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Title: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: qjamesfloyd on February 22, 2022, 09:34:39 AM
Mark has added his support and signature to Roger Waters guitar, he is sending it to Kurdish singer Nudem Durak who has been jailed for 19 years in Turkey for singing in her native language. Find out more below:

https://morningstaronline.co.uk/article/w/pink-floyd-musician-joined-noel-gallagher-and-others-demanding-release-kurdish-singer

This is the first time I have heard of Mark being connected to Roger Waters, like he has a connection to the other 3 members of Pink Floyd.
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 22, 2022, 09:51:39 AM
A noble cause by the looks of things. Sadly I doubt the guitar will make it to her.
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: TheTimeWasWrong on February 22, 2022, 11:54:32 AM
This is the first time I have heard of Mark being connected to Roger Waters, like he has a connection to the other 3 members of Pink Floyd.

Not really a connection, but I remember RW said in an interview he thought 'The Division Bell' sounded like a DS-record (in a negative way). Must admit, Coming Back To Life and Lost For Words have a Knopfler touch.
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: Dutchessy on February 22, 2022, 02:19:09 PM
This is the first time I have heard of Mark being connected to Roger Waters, like he has a connection to the other 3 members of Pink Floyd.

Not really a connection, but I remember RW said in an interview he thought 'The Division Bell' sounded like a DS-record (in a negative way). Must admit, Coming Back To Life and Lost For Words have a Knopfler touch.

Maybe that's why i love those songs
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: qjamesfloyd on February 22, 2022, 02:40:16 PM
I suppose they could be, Gilmour's intro to Coming Back To Life is amazing, and I could hear Mark doing that.
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: Eddie Fox on February 23, 2022, 02:23:43 AM
Eric Clapton says in his bio he would go hunting with Mark and Roger all together quite regularly back in the day
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: JF on February 23, 2022, 07:58:12 PM
This is the first time I have heard of Mark being connected to Roger Waters, like he has a connection to the other 3 members of Pink Floyd.

Not really a connection, but I remember RW said in an interview he thought 'The Division Bell' sounded like a DS-record (in a negative way). Must admit, Coming Back To Life and Lost For Words have a Knopfler touch.

I remember a chronicle about Division bell that said something like :

_ A great day for freedom sounds like Queen
- Take it back sounds like U2
- Coming back to life sounds like DS
- Lost for wods sounds like Springsteen

not exactly words "sounds like", but those artistes were the ones in  comparison
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: qjamesfloyd on February 24, 2022, 08:54:39 AM
I would add Cluster One sounds like Mike Oldfield.
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: jbaent on February 24, 2022, 09:59:23 AM
Eric Clapton says in his bio he would go hunting with Mark and Roger all together quite regularly back in the day

Roger was also the name of his manager, Roger Forrester.

In many pages of his book is difficult to know when he's talking about Waters and when he's talking about his manager as he just says Roger to refer to both.
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: Rivers Of Rain on February 24, 2022, 09:44:16 PM
I remember a chronicle about Division bell that said something like :

_ A great day for freedom sounds like Queen
- Take it back sounds like U2
- Coming back to life sounds like DS
- Lost for wods sounds like Springsteen

not exactly words "sounds like", but those artistes were the ones in  comparison

Interesting, I'd say that of those four Division Bell tracks the similarity between Coming Back To Life and DS is one of two I can hear - I can't say A Great Day For Freedom reminds me of Queen in any way (was the author thinking of a specific song?), and the song Lost For Words reminds me most of is Pink Floyd's own Wish You Were Here. I also agree with Take It Back sounding like U2, with the caveat that The Edge's guitar in songs such as Where The Streets Have No Name was quite possibly inspired by Gilmour's sound on Run Like Hell so to some extent it was also derived from earlier Pink Floyd.

Roger comparing The Division Bell to DS, even if intended as an insult, would rank as one of his kinder comments on the album - if I remember rightly on another occasion he described as it as 'absolute nonsense from beginning to end!'
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 24, 2022, 10:00:49 PM
I get that people like it in its own right but really it bears no comparison to classic Floyd.
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: Pottel on February 24, 2022, 10:02:53 PM
I would add Cluster One sounds like Mike Oldfield.
i LOVE Cluster one....
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: Pottel on February 24, 2022, 10:04:01 PM
I get that people like it in its own right but really it bears no comparison to classic Floyd.
heathen! where's my tar and feathers!!
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: Eddie Fox on February 24, 2022, 11:16:09 PM
Eric Clapton says in his bio he would go hunting with Mark and Roger all together quite regularly back in the day

Roger was also the name of his manager, Roger Forrester.

In many pages of his book is difficult to know when he's talking about Waters and when he's talking about his manager as he just says Roger to refer to both.

He says Waters
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: JF on February 24, 2022, 11:22:35 PM
I get that people like it in its own right but really it bears no comparison to classic Floyd.

+1000  :thumbsup
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: JF on February 24, 2022, 11:33:57 PM
I can't say A Great Day For Freedom reminds me of Queen in any way (was the author thinking of a specific song?)

no specific song was quoted
But those melodic lines above piano, that kind of chords progression, and that solo in the end, all those ingredients reminds me of Queen classic style not a particular song (maybe a little bit Lily of the valley) but an atmopshere that makes me think to Queen : I'd say "weighty" in french, not sure if is the right word in english


the song Lost For Words reminds me most of is Pink Floyd's own Wish You Were Here.

yes indeed. But the end of melodic lines reminds me of Independance day by the boss
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: Slavi on February 25, 2022, 02:24:53 PM
Hello guys! Reading your discussion here I remembered something interesting....
Roger Waters had his first concert in my home town Sofia in August 2013. I was there of course and as always went to the venue (a big football stadium) some hours earlier. We were let in the stadium an hour before the concert to start, and they played the WHOLE Brothers In Arms album in the stadium and when it finished they played it for the second time till Roger was about to go on stage. I discovered BIA was played also on many concerts of RW tour this year. It was very logical to me back then because Roger’s tour was against the war and BIA album was the most significant symbol to show the RW tour meaning.
So I don’t think RW has any bad thoughts about DS/MK albums...
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: jbaent on February 25, 2022, 02:28:35 PM
Hello guys! Reading your discussion here I remembered something interesting....
Roger Waters had his first concert in my home town Sofia in August 2013. I was there of course and as always went to the venue (a big football stadium) some hours earlier. We were let in the stadium an hour before the concert to start, and they played the WHOLE Brothers In Arms album in the stadium and when it finished they played it for the second time till Roger was about to go on stage. I discovered BIA was played also on many concerts of RW tour this year. It was very logical to me back then because Roger’s tour was against the war and BIA album was the most significant symbol to show the RW tour meaning.
So I don’t think RW has any bad thoughts about DS/MK albums...

Hello Slavi, great to read you again!

I think that Roger Waters made a reference to BIA in comparation with "A momentary lapse of reason" as both records were digitally recorded and they both sound artificial.
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 25, 2022, 02:58:24 PM
Great to have you back Slavi!

Roger Waters is quite a feisty character, funny to watch.

https://www.pinkfloydz.com/interviews/roger-waters-interviewarticle-q-magazine-november-1992/

This is an amazing intervew.
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: Slavi on February 25, 2022, 03:23:57 PM
Hello guys! Reading your discussion here I remembered something interesting....
Roger Waters had his first concert in my home town Sofia in August 2013. I was there of course and as always went to the venue (a big football stadium) some hours earlier. We were let in the stadium an hour before the concert to start, and they played the WHOLE Brothers In Arms album in the stadium and when it finished they played it for the second time till Roger was about to go on stage. I discovered BIA was played also on many concerts of RW tour this year. It was very logical to me back then because Roger’s tour was against the war and BIA album was the most significant symbol to show the RW tour meaning.
So I don’t think RW has any bad thoughts about DS/MK albums...

Hello Slavi, great to read you again!

I think that Roger Waters made a reference to BIA in comparation with "A momentary lapse of reason" as both records were digitally recorded and they both sound artificial.

Hi jbaent! The concert I mentioned was actually “The Wall” concert with no other songs played. They broadcasted on the wall a lot of soldiers photos with their names, age, countries, places they were at war. It was  thematically connected with BIA song and album.
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: Slavi on February 25, 2022, 03:25:07 PM
Great to have you back Slavi!

Roger Waters is quite a feisty character, funny to watch.

https://www.pinkfloydz.com/interviews/roger-waters-interviewarticle-q-magazine-november-1992/

This is an amazing intervew.
Thank you, Dusty! Nice reading 😃
Title: Re: Mark Signed Roger Waters Guitar
Post by: superval99 on February 25, 2022, 04:02:41 PM
Hi Slavi!   Great to hear from you again!   :wave