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Author Topic: The NEW SONGS live 2011 #SPOILER AHEAD# (bring your information pls)  (Read 66418 times)

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Re: The NEW SONGS live 2011 #SPOILER AHEAD# (bring your information pls)
« Reply #135 on: October 19, 2011, 04:10:49 PM »
Sounds similar to the melody of "Wild Mountain Thyme" to me!  :)


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Re: The NEW SONGS live 2011 #SPOILER AHEAD# (bring your information pls)
« Reply #136 on: October 19, 2011, 11:42:40 PM »
The more I think about "Haul Away" (and listen to it..which is a lot!)..the more I think that I missed something in my earlier post. Originally I thought that it was referring to a ceremonial burial at sea...not so sure now. The first verse really threw me off..now I'm beginning to think that he is talking about his friend stumbling and going overboard. "Was a windless night..when you left the ship"..left..or fell? It's followed by "you never were a steady boy"...maybe too much to drink and a bit too wobbly. I can't quite make out the next line...but it sounds like something like  "I gave you a hand..but you did slip". After a lengthy search..they decided to quit..and proceeded to "Haul Away" for home...imho of course.  :)
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Re: The NEW SONGS live 2011 #SPOILER AHEAD# (bring your information pls)
« Reply #137 on: October 28, 2011, 12:48:13 PM »
my cover of PRIVATEERING

 :) :) ;)

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Re: The NEW SONGS live 2011 #SPOILER AHEAD# (bring your information pls)
« Reply #138 on: October 28, 2011, 02:26:24 PM »
my cover of PRIVATEERING

 :) :) ;)
It sounds nice!  :)
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Re: The NEW SONGS live 2011 #SPOILER AHEAD# (bring your information pls)
« Reply #139 on: October 28, 2011, 02:38:42 PM »
my cover of PRIVATEERING

 :) :) ;)

Really good!
You might get lucky, now and then

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Re: The NEW SONGS live 2011 #SPOILER AHEAD# (bring your information pls)
« Reply #140 on: October 28, 2011, 04:19:52 PM »
Thanks pamplina and jbaent!

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Re: The NEW SONGS live 2011 #SPOILER AHEAD# (bring your information pls)
« Reply #141 on: October 28, 2011, 05:14:18 PM »
my cover of PRIVATEERING

 :) :) ;)

Nice one, wish I could play that well, especially as a youngster. I watched a number of your clips, keep up the good work ;)

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Re: The NEW SONGS live 2011 #SPOILER AHEAD# (bring your information pls)
« Reply #142 on: October 28, 2011, 05:17:46 PM »
Is that a real Ovation? It sounds very nice...
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Re: The NEW SONGS live 2011 #SPOILER AHEAD# (bring your information pls)
« Reply #143 on: October 28, 2011, 05:41:05 PM »
Is that a real Ovation? It sounds very nice...

I wish...
It's a Stagg A2006, sounds good enough for a $300 imitation :)

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Re: The NEW SONGS live 2011 #SPOILER AHEAD# (bring your information pls)
« Reply #144 on: October 28, 2011, 05:51:40 PM »
Is that a real Ovation? It sounds very nice...

I wish...
It's a Stagg A2006, sounds good enough for a $300 imitation :)

It has a real nice sound, quite similar to the cittern that McCusker plays... good choice, and very well played!
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Re: The NEW SONGS live 2011 #SPOILER AHEAD# (bring your information pls)
« Reply #145 on: October 29, 2011, 01:56:57 AM »
my cover of PRIVATEERING

 :) :) ;)

Fantastic! 
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Re: The NEW SONGS live 2011 #SPOILER AHEAD# (bring your information pls)
« Reply #146 on: October 29, 2011, 01:59:00 AM »
my cover of PRIVATEERING

 :) :) ;)

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Re: The NEW SONGS live 2011 #SPOILER AHEAD# (bring your information pls)
« Reply #147 on: November 18, 2011, 09:09:52 PM »
I am reanimating this thread because I found it interesting what Guy posted today: That there is obviously no studio version of Privateering as yet.
I was sure that they have recorded the songs already. Knowing this I think it is clear what exactly it is they are doing in the Studio next week: Recording the three new songs Privateering, Haul Away and Corned Beef City, after the tour experience they probably will have a special lively feel. What do you think?

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Re: The NEW SONGS live 2011 #SPOILER AHEAD# (bring your information pls)
« Reply #148 on: November 18, 2011, 09:25:37 PM »
since first hearing Privateering and Haul Away I thought they were for the Private Peaceful soundtrack.

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Re: The NEW SONGS live 2011 #SPOILER AHEAD# (bring your information pls)
« Reply #149 on: November 19, 2011, 12:36:32 AM »
I've not been looking at this thread and I'm not sure why I have come on to it now but a couple of comments on the etymology of "haul away".

I am not an expert on this subject but my guess is that the phrase comes from an old sea shanty (work songs sung on old sailing boats), such as "Haul Away, Joe". Commonly, the word "haul" means to pull something with great effort. On the old sailing ships, the raising of the sails was done by hand, as was the rasing of the anchor. These tasks were team efforts. The singing of sea shanties was done to help co-ordinate the efforts of the sailors involved, as they pulled together, and also to make the task seem a touch less arduous. The singing was led by the shantyman, not an official position but a much respected role, nevertheless.

Somewhere in my boxes, I have some old 1960s' folk music magazines from Liverpool called SPIN and they have a series of articles by Stan Hugill, a real expert on the subject of sea shanties and sailors' songs. I must dig those old magazines out some time. Stan Hugill wrote one of the standard books on the subject.

There were different types of shanties for different tasks and even different types of shanty for hauling tasks. A long haul shanty was used where a succession of "pulls" was needed, for example to haul on the ropes in order to raise the sails. Short haul shanties were used when there was a longer period of rest between each tremendous pull. Shanties were very rhythmic, rather like field hollers and chain-gang work songs, or even the chants used by the military when performing drills. Some of these hauling tasks on old sailing ships were undertaken in order to alter the direction of the sails to catch a change in the wind.

The word "haul" does also refer to changing a ship's course at sea but, at the same time, "overhaul" is a nautical term meaning to overtake or catch up with another vessel.  Also, I believe old sailors would refer to the wind hauling southward, for example, meaning that the wind was changing to a southerly direction. Despite the slightly different usages in different contexts, I'm sure they're all linked.

None of this says anything about MK's new song, of course but here's "Haul Away, Joe":

http://www.acousticmusicarchive.com/haul_away_joe.html

"Haul away" can also, I believe, refer to the ship itself moving speedily through the water.

 

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