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Previous Tours => 2013 Privateering World Tour => Topic started by: shangri la 1 on May 03, 2013, 06:19:10 AM
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PRIVATEERING TOUR 2013 [C 06]
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3 (!) new songs compared to previous show
29 "new"songs played so far on this tour
SET LIST MILAN
01. What It Is
02. Corned Beef City
03. Privateering
04. Father and Son
05. Hill Farmers Blues
06. Back to Tupelo
07. I Used to Could
08. Romeo & Juliet
09. Sultans of Swing
10. Gator Blood
11. Postcards from Paraguay
12. Marbletown
13. Speedway at Nazareth
14. Telegraph Road
15. So Far Away
16. Piper to the End
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No setlist yet? ??? :lol :clap :wave
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No setlist yet? ??? :lol :clap :wave
I was told there would be no change tonight, only two additions : crows and coyote. :lol :lol :lol
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you there tunnel?
wanna text/whatsapp?
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you there tunnel?
wanna text/whatsapp?
I'd love to but hopefully I won't have a free hand to text. ;)
Will text whenever I can. Probably only after the show. :-[
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I will be online if all goes well tonight and I hope I will get updates like last concerts. Maybe not every song separate, but like yesterday, 2 or 3 the same time.
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I will be online if all goes well tonight and I hope I will get updates like last concerts. Maybe not every song separate, but like yesterday, 2 or 3 the same time.
I'm there too to back you up :wave
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Could be helpfull :D I have the idea that hubby wants to have dinner tonight. I take my ipad with me, because that restaurant gave me their private wifi-code (kind of second home for me, when I am too lazy or too late to cook :P)
But maybe more convenient to send you the setlist and you do it then. We will see, it's still early so decisions about what and where will be made later.
Thanks Dutchessy :thumbsup
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No setlist yet? ??? :lol :clap :wave
:clap :smack LOL
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Maybe I
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Maybe I
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Maybe I
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Maybe I
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STP wil be back tonight ::)
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Could be helpfull :D I have the idea that hubby wants to have dinner tonight. I take my ipad with me, because that restaurant gave me their private wifi-code (kind of second home for me, when I am too lazy or too late to cook :P)
But maybe more convenient to send you the setlist and you do it then. We will see, it's still early so decisions about what and where will be made later.
Thanks Dutchessy :thumbsup
We can do the same next week friday with the Berlin show... And maybe more shows you are attending and i'm not.
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Right Dutchessy, I keep you updated by whatsapp. Bremen we have to find someone else, because you will be there :)
We will see day by day.
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Right Dutchessy, I keep you updated by whatsapp. Bremen we have to find someone else, because you will be there :)
We will see day by day.
I should be able to do it!?
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Great Klaas, when time comes nearer we will PM to exchange phonenumbers :clap
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Maybe I
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Leaving to Milan in a couple of hours
I hope to get Kingdom of Gold cause I'd like to hear how the blue Pensa sounds live, the Pensas all sound pretty different live compared to any recording, especially the Soundboard ones
Soooooo excited for you. I can relate to the anticipation. Hope KOG is played for you. And another great show !!!!!
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Leaving to Milan in a couple of hours
I hope to get Kingdom of Gold cause I'd like to hear how the blue Pensa sounds live, the Pensas all sound pretty different live compared to any recording, especially the Soundboard ones
Have fun Pensaboy! :)
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News from Milano: an Italian member of AMIT is listening to the soundcheck right now.
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So far they played 3 new songs: True Love..., Prairie wedding and the wonderful Back To Tupelo . I really hope they will play Tupelo tonight :thumbsup
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Not True Love... :( Like the sound of Prairie Wedding though - love that. Back to Tupelo - nah, pretty boring.
So that's 3 other songs that they rehearsed then.
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Not True Love... :( Like the sound of Prairie Wedding though - love that. Back to Tupelo - nah, pretty boring.
So that's 3 other songs that they rehearsed then.
I like all of those three! I remember "Back to Tupelo" from the Edinburgh 2005 concert was really beautiful! :)
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Not True Love... :( Like the sound of Prairie Wedding though - love that. Back to Tupelo - nah, pretty boring.
So that's 3 other songs that they rehearsed then.
I like all of those three! I remember "Back to Tupelo" from the Edinburgh 2005 concert was really beautiful! :)
No, no... not TLWNF.... there are so many beautiful songs to play... why go and pick this one, one of the very few I would label as BAD ? :(
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True love will never fade is one of the best mark songs for me, its a really nice song
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True love is for me the most boring song from the Crimson record, I dont know why he choose that one. The fish was good but that record has songs like "Let it all go" that could sound better but...
... but its MK who choose ;D
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I really hope they play Back To Tupelo, I really love this song.
Shangri-La is a wonderful album in my opinion... I love the "californian" sound of the album, especially Summer of love, but it's only a B-side...
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I would like "angel of mercy" but i'm not sure they play it... :lol
(it's just a joke, sorry :wave)
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I would like "angel of mercy" but i'm not sure they play it... :lol
(it's just a joke, sorry :wave)
No?
:think
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John Mc Cusker said he had listened to DS albums in his car driving to London for the rehearsals.
Until now, the only surprises in the setlist are from MK's solo albums...
From DS, I'd like to have The man's too strong in the set !
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I really hope they play Back To Tupelo, I really love this song.
Shangri-La is a wonderful album in my opinion... I love the "californian" sound of the album, especially Summer of love, but it's only a B-side...
Back To Tupelo is great, one of the best from the SL album. Other faves is Boom and Postcards.
Really like Prairie Wedding too. STP is still my fave album by MK.
True Love is a skipper for me at the KTGC album. I love Punish The Monkey and Behind With The Rent.
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Will never forget I met Guy in Oslo before the concert there in 2005, he told us that they might be playing Back To Tupelo that evening. They did, and it was really beautiful. That concert was also the only thing I have attended together with both of my divorced parents :) And because of that BTT brings back some really nice memories of a very special night for me... :)
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I really hope they play Back To Tupelo, I really love this song.
That's my dream too !
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I would be glad if he didn't play anything from KTGC apart from PTM, to be honest the rest of the album is dross- MK's worst album by quite a gap, he's so much better than what was put out on that cd.
I hope he gives OES a go somewhere on this tour.
(Back To Tupelo would be a good choice as well)
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Right Dutchessy, I keep you updated by whatsapp. Bremen we have to find someone else, because you will be there :)
We will see day by day.
Half of the forum is in Bremen, so it doesen't need to be posted live... ;D same with London...
LE
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Which song of these three ever, isn't it awesome what they do this tour? Can anybody remember them playing them such a variety of songs, even rehearsing 3 songs (True Love in the album indeed is not very spectacular, but the Cittern (and Danny's drumming) did a lot to the live version. Really loved that song live! But whatever, it is phantastic to have such a great range of song! I guess it will be an expensive summer (stick-wise...)
LE
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Which song of these three ever, isn't it awesome what they do this tour? Can anybody remember them playing them such a variety of songs, even rehearsing 3 songs (True Love in the album indeed is not very spectacular, but the Cittern (and Danny's drumming) did a lot to the live version. Really loved that song live! But whatever, it is phantastic to have such a great range of song! I guess it will be an expensive summer (stick-wise...)
LE
I must say, I am really really surprised by MK, never thought we would be lucky enough to see such a variation in the setlists! He is almost becoming a Springsteen light now in terms of changing the set each night :)
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Start!
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Ah, that would explain why there's still no setlist here. Been pressing F5 constantly for the last hour... :smack
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Ok guys,
I am ready, don't be impatient. The people want to enjoy the show. Try to do as less as possible on amit besides this thread. As you noticed it is slow and we are kicked out a couple of times last days
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Ah, that would explain why there's still no setlist here. Been pressing F5 constantly for the last hour... :smack
Ah yes, that's the reason the site is slow ;)
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a Shangri La Album Revival ...
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Great! BTT is a great song
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Sorry folks, don't want shot down here (and I appreciate the set variation) but I just don't like Tupelo at all. So boring. ::)
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Again no Yon Two Crows :think :-\
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Again no Yon Two Crows :think :-\
A pity, especially when he persists with IUTC. :disbelief
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Half of the forum is in Bremen, so it doesen't need to be posted live... ;D same with London...
LE
Very considerate, LE..... :P :P :-* :P :P
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The sticks budget increases every day... :smack
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Half of the forum is in Bremen, so it doesen't need to be posted live... ;D same with London...
LE
Very considerate, LE..... :P :P :-* :P :P
(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Roflbig.gif) LE!!!
A big THANK YOU to Ingrid and other fans who keep us all informed about the setlist!
It really is wonderful to see what you all do for us, I know I couldn't do it! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/3511504d6836511af49a93488fbc3c4a1c3.gif)
Fieneke
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Of course! I was just kiddin' of course. :wave
LE
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Gator Blood and Postcards :o wow! Great list tonight
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Gator Blood and Postcards :o wow! Great list tonight
(almost) same as yesterday :P
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Gator Blood and Postcards :o wow! Great list tonight
(almost) same as yesterday :P
And that's not bad at all ;D
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Gator Blood and Postcards :o wow! Great list tonight
(almost) same as yesterday :P
Oops ;D well, it is nice huh! :D
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Gator Blood and Postcards :o wow! Great list tonight
(almost) same as yesterday :P
Oops ;D well, it is nice huh! :D
Yes it is. A set without Sonny is a good one :lol
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Just one change from yesterday by now. Lets see how it ends ;)
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Just one change from yesterday by now. Lets see how it ends ;)
and what change! Awesomeballs!
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01. What It Is
02. Corned Beef City
03. Privateering
04. Father and Son
05. Hill Farmers Blues
06. Back to Tupelo
07. I Used to Could
08. Romeo & Juliet
09. Sultans of Swing
10. Gator Blood
11. Postcards from Paraguay
12. Marbletown
13. Speedway at Nazareth
Wish he could let M go, at least a couple of times this tour
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01. What It Is
02. Corned Beef City
03. Privateering
04. Father and Son
05. Hill Farmers Blues
06. Back to Tupelo
07. I Used to Could
08. Romeo & Juliet
09. Sultans of Swing
10. Gator Blood
11. Postcards from Paraguay
12. Marbletown
13. Speedway at Nazareth
Wish he could let M go, at least a couple of times this tour
Agree, he could play two other songs instead of M
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Drop r&j and this would be his best SETLIST since the 1990 hillbillies tour.....
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Drop r&j and this would be his best SETLIST since the 1990 hillbillies tour.....
You were there Pottel? ;D
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Best setlist since Hillbillies tour? I really liked the golden heart one. Long Highway, A Love Idea, Darling Pretty, Imelda, Are We in Trouble Now, Je Suis Desole, and so on.
Anyway, I really like this set list =)
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No, only the last shows of 1999, but ey are amongst my bsolute favourite knopfler recordings..
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Best setlist since Hillbillies tour? I really liked the golden heart one. Long Highway, A Love Idea, Darling Pretty, Imelda, Are We in Trouble Now, Je Suis Desole, and so on.
Anyway, I really like this set list =)
almost agree, but still a few weak moments...
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No, only the last shows of 1999, but ey are amongst my bsolute favourite knopfler recordings..
He was quote happy plating in all those small places and you can hear that in the recordings:-)
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R&J is great on this tour. His vocal has more passion and the end solo is better too. Even if you aren't fond of the song it's worth it for the end solo surely? That's pure MK.
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I think his overall singing is better than E.g. the GL tour
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I think his overall singing is better than E.g. the GL tour
I agree, and by quite a margin too.
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01. What It Is
02. Corned Beef City
03. Privateering
04. Father and Son
05. Hill Farmers Blues
06. Back to Tupelo
07. I Used to Could
08. Romeo & Juliet
09. Sultans of Swing
10. Gator Blood
11. Postcards from Paraguay
12. Marbletown
13. Speedway at Nazareth
14. Telegraph Road
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Guy said MK had taken singing lessons, maybe he kept doing that?
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R&J is great on this tour. His vocal has more passion and the end solo is better too. Even if you aren't fond of the song it's worth it for the end solo surely? That's pure MK.
I agree, R&J on this tour is the best for a long time. He seems to be singing it with much more feeling and the end solo is to die for! I wouldn't want it to be dropped - I love it! :)
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Drop r&j and this would be his best SETLIST since the 1990 hillbillies tour.....
Hmm..well..I guess that comment can create a healthy discussion ;)
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R&J is great on this tour. His vocal has more passion and the end solo is better too. Even if you aren't fond of the song it's worth it for the end solo surely? That's pure MK.
I agree, R&J on this tour is the best for a long time. He seems to be singing it with much more feeling and the end solo is to die for! I wouldn't want it to be dropped - I love it! :)
One of the best love songs ever made. Hard to ignore........ :)
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01. What It Is
02. Corned Beef City
03. Privateering
04. Father and Son
05. Hill Farmers Blues
06. Back to Tupelo
07. I Used to Could
08. Romeo & Juliet
09. Sultans of Swing
10. Gator Blood
11. Postcards from Paraguay
12. Marbletown
13. Speedway at Nazareth
Wish he could let M go, at least a couple of times this tour
Agree, he could play two other songs instead of M
Yupp, exactly my point! :)
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R&J is great on this tour. His vocal has more passion and the end solo is better too. Even if you aren't fond of the song it's worth it for the end solo surely? That's pure MK.
I agree, R&J on this tour is the best for a long time. He seems to be singing it with much more feeling and the end solo is to die for! I wouldn't want it to be dropped - I love it! :)
The end solo has been known to bring a tear to this mans eye from time to time - I admit it! The passion it's played with and sheer understated brilliance. :-[
Totally agree about dropping Marbletown though. Just a showcase for the other guys but it just goes on and on...
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noo marbletown is amazing so much musicainship between them, another song i love along with sonny but every else dosent seem to like
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noo marbletown is amazing so much musicainship between them, another song i love along with sonny but every else dosent seem to like
It is, but he plays it since 2008 and the song lasts for about ten minutes so I would be happy if he skips that one and plays two other great songs instead:-) I already heard it live :)
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Postcards is a masterpiece ...
Music and Lyrics come together as only a master can write it
The Live Version is brilliant, was brilliant already at the Crimson Sessions in Berlin and Basel
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It seems there was a clip earlier that day? Is it gone?
LE
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noo marbletown is amazing so much musicainship between them, another song i love along with sonny but every else dosent seem to like
It is, but he plays it since 2008 and the song lasts for about ten minutes so I would be happy if he skips that one and plays two other great songs instead:-) I already heard it live :)
Think how bad it is for me because I never liked it right from the start! :smack
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noo marbletown is amazing so much musicainship between them, another song i love along with sonny but every else dosent seem to like
It is, but he plays it since 2008 and the song lasts for about ten minutes so I would be happy if he skips that one and plays two other great songs instead:-) I already heard it live :)
Think how bad it is for me because I never liked it right from the start! :smack
So you were going to get yourself a drink in that ten minutes! ;)
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noo marbletown is amazing so much musicainship between them, another song i love along with sonny but every else dosent seem to like
It is, but he plays it since 2008 and the song lasts for about ten minutes so I would be happy if he skips that one and plays two other great songs instead:-) I already heard it live :)
Think how bad it is for me because I never liked it right from the start! :smack
Me neither..its boring and repetitive..
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01. What It Is
02. Corned Beef City
03. Privateering
04. Father and Son
05. Hill Farmers Blues
06. Back to Tupelo
07. I Used to Could
08. Romeo & Juliet
09. Sultans of Swing
10. Gator Blood
11. Postcards from Paraguay
12. Marbletown
13. Speedway at Nazareth
14. Telegraph Road
15. So Far Away
16. Piper to the End
THE END
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If he changed So Far Away with YTC.. :)
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noo marbletown is amazing so much musicainship between them, another song i love along with sonny but every else dosent seem to like
It is, but he plays it since 2008 and the song lasts for about ten minutes so I would be happy if he skips that one and plays two other great songs instead:-) I already heard it live :)
Think how bad it is for me because I never liked it right from the start! :smack
Funny - I disliked it when I first heard it on the album.
But I've loooved every live version I've ever heard since; starting with the one in the studio of Antenne 20020920 :)
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noo marbletown is amazing so much musicainship between them, another song i love along with sonny but every else dosent seem to like
It is, but he plays it since 2008 and the song lasts for about ten minutes so I would be happy if he skips that one and plays two other great songs instead:-) I already heard it live :)
Think how bad it is for me because I never liked it right from the start! :smack
Me neither..its boring and repetitive..
Album version is poor. Much better played live ;)
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Cool, no Brothers, and Piper! I long for hearing Gator Blood live! These shows (yesterday and today) seem to be a MUST HAVE!!!
LE
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another awesome set and concert may get sticks from lastnite and tonite , just wanna here gator blood live:))
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If he changed So Far Away with YTC.. :)
SFA with Brothers and IUTC with YTC I'd say...
and added DOTDS and Trawlermans for a longer set... :clap
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If he changed So Far Away with YTC.. :)
SFA with Brothers and IUTC with YTC I'd say...
and added DOTDS and Trawlermans for a longer set... :clap
Better than my suggestion, will send MK a textmessage ;D
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01. What It Is
02. Corned Beef City
03. Privateering
04. Father and Son
05. Hill Farmers Blues
06. Back to Tupelo
07. I Used to Could
08. Romeo & Juliet
09. Sultans of Swing
10. Gator Blood
11. Postcards from Paraguay
12. Marbletown
13. Speedway at Nazareth
14. Telegraph Road
15. So Far Away
16. Piper to the End
THE END
Fantastic set again :D
Crows instead of Used and Brothers instead of SFA and there it is the perfect set :)
Turin still the best so far I think......
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I Used To Could is just a little three minutes fun and cannot be changed with a more dramatic tune like Yon Two Crows or Kingdom of Gold. Mark wants a balanced set, and there has to be a little "fun" number - and for me this is better than "Bonaparte Fun"... Plus the guitar work on I Used To Could sounds really great at the Bucharest show, both Mark and Richard. So please: I U T C stays in!
LE
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I Used To Could is just a little three minutes fun and cannot be changed with a more dramatic tune like Yon Two Crows or Kingdom of Gold. Mark wants a balanced set, and there has to be a little "fun" number - and for me this is better than "Bonaparte Fun"... Plus the guitar work on I Used To Could sounds really great at the Bucharest show, both Mark and Richard. So please: I U T C stays in!
LE
CBC and Postcards are little fun numbers too...
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I notice they didn't do PW despite the practice during soundcheck. I guess it was PW or Tupelo. :think
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Also no True love, they soundchecked that one too
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I like all of those three! I remember "Back to Tupelo" from the Edinburgh 2005 concert was really beautiful! :)
That was probably "THE" highlight for me back in 2005.
And Edinburgh wasn't the only show I attended
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they have rehearsed also Our Shangri-La (I guess vs Piper)
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R&J is great on this tour. His vocal has more passion and the end solo is better too. Even if you aren't fond of the song it's worth it for the end solo surely? That's pure MK.
I agree, R&J on this tour is the best for a long time. He seems to be singing it with much more feeling and the end solo is to die for! I wouldn't want it to be dropped - I love it! :)
The end solo has been known to bring a tear to this mans eye from time to time - I admit it! The passion it's played with and sheer understated brilliance. :-[
Totally agree about dropping Marbletown though. Just a showcase for the other guys but it just goes on and on...
Nooooo..... Marbletown is a brillant classic !!!
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Also no True love, they soundchecked that one too
Great it didn't made it for the show :clap
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I like all of those three! I remember "Back to Tupelo" from the Edinburgh 2005 concert was really beautiful! :)
That was probably "THE" highlight for me back in 2005.
And Edinburgh wasn't the only show I attended
I remember that particular show well. The Playhouse is a great venue. That was a great day for me in more ways than one too.
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This one was just posted on youtube! :)
GATOR BLOOD!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwv0LQ_8U7U
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Also no True love, they soundchecked that one too
Love that cittern intro
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This one was just posted on youtube! :)
GATOR BLOOD!
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jwv0LQ_8U7U
Hope for a better version , this one i can't make much out of it what a poor quality ! :think
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R&J is great on this tour. His vocal has more passion and the end solo is better too. Even if you aren't fond of the song it's worth it for the end solo surely? That's pure MK.
I agree, R&J on this tour is the best for a long time. He seems to be singing it with much more feeling and the end solo is to die for! I wouldn't want it to be dropped - I love it! :)
The end solo has been known to bring a tear to this mans eye from time to time - I admit it! The passion it's played with and sheer understated brilliance. :-[
Totally agree about dropping Marbletown though. Just a showcase for the other guys but it just goes on and on...
Nooooo..... Marbletown is a brillant classic !!!
:smack ;)
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just back from the show
I am quite devasted :)
yes Tupelo was played
1st part of Sultans was pretty strange, don't remember exactly why,
final solo even stranger and great
final solo in Telegraph super
same for SFA final solo and pretty long, probably to 'correct' a major error MK did a bit earlier in the song
Hope you have time to write a review of the show. Would love to read about it from AMIT member. :)
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Sultans. As Pensaboy said it was not played in a usual way, missing some of the usual licks but it is great because of that - best so far.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEzv760Ar3w
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Paraguay (fade in)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH9B8R3j11U
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Love Paraguay! :clap :clap Thanks for posting that Rudiger :thumbsup
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Sultans. As Pensaboy said it was not played in a usual way, missing some of the usual licks but it is great because of that - best so far.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEzv760Ar3w
What an awsome and strange solo!! Not the usual famous licks but an new improvised solo it seems?
:clap :clap :clap
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Back to Tupelo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6zyyjzgVC4
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Sultans. As Pensaboy said it was not played in a usual way, missing some of the usual licks but it is great because of that - best so far.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEzv760Ar3w
Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Mark Knopfler! This is why we love him.
I want to attend another concert so badly!!!
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Sultans. As Pensaboy said it was not played in a usual way, missing some of the usual licks but it is great because of that - best so far.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NEzv760Ar3w
Ladies and Gentlemen, Mr. Mark Knopfler! This is why we love him.
I want to attend another concert so badly!!!
What a fantastic quality video , Mark, sound, picture, everything!!!!!!!! :thumbsup :clap I loveeeeee this one so much it put tears in my eyes, because, I couldn't be in any of the shows this tour in Europe. !!! :'( :'( :'( All you lucky people out there, thankkkkk youuuuuu for sharing !!!
Gen T , That's so right ! We LOVE MK soooooo muchhhhhhhhhh !!! I hope you get to attend more !! It's impossible to go to just one or two Mark's concerts. You need to do like Ingrid 17 !!!!! or Isaaac all of them !!!!!! :thumbsup :clap :clap
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Paraguay (fade in)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VH9B8R3j11U
I absolutely loveeee it ! One of Mark's best songs. I used to listen to it over and over and over and never could have enough of it. :) Listening to the studio version right now. The part with Mike and John on the flute is beautiful. Is there a complete song on video some where?
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great sultans, way better then the turin one, really different indeed. BTT always been a favorite of mine. top night.
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Back to Tupelo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6zyyjzgVC4
Mike's debut on the guitar?
LE
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Back to Tupelo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6zyyjzgVC4
Mikey debuting on the guitar?
LE
I didn't notice that! Think so, yes! Is that one of Marks' Martins?
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The sticks budget increases every day... :smack
On Guy's forum the compilation idea has been suggested again today.
I remember guy saying the first time it was "an interesting idea"....
imagine, if there was a DVD/CD release, with a special limited box edition, featuring a special usb stick with a comp of rarely played songs....
If I could give an advice, maybe don't rush to buy all sticks now....wait a little bit...who knows ?
ok ok ok, like Herlock said, I switched to dream off... ;D
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Hi all,
OK Mark's guitar playing is great on this tour as well, Sultans sounds good but oh dear, I can't bear those drums anymore :disbelief :disbelief Is it only cymbals from now on ?? Dear dear dear
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I agree with you Nico. Too much cimbals. I prefer the energy of mk this year but the drumming 2010.
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I agree with you Nico. Too much cimbals. I prefer the energy of mk this year but the drumming 2010.
I agree about the cymbals too, but I wonder if Ian's drumming has powered MK's playing, because he is certainly playing with lots more energy on this tour! I was a bit worried too about Jim's piano on certain songs that Matt had played so beautifully before, eg R&J and TR, but I think he is doing a great job, so no worries now! ;)
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Yes Jim's Romeo & Juliet Intro from Bucharest is really dreamingly wonderful! As the whole rendition is from that classic.
LE
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I agree about the cymbals too, but I wonder if Ian's drumming has powered MK's playing, because he is certainly playing with lots more energy on this tour! I was a bit worried too about Jim's piano on certain songs that Matt had played so beautifully before, eg R&J and TR, but I think he is doing a great job, so no worries now! ;)
I agree with MK playing with renewed energy on this tour. Perhaps the pain he felt in the back in 2010 and the fact that he had to play certain songs like Sultans or Speedway on a chair were responsible of that relative lack of energy.
I miss too Matt on some songs. If you can, listen to the Vancouver 2005 version of Telegraph Road, the band and mainly Matt was on fire that night. Never beaten since and never will be IMO.
As for the drums, there's only one thing to do now : call the same man who already saved the 2005 tour. :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief :clap
Cheers all
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I don't think Ian powered MK. MK just feels well nowadays and he is back to full energy
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I don't think Ian powered MK. MK just feels well nowadays and he is back to full energy
He certainly looks fit and well now, thankfully! :)
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Back to Tupelo:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z6zyyjzgVC4
Mikey debuting on the guitar?
LE
I didn't notice that! Think so, yes! Is that one of Marks' Martins?
yes it seems to be one
as Mike plays cittern, guitar is not really "debuting" for him I guess
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I don't think Ian powered MK. MK just feels well nowadays and he is back to full energy
I do think it has (also) to do with Ian.
The monotonous setlists full of SfSL and other hp songs began after the 2005 tour needed to be "saved".
Nothing personal, really, but I know why Boothbay was so fantastic...
Really a pity something went wrong with CC.
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hp songs?
LE
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I don't think Ian powered MK. MK just feels well nowadays and he is back to full energy
I do think it has (also) to do with Ian.
The monotonous setlists full of SfSL and other hp songs began after the 2005 tour needed to be "saved".
Nothing personal, really, but I know why Boothbay was so fantastic...
Really a pity something went wrong with CC.
+10 :thumbsup
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Back to Tupelo ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Uf2D9Pd24c&feature=youtu.be
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The setlists at the very beginning of the 2005 tour were the same as later, with the only exception of The Trawlerman's song, played only once.
You may like or dislike some band members but I am pretty certain that the choice of songs are nothing to see with the musicians. It's Mark's choice only, Guy confirmed this many times. Mark may like "playing safe" which I don't mind too much after all because the songs remain great, but at last it's good that he varies a bit on this tour.
Talking about musicians, I've just checked the version of Speedway form Milan last evening and funnily (?) compared it with the ones with Emmy back in 2006, which were MILES AHEAD the most recent ones.
Oh and, by the way, were the 2006 setlists boring ?
You may not like DC's style, as I clearly dislike Ian's drumming if you're asking me, but please don't imply that the repetitive setlists were because of Danny being in the band. With all respect, this is insane. >:(
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Hi all,
OK Mark's guitar playing is great on this tour as well, Sultans sounds good but oh dear, I can't bear those drums anymore :disbelief :disbelief Is it only cymbals from now on ?? Dear dear dear
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I agree about the cymbals too, but I wonder if Ian's drumming has powered MK's playing, because he is certainly playing with lots more energy on this tour! I was a bit worried too about Jim's piano on certain songs that Matt had played so beautifully before, eg R&J and TR, but I think he is doing a great job, so no worries now! ;)
I agree with MK playing with renewed energy on this tour. Perhaps the pain he felt in the back in 2010 and the fact that he had to play certain songs like Sultans or Speedway on a chair were responsible of that relative lack of energy.
I miss too Matt on some songs. If you can, listen to the Vancouver 2005 version of Telegraph Road, the band and mainly Matt was on fire that night. Never beaten since and never will be IMO.
As for the drums, there's only one thing to do now : call the same man who already saved the 2005 tour. :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief :clap
Cheers all
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Thanks for the Insanity, Nico... :o but the hp drumming style never fitted the calmer songs. Being an amateur drummer myself I know what it is about.
I do respect DC a lot. But he is Mr hp. Period
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I read it now 3 times and still don't know what hp means... :hmm
LE
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HORSEPOWER!!!! ;D
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Thanks for the Insanity, Nico... :o but the hp drumming style never fitted the calmer songs. Being an amateur drummer myself I know what it is about.
I do respect DC a lot. But he is Mr hp. Period
Where ? When ? Did he hit too much on songs like Sailing to Philadelphia or Brothers in arms ? Rudiger ? The mist covered mountains (Local hero intro in 2005) ? True love will never fade ? Piper to the end ?
No, the difference with Danny is that he knew WHEN to hit hard. But he was versatile too.
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Horsepower ?
Maybe during the 2002 shows, which were clearly amazing I do think.
And I didn't mind too much because Danny made some songs grow in intensity, check the Brothers in arms final, which is sublime IMO, though I can admit this is a matter of taste after all.
Horsepower after the first half of the 2005 saved tour? None at all, he backed off cause he is a smart guy too.
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Thanks for the Insanity, Nico... :o but the hp drumming style never fitted the calmer songs. Being an amateur drummer myself I know what it is about.
I do respect DC a lot. But he is Mr hp. Period
Where ? When ? Did he hit too much on songs like Sailing to Philadelphia or Brothers in arms ? Rudiger ? The mist covered mountains (Local hero intro in 2005) ? True love will never fade ? Piper to the end ?
No, the difference with Danny is that he knew WHEN to hit hard. But he was versatile too.
In terms of "hitting", it is of my opinion that DC played songs like f. ex Sultans more soft and groovy than IT does, he is very straightforward in a "hard" way and to some extent I feel that he lacks some of DCs feel. No offence though, an excellent drummer but I would still prefer DC..
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He improved after 2005.
He was never the piano man, though.
It is also a matter of taste. No need to argue. :think
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PS: that doesn't mean I prefer IT.
I miss CC if not PW... ;)
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Man on a track, I don't discuss tastes at all, we all have our own hopefully and I respect yours.
I argue with the fact that the similar setlists between 2005 and 2010 - with the exception of the tour with Emmy - have nothing to see with such or such band members.
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Oh and for those who would be interested, talking about "horsepowering"
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pick withers, now there's a drummer....
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Man on a track, I don't discuss tastes at all, we all have our own hopefully and I respect yours.
I argue with the fact that the similar setlists between 2005 and 2010 - with the exception of the tour with Emmy - have nothing to see with such or such band members.
Agreed, it's indeed MK who decides about the songs, that's absolutely right. Maybe Guy assisting.
It's only that I've never got over the feeling that he had to adapt the setlist to DC's style.
Again: I'm not questioning his skills, I'm talking about his style. Live, that is. Studio is always different.
And I'll never forget what MK said about drummers in Boothbay (and what a set he played there!)
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check Vicente Amigo's last album, Tierra, featuring Danny.
Thanks for the hint. I have read of it, not checked it out. I certainly will!
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I absolutely prefer DC at drums. It's a matter of: I didn't notice drums at all till DC. So he really did something which has touched me.
I only heard one concert complete so far, the first one, but I definately prefer DC. I don't like cimbals that much. I do like the strong, and also soften, drumming of DC. Time of PW and CC is far behind us. I didn't really listen to their drumming, as said before, the first one making me aware of drums was DC. So he will be the one for me forever I guess. Falling in love with music is really a matter of taste.
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And I'll never forget what MK said about drummers in Boothbay (and what a set he played there!)
That was quite a set indeed
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I absolutely prefer DC at drums. It's a matter of: I didn't notice drums at all till DC. So he really did something which has touched me.
I only heard one concert complete so far, the first one, but I definately prefer DC. I don't like cimbals that much. I do like the strong, and also soften, drumming of DC. Time of PW and CC is far behind us. I didn't really listen to their drumming, as said before, the first one making me aware of drums was DC. So he will be the one for me forever I guess. Falling in love with music is really a matter of taste.
Ingrid, I love you ;D :clap
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I absolutely prefer DC at drums. It's a matter of: I didn't notice drums at all till DC. So he really did something which has touched me.
He was IN PHASE with Mark. Same feeling, same class, same everything.
Same as you, I was just OK with drums prior DC but the very first time I heard him live - coincidently his first gig ever with Mark on the drums - it all changed. He had me, I never looked back since then and I still don't understand why the f**k he is not in the band anymore.
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That's exactly what happened to me Nico. Sometimes someone hits you just in your heart.
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well, I've always been in love with MK's music.
No matter what musicians around him, even if they added a lot of important stuff, no question.
But drummers (and bassists) are best when they aren't noticed (as it was obviously the case before DC...) ;)
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He was IN PHASE with Mark. Same feeling, same class, same everything.
That's well said. I think that's it. He played longer with him than any other drummer. He was with him 1991, on GH 1996, 2000 he played in the studio as well... real band mate. If there is something like that in Mark's world...
LE
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Yep
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well, I've always been in love with MK's music.
No matter what musicians around him, even if they added a lot of important stuff, no question.
But drummers (and bassists) are best when they aren't notices (as it was obviously the case before DC...) ;)
Finally we have found someting to disagree about ;-)
I love Glenn playing bass. Actually I love it more when I notice him playing. Not every song, but every now and then it's nice to say.... wow, did you hear that bass. Same with drums. We will have to have a couple of bottles of wine to discuss this ;-))))
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Yep
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Finally we have found someting to disagree about ;-)
I love Glenn playing bass. Actually I love it more when I notice him playing. Not every song, but every now and then it's nice to say.... wow, did you hear that bass. Same with drums. We will have to have a couple of bottles of wine to discuss this ;-))))
LOL ;D
Well, I do agree about the "every now and then".
But these should be rare moments. I love those moments about Glenn, too!
And, yes, :hmm I had no such moment with IT...
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But drummers (and bassists) are best when they aren't notices (as it was obviously the case before DC...) ;)
Strange statement which I'd tend to disagree with. Did you say plenty of wine Ingrid? ;)
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Believe me, I didn't chase him (and I wouldn't have)!
I do believe you MOAT no worries ;)
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Oh when he starts drumming at the end of Privateering (the song) - the 2011 versions are all great... for example here:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=n7zVST7TeHI
from 5:05 on, quite simple, but with very much effect.. Liked it from the beginning! :)
LE
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNU2VLIEeK4
This one is really brilliant. Amongst lots of other moments SaN has been played, but this video really shows the moments of DC
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There is a IEM recording of that night which is great, I hope you have it. ;)
Yes, thanks for asking :) :) :thumbsup :) :)
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But drummers (and bassists) are best when they aren't notices (as it was obviously the case before DC...) ;)
Strange statement which I'd tend to disagree with. Did you say plenty of wine Ingrid? ;)
Yes some bottles with MOAT to discuss this. Don't worry I also love beer. But I already made an appointment with MOAT to have some nice wines somewhere during this tour. So a good excuse to drink some more ;-)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNU2VLIEeK4
This one is really brilliant. Amongst lots of other moments SaN has been played, but this video really shows the moments of DC
Yep, I remastered it with the soundboard recording of that night. Even more brilliant.
Check the DVD from Boston 2005 - same song - if you have it - Brilliantissime!!!!
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I will check Nico, I have it somewhere. At this moment also watching Paul Simon on dutch TV, Nederland 3. Documentary about Paul Simon, Graceland. Good interviews in between, exactly telling the emotions of how this album went to see daylight. I love it
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Oh when he starts drumming at the end of Privateering (the song) - the 2011 versions are all great... for example here:
from 5:05 on, quite simple, but with very much effect.. Liked it from the beginning! :)
LE
Yup, very much effect. Would fit Working on a Railroad... :lol
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pNU2VLIEeK4
This one is really brilliant. Amongst lots of other moments SaN has been played, but this video really shows the moments of DC
I don't question his skills and it does fit SaN of course.
There's not much dynamics in it or viariety "living" up to the song. It's a solid professional drum part. No less. But brilliant is Mark's guitar playing... :)
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Now I think what this discussion is about. It's the difference between some of us. I just feel the passion, don't look at technical skills or whatever (I can't judge, because I am not able to). I feel love and passion for music, the joy of playing, both DC and MK. I like the drumming of IT, but I don't FEEL it.
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Now I think what this discussion is about. It's the difference between some of us. I just feel the passion, don't look at technical skills or whatever (I can't judge, because I am not able to). I feel love and passion for music, the joy of playing, both DC and MK. I like the drumming of IT, but I don't FEEL it.
That might be true indeed.
Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to do the vin rouge ! ;D
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Now I think what this discussion is about. It's the difference between some of us. I just feel the passion, don't look at technical skills or whatever (I can't judge, because I am not able to). I feel love and passion for music, the joy of playing, both DC and MK. I like the drumming of IT, but I don't FEEL it.
That might be true indeed.
Nevertheless, I'm looking forward to do the vin rouge ! ;D
Yes!
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I absolutely prefer DC at drums. It's a matter of: I didn't notice drums at all till DC. So he really did something which has touched me.
I agree with you, Ingrid. The same thing happened with me. It was at Edinburgh 2005 and ironically, it was Danny's drumming on Sonny Liston which made me aware of how great he was! That's when I realised how important the drummer is to a band. With Ian, I hear the drums, but they are not very subtle at times when they should be - Danny knew about subtlety and he could be Mr Horsepower too! :)
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Back to Tupelo ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Uf2D9Pd24c&feature=youtu.be
Thank you, Tunnel, for this beautiful clip! I loved it, especially the end solo! :thumbsup :wave
I can't stop listening! The guitar is soooooo beautiful! :P
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Back to Tupelo ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1Uf2D9Pd24c&feature=youtu.be
Thank you, Tunnel, for this beautiful clip! I loved it, especially the end solo! :thumbsup :wave
I can't stop listening! The guitar is soooooo beautiful! :P
Yep, fantastic song :thumbsup
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Hello , I did not check all the 12 pages of thi topic but who noticed that in Milan Mark did encounter a problem with his guitar during SOS and did drop some of the usual licks for the solo?
Two shows in a row and no Sonny Liston nor Bonaparte but Postcard back and the beautifull F&S as well. That was good move to my taste.
Will he have the balls to drop TR?
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Hello , I did not check all the 12 pages of thi topic but who noticed that in Milan Mark did encounter a problem with his guitar during SOS and did drop some of the usual licks for the solo?
Two shows in a row and no Sonny Liston nor Bonaparte but Postcard back and the beautifull F&S as well. That was good move to my taste.
Will he have the balls to drop TR?
If TR goes away, I will cry... :(
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News from Milano: an Italian member of AMIT is listening to the soundcheck right now.
;)
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News from Milano: an Italian member of AMIT is listening to the soundcheck right now.
;)
:wave
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I just noticed MK forgot to present Glenn Worf during Paraguay Intro
he was too busy singing some strange stuff while presenting :D
The band deserves more than a Dylan style introduction. :think
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After listening (again) to the Milan Sultans:
What exactly was wrong with his guitar on that night? Do we know? And did it happen during the song (if so, when, what exact second?) He says after the
song "need to fix my guitar"... What tells us that something went wrong? Sorry if these questions sound stupid...
If he really realizes during the song that something on the guitar is broken and still plays on and delivers such a great version, he is really a genius. Now I want to think to what extent the playing was influenced by the defect thing, whatever it was. Can some guitar freak tell me? (Ingo maybe??)
Thanks in acvance!
LE
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After listening (again) to the Milan Sultans:
What exactly was wrong with his guitar on that night? Do we know? And did it happen during the song (if so, when, what exact second?) He says after the
song "need to fix my guitar"... What tells us that something went wrong? Sorry if these questions sound stupid...
If he really realizes during the song that something on the guitar is broken and still plays on and delivers such a great version, he is really a genius. Now I want to think to what extent the playing was influenced by the defect thing, whatever it was. Can some guitar freak tell me? (Ingo maybe??)
Thanks in acvance!
LE
I wote about it in the Turin topic :
Something went wrong, a glitch at 4'00, and all the final solo is only played on the "treeble" chords, and he does not play the usual little thing.
And what is he saying at 8:35 about "yeah pitch in my guitar..."?
Pensaboy disagreed with my remark regarding that he played only the treeble string, and was right. But when witnessing the problem live I spent checking what was wrong during all the final solo especially when the day before SOS final solo sounded right.
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He is saying (almost as an excuse and directly before he starts Gator Blood) at 8:35 "Just fixing my guitar".. and after that "... switching problem there"..
I must admit I have no clue what you mean with "treeble" chords... I am no musician...
Questions, questions...
LE
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He is saying (almost as an excuse and directly before he starts Gator Blood) at 8:35 "Just fixing my guitar".. and after that "... switching problem there"..
I must admit I have no clue what you mean with "treeble" chords... I am no musician...
Questions, questions...
LE
My bad, wrong word from me. Not "chords" but "string" - phonetically "chord" is the french word for "string" and "rope" - and I mixed it.
And a "string" in french is ;D
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And a "string" in french is ;D
I love this forum ;D
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Ok, then, I give it another try then:
What was to be switched on the guitar? And when he says it so closely before he starts Gator Blood, I think that the Gator Blood guitar was not ok then?
So there was no broken guitar on Sultans?
LE
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Yes there was something wrong from 4'00'' and the end solo wasn't sounding good to my hear but I couldn't see what was wrong, no broken string but I suspected that one was suddenly out of tune or something like that and Mark avoided to play on it.
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I agree with Pensaboy : nothing specially wrong here. no broken string, no out of tune, no problem IMHO
It's "just" that the solo is almost completely different from usual
about "fixing the guitar", I think it's more about gator blood : the strap is maybe not correctly fixed ? or the capo isn't corectly fixed ?
remember that for Gator blood he has to take the bottleneck, maybe is he searching it in the dark ? maybe all of this at the same time ? ::)
usually, "switching" on a guitar means switching the pick-ups combination. Glenn Sagger has to prepare the guitar for Mark : right tunning of course, but also the right switch position.
maybe is it wrong here ?
or maybe is he talking about switching between the 2 guitars ? ;D
"wait a minute Glenn, let me take off the red strat before giving me the white one !" :smack ;D :D
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I agree with Pensaboy : nothing specially wrong here. no broken string, no out of tune, no problem IMHO
It's "just" that the solo is almost completely different from usual
exactly
the same for the 4'00 note which is not an error or a problem but a single out of tune note
which MK played intentionally, it's a special musical scale he uses sometimes.
he just drank some good wine in italy that evening, that's it :)
What can I say is at that exact moment at least two of us did notice it.
So the usual "play everything" joke from the past tour will be replaced with "play it voluntary wrong" ;D
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There's nothing wrong with the solo. That "glitch" is done intentionally.
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it's surely not easy to understand for a person who doesn't play when an out of tune note is done
intentionally or not
any at least good player can tell that the 4'00 is done intentionally
Maybe but from the audience it certainly sounded not melodious.
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agree 100% with pensaboy and Mojoiglesias, it's obviously intentional
but I understand what Ds1984 says : the audience could have found this a little bit strange