A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => One Deep River / The Boy => Topic started by: JF on March 27, 2024, 02:11:28 PM
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I just listened to the album right now
here are my first impressions :
https://textes-blog-rock-n-roll.fr/mes-premieres-impressions-du-nouvel-album-de-mark-knopfler/
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Thanks very much. Looking forward to it more and more now!
Only one celtic song and some guitar too.
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Oooooooooooh nice!! Will you write in English on here?
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Oooooooooooh nice!! Will you write in English on here?
I just copied into Google translate. Worked well.
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Sounds really promising JF... Can you rate it from 1/10?
So there are solo's it seems... Nice! ;D
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I absolutely love what you have written, JF! It is so much more worth when it comes from someone like you who knows MK and DS as an fan/expert and not "only" as a journalist. You described the songs very good and it was very uplifting for me to read certain song names as a comparison in it. I am not able to say how you liked it, though.
Thanks for your Review!
LE
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these are just first impression at a firts listen..
I may write other things later...
@dutchessy, it's difficult to rate it now...
I'd say it has the Tracker mood, as it is low, calm, a little bit americana, but with an overall production-sound that made me think more to All the road running or DTRW, in terms of global sound
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Oooooooooooh nice!! Will you write in English on here?
I just copied into Google translate. Worked well.
and I think that Deepl is even more accurate
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Merci beaucoup JF!
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What's your favourite song(s) at first listen?
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What's your favourite song(s) at first listen?
I'd say One deep river, this one not going to end well, and two pairs of hands
but it may change quickly ;D
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Tunnel13 (some interviewer compared it with DS/BIA), scavanger's yard and smart money sounds good in your description... Are they any good? ;D
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Tunnel13 (some interviewer compared it with DS/BIA), scavanger's yard and smart money sounds good in your description... Are they any good? ;D
yes they are good. :D
as for Tunnel13, I thought to kingdom of gold, more than BIA,
scavanger's yard is a bit strange. some bits like good on you son or back on the dancefloor
smart money sounds good, but I prefer when the guitar sounds "crunchy". Here it's 100% clean. I am listening to it again now, and yes it's good. ;D
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it's obvious I need more listen ;D
What I wrote could be different and more developped, as I listening it for the 2nd time ;D
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Tunnel13 (some interviewer compared it with DS/BIA), scavanger's yard and smart money sounds good in your description... Are they any good? ;D
yes they are good. :D
as for Tunnel13, I thought to kingdom of gold, more than BIA,
scavanger's yard is a bit strange. some bits like good on you son or back on the dancefloor
smart money sounds good, but I prefer when the guitar sounds "crunchy". Here it's 100% clean. I am listening to it again now, and yes it's good. ;D
Thank you!
I like the solo and guitarsound on Nobody's got the gun, if it's something like that it must be goooooood
Enjoy listening! *not jealous at all* ;) :lol
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Thank you for your impressions JF :)
The synth intro/outro we hear in the film One Deep River part 1 is Tunnel 13 or Sweeter Than The Rain?
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Thank you for your impressions JF :)
The synth intro/outro we hear in the film One Deep River part 1 is Tunnel 13 or Sweeter Than The Rain?
the part at 00:48 here ?
https://youtu.be/-xg8Kqu44Yw?t=48
I searched it again, it's not on any of the 12 tracks !
maybe on a bonus track ? or one track from the EP ? :think
the Tunnel 13 intro is not on synth but on background vocals. Beautiful !
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Thank you for your impressions JF :)
The synth intro/outro we hear in the film One Deep River part 1 is Tunnel 13 or Sweeter Than The Rain?
the part at 00:48 here ?
https://youtu.be/-xg8Kqu44Yw?t=48
I searched it again, it's not on any of the 12 tracks !
maybe on a bonus track ? or one track from the EP ? :think
the Tunnel 13 intro is not on synth but on background vocals. Beautiful !
Yes.
What a surprise :think Thank you for your answer.
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That, indeed is surprising haha
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it seems that in the EPK they used some "unreleased" stuff ! ;D :lol
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it seems that in the EPK they used some "unreleased" stuff ! ;D :lol
Or it's actually on one of the 13 bonus songs.
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Nine.
The EP is not a "bonus" but a release on it's own.
LE
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it seems that in the EPK they used some "unreleased" stuff ! ;D :lol
Or it's actually on one of the 13 bonus songs.
yes I think so
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Nine.
The EP is not a "bonus" but a release on it's own.
LE
I was also thinking about The Boy EP.
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It's just a sample of Solid Rock live intro 1992 ;)
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Nine.
The EP is not a "bonus" but a release on it's own.
LE
Yes, but from the same session.
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it seems that in the EPK they used some "unreleased" stuff ! ;D :lol
Or from a song from the vinyl in the limited boxset
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Thank you, very beautiful! Can I come to your house, please? Now? :lol
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JF, how long can you keep the album? Is it "yours" now or is it only availavle a couple of days? I don't know how these things work..
LE
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Thanks for your first impressions, JF. :thumbsup Sounds very promising.
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"Une intro qui surprend car ça ne ressemble en rien à ce qu’à fait Mark Knopfler auparavant"
It's very interesting. JF what do you mean? You can write something more?
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My question for JF: Are ALL songs on the album about playing in a band/touring? :lol
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My question for JF: Are ALL songs on the album about playing in a band/touring? :lol
Ridiculous question.
We know there’s one about a train robbery, and there has to be one about Bob Dylan and another about a boxer as well.
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JF, how long can you keep the album? Is it "yours" now or is it only availavle a couple of days? I don't know how these things work..
LE
it's a professionnal link just to stream the album, no files
it says the link will be dead on the release date
I didn't find te time to listen to a second time yet. I was at a jam yesterday night, and now I'm going to work ;D
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"Une intro qui surprend car ça ne ressemble en rien à ce qu’à fait Mark Knopfler auparavant"
It's very interesting. JF what do you mean? You can write something more?
it's ambient vocals. very "new age" "atmospheric" I'd say. Don't sound like MK used to do imho
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My question for JF: Are ALL songs on the album about playing in a band/touring? :lol
;D :lol
my english is not good, and I didn't find the time to analyse the lyrics yet
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To make it easier to everyone, I used DEEPL to translate JF post to English:
Two Pairs Of Hands
The album kicks off with a JJ Cale vibe, Broken Bones-style with dubbed vocals and muffled guitar in minor key mode. The single has been unveiled today.
Ahead Of The Game
This song was the first to be released as a single in January, so you already know it.
Smart Money
A ballad that reminded me of something between I'm the fool and Nobody's the gun. The chorus is a piano ritornello, but there's also a clean guitar and a pedal steel. A stratocaster solo with such a recognisable sound, followed by the Pedal Steel.
Scavengers Yard
Lots of guitars on this track, a haunting riff that sounds like We Can Get Wild, leitmotif syncopations, a saturated lead guitar that sounds almost like the Pensa Suhr MK1 (which he no longer owns), and typical Richard Bennett tremolo interventions. Mark's voice is dubbed again on the chorus. A surprising bridge with the doctored voice and laughter in the distance...
Black Tie Jobs
Beautiful waltz, with a guitar that seems to be the Pensa MK80, because it sounds like My Bacon Roll. Supporting strings for a rather short track, less than three minutes long.
Tunnel 13
A surprising intro, unlike anything Mark Knopfler has done before. Then Mark's guitar reminds us that it's really him. An airy solo in minor key.
Janine
A mid-tempo ballad in the spirit of True Love Will Never Fade, but with broader arrangements: layers of keyboards and pedal steel. Once again, Mark's voice is doubled on the chorus. Solo on what could just as easily be a Pensa as a Gibson.
Watch Me Gone
This is the second single from the album, which was released in February, so you already know it too.
Sweeter Than The Rain
A disconcerting intro with atmospheric sounds by Guy Fletcher and Mark's voice almost a capella, like at the start of Fare Thee Well Northumberland, but in this case not as deep. This is followed by a slow, sad ballad with an atmosphere reminiscent of Sands of Nevada and Rollin' On. The lead guitar, however, is restrained.
Before My Train Comes
A mid-tempo ballad with a hint of Long Cool Girl, only faster.
This One's Not Going To End Well
Slow ternary ballad. Acoustic guitar and organ. The first and last foray into Celtic instruments on this album. Very melancholy atmosphere.
One Deep River
The title track sounds soothing and serene. An ode to the River Tyne, which Mark Knopfler spent his childhood and teenage years on. Beautiful female backing vocals and an omnipresent guitar, no doubt a Les Paul, answered by pedal steel. A magnificent ballad that brings the album to a masterly close.
An album that sounds as calm overall as the River Tyne. Inevitably, it will take several listens, but I wanted to share my first impressions with you on the spot. Review due on franceinfo for release on 12 April.
Translated with DeepL.com (free version)
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thanks Jbaent :thumbsup
I missed time to do it properly
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Scavengers Yard
Lots of guitars on this track, a haunting riff that sounds like We Can Get Wild, leitmotif syncopations, a saturated lead guitar that sounds almost like the Pensa Suhr MK1 (which he no longer owns), and typical Richard Bennett tremolo interventions. Mark's voice is dubbed again on the chorus. A surprising bridge with the doctored voice and laughter in the distance...
Could be the black Pensa-Suhr, which Guy has said features on the album.
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thanks Jbaent :thumbsup
I missed time to do it properly
If you listen to it again to expand the explanations, please use that translation ;)
Thanks in adavance.
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"Une intro qui surprend car ça ne ressemble en rien à ce qu’à fait Mark Knopfler auparavant"
It's very interesting. JF what do you mean? You can write something more?
it's ambient vocals. very "new age" "atmospheric" I'd say. Don't sound like MK used to do imho
Thank you :) Last question:
But it sounds unnatural?
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"Une intro qui surprend car ça ne ressemble en rien à ce qu’à fait Mark Knopfler auparavant"
It's very interesting. JF what do you mean? You can write something more?
it's ambient vocals. very "new age" "atmospheric" I'd say. Don't sound like MK used to do imho
Thank you :) Last question:
But it sounds unnatural?
it sounds great ;D
yes the vocals seems to have been proceeded very much in mixing/effects, etc... it sounds etheral,aerian, difficult to explain
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"Une intro qui surprend car ça ne ressemble en rien à ce qu’à fait Mark Knopfler auparavant"
It's very interesting. JF what do you mean? You can write something more?
it's ambient vocals. very "new age" "atmospheric" I'd say. Don't sound like MK used to do imho
Thank you :) Last question:
But it sounds unnatural?
it sounds great ;D
yes the vocals seems to have been proceeded very much in mixing/effects, etc... it sounds etheral,aerian, difficult to explain
Listening to "Two pairs of hands" is easy to understand that kind of vocals and what you mean.
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"Une intro qui surprend car ça ne ressemble en rien à ce qu’à fait Mark Knopfler auparavant"
It's very interesting. JF what do you mean? You can write something more?
it's ambient vocals. very "new age" "atmospheric" I'd say. Don't sound like MK used to do imho
Thank you :) Last question:
But it sounds unnatural?
it sounds great ;D
yes the vocals seems to have been proceeded very much in mixing/effects, etc... it sounds etheral,aerian, difficult to explain
Thank you:) . I would like the voice to sound natural:)
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"Une intro qui surprend car ça ne ressemble en rien à ce qu’à fait Mark Knopfler auparavant"
It's very interesting. JF what do you mean? You can write something more?
it's ambient vocals. very "new age" "atmospheric" I'd say. Don't sound like MK used to do imho
Thank you :) Last question:
But it sounds unnatural?
it sounds great ;D
yes the vocals seems to have been proceeded very much in mixing/effects, etc... it sounds etheral,aerian, difficult to explain
Listening to "Two pairs of hands" is easy to understand that kind of vocals and what you mean.
Yes, but I think it was on purpose. There's a similar sound in Broken Bones.
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@Robson and @Jbaent
it's not the same thing. On Two pairs of and, MK's voice is indeed doubled like it was on Broken Bones and on most of JJ Cale's recordings
But the Tunnel13 intro features female background voices that sounds almots like synth landscapes, never heard thins like that on previous MK recordings
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@Robson and @Jbaent
it's not the same thing. On Two pairs of and, MK's voice is indeed doubled like it was on Broken Bones and on most of JJ Cale's recordings
But the Tunnel13 intro features female background voices that sounds almots like synth landscapes, never heard thins like that on previous MK recordings
My heart has never changed? - Ruth Moody
Camerado? - Gillian Welch
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JF, some of your descriptions make me really curious. Scavengers Yard f.e. sounds really good among others. Also Tunnel 13... this will be two very long weeks...
LE
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JF, some of your descriptions make me really curious. Scavengers Yard f.e. sounds really good among others. Also Tunnel 13... this will be two very long weeks...
LE
LE, I agree! But only two weeks! Happy days!
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JF, some of your descriptions make me really curious. Scavengers Yard f.e. sounds really good among others. Also Tunnel 13... this will be two very long weeks...
LE
it's always difficult to find the right words to describe musical sensations...
maybe when you will hear the songs you'll think that my descriptions were a little bit weird... :)
I am teaching today (I'm in pause right now) and tonight I will go to another jam like yesterday, so no much time to listen again and post other impressions, but I will try tommorrow
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@Robson and @Jbaent
it's not the same thing. On Two pairs of and, MK's voice is indeed doubled like it was on Broken Bones and on most of JJ Cale's recordings
But the Tunnel13 intro features female background voices that sounds almots like synth landscapes, never heard thins like that on previous MK recordings
My heart has never changed? - Ruth Moody
Camerado? - Gillian Welch
I see what you mean, but no, it's different. At first time I thought it was synth layers. I had to listen to it again to hear it was vocals.
It's really beautiful, but definitely something not present on any MK previous record, at least to my knowledge
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JF I read your impressions very often and 'my imagination working overtime' ;)
It's interesting that not once did you write that you don't like the song. 15 days.
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OK I finally found the time to listen to the album again :P
I stand to my first impression : the title track is the highlight for me. But it's all a matter of taste of course
tasty lead Les Paul, nice pedal steel, kind of "follow the ribbon" flavour, but witha proper ending, no fade out
I like the background female vocals too
This One’s Not Going To End Well is maybe the most innovative in term of chords-progression. Beacuse the other songs are almost all in very welle known territories, musically speaking. I Like it a lot too. I like melancholic ambiances
I like very much Two pair of hands, but you already know this track.
and well, I like watch me gone too ;D
the overall flavour of the album sounds americana to my ears. But in a slow style. don't expect up-tempo country songs.
Tunnel 13 starts like it could have been the highlight of the album, but... it lacks a great solo on the outro like we are expecting for. A little bit frustrating, in the same way as the studio version of Hill farmer's blues if you see what I mean. There is a solo though, but too short and same repetitive lick
In my "article" (not sure if we can call it like this ;D) I forgot to mention a nice little clean lead guitar on Before My Train Comes. Not sure if it is played with a pick or not, but it sounds a little bit in Hank Marvin's style.
Again, these are just subjective impressions. And you know it's a matter of taste in the end.
Difficult for me to give a global impression. Nice melodies, nice little licks here and there. Sounds and ambiances that sounds MK like we know of course. But I must admit that I didn't have the "Woww" reaction yet.
Dare I say it's a mix between Tracker and KTGC ? :think not sure... but the overall impressions is an album of ballads, melancholic atmposheres (at least to my ears, and I am only speaking music-wise)
Don't know if these words give you some hints for what you can expect... but as you know, I can't divulgue the streaming link which is a professional one, and I must be very careful with it :)
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I should add that the Tunnel13 intro made me think of a kind of Alan Parsons Project style
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another thing the intro in Sweeter than the rain is a bit strange because Lark's voice doesn't match very well Guy's ambient sounds...
when the song really starts, we fianlly know why : it's beacuse the key of the song is not the same as in the intro, and Mark's voice is already in the song key....
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Dare I say it's a mix between Tracker and KTGC ? :think not sure...
Oh, great ... :disbelief
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Thanks JF! Can you find some more words for the rest of the songs maybe? I really enjoy reading this, as long as you are positive lol
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Thanks JF! Can you find some more words for the rest of the songs maybe? I really enjoy reading this, as long as you are positive lol
like I said, my favorites songs at the moment are the opener and the closer
if I should describe the others, here we go :
- Smart money ambiance made me really think to Nobody's got the gun and I'm the fool. Typically same guitar sound, and same kind of drum pattern and also A the end of the first chorus, the lead guitar repeats the end vocal line, but after the 2nd chorus, the lead guitar play a lick which become the recurrent one. Nice tastefull solo in the middle of the song, followed by pedal steel. Then the recurrent leick is played boith by guitar and piano. the outro is the recurrent lick played ad lib with little variations, but not much
- Scavengers Yard has a sort of "broken bones / early bird" pattern, but with great screaming distorted guitar. It sounds like in the OES era (millionaire blues) but not really a solo, more ambiant licks like in Kindgcome come. and Mark's voice sounds like JJ Cale. alongside the distorted guitar is a lick on clean guitar that sounds like we can't get wild. All the song is almost on the same chords. And there's a bridge very strange : Mark's voice sounds like if it was on the phone and you can hear laughs in the background. alosi lot of Synth sounds and there's a middle eight which sounds like Good on you son's chorus. On the outro, there are some Mark's sopken words, and it ends on a laugh in the background
- black tie jobs : starts on acoustic. there are chords orchestra. romantic atmopshere (musically). No drums. little guitar solo, nothing extravagant. proper ending, no fade
- tunnel13 : very emotionnal intro. I love it. female voices I'd say. melody in the first verse sounds like the one in river of grog. then, drums came in for the 2nd verse. ambiance a little bit between Terminal and So far from the clyde. But here, it's straight time. The outro starts great... but a bit frustrating for my taste... not long enough in term of guitar playing. There was the landscape for a great guitar solo, but it isn't there... a shame imho
- Janine : ballad atmophere which make you think you are on the road, in the train, watching landscapes through the window... female background vocals on the (catchy) chorus. Nce simple solo. aerian, but too short. Again, I would have hear more... it's like if the solo in Darling pretty had only few bars if you see what I mean... proper ending, no fade out
- Sweeter Than The Rain : really strange intro. I explained in a previous post. Mark's voice seems out of tune... but it's because Guy's sounds are not in the same key... sounds strange imho. The rest of the song is nice. A kind of Altamira flavour with acoustic guitar. when the clean electric guitar comes in, some bits made me think to Nobody's child, while the voice melody has some Rollin'on licks... proper ending, no fade out
- Before My Train Comes : again a ballad for the road. makes me think to the car was the one but with a faster tempo. Hank Marvin's type of guitar sound. Background vocals on the chorus. Outro in the style of you don't know you're born, but with also pedal steel. fade out
- This One’s Not Going To End Well. Very slow. ternary rhythm. acoustic guitar. romantic/melancholic. I like it a lot. little violin solo. The middle eight has a beautiful not so classic chords progression, repated in the outro. celtic flavour, but not that much. proper ending. no fade out
- One deep river : classic Mark's guitar tone with volume swells. Made me think to if this is goodbye. Very nice. Slow tempo. I love the chorus with female background vocals (made me think to EC songs). Little guitar solo after the first chorus. another one after the second chorus. then pedal steel. again, outro is too short. proper ending, no fade out
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Great read, thank you again!
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Merci JF :) can’t wait to listen to the songs.
I was wondering if there were some keys arrangements by the Doc and you answered my question :)
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Yes, excellent service, thank you very much, JF!
LE
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I detect a certain frustration about missing solos and you are not as enthusiastic as you were when you heard DTRW for the first time. But to me, your impressions sound very promising. I am looking forward to the new album now even more! Also your description "Tracker/KTGC" is a huge positive point for me.
Would you say this record has a complete "album feel" if you know what I mean? (KTGC and TRD are good examples for what I mean, while DTRW is just a wild mixture...)
Don't you have no access to the five bonus tracks?
Just imagine that there will be nine more songs! We are blessed!
LE
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Dare I say it's a mix between Tracker and KTGC ? :think not sure...
Oh, great ... :disbelief
A mix between KTGC and Tracker sounds good to me - they are two of my favourite three MK solo albums, the other being Shangri La. :)
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Dare I say it's a mix between Tracker and KTGC ? :think not sure...
Oh, great ... :disbelief
A mix between KTGC and Tracker sounds good to me - they are two of my favourite three MK solo albums, the other being Shangri La. :)
:)
Neither Tracker nor KTGC is bad. They are good albums with good songs and high quality production. But they are slow, on the whole. Perfect albums for a quiet afternoon when you're in the mood for really listening and paying attention to the lyrics. Another album in that vein just doesn't excite me.
Edit: What I'd love to hear from Mark is something in the style of Leonard Cohen's You Want It Darker. Something sparse and a little sombre.
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Perfect albums for a quiet afternoon when you're in the mood for really listening and paying attention to the lyrics. .
yes exactly my feeling with this new album
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JF, a question. I read in a review posted here that Smart Money is a great piece, the best on the album. Is that true? Is it a DS style up-tempo song or not?
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I detect a certain frustration about missing solos and you are not as enthusiastic as you were when you heard DTRW for the first time. But to me, your impressions sound very promising. I am looking forward to the new album now even more! Also your description "Tracker/KTGC" is a huge positive point for me.
Would you say this record has a complete "album feel" if you know what I mean? (KTGC and TRD are good examples for what I mean, while DTRW is just a wild mixture...)
Don't you have no access to the five bonus tracks?
Just imagine that there will be nine more songs! We are blessed!
LE
you are right. I haven't feel the same ethousisam as DTRW yet.
to me it sounds like a quiet album. You know, the one you listen to at home, sit down on a rockin chair, close to the fire...
Nothing wrong about that, but I didn't find the excitation with a "dynamic" track like I had with trapper man, back on the dance floor,.. or the very touching one song at the time
I bet it will grown on me with time.
yes I find an "album feel", except for Scavengers Yard which is different from the rest, at least to my ears. A little bit like Broken bones doesn't fit with long ccol gril, silver eagle, lights of taormina, wherever I go or river town imho.
I'd say that One deep river album is "calm americana" style so to say....
this afternoon, I'm going to drive for a long trip (3h30) and I will listen to it to see/hear how it works on the road. The weather is rainy, so not really the best context though
sorry for my average english, and a lot of typos in my posts...
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Don't you have no access to the five bonus tracks?
no. the link that was sent to me by Universal has only the 12 tracks from the album
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JF, a question. I read in a review posted here that Smart Money is a great piece, the best on the album. Is that true? Is it a DS style up-tempo song or not?
like I said, to my ears it sounds like a mix between Nobody's got the gun and I'm the fool.
typical MK clean tone, from his solo era (Redbud tree, golden heart, beachcombing, occupation blues, etc...). I wouldn't range it in the DS category
it's mid-tempo. melodic. country flavour. Pedal steel, chords arrangments (or synths ? not sure) in the background, and tasty piano by Jim Cox
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JF, a question. I read in a review posted here that Smart Money is a great piece, the best on the album. Is that true? Is it a DS style up-tempo song or not?
like I said, to my ears it sounds like a mix between Nobody's got the gun and I'm the fool.
typical MK clean tone, from his solo era (Redbud tree, golden heart, beachcombing, occupation blues, etc...). I wouldn't range it in the DS category
it's mid-tempo. melodic. country flavour. Pedal steel, chords arrangments (or synths ? not sure) in the background, and tasty piano by Jim Cox
By "chords" do you mean "strings"?
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JF, a question. I read in a review posted here that Smart Money is a great piece, the best on the album. Is that true? Is it a DS style up-tempo song or not?
like I said, to my ears it sounds like a mix between Nobody's got the gun and I'm the fool.
typical MK clean tone, from his solo era (Redbud tree, golden heart, beachcombing, occupation blues, etc...). I wouldn't range it in the DS category
it's mid-tempo. melodic. country flavour. Pedal steel, chords arrangments (or synths ? not sure) in the background, and tasty piano by Jim Cox
By "chords" do you mean "strings"?
yes. of course you are right. I knew I was writing wrong. :smack
in another post I talked about "chords" for the song Black Tie Jobs. but of course I meant "strings"
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So, from what you wrote, the only two up-tempo songs are AOTG,Two pairs of hand and Scavengers yard, right?
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So, from what you wrote, the only two up-tempo songs are AOTG,Two pairs of hand and Scavengers yard, right?
Scavengers yard is in the same tempo/rhythm as broken bones
Janine and Before My Train Comes are "high" Mid tempo, almost "up" tempo... difficult to say.
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So, from what you wrote, the only two up-tempo songs are AOTG,Two pairs of hand and Scavengers yard, right?
Scavengers yard is in the same tempo/rhythm as broken bones
Janine and Before My Train Comes are "high" Mid tempo, almost "up" tempo... difficult to say.
Thank you JF, always exhaustive in answers. :)
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I detect a certain frustration about missing solos and you are not as enthusiastic as you were when you heard DTRW for the first time. But to me, your impressions sound very promising. I am looking forward to the new album now even more! Also your description "Tracker/KTGC" is a huge positive point for me.
Would you say this record has a complete "album feel" if you know what I mean? (KTGC and TRD are good examples for what I mean, while DTRW is just a wild mixture...)
Don't you have no access to the five bonus tracks?
Just imagine that there will be nine more songs! We are blessed!
LE
you are right. I haven't feel the same ethousisam as DTRW yet.
to me it sounds like a quiet album. You know, the one you listen to at home, sit down on a rockin chair, close to the fire...
Nothing wrong about that, but I didn't find the excitation with a "dynamic" track like I had with trapper man, back on the dance floor,.. or the very touching one song at the time
I bet it will grown on me with time.
yes I find an "album feel", except for Scavengers Yard which is different from the rest, at least to my ears. A little bit like Broken bones doesn't fit with long ccol gril, silver eagle, lights of taormina, wherever I go or river town imho.
I'd say that One deep river album is "calm americana" style so to say....
this afternoon, I'm going to drive for a long trip (3h30) and I will listen to it to see/hear how it works on the road. The weather is rainy, so not really the best context though
sorry for my average english, and a lot of typos in my posts...
JF, I am absolutely impressed how intensively and detailed you are willing to answer all these questions. No need to say sorry from your side, but a big thank you from my side!
LE
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I must add that the more I listen to the songs, the more I like them.
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Thanks for your observations JF! It seems that we get a lot of those nice classic MK strat tones this time, wasn‘t the case with DTRW, I think. What about Tunnel 13, is it more Les Paul driven tone?
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I must add that the more I listen to the songs, the more I like them.
Yesssssss
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Thanks for your observations JF! It seems that we get a lot of those nice classic MK strat tones this time, wasn‘t the case with DTRW, I think. What about Tunnel 13, is it more Les Paul driven tone?
yes classic strat tones, but very clean. Not crunchy like WII, STP oor TOTT unfortunately for my taste
yes Tunnel 13 is indeed more driven tone, but I'm not sur if it is Les Paul, Pensa, Don Grosh, etc... with the arrangments in the background, it has a kind of kingdom of gold flavour to my ears
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Yes, thank you, JF. Since you know Mark's material so well, your comparisons make a lot of sense.
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I must add that the more I listen to the songs, the more I like them.
And that's good news too :)
JF thank you for all the answers. I read with great interest.
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I'm very happy that most of the songs have a proper ending without a fade out. Only Ahead Of The Game, Watch Me Gone and Two Pairs of Hands fade out. If I counted correctly.
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I find it imteresting that the album cover and the title track implies a song about the Tyne but obviously the album sounds more Americana and has nothing to do with it. The bridge however is also on the guitar that is mentioned in the Tunnel 13 lyrics.
LE
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the Tunnel 13 lyrics?
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Yes. In one of the German press reviews I had quoted a line from the lyrics.
LE
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"Tunnel 13 is the place in the song where the beautiful redwood for my guitar came from".
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Yes. In one of the German oress reviews I had quoted a line fron the lyrics.
LE
I thought there was all the text.
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No, it's just that one line.
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No, it's just that one line.
:thumbsup
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I must add that the more I listen to the songs, the more I like them.
I've been listening to the three songs on repeat and love them all.
JF, a big thanks for your answers and your first impressions on the album.
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"I've been listening to the three songs on repeat and love them all"
Me too :)
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JF what do you think about "Before My Train Comes? Is this another personal and autobiographical song?
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I listened to AOTG quite a bit, the other two not much. First of all because I'm not really taken with them, and secondly, I want to save them for the full album experience. How they work in the overall context is important to me.
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JF what do you think about "Before My Train Comes? Is this another personal and autobiographical song?
I didn't pay much attention to the lyrics to be honest.
And we know that when Mark says "my" or "I" in a song, it's not necessarily him.
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JF what do you think about "Before My Train Comes? Is this another personal and autobiographical song?
I didn't pay much attention to the lyrics to be honest.
And we know that when Mark says "my" or "I" in a song, it's not necessarily him.
It’s true.
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JF what do you think about "Before My Train Comes? Is this another personal and autobiographical song?
I didn't pay much attention to the lyrics to be honest.
And we know that when Mark says "my" or "I" in a song, it's not necessarily him.
It’s true.
I tried to figure out the lyrics.
they are not very long
sorry, my english is average, and I don't understand very well.
this I what I could hear :
"That’s my train comin’…
I can’t hear the « wiss of glow » (note sure of these words)… ??? There’s some(thing) you should know
..
Good times together can last you for a while
well a cloud comes from nowhere out of the blue sky
...
Before I leave you and I end up my "guns" (not sure if it's "guns")
Before my train comes"
what I understand is a man who leaves his girlfriend, and the train is a metaphore of a new life. But I could be wrong
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About the same subject as 'Watch me Gone'?
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About the same subject as 'Watch me Gone'?
maybe...
but it can also be another character and not autobiographical... I bet we will never know, because Mark will never give the answer
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JF what do you think about "Before My Train Comes? Is this another personal and autobiographical song?
I didn't pay much attention to the lyrics to be honest.
And we know that when Mark says "my" or "I" in a song, it's not necessarily him.
It’s true.
I tried to figure out the lyrics.
they are not very long
sorry, my english is average, and I don't understand very well.
this I what I could hear :
"That’s my train comin’…
I can’t hear the « wiss of glow » (note sure of these words)… ??? There’s some(thing) you should know
..
Good times together can last you for a while
well a cloud comes from nowhere out of the blue sky
...
Before I leave you and I end up my "guns" (not sure if it's "guns")
Before my train comes"
what I understand is a man who leaves his girlfriend, and the train is a metaphore of a new life. But I could be wrong
"That's my train comin' I can't hear the wiss of glow"
Maybe it could be:
"That's my train comin' I can't hear the whistle blow" ?
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JF what do you think about "Before My Train Comes? Is this another personal and autobiographical song?
I didn't pay much attention to the lyrics to be honest.
And we know that when Mark says "my" or "I" in a song, it's not necessarily him.
It’s true.
I tried to figure out the lyrics.
they are not very long
sorry, my english is average, and I don't understand very well.
this I what I could hear :
"That’s my train comin’…
I can’t hear the « wiss of glow » (note sure of these words)… ??? There’s some(thing) you should know
..
Good times together can last you for a while
well a cloud comes from nowhere out of the blue sky
...
Before I leave you and I end up my "guns" (not sure if it's "guns")
Before my train comes"
what I understand is a man who leaves his girlfriend, and the train is a metaphore of a new life. But I could be wrong
"That's my train comin' I can't hear the wiss of glow"
Maybe it could be:
"That's my train comin' I can't hear the whistle blow" ?
yes Val. I listened to it again and it seems to be that. Thank you
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JF, in your opinion, what could be a possible next single?
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JF, in your opinion, what could be a possible next single?
I'd say that "Before My Train Comes" has a catchy melody, but too much country-folk for radio I think...
"Smart Money" has the typical MK guitar sound, but too slow for radio I think...
"Janine" has a catchy chorus, but again I find it a little bit to much slow/low key for a single
other songs are also too much calm-knopflerish-style if you see what I mean. It's like you would have released Sucker row as single for example :lol
with already 3 singles, I'm not sure there will be another one :think
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JF, in your opinion, what could be a possible next single?
I'd say that "Before My Train Comes" has a catchy melody, but too much country-folk for radio I think...
"Smart Money" has the typical MK guitar sound, but too slow for radio I think...
"Janine" has a catchy chorus, but again I find it a little bit to much slow/low key for a single
other songs are also too much calm-knopflerish-style if you see what I mean. It's like you would have released Sucker row as single for example :lol
with already 3 singles, I'm not sure there will be another one :think
OK, thank you. And how do you see Scavengers Yard? You said it has a beat like Broken Bones, so it's up-tempo, right?
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Thank you for your impressions JF :)
The synth intro/outro we hear in the film One Deep River part 1 is Tunnel 13 or Sweeter Than The Rain?
the part at 00:48 here ?
https://youtu.be/-xg8Kqu44Yw?t=48
I searched it again, it's not on any of the 12 tracks !
maybe on a bonus track ? or one track from the EP ? :think
the Tunnel 13 intro is not on synth but on background vocals. Beautiful !
Yes.
What a surprise :think Thank you for your answer.
I said before that the second track in video 1 (instrumental keyboard) is not excatly the outro from Tunnel 13....
But...
after several listenings... I think (but not sure) that the instrumental part in video EPK is the keyboard part of the outro from Tunnel 13. It's the same key
but not really sure...
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JF, in your opinion, what could be a possible next single?
I'd say that "Before My Train Comes" has a catchy melody, but too much country-folk for radio I think...
"Smart Money" has the typical MK guitar sound, but too slow for radio I think...
"Janine" has a catchy chorus, but again I find it a little bit to much slow/low key for a single
other songs are also too much calm-knopflerish-style if you see what I mean. It's like you would have released Sucker row as single for example :lol
with already 3 singles, I'm not sure there will be another one :think
OK, thank you. And how do you see Scavengers Yard? You said it has a beat like Broken Bones, so it's up-tempo, right?
Yes. Indeed, could be a single in the vein of a mix between Broken Bones / Good on you son
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JF, in your opinion, what could be a possible next single?
I'd say that "Before My Train Comes" has a catchy melody, but too much country-folk for radio I think...
"Smart Money" has the typical MK guitar sound, but too slow for radio I think...
"Janine" has a catchy chorus, but again I find it a little bit to much slow/low key for a single
other songs are also too much calm-knopflerish-style if you see what I mean. It's like you would have released Sucker row as single for example :lol
with already 3 singles, I'm not sure there will be another one :think
OK, thank you. And how do you see Scavengers Yard? You said it has a beat like Broken Bones, so it's up-tempo, right?
Yes. Indeed, could be a single in the vein of a mix between Broken Bones / Good on you son
Thanks so much JF. I already have a very specific idea of the album. I think I'll like it a lot. Thanks again JF!!
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for your info, I asked Universal if they had a streaming link for bonus tracks and the EP, but they replied they don't :(
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for your info, I asked Universal if they had a streaming link for bonus tracks and the EP, but they replied they don't :(
Thank you JF.
Hmm, maybe it's still early for the EP, I don't know for the bonus tracks. :think
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I'm very curious about the bonus tracks.
Mostly they are very good. Some of them even much better than 2 or 3 tracks on the regular album.
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Oh, i like these early impressions of a new album someone gives us! Thanks alot, JF! I can almost hear the songs through your descriptions!
But the reason i'm typing this, has nothing to do with your nice review.
While reading through your text, i stumbled over the word "leitmotiv".
I'm a native German speaker and i know exactly what the word means, but i'm curious about how you pronounce it :D And: What would be the French or English word for it?
It's funny to see German words in other languages like "Kindergarten", "Waldsterben", "Hinterland", "Wunderkind" or "Zeitgeist" :D
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Oh, i like these early impressions of a new album someone gives us! Thanks alot, JF! I can almost hear the songs through your descriptions!
But the reason i'm typing this, has nothing to do with your nice review.
While reading through your text, i stumbled over the word "leitmotiv".
I'm a native German speaker and i know exactly what the word means, but i'm curious about how you pronounce it :D And: What would be the French or English word for it?
It's funny to see German words in other languages like "Kindergarten", "Waldsterben", "Hinterland", "Wunderkind" or "Zeitgeist" :D
in french we pronounce "leitmotif" with an FF in the end
I think the word became "international" so to say
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Same in Spain, we use leit motiv, sounding FF at the end, it's adapted in normal Spanish as other foreign words.
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My Baby blue limited LP Edition is announced for tomorrow. :)
LE