A Mark In Time
Previous Tours => 2013 Privateering World Tour => Topic started by: ingridswing on April 29, 2013, 08:15:39 PM
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(....) means first played in city ...
The first 16 are played in Bucharest, so I won't modify, I am lazy, sorry
I added "Dark was the night" as it is kind of mentioned as a song.
01 What it is
02 Corned beef city
03 Privateering
04 Father and son
05 Hill farmer
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Thank you for posting this list Ingrid! :-*
Just a little comment, "I Used To Could" is mentioned at number 7 and 18! ;D
Fieneke
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Thanks Fieneke, must be Postcards. Changed now :)
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I think this post has to be sticky... What do you think?
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I saw it, thanks :)
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Nice one Jbaent. I like tables; everything's so much clearer.
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I think it's something a lot of MK-fans have in common, put everything in tables/excelsheets.
Planning of tours, setlists, collected bootlegs etc :D
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"Seeing in the dark" is wrong, the song title is "Dark is the night, cold was the ground"
http://youtu.be/Obs73TqWbog (http://youtu.be/Obs73TqWbog)
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"Seeing in the dark" is wrong, the song title is "Dark is the night, cold was the ground"
http://youtu.be/Obs73TqWbog (http://youtu.be/Obs73TqWbog)
Changed :)
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"Seeing in the dark" is wrong, the song title is "Dark is the night, cold was the ground"
http://youtu.be/Obs73TqWbog (http://youtu.be/Obs73TqWbog)
Yes, that's true. The docu is called 'seeing in the dark'. I searched it myself at Guy's forum and mentioned it before in the other topic ;)
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"Seeing in the dark" is wrong, the song title is "Dark is the night, cold was the ground"
http://youtu.be/Obs73TqWbog (http://youtu.be/Obs73TqWbog)
Yes, that's true. The docu is called 'seeing in the dark'. I searched it myself at Guy's forum and mentioned it before in the other topic ;)
yes and the song is the famous one featured at the end of the paris Texas soundtrack, and this is the one that gave Cooder inspiration for the main theme
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(....) means first played in city ...
The first 16 are played in Bucharest, so I won't modify, I am lazy, sorry
I added "Seeing in the Dark" as it is kind of mentioned as a song.
01 What it is
02 Corned beef city
03 Privateering
04 Father and son
05 Hill farmer
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YTC is also on #6 ;) But it's the first time on that place of speedway, before TR
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Thanks Dutchessy, I was out tonight, but excited to hear ytc again, so I added it. Removed now ;)
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Actually I won
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Actually I won
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Yes, but Father and Son its played in its entirety, and then linked with Hill farmer blues, so two songs. In the Dark was the night case, its just an intro to Miss you blues, a small slide piece played before the main track.
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I only pop in here occasionally now but, having argued for a wider range of songs in concert from Mark, I am delighted to read that he has done just that. I had hoped that he might pick up that approach from "Mr Bob" and, whether "Mr Bob" was the influence or not, Mark seems to have adjusted his approach to song choice in concert and I, for one, am delighted. Maybe Mark's people actually read our prattling here and, once in while, respond. Whatever, "Bravo!".
Regrettably, "Mr Bob", on his current tour, has gone in the opposite direction, limiting his song choice considerably, with minimal variation from show to show. Maybe, he picked that approach up from MK. Who knows?
Whatever my personal feelings on the matter, however, I still defend the performer's right to deliver just what he or she damn well wants.
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What if the reason of this, its play a wide range of songs to arrive with that songs well played when he gets to the RAH and then record all nights and in the end release a 2cd record with those songs, leaving out the DS classics, so more space to his solo songs? :think
It would be a dream if that could happen. And that would be a nice explanation of why the RAH shows can
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Keep on dreaming Jbaent :)
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By the time he will reach the RAH he may change only song from one night to another. We are still quite early on the tour and Mark is experiencing.
The big question is does "SOS" to be dropped for good?
Doing it some nights and not others may sounds a bit harsh for people that come for the first time are have no luck because they are just there the bad night for them.
I experienced that situation with PONO and TOL and steel feel bad about this over 20 years after!
From the point of view that 99% of the attendance see only one show on the tour, to me a setlist with almost not variation is not a problem.
If we decide to do multiple show it is our business.
This year is a very big gamble...
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Yes, I have the same concern... what if in my concert he plays Bonaparte, but the next day that I wont be there he plays Gator blood?
For example :o
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It's quite funny really; for years we've wanted change and now we're not happy with it! It's of course down to the songs he's changing and when we thought about change we assumed it would be the "little" songs for rarities and not the mainstays he's played for ever. This is just far too radical and when the ultimate is dropped then enough is enough. I think it's great to see the passion it's stirred up on the forum though - it shows just how much Mark's music means to us all.
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Yes, I have the same concern... what if in my concert he plays Bonaparte, but the next day that I wont be there he plays Gator blood?
For example :o
Outch! Now that is a tough one to take! :smack
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I think the setlist will change even more, starting with Amsterdam, when Ruth Moody joins the tour and then in UK, when we will have Nigel Hitchcock. Then at the RAH - Ruth AND Nigel! It could get very interesting! 8)
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If we refer to the rehearshal picture and comment, Nigel will probably perform on a song that is already part of the current setlist.
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Nigel will play for sure in songs we already know.
I asked Guy if they had any song waiting for the UK dates to be played, without any real answer from Guy, and some xxxxxx told me that "If I know the DS catalogue I
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Although it is not usual for Mark to invite the opening artist to duet with him on his set this time is different situation as Ruth Moody sings on the album so I would bet it will happen at least in London.
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It's quite funny really; for years we've wanted change and now we're not happy with it! It's of course down to the songs he's changing and when we thought about change we assumed it would be the "little" songs for rarities and not the mainstays he's played for ever. This is just far too radical and when the ultimate is dropped then enough is enough. I think it's great to see the passion it's stirred up on the forum though - it shows just how much Mark's music means to us all.
Absolutely true about everything you said !! SOS has to stay in the set. Not for us getalifers, but for the majority of the fans that might have come to see MK for the first time. Frankly, even for myself, I loveeeee to hear it at every show. It's a signature song. Now, I wonder if PC has anything to say about MK's decision to drop SOS at certain cities. Rememeber, he probably will look at it more from the business prospectives, how the fans will react, future ticket sales etc etc.. ??? Yes, MK can play whatever he wants to play. I will always respect that side of the argument, but what about the business side of it? Perhaps, MK doesn't care, since he's not doing it for solely monetary gains, or is he? I thought about this yesterday. This could fire up a passionate discussions for our beloved MK ??? :)
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Some night, some performance of SOS have not been up to the standard it deserve, I have witnessed erratic soloing on it.
But Turino 2013 sounded very good to my ears. False impression or did I get the good spot?
The following night in Milano, Mark encountered something that sounded like a technical problem with one string that prevented him to perform it properly.
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Here's me feeling a bit let down because "Mr Bob" has kept to a pretty standard set list for his recent tour and here are some of you, having commented adversely on Mark's repetitious set lists in the past, getting concerned because he fails to play some old "war horse" every night. These are Mark Knopfler shows, not Dire Straits shows for goodness sake! Get with the programme! Stop living in the past. He's a performing artist. He can't rest on his laurels. He has to change and develop or his artistry will wither - and you don't want that.
"Mr Bob" wrote a 2-verse version of "Blowing In The Wind" in April 1962, added a third verse a little later and recorded the song we know in July 1962. He didn't always perform it in the following period but, with its release on album in May 1963 and with Peter Paul and Mary have a huge hit with it in the summer of 1963, it became, as it were, his signature song and he performed it for a few months. Come 1964, however, it disappeared from his set list and, as far as we know, it wasn't performed at all during the 1964, 1965 or 1966 when he was at the height of his public popularity. Dylan moved on and, whatever the expectations of his audience, he was true to his art. He didn't pander to his audience. You had to keep up with him. That's the way it was and that's the way it should be.
Getting back to Mark, I hope he doesn't repeat the same jokes and between-song banter night after night.
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Some days without new songs, "Prairie wedding" was the last.
If we believe that Italian Amiter who listened to the soundchecks, they have still to play "True love will never fade"
I hope they still have some songs to play, waiting for Nigel in the UK ;D
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If we believe that Italian Amiter who listened to the soundchecks, they have still to play "True love will never fade"
Oh, they'll get around to it at my concerts! ::)
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I just read on Guy's forum that they've rehearsed 36 songs..! Instead of 30 as was told before?
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I just read on Guy's forum that they've rehearsed 36 songs..! Instead of 30 as was told before?
Guy said 30+
Now we know the number.
I wonder if more numbers make the list during soundchecks...
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I bet for Radio City, with Nigel on sax, as one of the songs waiting for the UK shows when Nigel arrives.
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I bet for Radio City, with Nigel on sax, as one of the songs waiting for the UK shows when Nigel arrives.
Maybe the songs played with Nigel in the RR gigs: MFN (would be great), WOL (hope not !), STP.
And maybe Your Latest Trick, great sax demo.
And if I dream.... Submariner ! :)
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I bet for Radio City, with Nigel on sax, as one of the songs waiting for the UK shows when Nigel arrives.
Maybe the songs played with Nigel in the RR gigs: MFN (would be great), WOL (hope not !), STP.
And maybe Your Latest Trick, great sax demo.
And if I dream.... Submariner ! :)
Just for fun I tried to make my own set list of the 30 songs played so far on the tour :)
1) What It Is
2) Corned Beef City
3) Privateering
4) Father And Son
5) Hillfarmer's Blues
6) Yon Two Crows
7) 5.15 AM
8) Romeo And Juliet
9) Sultans Of Swing
10) Gator Blood
11) Postcards From Paraguay
12) Kingdom Of Gold
13) Marbletown
14) Speedway At Nazareth
15) Telegraph Road
16) Brothers In Arms
17) Going Home
This would be a dream for me. What do you think ? :wave :wave :wave
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The show in Turin is best so far compared to my list 8)
15 songs out of 16 played that night is on my wish list :D :D :D
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I bet for Radio City, with Nigel on sax, as one of the songs waiting for the UK shows when Nigel arrives.
Maybe the songs played with Nigel in the RR gigs: MFN (would be great), WOL (hope not !), STP.
And maybe Your Latest Trick, great sax demo.
And if I dream.... Submariner ! :)
Just for fun I tried to make my own set list of the 30 songs played so far on the tour :)
1) What It Is
2) Corned Beef City
3) Privateering
4) Father And Son
5) Hillfarmer's Blues
6) Yon Two Crows
7) 5.15 AM
8) Romeo And Juliet
9) Sultans Of Swing
10) Gator Blood
11) Postcards From Paraguay
12) Kingdom Of Gold
13) Marbletown
14) Speedway At Nazareth
15) Telegraph Road
16) Brothers In Arms
17) Going Home
This would be a dream for me. What do you think ? :wave :wave :wave
I love your list ! Both YTC and KOG, all the DS tunes but the disposable SFA, Postcards, SAN,... I would be delighted to get it.
I would add Piper, love it, and Back to Tupelo, I think it was played live better than on the album, I'm surprise that I like to listen to it often now !
To make room for these two, I would remove Gator Blood (not my fave) and Corned Beed City, but that's not going to happen, it is quite sitcky...
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They have played 30 different songs now and apparently rehearsed 36.
It is probably safe to assume RT and TLWNF make it 32/36(after having been soundchecked). So 4 tunes left(if I am correct) :hmm
I'm hoping for : OES, Silvertown and BR make up 3 of the 4 left.
I seriously doubt it though :-\
By the way SFA must be the most underwhelming song MK has performed on his tours for years.....why he persists playing it regular is beyond me :hmm
I must take my concerns to Guy, I'm sure I'll get a measured, articulate and informative answer(especially if I mention eggs and Range Rovers in the message) :-X...He's good that way.
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They have played 30 different songs now and apparently rehearsed 36.
It is probably safe to assume RT and TLWNF make it 32/36(after having been soundchecked). So 4 tunes left(if I am correct) :hmm
I'm hoping for : OES, Silvertown and BR make up 3 of the 4 left.
I seriously doubt it though :-\
By the way SFA must be the most underwhelming song MK has performed on his tours for years.....why he persists playing it regular is beyond me :hmm
I must take my concerns to Guy, I'm sure I'll get a measured, articulate and informative answer(especially if I mention eggs and Range Rovers in the message) :-X...He's good that way.
I think that this "alone in the dark" or whatever it is called does not really count for one song. Maybe F&S does not count either, so potentially you could get 1 or 2 more songs :)
The 3 you mention are a dream... as much as I would love it, I bet more on STP (with sax as), maybe WOL with sax (argh !), WAM (with sax) and maybe MFN...
BR was a great opener, I'm not sure how it could fit in the setlist as a non-opener as its intro is quite long and would break the rythm... unless it takes the role of the opener again... but I don't think there was ever a DS/MK concert were the opener was changed.. would be a first ! :)
I agree with you on SFA. The only way to turn this little pop tune into a masterpiece is to play first the calypso version as in Sydney'86 ! I love it! and the transition between the calypso part and the normal part is just awesome...
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What a great list already so far! Is not it the dream of every member in sbd quality to get all these different numbers on a collective stick Otherwise you about later buy 15 sticks, which is very expensive ... what do you think?
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Anybody has an updated list for me ?
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Hey, jbaent, could you please post your excel list again, updated? It's very nice to follow the progression of the tour
Thanks
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Hey, jbaent, could you please post your excel list again, updated? It's very nice to follow the progression of the tour
Thanks
exactly ! ;D
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Songs played this tour
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thanxs ! :clap
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Thank you, Nito! That's really impressive! :thumbsup
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So these are the GREENies Mark did during the first 12 .... very impressive! Great! ;D
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Great! I'm looking forward to tomorrow in Amsterdam!
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(....) means first played in city ...
The first 16 are played in Bucharest, so I won't modify, I am lazy, sorry
I added "Dark was the night" as it is kind of mentioned as a song.
01 What it is
02 Corned beef city
03 Privateering
04 Father and son
05 Hill farmer
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33 likely but 34 would be awesome but would be the biggest surprise.
How long since Mark resurected a DS catalogued song not already performed during the solo years?
Last one I get in mind is Why Worry in 2006 [although was already part of the 1998/1999 NHB gigs], then you have to go back to YLT in 2002 from the "almost Dire Straits" part.
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Noticed this today in Guy's Diary:
" Soundcheck was used practicing a few of the tune we are hoping Ruth Moody may come and join us for tomorrow's Amsterdam show. Of course Ruth will be our support for that show as well as the Royal Albert Hall shows and some of the French gigs."
I am looking forward to Ruth joining the band on stage and hopefully, one of the songs will be Seattle! Can't wait! ;D
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Talking about tomorrow's gig, a guitar contest took place and the winner was supposed to play with MK , no?
Or is it my imagination ?
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That's correct! It's before the gig
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The winner gets to jam with Mark before the gig.
He said on the radiostation which held the contest that he hoped he would get invited on stage during the gig!
Don't know if this can/will happen and I also have no idea in ehich song he could participate!?
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I would be really surprised that a stage invitation would happend but who knows, if Mark see a musical genius.
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The winner gets to jam with Mark before the gig.
He said on the radiostation which held the contest that he hoped he would get invited on stage during the gig!
Don't know if this can/will happen and I also have no idea in ehich song he could participate!?
He/she could do Richards old part on IDUAD. Mark looks almost asleep playing it anyway so maybe this would keep him (and the audience) awake during the pacy foot tapper! ;)
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Songs played this tour
Thanks, Nito! Very well done!
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Songs played this tour
Thanks, Nito! Very well done!
Thanks, will update regularly :D
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Thank you, Nito, that is exactly what I was hoping someone would put together- helps decide what sticks to buy! Thank you so much!!
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Update (next update after Royal Albert Hall shows) ;D
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Thank you NitO! :thumbsup
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Thank you Nito for this list! :clap
The man who won the guitar contest and had his jam session with Mark, was on TV Friday. He was able to play about an half hour with Mark. He wasn't a real fan and told Mark was a normal and nice person and he got some tips about how to breath while playing.
I hope we could watch a little part of the jam session, but we didn't. Perhaps TV camera's were not allowed. :smack
Fieneke
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Thank you Nito for this list! :clap
The man who won the guitar contest and had his jam session with Mark, was on TV Friday. He was able to play about an half hour with Mark. He wasn't a real fan and told Mark was a normal and nice person and he got some tips about how to breath while playing.
I hope we could watch a little part of the jam session, but we didn't. Perhaps TV camera's were not allowed. :smack
Fieneke
That's a bit of a pity; I'd have liked it to go to a real fan who would perhaps appreciate it a little more, but if he won then I suppose he deserved it. Thanks for letting us know what happened with that. :thumbsup
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I'm about to compile a setlist that i can listen to in my car. I want to have all the songs played (so the setlist looks like the one on the first page here).
But i really don't want to listen to all tracks and then decide which one to take.
What do you think: from which concert should i take What it is, from which one Corned Beef City, and so on...? Where do you think did Mark play the best versions this year? Concerning Kingdom of Gold it's clear to me: Turin! What a song!!!
Maybe this is worth a new sticky topic? I would apreciate it while putting together a best-of setlist for my mp3-player :)
Thanks in advance!
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I'm about to compile a setlist that i can listen to in my car. I want to have all the songs played (so the setlist looks like the one on the first page here).
But i really don't want to listen to all tracks and then decide which one to take.
What do you think: from which concert should i take What it is, from which one Corned Beef City, and so on...? Where do you think did Mark play the best versions this year? Concerning Kingdom of Gold it's clear to me: Turin! What a song!!!
Maybe this is worth a new sticky topic? I would apreciate it while putting together a best-of setlist for my mp3-player :)
Thanks in advance!
I would use Istanbul as a base for your list, this concert is stunning. Special mentions to WII, SOS and TR - all energetic and well recorded. Some say Sofia is the best, it is quite good but I still prefer Istanbul.
For YTC I quite like Lubjana - almost as good as Saskatoon.
For KOG, IDUAD, and Seattle, I think Amsterdam with Ruth is a clear choice :)
For RAJ, IUTC and GH you may want to get a UK show with Nigel.
For other songs, I would stay with their first occurence, generally quite good (but I've not listened to the UK ones, and it seems that there is quite a lot of experimentation since the UK, so I may change my mind !).
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Thanks for your professional advice! ;)
I will put your choice into my playlist.
Maybe someone likes to contribute something else? (as i said: this have to be made sticky ;D)
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list of songs updated
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now that the setlist has settled
this is my view
MK solos inspiration 9/10
Quality of the band 9/10 (10/10 with Danny Cummings)
Songs in the setlist 2/10
Ha Ha Ha
LE
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I didn't really have the time to follow the tour closely so far, but from what I've seen here and on local-hero.org, these are easily the best MK setlists of all time! I'd never have dreamed that he'd ever play 5.15 AM, or Tupelo again, and I didn't dare to wish for Gator Blood or Seattle. Wow. :clap
Now if someone could just be so kind and destroy Guy Fletcher's synth pads, my ideal of a perfect MK show might eventually become reality. :lol
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2/10 is outrageous. It would say 6/10 - it could have been a 9, but I can't forgive the drop of YTC, best song on the album, the often drop of Sultans, and the drop of Border Reiver, best opener of all times !
This being said, TR is better than 2008/2010 (still not on par with 96/2001/2005), and this alone makes me happy !
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Since "Miss you blues" was played twice, and one of them without "Dark was the night", I think its fair to consider it not as an intro but as a song...
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Since "Miss you blues" was played twice, and one of them without "Dark was the night", I think its fair to consider it not as an intro but as a song...
Not so important anymore... They won't reach 35-36 songs... I think it will stuck at 31. No more surprises since quite a long time. (Bremen the last one with Diamond?) Happy to witnessed that one live :)
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Actually it was a short intro, it wasn't played as a whole song (father and son is a whole song, maybe a little shorter, but still).
So for me it's a bridge, just playing a little funny and create a bridge. I don't count it as a song.
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we can add submariner ;)
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we can add submariner ;)
yeah................
I hope Nito will do, I love his excel overview :wave
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we can add submariner ;)
yeah................
I hope Nito will do, I love his excel overview :wave
Same here...
:clap :clap :clap
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(....) means first played in city ...
The first 16 are played in Bucharest, so I won't modify, I am lazy, sorry
I added "Dark was the night" as it is kind of mentioned as a song.
01 What it is
02 Corned beef city
03 Privateering
04 Father and son
05 Hill farmer
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Update (in two posts to see all the shows)
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THANK YOUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUU :clap :clap :clap
love it, great job :thumbsup
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Thank you very plenty Ingrid and Nito!!!
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Here's a great stats page, by David Perval (LocalHero) !
http://www.local-hero.org/markontour/tour/20130/stats
Great job David !
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Good job indeed, this might help into compiling a best of Privateering Tour cd containing all played songs. What im just wondering if PFP is played 'only' 52 times out of 56, in what other song the band was introduced? DWB?
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Good job indeed, this might help into compiling a best of Privateering Tour cd containing all played songs. What im just wondering if PFP is played 'only' 52 times out of 56, in what other song the band was introduced? DWB?
If I'm correct Mark didn't introduce the band at all during the first 2 concerts and as usual between Sultans and Done With Bonaparte during concert #3 and (I guess, don't have the recording) between Song for Sonny and Done With Bonaparte during concert #4. From then on Postcards was used for the introductions.
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Good job indeed, this might help into compiling a best of Privateering Tour cd containing all played songs. What im just wondering if PFP is played 'only' 52 times out of 56, in what other song the band was introduced? DWB?
If I'm correct Mark didn't introduce the band at all during the first 2 concerts and as usual between Sultans and Done With Bonaparte during concert #3 and (I guess, don't have the recording) between Song for Sonny and Done With Bonaparte during concert #4. From then on Postcards was used for the introductions.
you're totally correct Stefancock :thumbsup
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Nito, very good job indeed ! Thanks.
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No band intro for #1 and #2 ??? Unusual for Mark, don't you think?
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Last update ;)
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Thanks for the list. Makes me wonder off the songs that did not made it this tour. They rehearsed 36....
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In soundcheck there were:
Redbud Tree and True Love Will Never Fade
They didn't make it, so there were another 3 we don't know :hmm
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i bet one off those could be a DS song... A few years ago they rehearsed The man's too strong for a tour but well it did not make it to the setlist :smack
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In soundcheck there were:
Redbud Tree and True Love Will Never Fade
They didn't make it, so there were another 3 we don't know :hmm
I really hoped that Redbud Tree was played. Lovely song, among the best on the album :think
TLWNF, not a song that I miss.......
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TLWNF, not a song that I miss.......
Neither me but still better than hearing the other two he did during the KTGC tour, "Secondary Waltz" or "The Fish and the Bird".
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i bet one off those could be a DS song... A few years ago they rehearsed The man's too strong for a tour but well it did not make it to the setlist :smack
mainly because Mark had a motorcycle accident ;D :smack
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I believe it was for the KTGC tour... The list of songs was given true Guy on his website......
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Last update ;)
thanks for the last update , great job on this one :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
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TLWNF, not a song that I miss.......
Neither me but still better than hearing the other two he did during the KTGC tour, "Secondary Waltz" or "The Fish and the Bird".
Strange album KTGC..........few tracks that I like......Punish The Monkey,....... Behind With The Rent,....... Madame Genevas....... :)
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i bet one off those could be a DS song... A few years ago they rehearsed The man's too strong for a tour but well it did not make it to the setlist :smack
mainly because Mark had a motorcycle accident ;D :smack
No, for that tour I think it was the song On Every Street that was in the pipe.
I believe it was for the KTGC tour... The list of songs was given true Guy on his website......
I think you are right.
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Update (in two posts to see all the shows)
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@Nito
some corrections for show no 25, London 29th May:
played: so far away, i dug up a diamond, sonny liston, shangri-la
not played: gator blood, brothers in arms, kingdom of gold
No of songs: 18
thanks for you job ..
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What a piece of work this is! Just to let you know Nito that your efforts are not in vein and are very much appreciated.
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What a piece of work this is! Just to let you know Nito that your efforts are not in vein and are very much appreciated.
+1000