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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Almost Straits => Topic started by: vancip on March 03, 2014, 08:48:56 AM

Title: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: vancip on March 03, 2014, 08:48:56 AM
8 dates in May, adv in Monday edition of the biggest sports newspaper and new line-up ..
out Pick Withers
in Steve Ferrone and John Illsley
confirmed Mel Collins, Phil Palmer and Danny Cummings
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: foma on March 03, 2014, 09:17:56 AM
Well John now is out of my respect-list.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: ds1984 on March 03, 2014, 12:08:36 PM
John Illsley performing as part of Dire Straits Legends band ?!!

How Marco did success to convince him, I would be curious to know.

Does John miss playing that good ole stuff that much?

Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: jbaent on March 03, 2014, 12:56:07 PM
John is about to release a new cd, and probably he agreed to play with them if they play some of his songs and also sell his cd at the concerts.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: vancip on March 03, 2014, 01:46:14 PM
John Illsley performing as part of Dire Straits Legends band ?!!

How Marco did success to convince him, I would be curious to know.


in another forum while announcing JI in the band Marco C. wrote  "line-up .. working on another member  ;) setlist totally different from 2013 gigs"
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: Throttle on March 04, 2014, 02:01:11 AM
Wouldn't want to utter platitudes, but such is the prose of everyday life.

All of them want to eat and drink to satiety, however very few are able to create something truly remarkable.
And it looks as if they will persevere with their attempts to palm off musty eggs till doomsday.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 04, 2014, 08:50:19 PM
So... Alan Clark's pal Steve Ferrone misses The Straits' US Spring tour because he is recording with Tom Petty, but then joins a rival DS tribute act?

Bizarre stuff.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: Pottel on March 04, 2014, 11:37:25 PM
why pick is out i wonder more then why ferrone is in...
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: dmg on March 05, 2014, 11:46:00 AM
why pick is out i wonder more then why ferrone is in...

Well it's obvious:  Ferrone is the better cheaper drummer! :lol
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: foma on March 05, 2014, 08:48:05 PM
Pick out, John in. So when John will be fired, they'll hire Mark for a lead guitar? Or will they start with David?
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: dmg on March 05, 2014, 10:49:48 PM
Pick out, John in. So when John will be fired, they'll hire Mark for a lead guitar? Or will they start with David?

Sibling rivalry!  I'd say whoever is cheapest! ;)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: jakehadlee on March 06, 2014, 12:31:01 PM
I can't see the problem with JI doing this - why shouldn't he make a few bob out of being part of a DS tribute show?

I can sort of see some of the issues people have with The Straits, in that they are marketing themselves as a continuation of the original band and slightly passing themselves off as something they aren't. But DSL aren't pretending to be anything other than a bunch of ex band-members putting on a show of DS music.

There's a demand for it, it's honest, and no-one is being ripped off.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: Fletch on March 06, 2014, 12:45:44 PM
Sincerely, it must be hard being JI, playing & living amongst the Hurricane that was Dire Straits only to find himself doing nothing of significance for the last 22 years!!

There's a fella called John Deacon of Queen, who somehow found the secret to leaving it all behind whilst the others struggle on for significance. Deacon should start a support group, but I honestly think he's too busy having a real life! He's an enigma.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: JF on March 06, 2014, 05:01:52 PM
There's a fella called John Deacon of Queen, who somehow found the secret to leaving it all behind whilst the others struggle on for significance. Deacon should start a support group, but I honestly think he's too busy having a real life! He's an enigma.

another one that comes to mind is Nick Mason. The only one member being part of all Floyd incarnations, and surely the less known from public !

whilst the others were fighting for right issues, releasing new albums, etc.... he prefered spending his time in cars race. I guess it's having a real life too.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 06, 2014, 10:52:46 PM
Sincerely, it must be hard being JI, playing & living amongst the Hurricane that was Dire Straits only to find himself doing nothing of significance for the last 22 years!!

There's a fella called John Deacon of Queen, who somehow found the secret to leaving it all behind whilst the others struggle on for significance. Deacon should start a support group, but I honestly think he's too busy having a real life! He's an enigma.

Hear hear, John Deacon is the only member of Queen to retain any dignity.  Some of the stuff the other two have done with the Queen name has been downright embarrassing.

Surely John doesn't need the money,  he just wants to play.

And what has happened to Danny?
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 06, 2014, 11:02:52 PM
Sincerely, it must be hard being JI, playing & living amongst the Hurricane that was Dire Straits only to find himself doing nothing of significance for the last 22 years!!

There's a fella called John Deacon of Queen, who somehow found the secret to leaving it all behind whilst the others struggle on for significance. Deacon should start a support group, but I honestly think he's too busy having a real life! He's an enigma.

Hear hear, John Deacon is the only member of Queen to retain any dignity.  Some of the stuff the other two have done with the Queen name has been downright embarrassing.

Surely John doesn't need the money,  he just wants to play.

And what has happened to Danny?
I got massively into Queen at the same time as DS which was a couple of years before Freddie Mercury died. As Dusty said Taylor and more so May are an embarresment to the legacy of Queen. They should and could have started a whole new venture on a small basis. They make MK look even more dignified in his later years.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 06, 2014, 11:28:21 PM
(http://www.queenvault.com/queenplus/fivewwry.jpg)

The prosecution rests m'lud.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 07, 2014, 08:07:23 AM
So no Jack this time.

Why jot just have Danny play drums?

I know a gig's a gig but I find it very, very strange that Steve Ferrone plays in these rribute acts when he is a permanent member of one of the greatest bands in the world.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: JF on March 07, 2014, 09:42:54 AM
I love Queen's work during the 70ies : from 1st album to news of a world. After that it changed and their 80ies are not my cupa, even some songs are good.

During their firts era, I like their blending of hard / glam / prog / lyrical /dandy / 20s-jazzy / etc...
I'd say it's like the beatles meeting hendrix, meeting Led Zep meeting Puccini meeting music-hall from the "belle
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: ds1984 on March 07, 2014, 10:12:38 AM
So no Jack this time.

Why jot just have Danny play drums?

I know a gig's a gig but I find it very, very strange that Steve Ferrone plays in these rribute acts when he is a permanent member of one of the greatest bands in the world.

Because he likes to play Dires Straits' music?
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: vgonis on March 07, 2014, 12:07:45 PM
I think that w are a bit harsh on them. They are musicians, devoted their lives on playing these songs, they have to make a living and they love what they are doing and there seems to be an audience to pay to see them . Seems to me the ideal combination. If one of the reasons above is eclipsed the thing will fall apart. The same with Queen. I liked them from Sheer heart attack until Jazz and then they had many great songs during the 80ies, and their last proper album was amazingly good. And then some of them thought that they were equally Queen without Mercury (they were correct) and some of them thought that the Queen is dead (equally correct). Now I believe it has to do with the ones paying to see them. As long as there is a demand, some of them will cover it. No harm done really. It is only a matter of taste. I would never go to see Mick and Keith, because there is nothing there for me, (Bill Wyman could be an example for your case, though) but I won't say no to our MK, playing his DS songs, as well as the new ones.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: junkiedoll on March 09, 2014, 09:02:37 AM
There are some very clear reactions of Guy in his forum. On John being part of that he really seems to be somewhat baffled, stating "I'm a bit perplexed by it all". First the Straits thing, now these legends seem to do something similar?? Didn
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: ds1984 on March 09, 2014, 03:34:51 PM
Dire Straits legacy is stronger than Mark's wish
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: jbaent on March 09, 2014, 03:57:01 PM
Well, actually I "guess" the management had done something to avoid many European promoters hire The Straits or Dslegends. Something like a "concern that MK wont be hsppy with that".

A subtle warning, if you know what I mean.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: vgonis on March 09, 2014, 04:57:39 PM
Really strange if you ask me. But not going to analyze it any further.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: ds1984 on March 10, 2014, 12:31:28 PM
Late though but interesting to know that Mark and Guy did speak together about the matter.

The fact that John Illsley is involved with this tribute band is not that lightweighted.

So Mark unhappy to see that so many people still like Dire Straits music to accept an ersatz made with some genuine ingredients?
That simply tells how the Dires Straits Beast has escaped from Knopfler's control and is not totally dead in the heart of the fans...

And to make things clear I would probably not attend neither an "The Straits" nor a "DS Legends" gig.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: dmg on March 10, 2014, 12:35:26 PM
Dire Straits legacy is stronger than Mark's wish

People will be talking about the music of DS for as long as people talk about music.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: ds1984 on March 10, 2014, 12:39:03 PM
"Dire Straits Legacy" would be a good band name don't you think?  ;D

(http://i2.cdn.turner.com/cnn/dam/assets/130131163423-private-jets-embraer-650-horizontal-gallery.jpg)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: dmg on March 10, 2014, 06:37:12 PM
The Straits aren't using the Legacy to travel.  Instead they are travelling by bus.

Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: ds1984 on March 10, 2014, 06:51:28 PM
The Straits aren't using the Legacy to travel.  Instead they are travelling by bus.

That one looks like Mark's last solo effort album cover...
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: dmg on March 10, 2014, 06:57:20 PM
The Straits aren't using the Legacy to travel.  Instead they are travelling by bus.

That one looks like Mark's last solo effort album cover...
:thumbsup
Didn't think - I should have used that one! ::)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: Shoaib on March 21, 2014, 07:28:16 AM
https://www.facebook.com/johnillsley

18/March/2014
Rune Br
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: jbaent on March 21, 2014, 11:56:50 AM
https://www.facebook.com/johnillsley

18/March/2014
Rune Br
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: ds1984 on March 21, 2014, 06:01:19 PM
What's next?

John opening on the next MK tour and back on stage for the encore and play alongside Mark one full hour of old DS stuff, classics and rarities calling themselves "The Struth"?
(just dreamin')
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: jbaent on March 21, 2014, 10:37:02 PM
What's next?

John opening on the next MK tour and back on stage for the encore and play alongside Mark one full hour of old DS stuff, classics and rarities calling themselves "The Struth"?
(just dreamin')

That would be great, but the openers used to be musicians from the same manager/company/agent that are looking for some promotion.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legends new Italian Tour
Post by: ds1984 on March 22, 2014, 09:10:37 PM
What's next?

John opening on the next MK tour and back on stage for the encore and play alongside Mark one full hour of old DS stuff, classics and rarities calling themselves "The Struth"?
(just dreamin')

That would be great, but the openers used to be musicians from the same manager/company/agent that are looking for some promotion.

No problemo, John can sign a deal with PCM.