustic song, (f.e. Marbletown, just Mark and guitar). The snippet doesn't prepare you for what is coming after the chorus  ;). So maybe we really should see these previews as some appetizers, but some very good ones! There are songs that have potential for some real classic tracks. (Yon Two Crows, Go, Love)

LE
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Post by: Best Brown Baggies on July 26, 2012, 06:46:40 PM
I've listened to Redbud tree, and of course the 3 songs from the MK/BD tour, but I'm saving the rest for Sept.
Always a very hard desision, but always worth the wait.
I'm loving reading everyone's views about the snippets.

Cheers. BBB
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Post by: PixelPerfect on July 26, 2012, 06:57:47 PM
Go to the very bottom of the iTunes page. One of the option is Change Country. Just click on it and pick UK.  When it loads, just put in Privateering and up it pops!
Wow, that's easy! Thanks much. I'll check them out now.
 And after reading these (pre)reviews, I'm pretty excited. MK's guitar has always had a bluesy sound, with those string bends and emotional notes, so it's not that big a surprise to me that he chose to make a predominantly blues album. It also makes sense that, as someone already mentioned, Bob's blues setlist last fall probably did help inspire this.
 Heheh. There's no way I can resist, so I'm gonna listen to all of the previews!
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Post by: border_reiver on July 26, 2012, 07:34:01 PM
BEST MK SOLO EVER!!!

edit: finally, finally oh thank god finally there's uptempo, there's plenty of blues, there's folk

It's got everything that defines my taste in music!

I think I died and went to the South  ;D


edit II: Gator Blood reminds me of R.L. Burnside's music, check it out
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Post by: Maxx on July 26, 2012, 08:11:09 PM
BEST MK SOLO EVER!!!

edit: finally, finally oh thank god finally there's uptempo, there's plenty of blues, there's folk

It's got everything that defines my taste in music!

I think I died and went to the South  ;D


edit II: Gator Blood reminds me of R.L. Burnside's music, check it out

This album might as well become a favourite album for me, maybe just second to STP.

Yon Two Crows sound like something from the late DS era, just less 'produced'.
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Post by: border_reiver on July 26, 2012, 08:27:13 PM
Kim Wilson and Tim O'Brien are such sublime additions to this album! They are out of this world.

And this is my face when listening to Corned Beef City, Got To Have Something, I Used To Could and Gator Blood --->  ;D
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 26, 2012, 08:53:19 PM
So nice melodies! Miss You Blues is circulating in my head now the whole afternoon...

Border Reiver, could you name some moments where Tim O'Brien is present?

LE
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Post by: Speedway23 on July 26, 2012, 09:32:18 PM

"Dream of the Drowned Submariner" seems to be a masterpiece. Maybe Privateering's "So Far From THe Clyde"  :D
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Post by: goldenheart96 on July 26, 2012, 09:50:23 PM
Huh, what a nice surprise! So... After having a quick listen through all the snippets I think "Yon Two Crows" is my fav. The blues songs I find boring - but then, that's just a first impression.
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Post by: jerrymb on July 26, 2012, 09:56:44 PM
Huh, what a nice surprise! So... After having a quick listen through all the snippets I think "Yon Two Crows" is my fav. The blues songs I find boring - but then, that's just a first impression.

I find the blues songs boring too. They all sound generic.
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Post by: Vesper on July 26, 2012, 10:04:14 PM
Well,, now 1 week of all the MK stuff :o
Time for a vacation!
Thanks JeroenvG for helping me out with the songs, I can listen them now on my mp3 anytime I want!

See you later (ali)Gator!
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Post by: border_reiver on July 26, 2012, 10:15:16 PM
So nice melodies! Miss You Blues is circulating in my head now the whole afternoon...

Border Reiver, could you name some moments where Tim O'Brien is present?

LE

Gonna take a deeper listen to nail it all but straight off the top of my head = After The Beanstalk, the mandolin part.
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Post by: tobi777 on July 26, 2012, 10:33:59 PM
I couldn't resist and had a good listen to the snippets on iTunes. You all are going to hate me - but I'm deeply disappointed with the previews.  :disbelief

Of course, these are only snippets - but in one minute you can get a fairly good picture (after all it's nearly one third of the whole song in some cases, I guess... ;)). Too many similarities, not one single song that caught my interest. These "blues" songs all sound the same, like the 100th rehash of "You Can't Beat The House" - even the bass parts are similar. What happened to the melodies MK was cabable of wiriting? And of course the lyrics? And the guitar playing?

I'm no DS fan and think "Get Lucky" was Mark's best album for ages but this album really puts me off. Can't believe it is a double album because they obviously couldn't decide which of these songs to leave off. I couldn't have either, because they all sound too similar :P And if Mark wants Ian Thomas because he is said to be such a great drummer, why don't he let him play? He could have used drum samples and it would'nt cut a dash.

Something must be wrong with me and my taste - sorry.  ???
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Post by: dmg on July 26, 2012, 10:37:36 PM
I couldn't resist and had a good listen to the snippets on iTunes. You all are going to hate me - but I'm deeply disappointed with the previews.  :disbelief

Of course, these are only snippets - but in one minute you can get a fairly good picture (after all it's nearly one third of the whole song in some cases, I guess... ;)). Too many similarities, not one single song that caught my interest. These "blues" songs all sound the same, like the 100th rehash of "You Can't Beat The House" - even the bass parts are similar. What happened to the melodies MK was cabable of wiriting? And of course the lyrics? And the guitar playing?

I'm no DS fan and think "Get Lucky" was Mark's best album for ages but this album really puts me off. Can't believe it is a double album because they obviously couldn't decide which of these songs to leave off. I couldn't have either, because they all sound too similar :P And if Mark wants Ian Thomas because he is said to be such a great drummer, why don't he let him play? He could have used drum samples and it would'nt cut a dash.

Something must be wrong with me and my taste - sorry.  ???

Perhaps all the great, positive reviews on AMIT have given you high expectations. ???
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Post by: jerrymb on July 26, 2012, 10:59:42 PM
I couldn't resist and had a good listen to the snippets on iTunes. You all are going to hate me - but I'm deeply disappointed with the previews.  :disbelief

Of course, these are only snippets - but in one minute you can get a fairly good picture (after all it's nearly one third of the whole song in some cases, I guess... ;)). Too many similarities, not one single song that caught my interest. These "blues" songs all sound the same, like the 100th rehash of "You Can't Beat The House" - even the bass parts are similar. What happened to the melodies MK was cabable of wiriting? And of course the lyrics? And the guitar playing?

I'm no DS fan and think "Get Lucky" was Mark's best album for ages but this album really puts me off. Can't believe it is a double album because they obviously couldn't decide which of these songs to leave off. I couldn't have either, because they all sound too similar :P And if Mark wants Ian Thomas because he is said to be such a great drummer, why don't he let him play? He could have used drum samples and it would'nt cut a dash.

Something must be wrong with me and my taste - sorry.  ???

Nothing wrong with your taste. I feel the same way you do.
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Post by: Speedway23 on July 26, 2012, 11:11:55 PM

To my taste, the skippers blues tracks are at this stage :
- Don't Forget your Hat
- Hot or What
- I Used to Could
- Today is Okay
=> Too Similar

Miss you Blues is sweet, Got To Have Something is energetic, Gator Blood is really great and powerful and Blood and Water is rather atmospheric.

My favs of the album at this moment :
1) Dream of the Drowned Submariner
2) Privateering
3) Redbud Tree
4) Gator Blood
5) Kingdom of Gold (=> Before Gas and TV) and Corned Beef City
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Post by: mschaap on July 26, 2012, 11:25:09 PM
Hello all,
I do not post often here on AMIT but I read this forum almost on a daily basis... tonight I listen to the samles on iTunes, until now just CD1 but  I just have to say it  really sounds great!!! Go, love  and  Seattle favourites for now. What a nice and down the eath sound! It's gourgeous! Of course the blues songs are similar, that's because they're blues tunes...duh Stop complaining! This really is great stuff. On to CD2...   
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Post by: localhero1986 on July 26, 2012, 11:53:37 PM
Nice samples indeed. Sounds like some links back to the past towards future. There are quite some tunes reminding me of the A shot at glory soundtrack. Of course the bluesy songs are like (but more evolved) You can't beat the house. Nice! Can't wait. ;)
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Post by: xxFordiexx on July 26, 2012, 11:55:47 PM
Superb value coming in for this album. Great to hear loads of Blues tracks that all manage to sound quite different. Loving it so far. Mar'k voice is just wonderful from what I've heard and the sound production is stunning. Can't wait for the release now.
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Post by: mschaap on July 27, 2012, 12:00:29 AM
The sound is stunning indeed! Great production work, can't wait to hear it in the best quality available. CD2 favourites for now: Kingdom, Radio City and Dream of the drowned submariner. Just wonderful!
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Post by: mschaap on July 27, 2012, 12:13:18 AM
It that a clarinet on The Dream of the Drowned Submariner? Is it chris White? Or another Botti contribution...
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Post by: border_reiver on July 27, 2012, 12:18:34 AM
All of you who are disappointed, let me tell you that I know how it feels.

I have felt the same with every single solo album. Always and everytime there have been slow songs that seemed to go on forever. And now and then there came two or three bluesy/folksy full or semi "rockers".

But after all these years, let us (blues and rock and folk-fans) have our day. You can always put the KTGC album on repeat!
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Post by: localhero1986 on July 27, 2012, 12:19:56 AM
Go love... Oh boy, really need to listen the full length... :lol

But superb work MK delivers. Can say that already. And, best thing in life: one of the bluesbands I play don't want to play DS tunes. Well, now there's some real bluesy MK touch. ;)
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Post by: naif on July 27, 2012, 12:33:28 AM
Come on what do you want? If this is'nt a good album which album is good? He has done slow celtic-folk stuff enough for his style(ktgc and gl). + This album has all of it: celtic, folk, bluesy, rock maybe jazz... except heavy metal. Really what do you want?
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Post by: naif on July 27, 2012, 12:37:59 AM
It that a clarinet on The Dream of the Drowned Submariner? Is it chris White? Or another Botti contribution...
I think Chris Botti contribution. Doc said that on his forum.
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Post by: border_reiver on July 27, 2012, 12:38:04 AM
Is it just my iTunes or why does every song suddenly stop 10-15 seconds in?

edit: resolved....
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Post by: Banjo99uk on July 27, 2012, 05:03:01 AM
Ive listened alot to the snippets and am really impressed.  In the last couple of years I've finally got into JJ Cale and Ry Cooder after 20 years of promising myself I would.  This album fits right into my current tastes.  My ears are bleeding after listening to 90 secs of Gator Blood 90 times with earphones at a tinitus inducing level.  Importantly for a MK album it still has haunting melodies, mixed inbetween all those luscious blues tracks. My only concern is an overuse of harmonica.  But as someone else said, lets hope MK and KW trade licks.
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Post by: diddywahdiddy on July 27, 2012, 05:54:01 AM
I think the album sounds very promising, and I'd love to play it on a high-end hifi system. The production sounds a bit rougher or even more natural than previous albums, which I think is a great thing.

Love most of the compositions (Go, love is fantastic), but as much as I dig blues music, the blues songs feel the weakest. Mark's singing on those songs just doesn't sound very convincing. I guess it's a lack of intensity. And he even got his own version of Rolling and tumbling (Got to have something). Dylan influence?

I'm gonna enjoy this album for sure, except for one thing - Mark's slide guitar playing. He sure knows how to handle a guitar, but he ain't no Landreth or Cooder.
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Post by: Rkd on July 27, 2012, 06:21:00 AM
Yeah, at times the clipped British accent seemed incongruous to the blues.
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Post by: lfblaauw on July 27, 2012, 07:43:20 AM
I've listened to the preview on iTunes.  Not a bad album.  Better dan Get Lucky. Redbud Tree is one of the weakest songs on it. But if it will be my favourite MK-album? I doubt. STP is still my favourite, because it has some very strong songs on it.  And I've that this album isn't as strong as STP.  But maybe my mind will change after hearing the full-lenght versions.

Regards,
Lars B.
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 27, 2012, 07:46:31 AM
I have heard this earlier, and now I really want to ask (but in a friendly way  ;) ) : What's wrong with MK's slide guitar playing? I loved it when he did it on
Water of Love live and I loved in on Donegan's Gone and for what I heard now it is still wonderful - many forumers seem to think he isn't good at it? How comes? My slide god is not Landreth but Elmore James, and I think he COULD play...

Can't find it on iTunes anymore by the way, but it might be too early in the morning, will have another try...

LE
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Post by: Guitarman1972 on July 27, 2012, 08:37:54 AM
Quote
My slide god is not Landreth but Elmore James

What about Derek Trucks and Duane Allman's slide guitarplaying?  :D
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Post by: superval99 on July 27, 2012, 09:16:09 AM
Yeah, at times the clipped British accent seemed incongruous to the blues.

I'm sure you meant "clipped English accent" because it is impossible to have a clipped British accent, for obvious reasons.  In any case, being English born and bred myself, I have never thought of MK as having one - I know Americans, in particular, think he has, though.   Sometimes in the past he did a kind of mid-Atlantic drawl, but not so much these days, I'm pleased to say.  ;)

I understand your point, though - an Englishman singing the blues?    Well he has sung blues, of sorts, before and I loved it and I'm sure this time will be no different!  btw Eric Clapton does it with his own accent, why not MK?     :)
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Post by: NicoMK on July 27, 2012, 10:03:00 AM
Much, MUCH different than what he has done until now, from the DS days till Get Lucky

There are like 15 or 16 OTHER tracks that are not blues songs, and still you choose to pass? Go figure ...


Well, at least from what I heard, this is not really my cup of tea. I will listen to the whole album one way or another and decide if I buy it or not.

I completely respect Mark's choice for doing what HE wants with the musicians that HE wants but once again, AT LEAST FROM WHAT I HEARD, I didn't like it very much.

I'm not talking about looooong guitar solos (I don't miss the DS days that much) but I don't quite like Mark's "new" direction, period.

I love the Golden Heart / Sailing to Philadelphia / Kill to get crimson records, as well as the sublime duets album with Emmylou and loved the last tours with a fabulous band, despite repetitive (thus a bit boring
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Post by: GennT on July 27, 2012, 10:27:54 AM
It's not on Itunes anymore?!  ???
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Post by: El Macho on July 27, 2012, 10:41:55 AM
I'm really happy with the new direction Mark takes.
I must admit that I'm a little fed up with the celtic tunes... When I heard Haul Away last I thought "Oh my god, still celtic !"
Miss you blues, bluebird and Gator Blood really seem to be beautiful blues songs.
I think Sonny Landreth should have played on this album !
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Post by: Fletch on July 27, 2012, 10:54:10 AM
I have heard this earlier, and now I really want to ask (but in a friendly way  ;) ) : What's wrong with MK's slide guitar playing? I loved it when he did it on
Water of Love live and I loved in on Donegan's Gone and for what I heard now it is still wonderful - many forumers seem to think he isn't good at it? How comes? My slide god is not Landreth but Elmore James, and I think he COULD play...

Can't find it on iTunes anymore by the way, but it might be too early in the morning, will have another try...

LE

George Harrison, "Elmore James has got nothing on this, baby.... "

Music isn't just about technique it's more about feel / vibe / emotion !
Just one one bent note up a tone, can (usually always) hit me harder than Ywnigie or Satriani.
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Post by: schmonka on July 27, 2012, 10:54:33 AM
I agree - Itunes must have had their nuts squeezed and removed "Private Earring" - even from the snippets

I heard the samples prior to the removal and really dont see the tracks as that a radical change from the direction MK has been heading in recent years - really this shouldnt come as a shock to anyone....personally i thought the songs were fantastic....
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Post by: ingridswing on July 27, 2012, 11:08:34 AM
I have the snippets as a download. But it's 74MB. What's the easiest way to make it possible you have them as well?
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 27, 2012, 11:13:46 AM
I have heard this earlier, and now I really want to ask (but in a friendly way  ;) ) : What's wrong with MK's slide guitar playing? I loved it when he did it on
Water of Love live and I loved in on Donegan's Gone and for what I heard now it is still wonderful - many forumers seem to think he isn't good at it? How comes? My slide god is not Landreth but Elmore James, and I think he COULD play...

Can't find it on iTunes anymore by the way, but it might be too early in the morning, will have another try...

LE

George Harrison, "Elmore James has got nothing on this, baby.... "

Music isn't just about technique it's more about feel / vibe / emotion !
Just one one bent note up a tone, can (usually always) hit me harder than Ywnigie or Satriani.

Hmm. I don't get your statement right together with my quoted post somehow..  ;D So you agree? Or disagree? Or hot or what?

LE
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Post by: border_reiver on July 27, 2012, 11:17:49 AM

I think Sonny Landreth should have played on this album !

Being a major Sonny fan I'm probably biased but I agree. At least one or two tracks would have been perfect for Sonny's playing.

But bringing Sonny in would have made it "too" technical and maybe MK wanted to keep it simple.
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Post by: El Macho on July 27, 2012, 11:21:54 AM
corned beef city is made for Sonny !
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Post by: ingridswing on July 27, 2012, 11:25:47 AM
I am sending it to a forummember, I suppose he is able to make it available.
I know wetransfer, but sending it one by one to a lot of forummember would be a hell of a job
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Post by: Mona Dee on July 27, 2012, 11:26:07 AM
Hello ingridswing,

great idea, to give us the songs as a download ! Thank you for the idea. I would LOVE to hear the snippets, although I`m sure, I will buy the cd or box even if havn`t heard the music before !
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Post by: schmonka on July 27, 2012, 11:33:23 AM
Everyone needs to sample the delights of "Private Herring"..... :lol
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Post by: Fletch on July 27, 2012, 11:33:59 AM
I have heard this earlier, and now I really want to ask (but in a friendly way  ;) ) : What's wrong with MK's slide guitar playing? I loved it when he did it on
Water of Love live and I loved in on Donegan's Gone and for what I heard now it is still wonderful - many forumers seem to think he isn't good at it? How comes? My slide god is not Landreth but Elmore James, and I think he COULD play...

Can't find it on iTunes anymore by the way, but it might be too early in the morning, will have another try...

LE

George Harrison, "Elmore James has got nothing on this, baby.... "

Music isn't just about technique it's more about feel / vibe / emotion !
Just one one bent note up a tone, can (usually always) hit me harder than Ywnigie or Satriani.

Hmm. I don't get your statement right together with my quoted post somehow..  ;D So you agree? Or disagree? Or hot or what?

LE

I AGREE!
George was recording his song with John Lennon playing (what is considered by most musicians) basic slide notes. The fun on this song, For You Blue, is evident and and The Beatles are having a blast! I love it!

Nothing wrong with Marks playing, he knows ALL about "feel"!
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Post by: border_reiver on July 27, 2012, 11:34:42 AM
What's wrong with MK's slide guitar playing?
LE

There's nothing wrong with it really  :)

But being a slide guitarist myself I know that it takes twice the practice of normal playing to get things right. And perhaps MK has developed his own unique style?

He's not the "greatest slide guitar player in the world going" but he sounds different and that's what I like about it.

Anyone can play "I can't be satisfied"  ;D

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Post by: ingridswing on July 27, 2012, 11:39:43 AM
To ALL forummembers,

Be patient, we will find a way to post it somewhere. Please do NOT ask me or others by PM (this is not meant to the people I already PM with a lot or who are friends for years of course). We all have more than a MK-life. In the Netherlands we have a saying:
children who ask will be ignored! So I suppose this could be a new rule regarding downloads and stuff  ;D Not meant to be rude, but have some patience and you will get it one way or another  
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Post by: straitsway75 on July 27, 2012, 11:55:26 AM
Hallo boys & girls,
please if is possible somebody can send me the samples, in utunes is over.

straitsway75
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Post by: ingridswing on July 27, 2012, 12:02:42 PM
Hallo boys & girls,
please if is possible somebody can send me the samples, in utunes is over.

straitsway75

Read my message below and wait a little, we try to find a way to make it available for everyone
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Post by: Mona Dee on July 27, 2012, 12:08:22 PM
Hi ingrid,

yes, I am patient  :). I think it`s great, that someone who has a job besides MK , as we hopefully all have, will make this possible. Thank you ( or whoever will do the job) in advance.
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Post by: diddywahdiddy on July 27, 2012, 12:09:53 PM
There's nothing wrong with Mark's slide playing, technically. It's basic, but it's not about being very technical or not. Playing slide is a very expressive and intense form of guitar playing. It's supposed to be vocal-like. In my opinion, Mark's slide playing is not that. He was better in his early years when he was a guitar nut though, but then his regular guitar playing was more intense as well, so I guess there's a connection.
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Post by: straitsway75 on July 27, 2012, 12:13:30 PM
Hallo Ingridswing,
Iam very sorry for not rea your message before writing. ??? ??? ???
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Post by: holaknopfler on July 27, 2012, 12:21:16 PM
You can't please everybody and Mark knows that. He does what he likes and I appreciate that. We should be happy that he still brings albums out:-)  Slide playing is a very special thing in guitarworld, everybody has a different style, and MK can do it quite well. I like it.
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Post by: ingridswing on July 27, 2012, 01:23:16 PM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/94315955/Privateering.zip

I made a dropbox-account, here's the link to the snippets. It's the first time I use it, so hopefully it works.
Please drop a message in this htread if it works. Thanks!
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Post by: richardmu on July 27, 2012, 01:25:38 PM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/94315955/Privateering.zip

I made a dropbox-account, here's the link to the snippets. It's the first time I use it, so hopefully it works.
Please drop a message in this htread if it works. Thanks!

Error (404)
We can't find the page you're looking for. Check out our Help Center and forums for help, or head back to home.

Have you shared the link as Public ? Also has it finished uploading from your computer to dropbox ? When upload is finished the files show up with a Green Tick in the icon.
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Post by: ingridswing on July 27, 2012, 01:31:54 PM
Yep, it looked easy. It says drop a file in the public folder --> so I dragged the zip-file in it.
Then right click on it and  a link will be made --> done
Then send the link to your friends --> http://dl.dropbox.com/u/94315955/Privateering.zip

Here it is again, don't see what I can do more, someone knows?
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Post by: llombitos on July 27, 2012, 01:33:54 PM
Could you try to upload into a mediafire server?

Thank for all
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Post by: richardmu on July 27, 2012, 01:34:11 PM
Does it show with a green tick icon in your folder or a blue icon. I think if blue it means its still uploading.
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Post by: ingridswing on July 27, 2012, 01:36:36 PM
There's no icon, but when I click on dropbox it says uploading, 17 minutes remaining  ;D  ;D
Thanks you for your help! So more patience needed, by me and by the others  ;)
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Post by: richardmu on July 27, 2012, 01:37:27 PM
There's no icon, but when I click on dropbox it says uploading, 17 minutes remaining  ;D  ;D
Thanks you for your help! So more patience needed, by me and by the others  ;)

Internet must be slow from Netherlands today :D
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Post by: ingridswing on July 27, 2012, 01:40:18 PM
That's actually true. The file is 74 MB by the way but we have some trouble with the provider. We got a mail that it could be slow because of maintenance today. It's not only slow, I got kicked out a couple of times as well. Fortunately only for 1 minute or so but still annoying  ::)
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Post by: llombitos on July 27, 2012, 01:53:49 PM
Downloading  ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: richardmu on July 27, 2012, 01:55:54 PM
WOW Haul Away is incredible !!!!!!!

Thanks so much for uploading this :)
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Post by: naif on July 27, 2012, 01:57:57 PM
http://dl.dropbox.com/u/94315955/Privateering.zip

I made a dropbox-account, here's the link to the snippets. It's the first time I use it, so hopefully it works.
Please drop a message in this htread if it works. Thanks!
Thanks very much for your effort ingridswing :)
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Post by: ingridswing on July 27, 2012, 02:01:29 PM
I think today is my learning day. Learned how to use dropbox and from a very dear friend I learned something about some music and the way to listen to it.  :D
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Post by: Jasper90 on July 27, 2012, 02:07:24 PM
Thank you very much ingridswing!  :)
Downloading! ;D
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Post by: ingridswing on July 27, 2012, 02:30:19 PM
bol.com in the Netherlands now mention the superdeluxe edition with the content we already discussed. Not yet able to pre-order. But it will be available  :D
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Post by: Rkd on July 27, 2012, 02:34:03 PM

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I'm sure you meant "clipped English accent" because it is impossible to have a clipped British accent, for obvious reasons.  
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Thanks for the correction. My American is showing, I fear.
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Post by: joanzimm on July 27, 2012, 02:37:38 PM
I think today is my learning day. Learned how to use dropbox and from a very dear friend I learned something about some music and the way to listen to it.  :D

Thanks so much, Ingrid.  I'm listening for the first time thanks to you :-* :-*
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Post by: Mona Dee on July 27, 2012, 02:45:05 PM
Thank you Thank you Thank you  :D
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Post by: straitsway75 on July 27, 2012, 02:58:01 PM
 :D :D :D :D :D  ;) ;) ;) ;):D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D :D
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 27, 2012, 03:00:25 PM


Oh, it seems I missed the whole downloading DRAMA here! Ingrid our hero! I am at work still, so I have to try to download it this evening.... INGRIDSWING, thanks a lot, and you can forget about my pm - as you mentioned already!  ;D :-*

LE
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Post by: kaleo74 on July 27, 2012, 03:05:24 PM
INGRIDSWING our Local Hero !
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Post by: superval99 on July 27, 2012, 03:14:39 PM
Dear Ingrid, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for working so hard to get these songs to us all!     :-*

I have listened to the songs once and already I can hear some that are going to be absolute favourites.    :P   I am listening for the second time now - so many wonderful songs!!  I'm smiling!   ;D

BTW Love the harmonica!   :)
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Post by: schmonka on July 27, 2012, 03:24:39 PM
Dear Ingrid, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for working so hard to get these songs to us all!     :-*

I have listened to the songs once and already I can hear some that are going to be absolute favourites.    :P   I am listening for the second time now - so many wonderful songs!!  I'm smiling!   ;D

BTW Love the harmonica!   :)

Val,

Temptation got the better of you i see???!!! ;D :lol
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Post by: henk1951 on July 27, 2012, 03:36:20 PM
Thanks a lot Ingrid. Heel goed gedaan ...Fast download, no problems
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Post by: superval99 on July 27, 2012, 03:39:15 PM
Dear Ingrid, THANK YOU, THANK YOU for working so hard to get these songs to us all!     :-*

I have listened to the songs once and already I can hear some that are going to be absolute favourites.    :P   I am listening for the second time now - so many wonderful songs!!  I'm smiling!   ;D

BTW Love the harmonica!   :)

Val,

Temptation got the better of you i see???!!! ;D :lol

I'm afraid so, Schmonka!    ::)
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Post by: dmg on July 27, 2012, 04:04:49 PM
I think on tour the harmonica parts may be taken by Jim on the piano/organ.  Maybe trading solo's with MK kind of Junkie Doll style hopefully.  That'll would be great in my opinion, unless he manages in integrate Mike's pipes into these blues numbers somehow... ???
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Post by: superval99 on July 27, 2012, 04:48:53 PM
I think on tour the harmonica parts may be taken by Jim on the piano/organ. 

Oh no, not Jim, please not Jim!!  :disbelief
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 27, 2012, 05:13:26 PM
Mike Henderson would be a perfect man for these tracks live on stage.

LE
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Post by: El Macho on July 27, 2012, 05:17:09 PM
Mike Henderson would be a perfect man for these tracks live on stage.

LE

Mike Henderson is a good alternative as he can play guitar and harmonica, but I didn't like a lot his guitar playing during the STP tour...
I think harmonica will be replaced by Jim's piano or organ, John McC's fiddle  ???
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Post by: dmg on July 27, 2012, 05:27:57 PM
Poor Jim.  I very much disliked his plinky plonk on Sultans in '96, but there can be no doubt he is a very talented musician and is far more capable than the likes of Matt in terms of improvisation.  Matt was simply a robot and played exactly the same every night;  not a proper musician in my book.  You could train a monkey to do that. 

I think MK may use Jim quite a bit on the next tour now he is able to travel again and I look forward to hearing him.  We may even get the long version of Sultans again...who knows?
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Post by: superval99 on July 27, 2012, 05:28:55 PM
Mike Henderson completely ruined the STP show at the RAH - he was just far too loud and drowned MK's guitar!  
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Post by: superval99 on July 27, 2012, 05:30:33 PM
.  We may even get the long version of Sultans again...who knows?

I much prefer the 4-piece version of Sultans! 
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Post by: Best Brown Baggies on July 27, 2012, 05:59:34 PM
Any version of Sultans for me please. :P :P :P 8)

Cheers. BBB
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Post by: Guitar-Andreas on July 27, 2012, 06:40:55 PM
The download link doesn't work anymore :(
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Post by: dmg on July 27, 2012, 06:41:37 PM
Any version of Sultans for me please. :P :P :P 8)

Cheers. BBB

A faster, more energetic one would be nice!  I never listen to any from the last tour now.  On reflection I think they sounded terrible. :disbelief
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Post by: Banjo99uk on July 27, 2012, 06:45:14 PM
Any version of Sultans for me please. :P :P :P 8)

Cheers. BBB

A faster, more energetic one would be nice!  I never listen to any from the last tour now.  On reflection I think they sounded terrible. :disbelief

Yeah, bloody awful like telegraph road.
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Post by: dmg on July 27, 2012, 06:47:15 PM
Any version of Sultans for me please. :P :P :P 8)

Cheers. BBB

A faster, more energetic one would be nice!  I never listen to any from the last tour now.  On reflection I think they sounded terrible. :disbelief

Yeah, bloody awful like telegraph road.

Well said old bean! ;)
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Post by: border_reiver on July 27, 2012, 06:57:00 PM
Trying my DB out as well...

https://www.dropbox.com/s/entl8d1zst9efkl/Privateering.zip

edit: link down...
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Post by: Guitar-Andreas on July 27, 2012, 07:04:12 PM
Thanks! :D
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Post by: ingridswing on July 27, 2012, 07:12:40 PM
My dropbox got banned for 3 days because of extensed traffic ;-)
So please people upload it yourself so THE traffic got spread
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Post by: GennT on July 27, 2012, 07:14:32 PM
Thanks a lot Ingrid! I just can't wait, now that I know how good this album is!
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Post by: El Macho on July 27, 2012, 07:33:39 PM
Try this link : http://dl.free.fr/uqZr5xwuF
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 27, 2012, 07:53:46 PM
Thanks to all who have replied to my slide guitar question!  ;)

Have you all heard this spectacular litte piece (I would call it Elmore James style?) in the snippet of "Gator Blood" from 1:03 min. on? I can't help but have to laugh out loud every single time I hear it - out of joy, it is soo great! And this last long bending note - funny little break - I love it! His voice on Gator Blood is so deep and dirty and hot that I don't give a damn about any dialect!  8) Drooling comments are to be exptected in the near future! (I bet)

LE
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Post by: dmg on July 27, 2012, 07:58:42 PM
I would just love to hear our own AMIT ladies at a concert if he ever did Hot Or What live! :disbelief
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Post by: superval99 on July 27, 2012, 08:22:59 PM
Am I hot or what?       YEAHHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH!   ;D    :lol
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Post by: Mona Dee on July 27, 2012, 09:18:44 PM
dmg, hot or what is cool, but the melody of Bluebird is really sexy  :-* wow !
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 27, 2012, 09:25:48 PM
Yeah, and I am pretty sure that in Bluebird after the next verse (from the snippet)  we will have a very hot MK guitar solo echoing this Harmonica outburst... would be great! Has a little bit of some recent Dylan song I can't remember and Fade To Black in it...

LE
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Post by: PixelPerfect on July 27, 2012, 09:36:12 PM
Hah! Oh YEAH! I left iTunes open on the Privateering page overnight, and I can still listen to it today! I didn't even realize it was taken down! I'm not clicking that little red X 'till the album comes out!
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Post by: dmg on July 27, 2012, 09:40:57 PM
Yeah, and I am pretty sure that in Bluebird after the next verse (from the snippet)  we will have a very hot MK guitar solo echoing this Harmonica outburst... would be great! Has a little bit of some recent Dylan song I can't remember and Fade To Black in it...

LE

Yes, Bluebird may be my favourite from the clips but there are a few others that sound great too.  As you say, it does need a good guitar solo in it.

Yon Two Crows sounds like it's building up to something great too.

Radio City sounds very much like a better produced Stand Up Guy;  very same tune!
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Post by: straitsway75 on July 27, 2012, 09:43:32 PM
Hallo, thank again all at INGRIDSWING,

I like too much this album, very beatiful songs and a GREAT MARK.

Listening to 'Got to have something' :D :D I remember a Clapton's track on Me and Mr Johnson: If I had possession over judgement day :-X :-X. If you can listen it and tell  what do you think.

straitsway75
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Post by: superval99 on July 27, 2012, 09:51:21 PM
Hi Straitsaway!    Yes, I know that one and it seems to be just another take on "Rollin' and Tumblin'" as I think "Got to Have Something" is also. 
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 27, 2012, 09:55:51 PM
Yeah, that is pretty blues standard. You can also point out to Rollin' an Tumblin' from Guy's Bluesclub or from Bob Dylan... or this one:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DbxB4OMb3nU

 ;)

LE
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Post by: El Macho on July 27, 2012, 09:58:22 PM
Hah! Oh YEAH! I left iTunes open on the Privateering page overnight, and I can still listen to it today! I didn't even realize it was taken down! I'm not clicking that little red X 'till the album comes out!
Try this link : http://dl.free.fr/uqZr5xwuF
you can download from this link !
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Post by: superval99 on July 27, 2012, 10:01:30 PM
After listening to these songs many times now, I have to admit that Jim is the perfect choice for this album.  Matt's style of playing just wouldn't have fitted.   As always, MK knows best!   ;)      
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 27, 2012, 10:11:20 PM
Hey Val, not watching the Opening Ceremony right now? Looks great after the first minutes...  :D

LE
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Post by: superval99 on July 27, 2012, 10:40:14 PM
Hey Val, not watching the Opening Ceremony right now? Looks great after the first minutes...  :D

LE

Hi LE!   Watching now!    It is quite spectacular!     :o
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Post by: GennT on July 27, 2012, 10:58:17 PM
I'm waiting for some DS to be played! =)
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Post by: ds1984 on July 27, 2012, 11:08:45 PM
Thank you El Macho and ingridswing

I did upload it to an alternate host : http://www26.zippyshare.com/v/48524154/file.html (http://www26.zippyshare.com/v/48524154/file.html)


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Post by: El Macho on July 27, 2012, 11:10:12 PM
I'm waiting for some DS to be played! =)

DS seems to be a has been band :'(
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Post by: ds1984 on July 27, 2012, 11:20:19 PM
I'm waiting for some DS to be played! =)

DS seems to be a has been band :'(

DS is not an has been brand!

Proof :

(http://photo.autonews.fr/citroen2/ds4/citroen-ds4-2/1316893-1-fre-FR/citroen-ds4-2_headerphoto.jpg)
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Post by: El Macho on July 27, 2012, 11:24:16 PM
I'm waiting for some DS to be played! =)

DS seems to be a has been band :'(

DS is not an has been brand!

Proof :

(http://photo.autonews.fr/citroen2/ds4/citroen-ds4-2/1316893-1-fre-FR/citroen-ds4-2_headerphoto.jpg)

 ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: joanzimm on July 27, 2012, 11:35:26 PM
I'm waiting for some DS to be played! =)

DS seems to be a has been band :'(

Not at all.  You wouldn't believe how often those Burger King commercials run.  DS is playing on the TV several times a day :-*
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 27, 2012, 11:43:40 PM
OUCH!!

LE
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Post by: goldenheart96 on July 27, 2012, 11:57:43 PM
corned beef city is made for Sonny !

Yes it sounds like "Gravy Train" part two!
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Post by: localhero1986 on July 28, 2012, 01:09:26 AM
Indeed. Had some more 'reminders' (talking from the samples)

don't forget your hat: you can't beat the house
go, love: follow me home (just a little)
hot or what: you can't beat the house (again)  ;D
kingdom of gold: so far from the clyde
radio city serenade: one more matin
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Post by: border_reiver on July 28, 2012, 02:05:29 AM
Gator Blood reminds me so much of RL Burnside's 'Poor Black Mattie' (like I wrote yesterday). Love it!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=12cgEQSTYxg
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Post by: mschaap on July 28, 2012, 02:22:13 AM
This album is like a proper knopfler album with a blues/r'n'r bonus cd. There's much NHB stuff to be found, this rollin and tumblin track is just like meet me in the botttom and blue bird just like rope streching and of course behind here lies nothing from dylan. Still great though. I think if you put the best ones on one disc it could be his best album...
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Post by: border_reiver on July 28, 2012, 02:23:32 AM
And to kill the discussion about MK and slide. Remember the 'Seeing In The Dark'-theme?  ;D

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qBB3QF0sj2c
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 28, 2012, 08:17:28 AM
  Still great though. I think if you put the best ones on one disc it could be his best album...

At the moment, I would not know which songs I should I should take off, so I think it IS his best album so far - for me!  ;)

LE
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Post by: El Macho on July 28, 2012, 09:07:04 AM
Indeed. Had some more 'reminders' (talking from the samples)

don't forget your hat: you can't beat the house
go, love: follow me home (just a little)
hot or what: you can't beat the house (again)  ;D
kingdom of gold: so far from the clyde
radio city serenade: one more matin
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Post by: El Macho on July 28, 2012, 09:10:42 AM
Yon Two Crows, sorry for the mistake !!
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Post by: superval99 on July 28, 2012, 09:12:44 AM
I can hear a little bit of "Sucker Row" in "Yon Two Crows"
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Post by: superval99 on July 28, 2012, 09:33:57 AM
Okay - this album has passed the critical test for me - I'm getting lots of goosebumps when the samples play!    ;D   I love them all!   :P
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Post by: Kay Edvin on July 28, 2012, 10:09:02 AM
Ohhhh love this songs!!!

"Go, Love" is for me a fantastic song!! The way he is singing..the lyrics..and the guitar...the atmosphere of the song...
WOW!!! MK has done it again!!

Cant wait for the album!  8)
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Post by: Leprechaun on July 28, 2012, 12:24:38 PM
Just heard the samples, not the whole songs but here is a first impression:

There are 5 songs that I liked very much from the first time:

1. Bluebird
2. Blood and water
3. Yon two crows
4. Go love
5. Got to have something

There are 2 that are OK for me:
6. Haul away
7. Corned beef city

BUT, there are another 13 that are not my cup of tea at all, very repetitive tunes. That's pretty much when I think back that in the old days of DS albums and solo stuff GH and STP there were no skippers for me. I can't get warm with that standard rootsy blues, celtic and country style over and over again. I mean there's always been much blues in MK songs from beginning but it the base was rock with blues ingredients.

I don't understand why MK puts his virtuosity and outstanding charasteristics, something that makes him unique and different from other musicians on our planet, totally in the background: his brilliant guitar playing. Is he really tired of soloing around after all the years? Instead of this he now tries to be a singer which I don't like much.

Just my opinion, but it was time for an honest word! Maybe he will turn back to the DS roots or the GH-style....


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Post by: superval99 on July 28, 2012, 12:34:22 PM
Just my opinion, but it was time for an honest word!

Mine was an honest comment also.   After I had given the songs more than two hearings, I was hooked and we must bear in mind that these are only snippets - there is much more of the songs to hear yet!  

Apart from the bluesy songs, there are also some very beautiful melodies and also the prospect of more MK guitar.   I like the sound of these blues - they are very reminiscent of the NHB of whom I am a great fan.

As for MK turning back to DS or GH - he has been there and done that, lovely as it was, but now he's doing different things, which I'm all in favour of.
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Post by: marc96er on July 28, 2012, 12:55:04 PM
Hi everybody!

Seems like this is a new promo-pic by Fabio Lovino who also took the Shangri-La pictures

http://static.universal-music-services.de/asset_new/279465/195/download/Pressebild-01-2012.jpg

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Post by: superval99 on July 28, 2012, 01:00:58 PM
Thanks for that, marc96er!    I think he needs a shave, though!   ;D
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Post by: the visitor on July 28, 2012, 02:29:06 PM
I listened to the samples on itunes.  I think Go Love is a very good tune from what I have heard. The female vocals add a very effective shadow to Mark's and a nice dose of guitar signing the tune along with him makes.   I also like Redbud Tree - again a good dose of characteristic guitar.  To me, on these tunes, he sounds most natural and most himself.

I will save my thoughts on the rest of the album for myself.   

Thanks to whoever found the samples on itunes.
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Post by: Mona Dee on July 28, 2012, 03:27:37 PM
Thanks for the photo-link marc96er, I like the photo much better than the get-lucky-photos of Zoriah, who is a war-photographer... His photos don`t always flatter  Mark.
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Post by: jbaent on July 28, 2012, 03:28:20 PM
Hi everybody!

Seems like this is a new promo-pic by Fabio Lovino who also took the Shangri-La pictures

http://static.universal-music-services.de/asset_new/279465/195/download/Pressebild-01-2012.jpg



Way too much make up... Looks like a monster, unreal, ugly
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Post by: superval99 on July 28, 2012, 03:31:13 PM
Hi everybody!

Seems like this is a new promo-pic by Fabio Lovino who also took the Shangri-La pictures

http://static.universal-music-services.de/asset_new/279465/195/download/Pressebild-01-2012.jpg



Way too much make up... Looks like a monster, unreal, ugly

I have to agree with you, jbaent!     I think he looks like he's wearing a pink mask!     :o
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Post by: El Macho on July 28, 2012, 03:43:03 PM
Hi everybody!

Seems like this is a new promo-pic by Fabio Lovino who also took the Shangri-La pictures

http://static.universal-music-services.de/asset_new/279465/195/download/Pressebild-01-2012.jpg



Way too much make up... Looks like a monster, unreal, ugly
Too much photoshop !
Reliefs have been raised and he seems to have very deep wrinkles !
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Post by: ds1984 on July 28, 2012, 04:39:25 PM
I had a strange feeling listening the samples.

Up to now when Mark wrote musical stuff he turned the inspiration he got from into definitive "Mark Knopfler's" style. Even the buesy tunes he played by the past with Dire Straits were sounding like nothing else.

When he decided to make it the cover way that turned into the NHB, it was fun rendition.

For the first time yesterday I was bemused to listen some original MK stuff he absolutlely did not write a single note.
I like blues very much but oh my god what Mark is doing on this new album is just blues stuff already heard thousand of times, and here with absolutly no originality.
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Post by: superval99 on July 28, 2012, 05:02:17 PM
Dylan's been doing it most of his career!   ;)
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Post by: ds1984 on July 28, 2012, 05:15:38 PM
Dylan's been doing it most of his career!   ;)

Mark is NOT Bob.
They are both genius but different geniuses.
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Post by: Mona Dee on July 28, 2012, 05:24:25 PM
Now I heard the snippets several times and I must say I love the melodies, some more some less, but in combination with his voice and the lyrics this album is perfect for me ! Maybe he hasn`t reinvented the Blues, but up to now I havn`t heard much Blues . So for me it`s kind of new and full of athmosphere. 
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Post by: superval99 on July 28, 2012, 05:32:20 PM
What I heard in some of these songs were nods to material he has written himself on other albums - not the same, of course, but there are likenesses, which is inevitable, I suppose.   The only one of the blues-sounding songs which was really recognisable to me was "Got To Have Something" - obviously a take on "Rollin & Tumblin".
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Post by: naif on July 28, 2012, 07:19:55 PM
My favorites are Gator Blood and Radio City Serenade. For now of course...
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Post by: superval99 on July 28, 2012, 07:29:52 PM
My favorites are Gator Blood and Radio City Serenade. For now of course...

Ha Naif!   I have Radio City Serenade going around my head at this moment!   I love it!   :)
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 28, 2012, 08:56:43 PM
I am in a high mood since I listen to the snippets on a daily base and I knew this would happen of course - some people disagree. I find that rather amusing - I think it is a sign of (my) maturation that I just leave that to those and pity them a bit - I for my part have heard some of the best stuff MK has put out ever - I know it's a big word but there it is. It is the easiness just "to make some noise" - and not becoming obsessed with finding the right little flavour here and subtle detail there - instead of that he is just playing away - with a lot of "joie de vivre" - I wanted a blues record from MK since 20 years or so. Or maybe longer.

I always had problems with the very soft and very high voice on some of the recent albums - Monteleone, although great, was sung in such a mellow and weak way, same with Remembrance Day and Hard Shoulder - never liked it really, disturbed me a bit. I haven't found this singing style on the new songs which is great. His voice is excellent and outstanding on some songs. Go, Love, although only heard in parts, has the potential to become an all-time favourite for me, Yon Two Crows is really promising and sounds Dire Straitish and dramatic, and just listen to the deep sounding and absolute cool rhythm guitar part on Don't Forget Your Hat - the light and heartwarming loveliness of Miss You Blues - I could go on forever --- YES, I love it already now! The way he sings the first two lines of I Used To Could (...how he pronounces "train", or "winterkill" in Yon Two Crows, ... BRILLIANT!)
And so much more to discover. Seattle grows on me, Submariner also...  Is there really more one could ask for?

And suddenly I am into the lyrics, something that didn't work by just reading them. His voice and phrasing and interpretation makes me want to know more about it. It is always the same thing. Just discovered how wonderful the lyrics of Yon Two Crows are. For me, this is complete bliss! Maybe it's because I am a uncritical fanboy. But who cares. Being a fan of high quality stuff like this is nothing to feel ashamed of.

LE
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Post by: rpfa on July 28, 2012, 09:10:55 PM
 :)hi to hall....sorry if i don
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Post by: goldenheart96 on July 28, 2012, 09:14:44 PM
Hmm... I think I will leave the snippets alone... I don't want to turn into a "complainer" nor do I want to get overly excited... I'll just wait until I can hear the whole thing.
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Post by: naif on July 28, 2012, 10:23:37 PM
My favorites are Gator Blood and Radio City Serenade. For now of course...

Ha Naif!   I have Radio City Serenade going around my head at this moment!   I love it!   :)
Hi Val! It's like a metroland theme isn't it? Maybe more melacnholic, romantic and deep. And Gator Blood has some powerful slide solo with high volume. I can't wait to listen the whole thing  :P After KTGC and partly GL this is awesome :) He came to Istanbul for a KTGC tour but this is the worst tour he ever did i think(still like a dream but...). so i really hope he can come again Istanbul for Privateering tour in 2013. Otherwise i have to cross the continent and spend a lot of money. I have to see him in 2013 :P
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Post by: ingridswing on July 28, 2012, 11:25:27 PM
Naif, it's not that expensive to come to Holland. A lot of my friends travel to Turkey pretty cheap. Checkout the flight to Amsterdam or Eindhoven. From Eindhoven it's about 1 1/4 hour by train, but the flights can be very cheap
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Post by: naif on July 28, 2012, 11:57:45 PM
Naif, it's not that expensive to come to Holland. A lot of my friends travel to Turkey pretty cheap. Checkout the flight to Amsterdam or Eindhoven. From Eindhoven it's about 1 1/4 hour by train, but the flights can be very cheap
Yes ingrid i know we have a lot of dutch friends in Antalya. But you know if i fly to amsterdam it's not going to be a one day trip. I love to discover a lot of things like cultural food, buildings, historical places... in the other hand i'm a teacher and i don't know my 2013 lesson plan yet and will they do a summer school or something like that. When you have a boring, rutin life in 23 years old you can see tomorrow but one year after, i don't know yet. BUT i'm sure HMH must be perfect place to see MK and i'll do that yes. They can fire me :) In 2008 we had  open air gig with the 14.500 people in the bosphorus but the audience and Mark isn't good enough for each other.
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Post by: Fletch on July 29, 2012, 12:03:43 AM
I had a strange feeling listening the samples.

Up to now when Mark wrote musical stuff he turned the inspiration he got from into definitive "Mark Knopfler's" style. Even the buesy tunes he played by the past with Dire Straits were sounding like nothing else.

When he decided to make it the cover way that turned into the NHB, it was fun rendition.

For the first time yesterday I was bemused to listen some original MK stuff he absolutlely did not write a single note.
I like blues very much but oh my god what Mark is doing on this new album is just blues stuff already heard thousand of times, and here with absolutly no originality.

I appreciate this observation, it's how I feel about a lot of the Celtic tunes from Northumberland onwards...
But lack of originality can still be cool, it's rightly pointed out that Bob has been twisting Grooves and Melodies forever - ever watched the Wilbury DVD where Bob says to all the others, "..we should do one like this..." it turns into one of the songs on the record, and all those songs are great.
I'm also with golden heart in not listening too much - I know I'll buy it anyway - and I know my feelings will change from the initial listen to a year from that.
Mark does what he wants... As always!
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Post by: ingridswing on July 29, 2012, 12:07:26 AM
Now we have an even better place, just next to the Heineken Music Hall it's Ziggo Dome. Perfect sound and twice as big as HMH. 17.000 people. Wondering where MK will go to  :D
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 29, 2012, 12:12:38 AM
 

I like blues very much but oh my god what Mark is doing on this new album is just blues stuff already heard thousand of times, and here with absolutly no originality.

Well, on 6 songs out of 20. There are a lot of great songs in typical MK manner - Miss You Blues, Go, Love, Yon Two Crows, Radio City Serenade and so on offer good MK stuff. If you would take the blues songs of Privateering, it still would be a classic album.. But Gator Blood is the coolest thing MK ever did..

LE
 
 
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Post by: another brother on July 29, 2012, 01:08:55 AM
Hello

i am new here in this forum, but an old MK follower, i met him 2 times in my life and it
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Post by: ingridswing on July 29, 2012, 01:34:28 AM
Hi brother, nice to have you on board and nice you put this review online.
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Post by: shangri la 1 on July 29, 2012, 02:18:58 AM
Hi brother, nice to have you on board and nice you put this review online.
+1
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Post by: PixelPerfect on July 29, 2012, 04:43:02 AM
...and just listen to the deep sounding and absolute cool rhythm guitar part on Don't Forget Your Hat...

I'm listening to that one with subwoofer-amplified headphones, and it's awesome.
Man, LE, I love your reviews of this album! They make me love the music even more.
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Post by: foma on July 29, 2012, 04:59:26 AM
There is a lot of blues on the new album, yes. But it grooves SO HARD. That crazy rhythm section just beats me out of the room literally. I know now why Danny was rejected. Ian rocks! Danny rocks too, but in his own way, certainly not in the blues. It's hard to listen You Can't Beat a House even after just snippets of P-g. I can listen groovy blues like new ones all day long.

Radio City Serenade - oh, I sing it for two days now and can't help it. Same key as Stand Up Guy and similar feeling. But that a song! Ahhhh, it kills me. I want more!

Blood and Water - reminds to me one of Radiohead songs lol, although I can't figure out which one. Maybe Creep? But anyway, it's already one of my favorites.

After the Beanstalk - and the all other Eb songs, I just love this key! For some reasons I find it funniest and happiest key. And great last track of course! Again and again, major ending for great MK album.

Cons:
Sailing To Philadelphia - awful hi hat! Too heavy for this song imho.

Thanks a million for uploading snippets!
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Post by: dustyvalentino on July 29, 2012, 09:45:36 AM
I'm going to wait for the whole thing,  but great to read your views.

I find the blues a bit boring and repetitve,  but will reserve judgment.

Igor and Val, Mk is NOT an Englishman.;)
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Post by: dustyvalentino on July 29, 2012, 09:47:16 AM
That should say "oh" not Igor.  Stupid phone.
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Post by: superval99 on July 29, 2012, 09:55:42 AM
Igor and Val, Mk is NOT an Englishman.;)

Officially, I suppose so, but he always says he's an Englishman and a Geordie.  Being born in a certain place shouldn't determine nationality, it's purely an accident of birth and where your birth is registered.  If I was born in China I wouldn't say I was Chinese!  ;)
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Post by: Darling Pretty on July 29, 2012, 10:03:19 AM
Gator Blood for Opener 2013!!!

Very cool song with Power.
Perfect for Opening.
Need the full version
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 29, 2012, 10:44:14 AM
...and just listen to the deep sounding and absolute cool rhythm guitar part on Don't Forget Your Hat...

I'm listening to that one with subwoofer-amplified headphones, and it's awesome.
Man, LE, I love your reviews of this album! They make me love the music even more.

Oh thanks! At least there is one who reads it.. . ;D  ;D

There is a lot of blues on the new album, yes. But it grooves SO HARD. That crazy rhythm section just beats me out of the room literally. I know now why Danny was rejected. Ian rocks! Danny rocks too, but in his own way, certainly not in the blues. It's hard to listen You Can't Beat a House even after just snippets of P-g. I can listen groovy blues like new ones all day long.

Radio City Serenade - oh, I sing it for two days now and can't help it. Same key as Stand Up Guy and similar feeling. But that a song! Ahhhh, it kills me. I want more!
 
 

Thanks a million for uploading snippets!

+1!! There's blues and there's blues, and this blues I like a lot! For example: EC, great guitarist that he is, his voice never really gave me the impression that he really is a blues man, while JJ Cale has it, and Mark really echoes some JJ stuff here. I don't think I Used To Could is the weakest track like written before, I love it. Repetition and monotony is an integral part of this kind of music, and MK really has had this in his music from day one (Southbound Again). So he hits it perfectly, I would not say he just copies things and has not composed a single note of it himself. Music is feeling over all!

LE

 
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Post by: jbaent on July 29, 2012, 11:01:57 AM
I must confess I only heard the snippets once...

The conclusion I get from listening to them was that I
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Post by: another brother on July 29, 2012, 11:53:28 AM
Hi brother, nice to have you on board and nice you put this review online.

Merci  :)
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Post by: pjh3121 on July 29, 2012, 04:15:26 PM
Gator Blood for Opener 2013!!!

Very cool song with Power.
Perfect for Opening.
Need the full version

It'll probably be the opener followed by What It Is, Sailing to Philadelphia, then Romeo and Juliet etc etc....
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Post by: border_reiver on July 29, 2012, 04:47:45 PM
Gator Blood for Opener 2013!!!

Very cool song with Power.
Perfect for Opening.
Need the full version

It'll probably be the opener followed by What It Is, Sailing to Philadelphia, then Romeo and Juliet etc etc....

And DWB with the usual "you and me Richard"-joke.
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Post by: Maxx on July 29, 2012, 04:59:54 PM
Gator Blood for Opener 2013!!!

Very cool song with Power.
Perfect for Opening.
Need the full version

It'll probably be the opener followed by What It Is, Sailing to Philadelphia, then Romeo and Juliet etc etc....


And DWB with the usual "you and me Richard"-joke.

It's funny, but I think a change is coming along for the '13 tour.
Maybe that was said about the GL tour as well, but now it's gotta happen.
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Post by: Darling Pretty on July 29, 2012, 06:32:28 PM


It must happen. It must. It must.
Fans already say: When MK is not changing too much the next tour it will be their last concert visit.
Always the same. And they are right.
Now the band has 20 songs to fit in the concert schedule.
Play 5-6 new ones and it will be cool.
Blues numbers are always nice when played live. They simply rock


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Post by: border_reiver on July 29, 2012, 07:10:55 PM
It will hardly be anybody's last tour but for some, a fresh setlist, may be the difference between seeing three, four or five shows rather than one or maybe two
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Post by: pjh3121 on July 29, 2012, 07:46:41 PM


It must happen. It must. It must.
Fans already say: When MK is not changing too much the next tour it will be their last concert visit.
Always the same. And they are right.
Now the band has 20 songs to fit in the concert schedule.
Play 5-6 new ones and it will be cool.
Blues numbers are always nice when played live. They simply rock




Yes it must. The KTGC and GL tour setlists were almost identical apart from the occasional "Insert new track here" segment. Then finishing up with Speedway at Nazareth, Telegraph Road and Brothers in Arms.

I've had a chance to listen to the samples and it looks like he's largely re-written Before Gas and TV, You Can't Beat The House and The Bug four or five times each. But I like a lot of it and Go Love is a great hark back to the Dire Straits sound, I can imagine it fitting well on Love Over Gold.
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Post by: IrisRose on July 29, 2012, 09:52:32 PM
The sun is always rising somewhere.    If we didn't think so we would be doomed.    Agree with superval.     
I am going to Sacramento.    This is what MK.com sold me:   Row J Section 1.   No better choice.   This is what I got off Ticketmaster:  Row D, Middle section.      So, even though I am not happy with MK.com, I am thrilled to get the Row D seats.    Hope to sell the Row J seats after I pick them up.    Surely they'll let me sell them after I present my id and have my little tickets in my hand.   
I would love to go to Berkeley again.   Love Berkeley.   Love the Greek.  But outdoors on the north Bay, in the last ten days of October?   Way too iffy.   
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Post by: Justme on July 29, 2012, 11:09:31 PM
His phrasing on some of the songs (YTC, GoLo) is very Dylan-early-years. I certainly love it. As he gets more and more into singing, in my view, it adds a lot of depth. I'm sure, twm will like it. :-)

But there seems to be a lot guitar work too, compared to KTGC for example. And I wonder, if you wrote a song like "Brothers In Arms", what else can you do to take it to another level guitarwise?
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Post by: Justme on July 29, 2012, 11:26:53 PM
...and just listen to the deep sounding and absolute cool rhythm guitar part on Don't Forget Your Hat...

I'm listening to that one with subwoofer-amplified headphones, and it's awesome.
Man, LE, I love your reviews of this album! They make me love the music even more.

Oh thanks! At least there is one who reads it.. . ;D  ;D

There is a lot of blues on the new album, yes. But it grooves SO HARD. That crazy rhythm section just beats me out of the room literally. I know now why Danny was rejected. Ian rocks! Danny rocks too, but in his own way, certainly not in the blues. It's hard to listen You Can't Beat a House even after just snippets of P-g. I can listen groovy blues like new ones all day long.

Radio City Serenade - oh, I sing it for two days now and can't help it. Same key as Stand Up Guy and similar feeling. But that a song! Ahhhh, it kills me. I want more!
 
 

Thanks a million for uploading snippets!

+1!! There's blues and there's blues, and this blues I like a lot! For example: EC, great guitarist that he is, his voice never really gave me the impression that he really is a blues man, while JJ Cale has it, and Mark really echoes some JJ stuff here. I don't think I Used To Could is the weakest track like written before, I love it. Repetition and monotony is an integral part of this kind of music, and MK really has had this in his music from day one (Southbound Again). So he hits it perfectly, I would not say he just copies things and has not composed a single note of it himself. Music is feeling over all!

LE

 


I do agree to a certain degree: to me EC follows a quite academic approach to the blues. There is everything in it that you might expect, but it lacks, hm how can I put it, soul perhaps? Don't want to sound disrespectful, I appreciate his talent and his playing!
Oh, and please give Howlin' Wolf a try, (early) John Lee Hooker, Muddy Waters and last but not least Blind Willie Johnson
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 30, 2012, 07:04:48 AM
I will, thanks!!

Oh, and GoLo, I mean the short cut, is nice, as it cannot be GL... So one must get used to all these new song-abbrevations!

And I know now why I like these two mentioned songs so very much - for YTC I fully agree, but on GoLo, FOR ME, he sings pretty much MK usual style...
which I like! There's something nearly magic about this song, can't wait to hear the full version. What guitar did he use here, Les Paul probably? Or was it me who was thinking it could be the same guitar as in Behind With The Rent?  ::)

LE
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Post by: ds1984 on July 30, 2012, 01:54:24 PM
Here we have a deep impact on this album from the Dylan Tour: the Bluestracks. This new album is very american again.

But wasn't the album actualy written and mostly recorded before the Dylan tour?



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Post by: ingridswing on July 30, 2012, 02:01:54 PM
I think almost all of the album was written, recorded and mixed before the Dylan tour. But then another 3/4 of a year went on, MK had some more inspiration and songs and wanted to add some songs.  Just my 2 cents
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 30, 2012, 04:06:09 PM
Yeah, interesting to know which songs were recorded after the tour apart from Haul Away.
The diary page number 5 is starting one day after the tour, and Kim Wilson seemed to have been at
British Grove when the Dylan tour was over. So maybe all the blues tracks were indeed recorded after Mark met Mr. Bob...

LE
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Post by: another brother on July 30, 2012, 04:56:32 PM
Mark had big fun playing the dylan songs on stage, so it is quite clear that he recorded the blues tracks after the tour to bring the energy from stage into an album.
but, indeed, there were more guitar soli on the dylan tracks played live, the guitar player of dylan, charlie saxton, was great, as he played the stuff very dirty and very load. so let
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Post by: superval99 on July 30, 2012, 05:05:56 PM
i loved the maximum volume of dylan very much.


I really hope MK doesn't play with the high volume of the Dylan concerts, because I had to resort to earplugs!   Not good!   :disbelief
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Post by: ingridswing on July 30, 2012, 05:10:00 PM
I really don't hope MK will ever play as loud as Dylan did, my ears are still beeping from it. For the first time in my life I needed earplugs! Some more power ok, but it doesn't need to be that loud.
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Post by: ingridswing on July 30, 2012, 05:10:24 PM
Haha Val, great minds think alike  ;)
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Post by: superval99 on July 30, 2012, 05:12:58 PM
Haha Val, great minds think alike  ;)

 :lol     :lol
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Post by: another brother on July 30, 2012, 05:48:15 PM
i like it  ;D

i must feel the stuff in stomach.

the Shangri La tour was nice in volume, the KTGC tour was far to low on volume, there were viewer that shoutet out "louder" in the arena. except the gig in strasbourg, this one was excellent in sound and volume (because of the perfect venue)

but nothing when i compare the gigs of dire straits, i will never forget the hurrican of PA at the concerts in munich olympic hall on the every street tour.

btw, the loudest concert of mark i ever visited was in stuttgart, killesberg, open air (1996, golden heart) -



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Post by: superval99 on July 30, 2012, 06:02:40 PM
The louder it is doesn't make it better.  

I remember going to a Clapton concert some years ago and it was so loud, I couldn't actually hear the music, because my ears started buzzing and I was praying that the sound tech would turn the volume down.  I didn't have earplugs, so I sat with my fingers in my ears for the entire show.   Even so, I had ringing in my ears for days afterwards.  

Luckily, I was forewarned about Dylan and took earplugs with me.    To me that isn't good sound at all - there has to be a happy medium.    Also with regard to Dylan, I think there was a reason for the loudness - it concealed his terrible guitar-playing!
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Post by: ingridswing on July 30, 2012, 06:15:17 PM
Not to mention his singing  ::)
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Post by: superval99 on July 30, 2012, 06:17:42 PM
And harmonica!   ::)   ;D
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Post by: border_reiver on July 30, 2012, 06:30:58 PM
And harmonica!   ::)   ;D

Oh the memories...

"yada yada yada yaah, mumbly mumbly mmwaah..... *toooooottooototoooooototootoototooooo (inhale) toootoootototooo......."

 ;D
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 30, 2012, 09:05:00 PM
You lot should be happy that Pottel is on a holiday, otherwise you would get your knuckles rapped...

 ;D  ;D

LE
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Post by: vgonis on July 30, 2012, 09:12:41 PM
Holidays? where is the mobile internet, or the ipad? ;D
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Post by: lfblaauw on July 30, 2012, 10:02:05 PM

but nothing when i compare the gigs of dire straits, i will never forget the hurrican of PA at the concerts in munich olympic hall on the every street tour.

The loudest MK/DS gig I've ever attended was during the OES-tour in september 1991. MK en co were playing the Ahoy in Rotterdam and indeed, it was a real 'sound-hurricane'.  But it sounded perfect, one of the best MK/DS gigs I've ever seen and heard. With Planet of New Orleans and Tunnel of Love.

Lars B.
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Post by: ingridswing on July 30, 2012, 10:09:41 PM

but nothing when i compare the gigs of dire straits, i will never forget the hurrican of PA at the concerts in munich olympic hall on the every street tour.

I agree Lars, it sounded perfect and because of that it didnt feel as loud as BD last year.

The loudest MK/DS gig I've ever attended was during the OES-tour in september 1991. MK en co were playing the Ahoy in Rotterdam and indeed, it was a real 'sound-hurricane'.  But it sounded perfect, one of the best MK/DS gigs I've ever seen and heard. With Planet of New Orleans and Tunnel of Love.

Lars B.
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Post by: shangri la 1 on July 30, 2012, 10:43:33 PM
The louder it is doesn't make it better.  

I remember going to a Clapton concert some years ago and it was so loud, I couldn't actually hear the music, because my ears started buzzing and I was praying that the sound tech would turn the volume down.  

30 years after the concert at Adelaide Festival centre during the on location tour, my brother still reminds me of the volume Dires Straits played at that night. His most used quote is "the night that Dire Straits tried to blow the roof off the Festival Centre".
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 30, 2012, 10:49:31 PM
This is really news to me! I always thought DS were famous for their low volume level - in earlier years I mean. Of course you can't do stadium gigs with a low volume level... They were not exactly famous for being that loud, weren't they?

LE
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Post by: Dutchessy on July 30, 2012, 11:18:27 PM
Holidays? where is the mobile internet, or the ipad? ;D

Here it is... Listening the tunes on holiday in austria :)
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Post by: ds1984 on July 30, 2012, 11:21:29 PM
They were not exactly famous for being that loud, weren't they?

LE

Basel 1992 was also famous for their loud sound.
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Post by: foma on July 30, 2012, 11:52:37 PM
As we are talking about volume anyway, can somebody give me a link to an article about MK or DS (I can't recall, but it seems to be old, so it probably about DS) with this words, something like "You can listen Dire Straits from the first row". Really the best compliment I ever heard about DS/MK. I read it million years ago and can't find original since then.
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Post by: Mona Dee on July 31, 2012, 07:26:51 AM
Last year in autumn I have been to the O2-Arena in Hamburg to see MK/BD and we sat very very far away, opposite to the stage  in a quite high row...and it was ok with the volume, but NOT with the sight. Now I plan to buy tickets for his concert in 2013 somewhere closer, maybe in the first 6 rows or so... Is the difference of volume really that big ? I`m  used to hear concerts in small halls so I don`t have the experience...
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Post by: another brother on July 31, 2012, 11:18:43 AM
in front rows you have less volume - because they don
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Post by: superval99 on July 31, 2012, 11:22:04 AM
in front rows you have less volume - because they don
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Post by: jbaent on July 31, 2012, 11:25:50 AM
MK show is perfect when you talk about volume, he cares a lot about it, so dont worry being at first row...

Although some time firsts rows are the worst place bcause of the acoustic of the venues.
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Post by: another brother on July 31, 2012, 11:28:31 AM
Dire Straits was very loud. It was a Rock Show. Or call it, it was "solid rock"

They sometimes had some issues (i remember a very weak gig in the olympic stadium munich, too less PA and bad acoustic) but on the other hand i will never forget Nimes 1992 in france, when all you have in your stomach was in movement, especially at the bass lines of "Private Investigations" - yes, it was a good time , ...

i was in Basel 1992 too, one of the best concerts ever (heavy great versions of The Bug, Sultans, Solid Rock and Telegraph Road)

in todays gigs of MK i often miss bit more bass and drumpower out of the PA - as i remember the Shangri La was mixed live by the same guy who tours with Eric Clapton, it was noticeable as the PA was more set on Rock ...

Best sound is very difficult to achieve in big venues, i was at U2 in Athen 2010 Olympic stadium, the first part was very bad, and the 2nd part was powerful and clear sound, sometimes a miracle what they are doing with the sound - and i will never forget the excellent sound of Pink Floyd...
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Post by: superval99 on July 31, 2012, 11:36:02 AM
If the sound is SO loud that the music cannot be heard, it is not good.   When I saw the Clapton show, that I mentioned earlier, I was really desperate to hear the songs that I loved, but I couldn't hear them because of the extremely high volume!
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Post by: ingridswing on July 31, 2012, 11:43:51 AM
in front rows you have less volume - because they don
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Post by: another brother on July 31, 2012, 11:47:44 AM
i agree, the perfect mix is loud (means you feel the bass and the drums) but clear and not distorted. dylan
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Post by: superval99 on July 31, 2012, 11:53:30 AM
When I go to a concert I want to hear the music in my head, not my stomach!   If I wanted body punishment I would take up boxing or wrestling!    What is the point of going to a concert to hear beautiful music, if it can't be heard!!    ::)   
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Post by: ingridswing on July 31, 2012, 11:57:55 AM
When I go to a concert I want to hear the music in my head, not my stomach!   If I wanted body punishment I would take up boxing or wrestling!    What is the point of going to a concert to hear beautiful music, if it can't be heard!!    ::)   

True Val, if I only want to FEEL bass I go to a hardrockconcert where I don
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Post by: another brother on July 31, 2012, 12:58:51 PM
i did not say "only bass" - but caused by the new technics of PA, the bass is not in the front rows, physically logic. you have more bass in the back of a venue as bass is "extending" through a room, in front rows there can
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Post by: border_reiver on July 31, 2012, 01:10:20 PM
I'm a sucker for first row (about 80% of my MK concerts have been at first row), why?

Because I like the way I actually don't hear the mix but instead the "raw" sound coming from the amps and the instruments, as if they were playing together in the same room. Imho, the true live experience. And being a guitar aficionado I enjoy everytime when I can get as close to MK's legendary guitars as possible   :)

Silly, I know  :P
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Post by: ingridswing on July 31, 2012, 01:13:10 PM
With MK
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Post by: superval99 on July 31, 2012, 01:20:17 PM
I have been front row most times too and I love being there, so close to MK and the band - remember Bournemouth Ingrid?   8)  

I agree with Ingrid - I loved hearing the beautiful quiet parts of songs and also to hear Mark's voice, so soft at times, just barely whispering some lyrics almost to himself.   Those things would be destroyed with blistering sound volume.
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Post by: ingridswing on July 31, 2012, 01:24:35 PM
I have been front row most times too and I love being there, so close to MK and the band - remember Bournemouth Ingrid?   8) 

I agree with Ingrid - I loved hearing the beautiful quiet parts of songs and also to hear Mark's voice, so soft at times, just barely whispering some lyrics almost to himself.   Those things would be destroyed with blistering sound volume.

Bournemouth was great indeed  :D Hope to meet you next year somewhere again. if it all fits into my schedule I will do south England and some RAH
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Post by: superval99 on July 31, 2012, 01:29:09 PM
I have been front row most times too and I love being there, so close to MK and the band - remember Bournemouth Ingrid?   8) 

I agree with Ingrid - I loved hearing the beautiful quiet parts of songs and also to hear Mark's voice, so soft at times, just barely whispering some lyrics almost to himself.   Those things would be destroyed with blistering sound volume.

Bournemouth was great indeed  :D Hope to meet you next year somewhere again. if it all fits into my schedule I will do south England and some RAH

We hope to be at a few, maybe 3/4  RAH shows next time and probably Manchester, so it will be lovely to meet again!   :)
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Post by: ingridswing on July 31, 2012, 01:36:59 PM
Normally (if it
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Post by: Mona Dee on July 31, 2012, 01:47:43 PM
Thanks for so many information. If I understand you correct, a MK-concert in one of the first rows is ok, a MK/BD-concert better in one of the back rows (or earplugs). Leaving the concert before BD starts is not possible for us, because my husband is a big big big BD-Fan....
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Post by: ingridswing on July 31, 2012, 01:50:41 PM
Solution: leave your husband and go for a beer till he shows up again  ;D  ;D
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Post by: Mona Dee on July 31, 2012, 02:14:10 PM
Yes, that`s the idea  ;D
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Post by: goldenheart96 on July 31, 2012, 06:51:52 PM
Here we have a deep impact on this album from the Dylan Tour: the Bluestracks. This new album is very american again.


Oh sure. MK is going bluesy so he must have been inspired by Dylan. Because he is his idol. The legend. Blah blah bah. Give me an effing break!!  >:(
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Post by: ustas on July 31, 2012, 06:54:52 PM
Hi everybody!

Seems like this is a new promo-pic by Fabio Lovino who also took the Shangri-La pictures

http://static.universal-music-services.de/asset_new/279465/195/download/Pressebild-01-2012.jpg




(http://www.mark-knopfler.info/gallery/2012/2012_01.jpg)

hi-res picture (4,4Mb) http://static.universal-music-services.de/asset_new/279595/195/download/c/file.jpg
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Post by: superval99 on July 31, 2012, 07:08:45 PM
Thanks ustas!   This one looks much better than the first - less shiny and more natural-looking.    ;)
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Post by: foma on July 31, 2012, 07:10:16 PM
I can't recognize this guitar on the background, which one it is?  ;D
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Post by: another brother on July 31, 2012, 07:15:44 PM
the picture before was over-sharpened with a fliter in Photoshop from someone

iam a professional photograph too and the pic now is the "real thing", sometimes compression and sharpen filter destroy jpgs very fast -

you can exposure the background in photoshop: there is a painting and a (dark coloured) neck of a guitar

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Post by: xxFordiexx on July 31, 2012, 07:18:28 PM
I see that Privateering has been taken down off itunes!!!! Wonder why. Weird
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Post by: ingridswing on July 31, 2012, 07:47:33 PM
You missed somthing Fordie, I am pretty sure that it is because one of our members has downloaded the snippets  ;D ;D ;D
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Post by: superval99 on July 31, 2012, 07:52:48 PM
Here we have a deep impact on this album from the Dylan Tour: the Bluestracks. This new album is very american again.


Oh sure. MK is going bluesy so he must have been inspired by Dylan. Because he is his idol. The legend. Blah blah bah. Give me an effing break!!  >:(

I am not a fan of Dylan, live, but I do enjoy a lot of his songs and albums, so if MK was so inspired by being with Bob on tour, to write some extra blues songs for "Privateering" I am overjoyed.  It is just what I have wanted him to do for years and from what I have heard from the snippets, they sound great!    For those who do not like blues, there are also some other really beautiful songs on the album - enough to keep most of us happy I would think.    :)
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Post by: JeroenvG on July 31, 2012, 07:58:08 PM
You missed somthing Fordie, I am pretty sure that it is because one of our members has downloaded the snippets  ;D ;D ;D
Sometimes you're the windshield, Sometimes you're the bug. But don't worry, nobody got hurt!
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Post by: border_reiver on July 31, 2012, 08:12:19 PM
Here we have a deep impact on this album from the Dylan Tour: the Bluestracks. This new album is very american again.


Oh sure. MK is going bluesy so he must have been inspired by Dylan. Because he is his idol. The legend. Blah blah bah. Give me an effing break!!  >:(

I am not a fan of Dylan, live, but I do enjoy a lot of his songs and albums, so if MK was so inspired by being with Bob on tour, to write some extra blues songs for "Privateering" I am overjoyed.  It is just what I have wanted him to do for years and from what I have heard from the snippets, they sound great!    For those who do not like blues, there are also some other really beautiful songs on the album - enough to keep most of us happy I would think.    :)

I'm pretty sure all tracks were written "pre-Dylan". I read in an interview right after the release of Golden Heart that MK had always wanted to make a blues album. Guy hinted it big-time with his photo of "How to learn the blues"-book long before the Dylan tours were planned.

I just think we're pretty darn lucky that MK finally did this long awaited project.
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Post by: superval99 on July 31, 2012, 08:18:17 PM
Whether it happened pre or post-Dylan, I am glad it did eventually happen!    :)
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 31, 2012, 08:20:57 PM
I for my part thought there was the Elephant Man in the very left corner of the picture above. Or Jabba the Hutt, not sure!

LE
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Post by: border_reiver on July 31, 2012, 08:33:29 PM
I for my part thought there was the Elephant Man in the very left corner of the picture above. Or Jabba the Hutt, not sure!

LE

Erh, which photo? :)
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Post by: diddywahdiddy on July 31, 2012, 09:46:37 PM
By all means, as long as we all have something to complain about, we should count ourselves lucky.
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Post by: Love Expresso on July 31, 2012, 09:54:15 PM
By all means, as long as we all have something to complain about, we should count ourselves lucky.

I second that. But why exactly?  ;)

If you mean my Jabba Post: Mark is in the RIGHT corner, so I was not complaining about Mark - it was just the white blur in the left that made my imagination going... Mark looks good on this one by the way!

LE
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Post by: Millionaire Blues on July 31, 2012, 10:10:25 PM
Hey everyone...I have just listened to these snippets and I have been reduced to a quivering wreck of emotions.....goosepumps that will not surrender just sitting all over my arms.......dream of the drowned submariner is just the most beautiful thing i have evre heard from Mark.......the rest is very engaging and I can not wait to unwrap these songs further!!!!

MK = The greatest!!!!!

XXX
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Post by: xxFordiexx on July 31, 2012, 10:58:16 PM
You missed somthing Fordie, I am pretty sure that it is because one of our members has downloaded the snippets  ;D ;D ;D

Ah no, I've heard them all, just wanted to hear them again..... lol
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Post by: ingridswing on July 31, 2012, 11:29:44 PM
Send me a PM with your mailaddress and tomorrow morning you will find it
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Post by: xxFordiexx on August 01, 2012, 08:49:28 PM
Send me a PM with your mailaddress and tomorrow morning you will find it

ooh awesome... thank you very much Ingrid  ;D
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Post by: jbaent on August 04, 2012, 11:45:27 AM
As many of you were talking about possible duels guitar-harmonica in the next tour... Just checked The Faboulous Thunderbirds site and Kim Wilson has scheduled some gigs that might happen during the MK tour.

http://www.fabulousthunderbirds.com/tour (http://www.fabulousthunderbirds.com/tour)

Mike Henderson site doesnt say too much right now...

My guess is that harmonica wont be needed  ;D
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Post by: superval99 on August 04, 2012, 12:11:50 PM
According to a post on MK.com, John McCusker is in two minds whether to go on the MK/BD tour.  Apparently he is recording an album with Teenage Fanclub.   I was wondering if his services may not be needed much on this tour.  Maybe Kim Wilson will be there instead -  or maybe not!


From MK.com:

daily paper here in scotland says john mcusker might not do the mk and dylan tour,according to the paper he has to decide whether to tour with mk or work on an album by a band called teenage fanclub,to quote john "i might have to say to bob and mark that i,ll have to leave the tour"
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Post by: jbaent on August 04, 2012, 12:26:23 PM
According to a post on MK.com, John McCusker is in two minds whether to go on the MK/BD tour.  Apparently he is recording an album with Teenage Fanclub.   I was wondering if his services may not be needed much on this tour.  Maybe Kim Wilson will be there instead.


From MK.com:

daily paper here in scotland says john mcusker might not do the mk and dylan tour,according to the paper he has to decide whether to tour with mk or work on an album by a band called teenage fanclub,to quote john "i might have to say to bob and mark that i,ll have to leave the tour"

Kim has a date on October 26th, I cant remember if it coincide with the Dylan tour...

John
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Post by: superval99 on August 04, 2012, 12:35:50 PM
Yes, I agree, I don't like Mike Henderson one bit - he is much too loud and drowns out MK's guitar!   :o

John wasn't on the first couple of concerts on the American tour in 2010, due to visa problems, but the band managed OK without him.   In fact Red Rocks and Charlotte were amongst my favourites from that tour.
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Post by: dmg on August 04, 2012, 01:23:48 PM
Yes, I agree, I don't like Mike Henderson one bit - he is much too loud and drowns out MK's guitar!   :o

John wasn't on the first couple of concerts on the American tour in 2010, due to visa problems, but the band managed OK without him.   In fact Red Rocks and Charlotte were amongst my favourites from that tour.

I think you mean Las Vegas, he was there in Charlotte which was near the end of the tour.

They could always call on Stuart Duncan for a replacement for John.
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Post by: superval99 on August 04, 2012, 01:26:17 PM
Yes, I agree, I don't like Mike Henderson one bit - he is much too loud and drowns out MK's guitar!   :o

John wasn't on the first couple of concerts on the American tour in 2010, due to visa problems, but the band managed OK without him.   In fact Red Rocks and Charlotte were amongst my favourites from that tour.

I think you mean Las Vegas, he was there in Charlotte which was near the end of the tour.

They could always call on Stuart Duncan for a replacement for John.

Yes, sorry, I meant Red Rocks and Vegas!    Anyway Charlotte was another of my favourites!   :)

Stuart Duncan would be fine if John was unavailable!   :)
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Post by: Rolleyway Man on August 04, 2012, 08:10:14 PM
Stuart Duncan was terrific on the All the Roadrunning tour and his solo on Red Staggerwing was something else. Would have no complaints about him rejoining the line-up, though I absolutely love MK's current line-up.  They've all been great line-ups in the grand scheme of things.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Love Expresso on August 04, 2012, 08:13:35 PM
John McCusker is only questioning the Bob tour, i understand? For the 2013 "full" MK tour he obviously will be available... I hope I will see him again, he is a very good addition with a lot of power and energy for MK's band...

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Pottel on August 05, 2012, 12:32:04 AM
Dire Straits was very loud. It was a Rock Show. Or call it, it was "solid rock"

They sometimes had some issues (i remember a very weak gig in the olympic stadium munich, too less PA and bad acoustic) but on the other hand i will never forget Nimes 1992 in france, when all you have in your stomach was in movement, especially at the bass lines of "Private Investigations" - yes, it was a good time , ...

i was in Basel 1992 too, one of the best concerts ever (heavy great versions of The Bug, Sultans, Solid Rock and Telegraph Road)

in todays gigs of MK i often miss bit more bass and drumpower out of the PA - as i remember the Shangri La was mixed live by the same guy who tours with Eric Clapton, it was noticeable as the PA was more set on Rock ...

Best sound is very difficult to achieve in big venues, i was at U2 in Athen 2010 Olympic stadium, the first part was very bad, and the 2nd part was powerful and clear sound, sometimes a miracle what they are doing with the sound - and i will never forget the excellent sound of Pink Floyd...
the floyd in 94 had the best sound i ever experienced (especially considering the fact that i was on a windy field with 70.000 others) but Marky comes close.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Pottel on August 05, 2012, 12:33:22 AM
Holidays? where is the mobile internet, or the ipad? ;D
holiday...is holiday amigo :-)
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Post by: Love Expresso on August 05, 2012, 11:15:41 AM
Must have been the longest holidays known to mankind...

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: jbaent on August 05, 2012, 11:22:09 AM
Must have been the longest holidays known to mankind...

LE

He has a Dylan/Knopfler tour to cover in some months, he needed that holydays...

 ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: ds1984 on August 05, 2012, 04:10:33 PM
As many of you were talking about possible duels guitar-harmonica in the next tour... Just checked The Faboulous Thunderbirds site and Kim Wilson has scheduled some gigs that might happen during the MK tour.

http://www.fabulousthunderbirds.com/tour (http://www.fabulousthunderbirds.com/tour)

Mike Henderson site doesnt say too much right now...

My guess is that harmonica wont be needed  ;D

Next tour means "2013" for me (The BD thing is just an apetizer)  ;)

Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: holaknopfler on August 07, 2012, 12:01:25 AM
It's in Dutch itunes now.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: jbaent on August 07, 2012, 12:18:46 AM
It's in Dutch itunes now.

Just the samples or all the record?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: holaknopfler on August 07, 2012, 12:25:06 AM
It's in Dutch itunes now.

Just the samples or all the record?

Samples and pre-order. Would be great if the full record was on it haha!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: jbaent on August 07, 2012, 12:26:20 AM
It's in Dutch itunes now.

Just the samples or all the record?

Samples and pre-order. Would be great if the full record was on it haha!

MK.com did it with Get Lucky, who knows!!!!

 ;D ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: lfblaauw on August 13, 2012, 02:27:21 PM

The loudest MK/DS gig I've ever attended was during the OES-tour in september 1991. MK en co were playing the Ahoy in Rotterdam and indeed, it was a real 'sound-hurricane'.  But it sounded perfect, one of the best MK/DS gigs I've ever seen and heard. With Planet of New Orleans and Tunnel of Love.


Speaking about 'sound-hurricanes', here's an article titled 'Loud rock music wrecked my hearing, says Dire Straits star... Now iPod generation is at risk'.  You can read it at: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/health/article-1202105/Loud-rock-music-wrecked-hearing-says-Dire-Straits-star--Now-iPod-generation-risk.html

Regards,
Lars B.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Mona Dee on August 13, 2012, 09:25:26 PM
Interesting article, especially because I
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: El Macho on August 17, 2012, 09:13:59 AM
There are also snippets on amazon.co.uk.
They're shorter but they start a little earlier in the songs !
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Pottel on August 17, 2012, 10:39:14 AM
so maybe some hardcore get-a-lifer could grab those and paste them to the Itunes snippets, so the snippet becomes longer?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: ingridswing on August 17, 2012, 10:42:37 AM
I like that idea Pottel, is there a get-a-lifer in here who is technical and can organize this ?
I think it never happened before in internet-age that 13 days before release in Germany and Netherlands there's still no complete leak. So Pottel: we can make our plans to join Jeroen with listening the full album on the first of September!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: jbaent on August 17, 2012, 10:43:06 AM
so maybe some hardcore get-a-lifer could grab those and paste them to the Itunes snippets, so the snippet becomes longer?

Your mind is always faster than mine, Voldemor...

Its a nice idea, I hope someone does it  ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: holaknopfler on August 17, 2012, 10:53:57 AM
I can do it:-) But it will be tommorow evening when it is done. I'm in Austria for holiday now, leaving tommorow. I will put it in dropbox and paste the link here!

Lars
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: ingridswing on August 17, 2012, 11:01:19 AM
You are crazy Lars  :D But IF you are really doing this I think Pottel needs to add an extra name (not because of posts but because of a real get-a-lifer-status)  ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: jbaent on August 17, 2012, 11:06:08 AM
Does it really worth the effort? I mean, if that part really adds something to what he already had or not...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: holaknopfler on August 17, 2012, 11:10:07 AM
You are crazy Lars  :D But IF you are really doing this I think Pottel needs to add an extra name (not because of posts but because of a real get-a-lifer-status)  ;D
I'm not THAT crazy that I cancel my holiday for that! The date of leaving was already planned for tommorow hahaha! Downloading samples as we speak..

And Pottel: If you add that extra name I'll buy you a beer (or two) if you come to Holland seeing MK next year!  ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: ingridswing on August 17, 2012, 11:14:37 AM
LOL Lars, Pottel will come for sure I suppose, his room is always ready in my home, and meatballs, beer, G&T will be provided as well  :P
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: holaknopfler on August 17, 2012, 11:24:45 AM
LOL Lars, Pottel will come for sure I suppose, his room is always ready in my home, and meatballs, beer, G&T will be provided as well  :P

That'll be fun I think:D

The snippets are gone or I'm looking wrong.. Somebody got a link?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Rail King on August 17, 2012, 11:25:54 AM
I like that idea Pottel, is there a get-a-lifer in here who is technical and can organize this ?
I think it never happened before in internet-age that 13 days before release in Germany and Netherlands there's still no complete leak. So Pottel: we can make our plans to join Jeroen with listening the full album on the first of September!

Yes, it's amazing that there's no leak yet. But, believe it or not, the same seems to be true for Bob Dylan's "Tempest". Now if THAT doesn't leak, then they really found a way of preventing it altogether. No idea how that should work, but it looks like it does ...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: JeroenvG on August 17, 2012, 11:49:41 AM
Here is a 15 seconds longer "Yon Two Crows!" So now we it from start Till 1.44 minutes  ;D

http://papavan.irisvangils.nl/files/2012/08/More-Yon-Two-Crows.mp3 (http://papavan.irisvangils.nl/files/2012/08/More-Yon-Two-Crows.mp3)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Dutchessy on August 17, 2012, 06:59:17 PM
I can do it:-) But it will be tommorow evening when it is done. I'm in Austria for holiday now, leaving tommorow. I will put it in dropbox and paste the link here!

Lars

I'm in Austria too :D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: holaknopfler on August 17, 2012, 07:24:41 PM
I can do it:-) But it will be tommorow evening when it is done. I'm in Austria for holiday now, leaving tommorow. I will put it in dropbox and paste the link here!

Lars

I'm in Austria too :D
Nice where?:D I'm in Vorarlberg, Bregenzerwald!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Dutchessy on August 17, 2012, 08:04:02 PM
I can do it:-) But it will be tommorow evening when it is done. I'm in Austria for holiday now, leaving tommorow. I will put it in dropbox and paste the link here!

Lars

I'm in Austria too :D
Nice where?:D I'm in Vorarlberg, Bregenzerwald!

4 weeks Tirol. Tomorrow going home!

1 week Juns, Zillertal
1 week C1 cursus Vent (Wildspitze (3774m) beklommen!!, 1na hoogste berg Oostenrijk)
2 weken Fulpmes, Stubaital
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: holaknopfler on August 17, 2012, 08:06:33 PM
I can do it:-) But it will be tommorow evening when it is done. I'm in Austria for holiday now, leaving tommorow. I will put it in dropbox and paste the link here!

Lars

I'm in Austria too :D

Te gek! Ik ga ook morgen naar huis, wie weet dat we elkaar nog treffen hahaha!

Great! I'm leaving as well tommorow, maybe we'll see each other on the road! ;D

Now everybody can learn Dutch ;D
Nice where?:D I'm in Vorarlberg, Bregenzerwald!

4 weeks Tirol. Tomorrow going home!

1 week Juns, Zillertal
1 week C1 cursus Vent (Wildspitze (3774m) beklommen!!, 1na hoogste berg Oostenrijk)
2 weken Fulpmes, Stubaital
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Dutchessy on August 17, 2012, 08:56:11 PM
I can do it:-) But it will be tommorow evening when it is done. I'm in Austria for holiday now, leaving tommorow. I will put it in dropbox and paste the link here!

Lars

I'm in Austria too :D

Te gek! Ik ga ook morgen naar huis, wie weet dat we elkaar nog treffen hahaha!

Great! I'm leaving as well tommorow, maybe we'll see each other on the road! ;D

Now everybody can learn Dutch ;D
Nice where?:D I'm in Vorarlberg, Bregenzerwald!

4 weeks Tirol. Tomorrow going home!

1 week Juns, Zillertal
1 week C1 cursus Vent (Wildspitze (3774m) beklommen!!, 1na hoogste berg Oostenrijk)
2 weken Fulpmes, Stubaital

We are leaving 5.30 in the morning. Grens over bij Kufstein, jullie een stuk westelijker, dus vast ook andere route door Duitsland.
Have a good trip home Lars!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: holaknopfler on August 17, 2012, 09:01:49 PM
I can do it:-) But it will be tommorow evening when it is done. I'm in Austria for holiday now, leaving tommorow. I will put it in dropbox and paste the link here!

Lars

I'm in Austria too :D

Te gek! Ik ga ook morgen naar huis, wie weet dat we elkaar nog treffen hahaha!

Great! I'm leaving as well tommorow, maybe we'll see each other on the road! ;D

Now everybody can learn Dutch ;D
Nice where?:D I'm in Vorarlberg, Bregenzerwald!

4 weeks Tirol. Tomorrow going home!

1 week Juns, Zillertal
1 week C1 cursus Vent (Wildspitze (3774m) beklommen!!, 1na hoogste berg Oostenrijk)
2 weken Fulpmes, Stubaital

We are leaving 5.30 in the morning. Grens over bij Kufstein, jullie een stuk westelijker, dus vast ook andere route door Duitsland.
Have a good trip home Lars!

We the same time! But indeed, a different route through Germany so chances are very small that we'll meet;-) Good trip for you also mister!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Love Expresso on August 17, 2012, 09:13:22 PM
Jesus, this is torture! These extra seconds from amazon.co.uk on Go, Love give me the goosebumps again... 

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Dutchessy on August 17, 2012, 09:34:40 PM
Jesus, this is torture! These extra seconds from amazon.co.uk on Go, Love give me the goosebumps again... 

LE

Where where where? Link please!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Love Expresso on August 17, 2012, 09:40:16 PM
It is just a few seconds...

Amazon.co.uk, but you have to choose the mp3-download version, there you can listen to the usual amazon snippets (30 sec.). The normal album versions do not have snippets yet.

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Dutchessy on August 17, 2012, 09:42:44 PM
http://www.amazon.co.uk/Privateering/dp/B008YQP5O8/ref=sr_1_13?ie=UTF8&qid=1345232011&sr=8-13
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Post by: Love Expresso on August 17, 2012, 09:43:40 PM
 ;D

LE
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Post by: Dutchessy on August 17, 2012, 09:46:36 PM
All songs are partly new parts we didn't have heard yet ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Dutchessy on August 17, 2012, 09:51:49 PM
Wow, dream of the drowned submariner. Beautiful melodic voice! My favourite of the album i think...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: dmg on August 18, 2012, 11:54:46 AM
All songs are partly new parts we didn't have heard yet ;D

Maybe if we join them up to the iTunes samples we will have the whole song! :D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Pottel on August 18, 2012, 11:56:31 AM
All songs are partly new parts we didn't have heard yet ;D

Maybe if we join them up to the iTunes samples we will have the whole song! :D
dudes! Did I not propose exactly that?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: dmg on August 18, 2012, 12:00:38 PM
All songs are partly new parts we didn't have heard yet ;D

Maybe if we join them up to the iTunes samples we will have the whole song! :D
dudes! Did I not propose exactly that?

Sorry, I must have missed your post! :o
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Pottel on August 18, 2012, 12:02:34 PM
 :lol
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: localhero1986 on August 18, 2012, 03:46:58 PM
Nice additional snippets, but eh, check first seconds of Seattle... Nobody's got the gun feeling! ;D

Cutting and pasting the samples is possible, but it only adds 15 seconds. I've made three of them but honestly, I ask myself what the f*ck am I doing? ;D :lol
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Mona Dee on August 18, 2012, 06:50:47 PM
I just read at amazon.de,  that the 5 live songs  (3rd cd of P limited deluxe edition ) are recorded at Music Bank London in 2011....I googled and read, that it is a rehearsal studio..so no live-atmosphere ?!?!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: jbaent on August 18, 2012, 06:52:39 PM
I just read at amazon.de,  that the 5 live songs  (3rd cd of P limited deluxe edition ) are recorded at Music Bank London in 2011....I googled and read, that it is a rehearsal studio..so no live-atmosphere ?!?!

I think it was on some place that those 5 songs were unmixed rehearsals takes... Maybe you got confuse with the live download that comes with the box.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Mona Dee on August 18, 2012, 06:55:03 PM
Ah yes, maybe....but amazon says :

1. Why Aye Man (Live From Music Bank London/2011) 
2. Cleaning My Gun (Live From Music Bank London/2011) 
3. Corned Beef City (Live From Music Bank London/2011) 
4. Sailing To Philadelphia (Live From Music Bank London/2011) 
5. Hill Farmer's Blues (Live From Music Bank London/2011) 

LIVE and not unmixed...that why I`m confused...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: jbaent on August 18, 2012, 06:58:10 PM
I see why the confussion...

Before it didnt say anything about Live from..., actually it only had the title tracks and this: (unmixed 2 tracks)

In some sites of Amazon, and I think in mk.com as well it said "Live rehearsals".

This is totally new from me, I never thought about the location of the rehearsals but its logic, they rehearse at that place from long ago...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Pottel on August 18, 2012, 07:33:37 PM
i love live rehearsals. this is the firsttime mark has given us something like that ("not finished" "not the perfect product")
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: dmg on August 18, 2012, 07:37:01 PM
i love live rehearsals. this is the firsttime mark has given us something like that ("not finished" "not the perfect product")

I'm the same as you - I'm really looking forward to hearing these, as much as the new songs!  In a different way, of course.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Love Expresso on August 18, 2012, 09:01:54 PM
i love live rehearsals. this is the firsttime mark has given us something like that ("not finished" "not the perfect product")

I remember hearing some rehearsal stuff during the radio promo for Golden Heart in 1996. Remember The Bug, and Imelda Live... Sounded great and I seem to remember that I read somewhere it was "live from the rehearsals"...

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Pottel on August 18, 2012, 09:08:00 PM
i love live rehearsals. this is the firsttime mark has given us something like that ("not finished" "not the perfect product")

Alchemy 1983 was unchanged too
i specifically mean "rehearsal" not the fact that they are unchanged. releasing rehearsals is like releasing (officially) demo's imho.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Fletch on August 19, 2012, 12:41:37 AM
i love live rehearsals. this is the firsttime mark has given us something like that ("not finished" "not the perfect product")

I'm the same as you - I'm really looking forward to hearing these, as much as the new songs!  In a different way, of course.

Yeah, these tracks could be really cool. Lord knows, we may even hear the band mucking around, trying different things. I'm hopeful, or else why bother?
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Post by: localhero1986 on August 19, 2012, 03:22:16 PM
Live performance without audience shouting and screaming. Awesome! :lol
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Post by: JF on August 20, 2012, 02:55:12 PM
i love live rehearsals. this is the firsttime mark has given us something like that ("not finished" "not the perfect product")

Alchemy 1983 was unchanged too


Except the end of Solid rock.....
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Jarle on August 20, 2012, 03:53:12 PM
Redbud Tree and Privateering are available on Spotify in Norway today :)
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Post by: holaknopfler on August 20, 2012, 06:32:59 PM
You can buy Privateering here, single track!

http://www.mega-media.nl/info.php?lid=679687

I bought it, it's an 15mb mp3 in 320 kbps and the quality is AWESOME!

GO, LOVE! BUY BUY BUY!

 ;D ;D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: holaknopfler on August 20, 2012, 06:33:34 PM
And Redbud Tree in the same high quality!!

http://www.mega-media.nl/info.php?lid=679690
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Post by: jbaent on August 20, 2012, 06:36:37 PM
price?

is it open for foreigner buyers?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: holaknopfler on August 20, 2012, 06:39:21 PM
0,99, you can pay with all sorts of things, e.g mastercard paypal and visa is quite international so I think yes!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Maxx on August 20, 2012, 06:40:26 PM
On Spotify now as well;

http://open.spotify.com/track/1UVmyyGS72EGldZx3vmjtl
http://open.spotify.com/track/6EGpSqNNsn3um0SqyBfhdt
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: JeroenvG on August 20, 2012, 08:16:52 PM
Got this image from Universal together with the Redbud Tree single :

(http://allesmuziek.files.wordpress.com/2012/08/4.jpg)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: holaknopfler on August 20, 2012, 08:20:45 PM
Nice! 31 august comes closer, and closer, and closer.. :)
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Post by: dmg on August 21, 2012, 12:53:43 PM
No expense spared for the Redbud Tree cover then! :lol
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Silvertown on August 21, 2012, 01:00:44 PM
No expense spared for the Redbud Tree cover then! :lol

Yeah, surely doesn
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: border_reiver on August 21, 2012, 02:39:46 PM
On Spotify now as well;

http://open.spotify.com/track/1UVmyyGS72EGldZx3vmjtl
http://open.spotify.com/track/6EGpSqNNsn3um0SqyBfhdt

Sounds great in 320 kbps and loudspeakers!  :D
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Guitarman1972 on August 23, 2012, 08:05:17 PM
Some other samples of the album:
http://soundcloud.com/mercury-records/sets/mark-knopfler-privateering/s-D6ghu
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: jbaent on August 23, 2012, 08:11:25 PM
Some other samples of the album:
http://soundcloud.com/mercury-records/sets/mark-knopfler-privateering/s-D6ghu

Cant listen to them from where I am, are any different to the ones we already know?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Guitarman1972 on August 23, 2012, 08:17:19 PM
Yes, Go Love, Hot or What and Seattle from the beginning.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Love Expresso on August 23, 2012, 08:35:24 PM
Yes, very cool, Hot or What reminds very much of "You Can't Beat The House".

And the SOUND of all of them is really great!

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Dutchessy on August 23, 2012, 08:43:11 PM
Yes, very cool, Hot or What reminds very much of "You Can't Beat The House".

And the SOUND of all of them is really great!

LE

Hot or what very similar to Millionaire Blues
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: a visitor on August 23, 2012, 09:34:09 PM
Listened to the new teasers via the email from markknopfler.com, and Go Love and Seattle sound fantastic. My only gripe is that I wish he'd played a silky-smooth Stratocaster on Go Love instead of the honky Les Paul.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: dmg on August 23, 2012, 10:00:34 PM
Go, Love seems a very average, boring song to me.  I must say, from what I've heard, that I do like Hot or What and Seattle.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Dutchessy on August 23, 2012, 10:05:29 PM
I like go, love the most of these new samples.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Love Expresso on August 23, 2012, 10:05:53 PM
Go, Love is, for me, one of the best songs MK has done in years...  :lol EVERYTHING is great, the intro, the very first notes, the keys, the organ, the guitar, the voice, the lyrics, the melody.... ....  :)

Funny how different is musical taste!

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: localhero1986 on August 23, 2012, 10:21:33 PM
Jup, it's a nice song. Now I have made my own Go, love. At the moment I collected (well, actually cut and paste) snippets and made a 'song' out of it. Got the first 2:15!!! ;D Can't wait for the rest.

Unfortunately someone drove into my car (well, not even mine actually) lately, got to have it fixed first so probably have to wait for a copy of the album after September 24th...... :'( :'( :'(
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Mona Dee on August 23, 2012, 11:18:12 PM
Go, Love is, for me, one of the best songs MK has done in years...  :lol EVERYTHING is great, the intro, the very first notes, the keys, the organ, the guitar, the voice, the lyrics, the melody.... ....  :)

Funny how different is musical taste!

LE

I like the song, too, but am not sure about the lyrics. It seems to me, as if he comes and goes like he wants to, and she is "leaning against his collar" and waits and waits.... hmm, if my husband would come only to leave again...well, I`m not sure if I like that (and that`s understated) ;-) ...
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Post by: Guitarman1972 on August 23, 2012, 11:22:01 PM
That is great localhero1986! Now you only have 2:37 to get for the whole song.  :P
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: El Macho on August 23, 2012, 11:40:28 PM
Go Love 's got a very nice intro! It'll be one of my favorites!
Seattle's intro is nice too!
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: ingridswing on August 23, 2012, 11:44:26 PM
@localhero we will solve that problem next week, you will hear it anyway. Send me PM to work it out  ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Love Expresso on August 24, 2012, 07:11:05 AM
I like the song, too, but am not sure about the lyrics. It seems to me, as if he comes and goes like he wants to, and she is "leaning against his collar" and waits and waits.... hmm, if my husband would come only to leave again...well, I`m not sure if I like that (and that`s understated) ;-) ...

"Kiss me once and I'll be gone..." is a line from one of my all time favourite MK songs, The Long Highway, and I think it is also about restlessness and loyalty... I had problems first with the sentence itself, "Go, Love, if you're going".... but then I think I solved the "illogic" in it by reading the whole line,
"Go, Love, if you're going, I'll be here when you come back".

Do you think that's right?

About the collar: Very athmosperic, I really see a harbour and the weather is bad, rain or wind, and it is still dark (early in the morning), well, the music sounds this way, and he is maybe a soldier or sailor (or both), and they are about to bid farewell. So she leans into his collar a last time before he goes aboard ship....


 ;)

LE
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Mona Dee on August 24, 2012, 08:07:33 AM
I like the song, too, but am not sure about the lyrics. It seems to me, as if he comes and goes like he wants to, and she is "leaning against his collar" and waits and waits.... hmm, if my husband would come only to leave again...well, I`m not sure if I like that (and that`s understated) ;-) ...

"Kiss me once and I'll be gone..." is a line from one of my all time favourite MK songs, The Long Highway, and I think it is also about restlessness and loyalty... I had problems first with the sentence itself, "Go, Love, if you're going".... but then I think I solved the "illogic" in it by reading the whole line,
"Go, Love, if you're going, I'll be here when you come back".

Do you think that's right?

About the collar: Very athmosperic, I really see a harbour and the weather is bad, rain or wind, and it is still dark (early in the morning), well, the music sounds this way, and he is maybe a soldier or sailor (or both), and they are about to bid farewell. So she leans into his collar a last time before he goes aboard ship....


 ;)

LE

First : it is absolute athmosperic, no doubt ! I had only problems with the left woman, who can only wait until he decides to come back...that was my impression first...but after reading it again , I found out, that "If that's the way it's got to be" can mean, he isn`t free to decide, he has to go (i.e job --- making shows, to satisfy the AMIT-people  ;) )
 
Do you mean it`s not only him who goes now and then, but her as well ? "Go, Love, if you're going, I'll be here when you come back".  So he is waiting , too....or it
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: arabia on August 24, 2012, 08:27:20 AM
NICE!!

Just discovered this, now I have two albums I'm REALLY looking forward to buying in early September.
Like Bluebird best on first listen, reminds me of one of my fav MK tunes, Baloney Again.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Rail King on August 24, 2012, 09:26:03 AM
Something like "Hot or What" is nice to have, who wouldn't like it? But songs like "Seattle" are something else. Just this intro gives me goosebumps. You hear just a line or two, and you're instantly reminded why you adore Mr. Knopfler so much: He's just an INCREDIBLE songwriter. Fantastic.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Fletch on August 24, 2012, 09:56:10 AM
Some songs just grab you straight away - reminds me of the first time I heard Sands Of Nevada, made me think, "wow" instantly.
I've refrained from the preview listens (apart from Redbud and Privateering), but you guys are getting me real excited about bringing the deluxe set home! ;D
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Post by: MisterYES on August 24, 2012, 12:40:53 PM
Do you people hear in "Go, Love" something like almost slight volume overdrive at some parts?

There is some nice background noise also in general, but that's not it.

Particularly when Mark sing "returning" word...either I listening iTunes samples, or some others at different qualities or though out different kinds of speakers and headphones, that song always seems to have a slight clipping, to me at least.

Anyone else noticed?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Guitarman1972 on August 24, 2012, 01:53:19 PM
MisterYES i ain't gonna pay attention much when it comes to these kind of things. With the compression and ripping of songs to PC so much can be f'ed up that you could hear allkinds of distortions, which might not on the discs at all. So I shouldn't waiste time on such matters at this stage if I were you.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Jasper90 on August 24, 2012, 02:15:12 PM
And now, we have a picture of the back cover ;D

(http://www.bps4m.nl/images/carrousel/fullsize/0602537043217_back.jpg)

From Freerecordshop.nl :D http://www.freerecordshop.nl/muziek/privateering-mark-knopfler-0602537043217 (http://www.freerecordshop.nl/muziek/privateering-mark-knopfler-0602537043217)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: dmg on August 24, 2012, 02:22:38 PM
Not complaining but I like when the tracks are numbered.  It helps if you want to go to a particular track and need to punch in the number to your CD player.  As it is here, one will have to count every time! ::)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Jasper90 on August 24, 2012, 02:26:25 PM
oh

so it was from a shop, not a private copy :)

If I had it I would share it with you all ofcourse. I wish I had the album in my hands but unfortunately, I've not haha :P.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: ingridswing on August 24, 2012, 02:27:11 PM
Not complaining but I like when the tracks are numbered.  It helps if you want to go to a particular track and need to punch in the number to your CD player.  As it is here, one will have to count every time! ::)

+1
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Rail King on August 24, 2012, 02:44:12 PM
Nice! This album has Mark's best artwork to date, in my opinion. Surprised by the GB sticker, though, since many of the songs have such a southern (US) feeling. I expected that van to be parked somewhere down in Alabama ...
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Dutchessy on August 24, 2012, 02:46:20 PM
Also nice snippets at that site
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: dmg on August 24, 2012, 02:56:16 PM
Nice! This album has Mark's best artwork to date, in my opinion. Surprised by the GB sticker, though, since many of the songs have such a southern (US) feeling. I expected that van to be parked somewhere down in Alabama ...

Funny how tastes differ because not only do I think this is Mark's worst artwork to date but I think it's possibly the worst of anyone!  Dated, unoriginal, uninspiring, boring, unattractive and not even practical. Eeew, yuk!
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Post by: superval99 on August 24, 2012, 03:23:58 PM
Nice! This album has Mark's best artwork to date, in my opinion. Surprised by the GB sticker, though, since many of the songs have such a southern (US) feeling. I expected that van to be parked somewhere down in Alabama ...

Funny how tastes differ because not only do I think this is Mark's worst artwork to date but I think it's possibly the worst of anyone!  Dated, unoriginal, uninspiring, boring, unattractive and not even practical. Eeew, yuk!

I take it you don't like it then, dmg!    ;D
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Post by: Fletch on August 24, 2012, 03:30:21 PM
I like the artwork, and even the 'plain' vinyl sleeves look stylish to my eye. It all in the beholder.

Yeah I don't know how a GB sticker ended up on a van that's full of Americana songs!!! :)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: a visitor on August 24, 2012, 03:36:24 PM
I know the snippets were taken off from iTunes, but now they're back up again. Anyone know when that happened?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: superval99 on August 24, 2012, 03:40:15 PM
I think the artwork, particularly of the super deluxe box set, is beautiful.  I love the colours and the rusty-looking effect on the vinyl sleeves - makes me almost want to buy it!   ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: a visitor on August 24, 2012, 03:46:18 PM
Like the artwork, but a bit Ragpicker's Dream redux?
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: dmg on August 24, 2012, 03:53:12 PM
Nice! This album has Mark's best artwork to date, in my opinion. Surprised by the GB sticker, though, since many of the songs have such a southern (US) feeling. I expected that van to be parked somewhere down in Alabama ...

Funny how tastes differ because not only do I think this is Mark's worst artwork to date but I think it's possibly the worst of anyone!  Dated, unoriginal, uninspiring, boring, unattractive and not even practical. Eeew, yuk!

I take it you don't like it then, dmg!    ;D

I got my message across then!

I was just thinking that upon it's release and when it's in the record shops on the new releases wall, will it really stand out?  I don't think so, and the cover wouldn't inspire me to buy it if I weren't a fan either.

The autumn colours and broken-down van suggest to me words like weary, fatigued, restful, sedate, dilapidated...  Words that would entice me to buy would be exactly the opposite of these adjectives but that cover just puts the wrong words into my mind and isn't really a representation of the album contents either.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: holaknopfler on August 24, 2012, 04:42:37 PM
I've found some samples from Mercury on Soundcloud: http://soundcloud.com/mercury-records/sets/mark-knopfler-privateering/s-D6ghu
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: Guitarman1972 on August 24, 2012, 05:25:31 PM
Lars where did you find them? On page 57 of this thread?  :lol
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: holaknopfler on August 24, 2012, 05:36:34 PM
Lars where did you find them? On page 57 of this thread?  :lol

Oops. ;D

You boys and girls are posting so much that I can't keep up with it! hahaha
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Post by: tunnel85 on August 24, 2012, 05:44:35 PM
Nice! This album has Mark's best artwork to date, in my opinion. Surprised by the GB sticker, though, since many of the songs have such a southern (US) feeling. I expected that van to be parked somewhere down in Alabama ...

Funny how tastes differ because not only do I think this is Mark's worst artwork to date but I think it's possibly the worst of anyone!  Dated, unoriginal, uninspiring, boring, unattractive and not even practical. Eeew, yuk!
This time I have to say I love the artwork. I'm very surprised because usually Salvador Lavado's work is a disaster.
That one is very elegant and very very inspiring. It has a great potential for the upcoming live recording artworks.  ;)
Night and day with KTGC and GL awful red tones.
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Post by: tunnel85 on August 24, 2012, 05:49:42 PM
Lars where did you find them? On page 57 of this thread?  :lol

Oops. ;D

You boys and girls are posting so much that I can't keep up with it! hahaha
Can you imagine how busy it will be in a week ? We're all gonna reach Dutchessy in Gold member club.  ;D
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Post by: JeroenvG on August 24, 2012, 06:02:52 PM
Those soundclOud samples are great. I only wonder why they choose this samples and not the whole cd.
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: holaknopfler on August 24, 2012, 06:09:58 PM
Lars where did you find them? On page 57 of this thread?  :lol

Oops. ;D

You boys and girls are posting so much that I can't keep up with it! hahaha
Can you imagine how busy it will be in a week ? We're all gonna reach Dutchessy in Gold member club.  ;D

Hahaha.. Can I order my VIP card please? ;D
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Post by: Rail King on August 24, 2012, 06:47:07 PM
Nice! This album has Mark's best artwork to date, in my opinion. Surprised by the GB sticker, though, since many of the songs have such a southern (US) feeling. I expected that van to be parked somewhere down in Alabama ...

Funny how tastes differ because not only do I think this is Mark's worst artwork to date but I think it's possibly the worst of anyone!  Dated, unoriginal, uninspiring, boring, unattractive and not even practical. Eeew, yuk!

Hahaha, how funny. But no matter how much we disagree: Rest assured this can't possibly be the worst art work ever. Just have a look at Dylan's newest, and you'll know why!  :lol
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: JeroenvG on August 24, 2012, 06:53:22 PM
Those soundclOud samples are great. I only wonder why they choose this samples and not the whole cd.

Record labels usually don't give away whole records for free

I mean samples fr
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: dmg on August 24, 2012, 07:02:00 PM
Nice! This album has Mark's best artwork to date, in my opinion. Surprised by the GB sticker, though, since many of the songs have such a southern (US) feeling. I expected that van to be parked somewhere down in Alabama ...

Funny how tastes differ because not only do I think this is Mark's worst artwork to date but I think it's possibly the worst of anyone!  Dated, unoriginal, uninspiring, boring, unattractive and not even practical. Eeew, yuk!

Hahaha, how funny. But no matter how much we disagree: Rest assured this can't possibly be the worst art work ever. Just have a look at Dylan's newest, and you'll know why!  :lol

It's not great but it's much better than MK's! 

I do hope SD isn't looking in. :-X  No offence if you are, it's just my taste!
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Post by: Dutchessy on August 24, 2012, 07:22:53 PM
Those soundclOud samples are great. I only wonder why they choose this samples and not the whole cd.

Yeah, why not putting the complete cd in soundcloud? :lol  Always complaining :disbelief  ;)
Title: Re: MARK KNOPFLER - NEW ALBUM PRIVATEERING 'SPOILER' itunes
Post by: JeroenvG on August 24, 2012, 08:11:36 PM
Those soundclOud samples are great. I only wonder why they choose this samples and not the whole cd.

Yeah, why not putting the complete cd in soundcloud? :lol  Always complaining :disbelief  ;)

Not complaining. I mean why not put samples from the whole cd on soundcloud instead of 6.

Don't want the whole cd on soundcloud. Will wait for next Friday to hear it complete.