A Mark In Time

Previous Tours => 2010 Get Lucky Tour => Topic started by: jbaent on April 14, 2010, 04:33:19 PM

Title: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: jbaent on April 14, 2010, 04:33:19 PM
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tJCCuDKuaRM

Mark used to play the same intro for Donegan
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: Pottel on April 14, 2010, 11:53:02 PM
and still it has a touch of paris texas. go get the cd folks. now that is what i call slide guitar :-)
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: Love Expresso on April 15, 2010, 12:11:01 AM
I wish MK would play more slide guitar on his albums. The live version of "Right Now" was really awesome. That guitar is great anyway. Best thing Mike
Henderson contributed to MK's career.

(http://www.mark-knopfler.info/guitars/danelectro59dc.jpg)

LE
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: Banjo99uk on April 15, 2010, 05:18:23 AM
It sounds fantastic but it just makes me think Chris Rea has that sound cornered and should keep it. 
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: jbaent on April 15, 2010, 11:46:09 AM
Compared to some slide players like Sonny Landreth or Eric Sardinas (just to name two very differents) Mk slide playing is like he is learning how to do it, but doesn
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: superval99 on April 15, 2010, 11:51:36 AM
I love it!    :D
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: Tobben on April 15, 2010, 11:52:09 AM
It
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: jbaent on April 17, 2010, 01:42:36 AM
The song MK covers for the Donegans gone intro is a blues classic by Blind Willie Johnson

This is a spotify link for that song http://open.spotify.com/track/2P9nh9pTK96dE0b6NBbTSs (http://open.spotify.com/track/2P9nh9pTK96dE0b6NBbTSs)
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on April 17, 2010, 08:57:15 AM
I was listening to 'DG' on the Eugene download.
I must say it is the best version i have ever heard.
The slide intro was sublime. I'm not usually a great fan of the slide guitar, but it sounds to me like he's really been trying hard to improve. Infact at 1st, i wasn't even sure it was Mark. ;)

Cheers   BBB
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: jbaent on April 17, 2010, 01:58:47 PM
I also like most of the new arrengements with flute and whistles, I hope they can have Mike during the rest of the european tour, songs like Marbletown, Border reiver or Piper to the end with fiddle and whistle at the same time would be perfect!!!!
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: Jackal on November 25, 2011, 12:28:53 PM
and still it has a touch of paris texas. go get the cd folks. now that is what i call slide guitar :-)

Was reminded of this when I heard Donegan recently. Mark's tune sounds like a mixture of Cooder's Paris, Texas and Feelin' Bad Blues from Crossroads:

Mark:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6er1XgTQ0lg

Paris, Texas:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=X6ymVaq3Fqk

Feelin Bad Blues:
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JIwYGZlBw9Y
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: superval99 on November 25, 2011, 12:34:35 PM
From Guy:

The intro to donegan's gone is a piece called 'Dark was the Night, Cold was the ground' originally by Blind Willie Johnson and redone by Mark and I for the documentary 'Seeing in the Dark'. I love it.
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: Jackal on November 25, 2011, 12:38:56 PM
Cool!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=BNj2BXW852g

It all comes from the same place, a troubled soul.
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: JF on December 06, 2011, 12:59:44 PM
Ry Cooder has never hidden that the Paris Texas main theme was influenced by Dark was the night.
The basic lick is indeed the same.
So it's natural that Mark's intro contained some analogies with Cooder's soundtrack (which contains dark was the night by the way)
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: JF on December 06, 2011, 01:04:35 PM
Compared to some slide players like Sonny Landreth or Eric Sardinas (just to name two very differents) Mk slide playing is like he is learning how to do it, but doesn
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: ds1984 on December 06, 2011, 03:14:12 PM
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Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: Pottel on December 06, 2011, 03:56:10 PM
prolyl why he performed Water of love without a bottleneck during the 1996 tour...
but he does use it on ...what was it again, ....donegan, right?
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: superval99 on December 06, 2011, 04:05:56 PM
I thought he made a good job playing slide on "Seeing in the Dark" and I really enjoyed "Right Now" on the Emmylou tour.  The intro to DG sounds fine to me too.  :)
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: Tally on December 06, 2011, 06:14:36 PM
Mark's slide playing was better back in the day, wasn't it? Think Water of Love, Man's Too Strong...

I always like slide because it gives the songs a different feel, but agreed, Mark's recent slide playing is average. And I'm not convinced that it's a good choice to play all the slide tunes on the Henderson guitar.
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: JF on December 09, 2011, 08:28:31 AM
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Gilmour on slide? Don't you mean lap steel do you?

Gilmour is well known for playing on lap steel or on pedal steel guitar.

But during PF early years (68-71) he played slide on strat (and maybe on tele)
check live at pompei

all slide parts on saucerful of secret (on remember a day, it's Syd Barett), more, ummagumma, and Atom heart mother are NOT lap steel or pedal steel, it is all bottleneck on a normal guitar

the first lap steel on a PF record is One of these days on Meddle, 1971, and of course later you have Breathe, great gig, Shine on parts 6-9, etc...

http://www.gilmourish.com/?page_id=69


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prolyl why he performed Water of love without a bottleneck during the 1996 tour...

it wasn't the first time he played this song without bottleneck, he first did in 90 with the NHB, on the black Pensa (e.g. Snape 15.05.90)


Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: Jackal on December 09, 2011, 08:49:02 AM
The slide playing on Donegan's Gone itself is terrible. And I also think that the Dark Was the Night intro doesn't match. It would fit much better to a more bluesy song, Marbletown for instance.

Here's a thing with Mark though - for me he is a MASTER of tasteful lines. And the tone, oh, man ... But sometimes he just surprises me with some really corny choices of notes. I don't have any examples off of my head, but it's usually during a longer solo phrase where he sounds like he doesn't quite know where to go, and he chooses the easiest way out. And sometimes he just gets himself into a big mess haha As was particularly evident on Sultans during the Crimson tour.
Title: Re: SPOILER: The intro of certain song being played in this tour
Post by: superval99 on December 09, 2011, 10:11:37 AM
... But sometimes he just surprises me with some really corny choices of notes. I don't have any examples off of my head, but it's usually during a longer solo phrase where he sounds like he doesn't quite know where to go, and he chooses the easiest way out.

Yes, I know what you mean about those corny notes!    I have heard them in lots of songs, mainly at the end of a longish solo.  For example, I was listening to "Why Aye Man" from Oberhausen yesterday and almost at the end of the outro, there were those six or seven notes again, as though he has lost his way.  It was a really nice outtro, but it could have sounded even better!