A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Wario on January 19, 2024, 06:40:28 PM
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I created this topic to comment live on the day of the auction.
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Hopefully, if anyone is at or following the auction on line, a note will be kept of how much each item sells for ?
Much as I'd love to bid on a cheaper item ( lap steel or mandolin? ) common sense tells me not to, and I'm not available to attend or follow it online. :(
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Hopefully, if anyone is at or following the auction on line, a note will be kept of how much each item sells for ?
Much as I'd love to bid on a cheaper item ( lap steel or mandolin? ) common sense tells me not to, and I'm not available to attend or follow it online. :(
All realised prices will be available on the website.
If you decide to bid, you can place an absentee bid in advance (before 30 January).
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locking it until the auction so it does not get filled too much :-)
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Unlocking the thread.
Oh the excitement :D
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https://www.youtube.com/live/m7kT8HKTnb0?si=ngBOzmdlsNfb1Gai
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Will stream it on my TV. Working from home has its benefits ;D
I'm really curious to see what kind of prices his guitars will be selling for, even the non-essential ones.
Do we have any bidders at AMIT?
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Will stream it on my TV. Working from home has its benefits ;D
I'm really curious to see what kind of prices his guitars will be selling for, even the non-essential ones.
Do we have any bidders at AMIT?
Euromillions screwed me again last night so not for me :)
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Will stream it on my TV. Working from home has its benefits ;D
I'm really curious to see what kind of prices his guitars will be selling for, even the non-essential ones.
Do we have any bidders at AMIT?
Euromillions screwed me again last night so not for me :)
;D
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Will stream it on my TV. Working from home has its benefits ;D
I'm really curious to see what kind of prices his guitars will be selling for, even the non-essential ones.
Do we have any bidders at AMIT?
The prices for those non-essential ones are interesting. I mean, there are guitars that Mark has received as an gift and possbily played couple of notes or not. Possibly someone would like to have a guitar from MK's collection at any cost and that could increase also price of these. Or not. :think
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Will stream it on my TV. Working from home has its benefits ;D
I'm really curious to see what kind of prices his guitars will be selling for, even the non-essential ones.
Do we have any bidders at AMIT?
I placed a bid online for the 1984 red/black Pensa Suhr, but I did it more out of novelty than anything else. I'm obviously not going to get that guitar
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Will stream it on my TV. Working from home has its benefits ;D
I'm really curious to see what kind of prices his guitars will be selling for, even the non-essential ones.
Do we have any bidders at AMIT?
The prices for those non-essential ones are interesting. I mean, there are guitars that Mark has received as an gift and possbily played couple of notes or not. Possibly someone would like to have a guitar from MK's collection at any cost and that could increase also price of these. Or not. :think
It's funny what they write in the blurb for many of the non-essential guitars: "From time to time, Knopfler kept this guitar in his study for home use." I'd say the B.S. factor is pretty high ;D I mean, some of those instruments he's probably hardly even looked at.
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I have a interest in one specific not so iconic piece. Let's see where it goes.
+1 working from home too ;D
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I have a interest in one specific not so iconic piece. Let's see where it goes.
+1 working from home too ;D
I'm tempted to run out to get a beer and potato chips ;D
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I have a interest in one specific not so iconic piece. Let's see where it goes.
+1 working from home too ;D
Hagström 1971? ;)
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I have a interest in one specific not so iconic piece. Let's see where it goes.
+1 working from home too ;D
Hagström 1971? ;)
Apart from it being made 50 kilometres from where I live? Couldn't possible say :)
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The end of a few eras today folks. I'm quite emotional and excited at the same time.
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5 minutes to go
https://www.youtube.com/live/m7kT8HKTnb0?si=ngBOzmdlsNfb1Gai
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Will Mark be there?
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Few seconds to go-.. now
Excitement and also one tear in an eye
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JI there at the back middle? Orange chair.
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Lot #32 has been withdrawn... one of the Pensas
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Paused! MK about to run in and call it all off while singing Mrs Robinson. :)
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The end of a few eras today folks. I'm quite emotional and excited at the same time.
exactly the same feelings...
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Seems to be a lot of technical issues
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Is he having second thoughts!
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Is he having second thoughts!
Would be so funny.
But according to people there it is technical issues with the livestream.
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Yes, announcer left 15 minutes ago saying they'd be back in 2!
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Is Guy there aswell as John?
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Yes, announcer left 15 minutes ago saying they'd be back in 2!
if you ask Guy when it will start, he would answer "soon"... :lol :lol ;D
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What is happening??
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Yes, announcer left 15 minutes ago saying they'd be back in 2!
if you ask Guy when it will start, he would answer "soon"... :lol :lol ;D
So that will be 4 years time then!
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She just came back on and said something but no audio for me
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Yes, announcer left 15 minutes ago saying they'd be back in 2!
if you ask Guy when it will start, he would answer "soon"... :lol :lol ;D
So that will be 4 years time then!
:lol :lol
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Well, I for one have never seen such an amateurish auction and I shall be taking my millions elsewhere.
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Well, I for one have never seen such an amateurish auction and I shall be taking my millions elsewhere.
maybe it's MK management at the board ! :lol :lol
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Technical issues. I am actually registered to bid, with no realistic hope of actually getting one, but was in. It seemed to glitch, so I refreshed, it kicked me out, and has not let me back in.
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Seems they are having some fair major tech issues here. A lot of people saying they’ve been kicked out of the auction system online.
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Money for Nothing and Clips for free ;D
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Seems they are having some fair major tech issues here. A lot of people saying they’ve been kicked out of the auction system online.
I'm still in. But haven't refreshed and I'm anxious to do so now.
And possibly bidding.
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A very long break.
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Seems they are having some fair major tech issues here. A lot of people saying they’ve been kicked out of the auction system online.
I'm still in. But haven't refreshed and I'm anxious to do so now.
And possibly bidding.
Don't refresh yet! You won't get back in.....
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Tell you this. It wouldn't have happened to the German Christie's ;D
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I was registered on a bid online and the page automatically refreshed and when it loaded, I was signed out
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Just got a mail from Christie's:
Dear All Christie’s Live Bidders,
The Mark Knopfler Guitar Collection Sale is currently delayeddue to a technical issue.
Please standby as we will be back online soon. We appreciate yourpatience and apologise for any inconvinience caused.
Sincerely,
CHRISTIE’S
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Just got a mail from Christie's:
Dear All Christie’s Live Bidders,
The Mark Knopfler Guitar Collection Sale is currently delayeddue to a technical issue.
Please standby as we will be back online soon. We appreciate yourpatience and apologise for any inconvinience caused.
Sincerely,
CHRISTIE’S
Christie's is not ahead of the game
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Just got a mail from Christie's:
Dear All Christie’s Live Bidders,
The Mark Knopfler Guitar Collection Sale is currently delayeddue to a technical issue.
Please standby as we will be back online soon. We appreciate yourpatience and apologise for any inconvinience caused.
Sincerely,
CHRISTIE’S
Christie's is not ahead of the game
They are behind with the rent (of their IT infrastructure).
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They need to hurry because Mark's afternoon nap is coming into danger this way
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Tell you this. It wouldn't have happened to the German Christie's ;D
10 years ago I would have agreed to that. Nowadays not too sure... ::)
LE
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Tell you this. It wouldn't have happened to the German Christie's ;D
10 years ago I would have agreed to that. Nowadays not too sure... ::)
LE
;D
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This scandal is in need of private investigation..... ;D
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Buyer's premium is just 26 percent of the sale price. Maybe they sold themselves short and don't have the funds to get the technical stuff right.
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poor Mark ! even his guitars auction is in the same amateurish league as his musical career managment...
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I think we’ve got time for a quick bacon roll…
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I think we’ve got time for a quick bacon roll…
Do these technical issues make us victims of industrial disease?
;D ;D
Sorry, I'll stop now....
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sh...! I had time up to 3:30, but after that no.
I will miss all the auction :disbelief >:(
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At least they had coffee in the lobby for the visitors.
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Delayed about as long as the new album. Well...
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This should start so far away back
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Could be something wrong with the twiddly bits? ;D
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Delayed about as long as the new album. Well...
According to Guy this is the best auction they have ever done.
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Might be the last famous guitar auction held at Christie's ;D
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Unfortunate mishap really but a great opportunity for the worst puns ever.....
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Delayed about as long as the new album. Well...
According to Guy this is the best auction they have ever done.
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Delayed about as long as the new album. Well...
According to Guy this is the best auction they have ever done.
;D
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Delayed about as long as the new album. Well...
According to Guy this is the best auction they have ever done.
LOL!
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Delayed about as long as the new album. Well...
According to Guy this is the best auction they have ever done.
lol
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Bit of a long five minutes now.
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I've got to go back to work in 15 minutes, does anyone think I can sit my students in front of the auction and call it music therapy? :D
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I’m beginning to wonder whether this auction is actually going to happen today. Obviously it’s a pretty major fault.
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"Calling Christie's, is anybody home?"
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I’m beginning to wonder whether this auction is actually going to happen today. Obviously it’s a pretty major fault.
Makes 'This ones not going to end well' look like a prophecy....
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I’m beginning to wonder whether this auction is actually going to happen today. Obviously it’s a pretty major fault.
Makes 'This ones not going to end well' look like a prophecy....
This one’s not even going to start at this rate!
1350 now and Mark is technically still the owner of all those lots…
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Somebody in the room at Christie’s has been on the YouTube chat and has said that the auction won’t start until 1400 at best.
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I’m beginning to wonder whether this auction is actually going to happen today. Obviously it’s a pretty major fault.
Makes 'This ones not going to end well' look like a prophecy....
This one’s not even going to start at this rate!
1350 now and Mark is technically still the owner of all those lots…
Wonder if the demand was greater than they expected?
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Missed opportunity to play the Alchemy clip of Telegraph Road
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Guy is changing the tubes from the microphone and testing the right voltage for it because the auction will be recorded on tape.
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I’m beginning to wonder whether this auction is actually going to happen today. Obviously it’s a pretty major fault.
Makes 'This ones not going to end well' look like a prophecy....
This one’s not even going to start at this rate!
1350 now and Mark is technically still the owner of all those lots…
Wonder if the demand was greater than they expected?
It shouldn't even happen. 600 million people saw Live Aid in the 80s without any glitches. :)
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I’m beginning to wonder whether this auction is actually going to happen today. Obviously it’s a pretty major fault.
Makes 'This ones not going to end well' look like a prophecy....
This one’s not even going to start at this rate!
1350 now and Mark is technically still the owner of all those lots…
Wonder if the demand was greater than they expected?
It wouldn’t surprise me. That being said, Christie’s are experienced at doing this sort of thing. You’d think they had planned for all contingencies.
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Guy is changing the tubes from the microphone and testing the right voltage for it because the auction will be recorded on tape.
;D ;D ;D
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Quote - The Mark Knopfler Auction is delayed due to unprecedented level of interest
Wow!
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Nooooo
I was logged in on the bidder's section from the start. Now all of the sudden the page started to refresh.
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Quote - The Mark Knopfler Auction is delayed due to unprecedented level of interest
Wow!
Blimey. I knew there would be a good deal of interest but this is quite incredible.
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Due to unprecedent level of interest.
So... the Christies IT Team, aparentely, not performed a Stress Test on his servers.
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Due to unprecedent level of interest.
So... the Christies IT Team, aparentely, not performed a Stress Test on his servers.
Unprecedented level of interest...
It's as if they were going to auction my guitars
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Due to unprecedent level of interest.
So... the Christies IT Team, aparentely, not performed a Stress Test on his servers.
Well, yes. You’d think they’d have the appropriate systems in place for just such an eventuality.
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Right, I'm going to change the thread title to Dead Guitar Auction.
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Let's just lock it for another week
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Maybe they used Horizon software!
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Now, had MK had a management with do-ers they would have arranged to stream another single from the new album.
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Now, had MK had a management with do-ers they would have arranged to stream another single from the new album.
If you believe Christies then that would have broken the internet completely :D
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Now MK will be forever known as the guy who broke Christie's. Only 2.2K people watching online and even fewer people bidding are not impressive numbers, I'm shocked it was too much for them though.
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Maybe they used Horizon software!
Topical Val but i don't think even Horizon was as bad as this debacle :smack
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Well, yes. You’d think they’d have the appropriate systems in place for just such an eventuality.
Mark's nephew is broadcasting the auction on his Pentium III Compaq notebook. The BG sound system is mixed and sended to the notebook's soundboard.
"The best of the old meets the best of the new."
KNOPFLER, Mark
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Only 2.2K people watching online and even fewer people bidding
I noticed that too.
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The sale will start at 3pm London time
As I will be bidding, Christie's called to advise, apologize for the delay and check I'm still ok to bid.
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Well, yes. You’d think they’d have the appropriate systems in place for just such an eventuality.
Mark's nephew is broadcasting the auction on his Pentium III Compaq notebook.
;D Love it!
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Wonder if there's any chance of this actually happening today ::)
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Now MK will be forever known as the guy who broke Christie's. Only 2.2K people watching online and even fewer people bidding are not impressive numbers, I'm shocked it was too much for them though.
Is that after 2hrs of blank screen and does it include those watching via their smart TVs? I suppose most watchers will just be the hardcore fans tbh. The rest will just be interested in what the big ticket items sold for.
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Wonder if there's any chance of this actually happening today ::)
Time Will Tell And Sorrow
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Wonder if there's any chance of this actually happening today ::)
3pm GMT apparently.
Edit: confirmed now on their site.
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Wonder if there's any chance of this actually happening today ::)
3pm GMT apparently.
Edit: confirmed now on their site.
:thumbsup
Just seen that on the Youtube feed
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https://www.instagram.com/p/C2wcvr7sMTH/
Very nice new pic by Chris Whitten today mentioning the auction
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Auction site appears to be back up. I am in again.
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Auction site appears to be back up. I am in again.
Me too
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Wonder how many who had to give up by now?
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I think 1pm GMT/ 8am EST (New York) was way too early for american bidders, maybe that's the reason for the change
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Finally
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Finally
LOL
I'm probably so f-ed ;D
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Disappointing she's not doing the funny auctioneer noises.
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Hofner bidding already nuts.....
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Disappointing she's not doing the funny auctioneer noises.
I like her :)
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Omg ... This is so exciting! 35k pounds on Lot 1 now. Can you imagine the MK1?!!!!
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wow
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I think this is low compared to Gilmour.
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I think this is low compared to Gilmour.
yep
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bit early to say on 1st lot. Adamas 6 string made £100K !
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£100K for the Ovation lot#2 is solid
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Dylan fans on the phone lines.
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5 minutes for each lot is a 6-hour show 8)
MK1 is lot #17
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5 minutes for each lot is a 6-hour show 8)
MK1 is lot #17
I mean, there's quite a lot of crap later on :)
Still, this is nuts for the black Schecter tele.
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That Lady is quite charming. She could sell me anything.
LE
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This Lady is cool......
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https://www.christies.com/auction/the-mark-knopfler-guitar-collection-21929-cks
Full list is already updated with prices realised (including extra 26% auction tax)
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That Lady is quite charming. She could sell me anything.
LE
Make sure you check the price is pounds or dollars before agreeing anything.
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220k for the black tele!!!
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243k not including tax for the black Schecter. Who's buying these really? I'm blown away already and we're probably not close to the really interesting lots. :o
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£65k relatively cheap for the Alchemy PI guitar...
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£65k relatively cheap for the Alchemy PI guitar...
yes indeed. I would have bet far more than the Ovation...
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243k not including tax for the black Schecter. Who's buying these really? I'm blown away already and we're probably not close to the really interesting lots. :o
London bank managers or diamond traders?
They're playing with a month's salary on their part.
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£65k relatively cheap for the Alchemy PI guitar...
Expected more too.
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Red Schecter
Brace yourselves
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Who is no 243? Proper animal.
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Who is no 243? Proper animal.
Mark himself
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Tele Walk of Life basically half a million euros all included ;D
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Who is no 243? Proper animal.
Mark himself
By proxy ;D
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Uh oh…here comes the BIA Les Paul. How much do we think?
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Uh oh…here comes the BIA Les Paul. How much do we think?
+500
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Mark's first Les Paul... lies!
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Careful not to slip on the bidding button here. ;D
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Toy guitar next :D
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Toy guitar next :D
Toy but not so cheap :D
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If I remortgage my house I can afford a neck ;D
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Who is no 243? Proper animal.
Could be Marco Caviglia or Terence Reis ;D
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The Pensa MK1 up next. It’ll be hard to see this one go.
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What a robbery!!
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What a robbery!!
Was expecting more for the MK1.
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MK1 I thought much higher, still about 600K euros all included
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Talking about expectations... I knew Pensa would go basically for free. What a bargain!
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Who is no 243? Proper animal.
Could be Marco Caviglia or Terence Reis ;D
Hopefully not! Couldn't stand the sight of it ending up in a cover band.
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Hopefully not! Couldn't stand the sight of it ending up in a cover band.
Cover band with an italian accent
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Hopefully not! Couldn't stand the sight of it ending up in a cover band.
Cover band with an italian accent
I can hardly imagine tribute band guys being as obnoxious as to buy Mark's actual guitars at an auction. It's a little bit creepy if you ask me.
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Imagine it was your job to stand and take orders from rich fuckers on a phone.
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LOL ;D
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Imagine it was your job to stand and take orders from rich fuckers on a phone.
Sonner will be on the hands of some 10yo Sheik's son.
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Imagine it was your job to stand and take orders from rich fuckers on a phone.
I prefer imagine my job was to take and show the guitars in hand and looking at them so closely
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Imagine it was your job to stand and take orders from rich fuckers on a phone.
Sonner will be on the hands of some 10yo Sheik's son.
If they were rich they would not buy a guitar that's on the cover of the auction and in a million videos of MK for the price of a used Ferrari.
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Some of these prices aren't TOO crazy.
Might be a chance for people to pick up a lap steel or something as a souvenir.
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Some of these prices aren't TOO crazy.
Might be a chance for people to pick up a lap steel or something as a souvenir.
LOL
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do you think they will stop the Auction this evening and continue it tomorrow ?
It will be far too long, isn't it ? :think
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If I had known that the MK1 would be sold for around €470,000, I would have bid as well.
(just kidding)
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If I had known that the MK1 would be sold for around €470,000, I would have bid as well.
(just kidding)
A little higher, 504K GBP, almost 600K euro, including the 26% auction fee
https://www.christies.com/auction/the-mark-knopfler-guitar-collection-21929-cks
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do you think they will stop the Auction this evening and continue it tomorrow ?
It will be far too long, isn't it ? :think
Auctions I've been to usually have a break and change auctioneer. Maybe they'll just keep going.
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do you think they will stop the Auction this evening and continue it tomorrow ?
It will be far too long, isn't it ? :think
Auctions I've been to usually have a break and change auctioneer. Maybe they'll just keep going.
Plus balalaikas and miscellaneous guitars will be sold in a matter of seconds, they will be pushed hard to show them fast enough.
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Did the Dobro get confused with the National? ;D
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this Duolian more than the Chet Atkin nylon Alchemy guitar.... :disbelief :disbelief
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Did the Dobro get confused with the National? ;D
it is where you understand byers are not die hard fans ;D :lol
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this Duolian more than the Chet Atkin nylon Alchemy guitar.... :disbelief :disbelief
And the red signature fenders will also go for a lot more, even if they're not the '61. The image is just more present in the collective imaginary, I suppose.
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Did the Dobro get confused with the National? ;D
it is where you understand byers are not die hard fans ;D :lol
100% true
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this Duolian more than the Chet Atkin nylon Alchemy guitar.... :disbelief :disbelief
And the red signature fenders will also go for a lot more, even if they're not the '61. The image is just more present in the collective imaginary, I suppose.
yes I understand, but the nylon guitar should have been big in the collective imaginary imho.
Mark used it a lot between 82 and 86, lot of live pics with it, and you can call it the "private investigations" guitar
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now the amp which was used for MFN and BIA
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now the amp which was used for MFN and BIA
and also Cleaning my gun
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Total yard sale for the 59 :)
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Is the big guy in the audience is the same big guy from the first row of the 2009 Prince's Trust show?
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Swooosh
No luck with the Hagström
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Any AMITer who's got lucky tonight?
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At times, this auction isn't at a fevered pace, and I'm loving the "technical issue" small talk.....
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I was out for an hour and now the Lady has changed ... ??? :'(
LE
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it's one like these that i don't get; a recent reissue Gibson, never played by Mark, even 'disliked' because of the weight; and it goes for 70.000! More than a played, vintage Gibson Super 400 even!
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Amazing. The 1960 ‘335 went for £70K. The 2005 Historic ‘59 went for the same figure!
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I was out for an hour and now the Lady has changed ... ??? :'(
LE
After lot #42 (highest price paid today) the lady changed and also Christies CEO spoke a little bit
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What was lot #32? Don't remember
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I was out for an hour and now the Lady has changed ... ??? :'(
LE
After lot #42 (highest price paid today) the lady changed and also Christies CEO spoke a little bit
Hey thank you! It is all very faszinating and frustrating at the same time.
LE
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What was lot #32? Don't remember
Golden Heart caramel Pensa
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Fascinating to watch although no sound as i am at work dipping in and out.There are people out there with serious money.Different world.
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Did I just watch 16k for the balalaika. :o
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Did I just watch 16k for the balalaika. :o
Russian mafia never sleeps!
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Putincaster
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Currently around 4 900 000 GBP :o
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What was lot #32? Don't remember
Golden Heart caramel Pensa
Why was it pulled back?
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Putincaster
This Putincaster went for nearly 2,000,000 rubles, you can buy a nice used car for this money. Something like 2014 Audi A5. Nice 8)
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What was lot #32? Don't remember
Golden Heart caramel Pensa
Why was it pulled back?
It was Mark's decision. No further information was given. Maybe he felt a bigger sentimental attachment to it.
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İs Mark the owner of the Teisco guitars factory ;D
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This auctioneer's got an Alchemy shirt on! ;D
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Yes and he is very good at his job.
LE
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Why is it that I see this guy doing the host of ESC :lol
LE
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Same price for the Dove (unseen apart from Studio's pics) and the J200 Celebrity played with Chet on videos ? :smack
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The auction was mentioned on our main news in Germany!
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Butch Boswell (the man behind Mark's most limited and expensive signature guitar yet) wrote:
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The Mark Knopfler Christie’s auction is going gangbusters! One of Rudy’s “Pensa” guitars sold for 400,000GBP earlier which made me so proud to even be involved with a name so synonymous with guitar lore. And then, the 1959 Les Paul ‘Standard’ hit the podium. Started at 100,000GBP, and in a matter of minutes closed at 550,000GBP ($698,500). This is not some sort of cash grab either. So much of the proceeds will go to 4 different charities that Mark regularly pours money into. In the middle of the auction, Christie’s announced that they had never experienced such an overwhelming response from potential bidders calling and registering, and as the prices soared, so did the willingness to donate. Christie’s announced that they would increase their charitable donation by another 50,000GBP. The primary Auctioneer even had to stop and announce that this had been a highlight of her career. This was all after Lot 42, the 59’ LP. There are still well over 60 guitars to go I believe. And of course, the comments of Mark’s generosity, kindness, patience poured in, as I would have expected. I’ve never witnessed anything so grand, so exciting in the guitar world. Amazing.
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I dunno, guys. There's so much praise coming from these "official" figures all the time. Why, it's the best auction on the planet. I think I get it. Mark Knopfler is the greatest guitar player and songwriter to ever walk the Earth. "Ahead Of The Game" is the best song ever written. Amen.
As you can see, even though I have at least some MK following, I prefer not to say anything publicly neither about the auction nor about the new song. The 1959 Les Paul went almost for its street price, and the glorified MK-1 has entirely flopped everybody's expectations.
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Same price for the Dove (unseen apart from Studio's pics) and the J200 Celebrity played with Chet on videos ? :smack
The Dove is a 1965 guitar and it looks immaculate. The J200 is much more recent at 1985.
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Butch Boswell (the man behind Mark's most limited and expensive signature guitar yet) wrote:
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The Mark Knopfler Christie’s auction is going gangbusters! One of Rudy’s “Pensa” guitars sold for 400,000GBP earlier which made me so proud to even be involved with a name so synonymous with guitar lore. And then, the 1959 Les Paul ‘Standard’ hit the podium. Started at 100,000GBP, and in a matter of minutes closed at 550,000GBP ($698,500). This is not some sort of cash grab either. So much of the proceeds will go to 4 different charities that Mark regularly pours money into. In the middle of the auction, Christie’s announced that they had never experienced such an overwhelming response from potential bidders calling and registering, and as the prices soared, so did the willingness to donate. Christie’s announced that they would increase their charitable donation by another 50,000GBP. The primary Auctioneer even had to stop and announce that this had been a highlight of her career. This was all after Lot 42, the 59’ LP. There are still well over 60 guitars to go I believe. And of course, the comments of Mark’s generosity, kindness, patience poured in, as I would have expected. I’ve never witnessed anything so grand, so exciting in the guitar world. Amazing.
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I dunno, guys. There's so much praise coming from these "official" figures all the time. Why, it's the best auction on the planet. I think I get it. Mark Knopfler is the greatest guitar player and songwriter to ever walk the Earth. "Ahead Of The Game" is the best song ever written. Amen.
As you can see, even though I have at least some MK following, I prefer not to say anything publicly neither about the auction nor about the new song. The 1959 Les Paul went almost for its street price, and the glorified MK-1 has entirely flopped everybody's expectations.
Never mind, I guess you said more than enough the last couple of days about nearly evetything. ;)
LE
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I dunno, guys. There's so much praise coming from these "official" figures all the time. Why, it's the best auction on the planet. I think I get it. Mark Knopfler is the greatest guitar player and songwriter to ever walk the Earth. "Ahead Of The Game" is the best song ever written. Amen.
As you can see, even though I have at least some MK following, I prefer not to say anything publicly neither about the auction nor about the new song. The 1959 Les Paul went almost for its street price, and the glorified MK-1 has entirely flopped everybody's expectations.
Don't forget to add the fee's. See screenshot
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Same price for the Dove (unseen apart from Studio's pics) and the J200 Celebrity played with Chet on videos ? :smack
The Dove is a 1965 guitar and it looks immaculate. The J200 is much more recent at 1985.
Oh yeah got it now :) thanks
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Never mind, I guess you said more than enough the last couple of days about nearly evetything. ;)
LE
It's a pity my posts receive so much negativity and condescending responses, as I'm just trying to look past praise, past accomplishments and any other filters you can think of and write directly from my heart. It's easy to just accept and praise everything all the time. I often miss a more detailed and critical look at things on this forum in the sea of approval and justification, and this is why I write and troll so much.
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It's become quite boring.
Nothing has gone very high, the LP'59 is a disappointment and obviously a bargain for whoever has that kind of money.
Yet nothing is affordable, even the shitty guitars are out of range.
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Never mind, I guess you said more than enough the last couple of days about nearly evetything. ;)
LE
It's a pity my posts receive so much negativity and condescending responses, as I'm just trying to look past praise, past accomplishments and any other filters you can think of and write directly from my heart. It's easy to just accept and praise everything all the time. I often miss a more detailed and critical look at things on this forum in the sea of approval and justification, and this is why I write and troll so much.
You say you troll. And then wonder if you get negative responses, lol. Of course there is appraisal, this is a fan forum. ???
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It's become quite boring.
Nothing has gone very high, the LP'59 is a disappointment and obviously a bargain for whoever has that kind of money.
Yet nothing is affordable, even the shitty guitars are out of range.
Close to 900k USD is not a bargain when add the fees plus VAT.
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It's become quite boring.
Nothing has gone very high, the LP'59 is a disappointment and obviously a bargain for whoever has that kind of money.
Yet nothing is affordable, even the shitty guitars are out of range.
Very true!
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It's become quite boring.
Nothing has gone very high, the LP'59 is a disappointment and obviously a bargain for whoever has that kind of money.
Yet nothing is affordable, even the shitty guitars are out of range.
I totally agree!
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The real toy guitar is soon at fricking 1000 GBP :lol
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Guys, it's been a fun day, lets keep it fun :)
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You say you troll. And then wonder if you get negative responses, lol. Of course there is appraisal, this is a fan forum. ???
See, you already accusing me of something I never meant. I do troll SOMETIMES. Barely. The vast majority of the time I write sincerely. Nothing wrong with a little bit of trolling anyway. As for the fan forum, does being a fan make you a positive appraisal machine? I don't think so. Quite the contrary. I just have a lot to say, please forgive me.
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Forever Young modified strat goes for 100k :clap
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You say you troll. And then wonder if you get negative responses, lol. Of course there is appraisal, this is a fan forum. ???
See, you already accusing me of something I never meant. I do troll SOMETIMES. Barely. The vast majority of the time I write sincerely. Nothing wrong with a little bit of trolling anyway. As for the fan forum, does being a fan make you a positive appraisal machine? I don't think so. Quite the contrary. I just have a lot to say, please forgive me.
I’ll forgive you, water under the bridge. Only if it’s in the centre of the screen;-)
All good
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Forever Young modified strat goes for 100k :clap
That’s a cool looking strat. Love the pickups
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Forever Young modified strat goes for 100k :clap
That’s a cool looking strat. Love the pickups
Not the same from the day he played with Bob Dylan.
The guitar will be delivered with 3 combination : original pickups / lipstick from the day he played with Bob Dylan / these lipstick
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Forever Young modified strat goes for 100k :clap
That’s a cool looking strat. Love the pickups
In fact, all 4 Red Strats went for about 100 grand each. The Strat is still the real MK guitar. The margin is even bigger than for Martins.
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It's become quite boring.
Nothing has gone very high, the LP'59 is a disappointment and obviously a bargain for whoever has that kind of money.
Yet nothing is affordable, even the shitty guitars are out of range.
I expected the 59 to go at least 750k hammer price.
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It's become quite boring.
Nothing has gone very high, the LP'59 is a disappointment and obviously a bargain for whoever has that kind of money.
Yet nothing is affordable, even the shitty guitars are out of range.
I expected the 59 to go at least 750k hammer price.
Yes, the prices are disappointing indeed. As I wrote the previous message I thought, FENDER STRATS OWNED AND USED BY MARK KNOPFLER, his arguably most iconic guitars people associate him with, one of which is a freaking 1/1 artist's prototype, which is even documented in 2009 live shows, all went for 100K minus taxes and commissions or whatever.
Tells you a lot, or probably everything you need to know about Mark's popularity. He wanted to be less famous, he got it, and now we have the numbers to prove it.
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It's become quite boring.
Nothing has gone very high, the LP'59 is a disappointment and obviously a bargain for whoever has that kind of money.
Yet nothing is affordable, even the shitty guitars are out of range.
It seems that The "cheaper" guitars attract the "artist premium", but that the guitars that have a higher intrinsic value don't benefit from this in the same way. If his 59 Les Paul makes the ballpark figure for that model I consider that's reasonable. What i find astounding is that Ekos and Teiscos made so much more than their estimate, which must be partly due to Mark's ownership(and they are not all "shitty" - Japan produced some good instruments in the 60s compared to some of the cheaper alternatives) and they do have that retro tone Mark wanted on Shangri La & KTGC. But yes, £13K was ridiculous for a cigar box guitar.
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It's been interesting to watch. I can't help thinking though after all these sales more should have been given to charity, and yes I'm talking about MKs proportion. I've gone from excited interest to slight disgust at the amounts of money involved, and what money sits behind winning bids.
I'm grateful to have been able to view them for free but the whole exercise provokes feelings of inequality; maybe that's just a wider comment on the society I live in.
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It's become quite boring.
Nothing has gone very high, the LP'59 is a disappointment and obviously a bargain for whoever has that kind of money.
Yet nothing is affordable, even the shitty guitars are out of range.
I expected the 59 to go at least 750k hammer price.
Yes, the prices are disappointing indeed. As I wrote the previous message I thought, FENDER STRATS OWNED AND USED BY MARK KNOPFLER, his arguably most iconic guitars people associate him with, one of which is a freaking 1/1 artist's prototype, which is even documented in 2009 live shows, all went for 100K minus taxes and commissions or whatever.
Tells you a lot, or probably everything you need to know about Mark's popularity. He wanted to be less famous, he got it, and now we have the numbers to prove it.
Some guitars are ridiculously overpaid so I don't think you can say anything about Mark's popularity. Let alone prove anything.
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It's been interesting to watch. I can't help thinking though after all these sales more should have been given to charity, and yes I'm talking about MKs proportion. I've gone from excited interest to slight disgust at the amounts of money involved, and what money sits behind winning bids.
I'm grateful to have been able to view them for free but the whole exercise provokes feelings of inequality; maybe that's just a wider comment on the society I live in.
Imagine how it feels to watch it from a third-world country. I don't need to imagine :lol
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TCT project announced in februari
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Some guitars are ridiculously overpaid so I don't think you can say anything about Mark's popularity. Let alone prove anything.
David Gilmour's black Partcaster which from what I can tell was modified a lot went for almost the entire yield of Mark's auction. He'll generate more with the signed Teenage Cancer Les Paul, but that's cheating.
Mark's guitars, on the other hand, are meticulously crafted and constructed, most of the time with his exact specifications in mind. And then being kept in pristine condition with care, barely showing any playing wear. And used on some great recordings, both video and audio. I don't know what's overpaid where and why one can still argue that Mark is popular when he's not.
You can bet even if Mark put out his other iconic guitars, like the National, it would also generate the "meh" outcome. It would sell for 400 grand just like Pensa.
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It's been interesting to watch. I can't help thinking though after all these sales more should have been given to charity, and yes I'm talking about MKs proportion. I've gone from excited interest to slight disgust at the amounts of money involved, and what money sits behind winning bids.
I'm grateful to have been able to view them for free but the whole exercise provokes feelings of inequality; maybe that's just a wider comment on the society I live in.
I too think 25% is way too little. And the whole thing is really a bit of a bizarre freakshow. Especially in light of how totally messed up our world is right now.
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Some guitars are ridiculously overpaid so I don't think you can say anything about Mark's popularity. Let alone prove anything.
David Gilmour's black Partcaster which from what I can tell was modified a lot went for almost the entire yield of Mark's auction. He'll generate more with the signed Teenage Cancer Les Paul, but that's cheating.
Mark's guitars, on the other hand, are meticulously crafted and constructed, most of the time with his exact specifications in mind. And then being kept in pristine condition with care, barely showing any playing wear. And used on some great recordings, both video and audio. I don't know what's overpaid where and why one can still argue that Mark is popular when he's not.
You can bet even if Mark put out his other iconic guitars, like the National, it would also generate the "meh" outcome. It would sell for 400 grand just like Pensa.
What is the point you are trying to make? David Gilmour can be considered a bigger and/or more popular artist and that's perfectly fine.
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The estimates were a little conservative.
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The estimates were a little conservative.
This sums it up ;D
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Well that was it. A lot of fun, a lot of sadness.
I pray they will end up in in great caring musical homes or with professional artists who knows how to play. Time will tell if any artists will choose to display any winnings.
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The live broadcast is over and so is this live thread.
Let's move the conversations to the main topic shall we.