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Re: Alchemy Live - 20th Anniversary Edition
« Reply #135 on: April 25, 2010, 02:24:36 PM »
well, maybe yall wanna wait till you hear it for yourself, at home, on your home cinema systems? before giving all these opninions? feels a bit like the monte carlo thread.
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Re: Alchemy Live - 20th Anniversary Edition
« Reply #136 on: April 26, 2010, 01:17:53 AM »
Bad that my dvd+dvr doesn
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Re: Alchemy Live - 20th Anniversary Edition
« Reply #137 on: April 26, 2010, 02:51:55 PM »
well, maybe yall wanna wait till you hear it for yourself, at home, on your home cinema systems? before giving all these opinions? feels a bit like the monte carlo thread.
I absolutely agree, Pottel.

Of course the vocals aren't redone. And of course a remix will affect the sound, that's what a remix does. Chuck said in an interview that he thought that the band played fantastic, but the original mix was terrible. From just hearing the clip, I don't think the voice sounds processed at all, but quite natural, less EQed in a way. I think the teaser sounds fantastic, so I am really looking forward to a proper sounding Alchemy. But, you could e-mail Chuck, I think he is known to answer e-mails in a very friendly and informative way.

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Re: Alchemy Live - 20th Anniversary Edition
« Reply #138 on: April 26, 2010, 10:57:18 PM »
Sound and the perception of sound is extremely subjective. Just because someone says something was a bad mix doesn't mean it wasn't enjoyed immensely by others. There are in my opinion far too many hugely over-processed albums - but that is my opinion and I am sure the sound engineers at the time were rubbing their lapels with pride when their work was done.

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Re: Alchemy Live - 20th Anniversary Edition
« Reply #139 on: April 26, 2010, 11:46:34 PM »
Sound and the perception of sound is extremely subjective. Just because someone says something was a bad mix doesn't mean it wasn't enjoyed immensely by others. There are in my opinion far too many hugely over-processed albums - but that is my opinion and I am sure the sound engineers at the time were rubbing their lapels with pride when their work was done.
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Re: Alchemy Live - 20th Anniversary Edition
« Reply #140 on: April 27, 2010, 12:19:17 AM »
Slightly OT but relevant I think. I remember a Def Leppard documentary on their album Pyromania which took years to make and was so over-processed that it was not possible for 4 guys to make the sounds that emanated from it (40 guys maybe with a load of synthetic sounds!). They subsequently asked Jim Steinman to produce their next album and he wrapped it up in a few weeks - but the band didn't like the sound - they thought he hadn't spent long enough mixing/mastering it so they sacked him. Jim Steinman - the guy who wrote and produced probably one of the best selling albums of all time! :-)

The following quote by Steinman says it all as far as I am concerned:

 "That was bullshit, like working with blanks. I've come to believe that Def Leppard is basically like George Bush, a package item with an amazing amount of confection and no content. They're just like Spinal Tap. It's really all the producer - a Mutt Lange creation. They come out as great records, beautifully layered technically, but so empty".
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Re: Alchemy Live - 20th Anniversary Edition
« Reply #141 on: April 27, 2010, 07:51:31 AM »
  "That was bullshit, like working with blanks. I've come to believe that Def Leppard is basically like George Bush, a package item with an amazing amount of confection and no content. They're just like Spinal Tap. It's really all the producer - a Mutt Lange creation. They come out as great records, beautifully layered technically, but so empty".

So quite the opposite of Dire Straits! What do you think? ;)

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Re: Alchemy Live - 20th Anniversary Edition
« Reply #142 on: April 27, 2010, 11:51:13 AM »

 "That was bullshit, like working with blanks. I've come to believe that Def Leppard is basically like George Bush, a package item with an amazing amount of confection and no content. They're just like Spinal Tap. It's really all the producer - a Mutt Lange creation. They come out as great records, beautifully layered technically, but so empty".

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Re: Alchemy Live - 20th Anniversary Edition
« Reply #143 on: April 27, 2010, 01:52:48 PM »
Confirmed that the deluxe version includes the 2 cd version that we already have, it means that it doesn
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Re: Alchemy Live - 20th Anniversary Edition
« Reply #144 on: April 27, 2010, 03:11:23 PM »
It's utterly ridiculous that the new mixes aren't included. I will buy the DVD only.

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Re: Alchemy Live - 20th Anniversary Edition
« Reply #145 on: April 27, 2010, 03:26:09 PM »
It's utterly ridiculous that the new mixes aren't included. I will buy the DVD only.

Agreed, I'm in the same boat, I bought the copied dvd on ebay a few years ago,the quality is ok & its certainly easier to store than the vhs copy but Chucks version obviously has to be far superior - no way am I buying a deluxe version that includes 2 cds that I have already though - a bit of a waste of money really if you ask me just to have a a box set ::)
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Re: Alchemy Live - 20th Anniversary Edition
« Reply #146 on: April 27, 2010, 04:59:48 PM »
Confirmed that the deluxe version includes the 2 cd version that we already have, it means that it doesn
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Re: Alchemy Live - 20th Anniversary Edition
« Reply #147 on: April 27, 2010, 06:02:41 PM »
Maybe the Chuck Ainley remix is just the 5.1 surround version, and this format CANNOT be pressed to a normal CD ...

At least I now understand it the way that the bonus material is also on the Bluray, I already saw a horror scenario that I must buy the Bluray for HD, PLUS the Deluxe DVD for that bonus stuff (which will be better quality than the versions we have of it). This would have been a no-go for me, I rather would have illegally downloaded the bonus stuff somewhere before paying for Alchemy for the 5th time then (vinyl, VHS, CD, DVD, Bluray)
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Re: Alchemy Live - 20th Anniversary Edition
« Reply #148 on: April 27, 2010, 06:27:22 PM »
Maybe the Chuck Ainley remix is just the 5.1 surround version, and this format CANNOT be pressed to a normal CD ...

Alchemy Live restored to pristine high definition visual clarity, remixed in PCM Uncompressed Stereo and Digital 5.1 Surround Sound
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Re: Alchemy Live - 20th Anniversary Edition
« Reply #149 on: April 27, 2010, 06:41:47 PM »
IMHO I think by "the original album" they mean the same tracks remixed in a better way without removing or adding additional songs.Original album - Same songs remixed by Chuck! same as in Dire Straits (1978) original album remixed (1996) or something like that! I may be wrong but anyway I did preorder the deluxe edition yesterday.

 

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