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Title: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Brunno Nunes- (Universo Dire Straits) on May 07, 2017, 09:30:08 PM
Dire Straits Legacy releasing their first single here in Brazil, in their tour that will pass through 5 cities.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=elTp5-iAIF4

I liked it a lot, I felt a very nice atmosphere!

https://universodirestraits.blogspot.com.br/
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: quizzaciously on May 07, 2017, 10:20:06 PM
Wrong section? ;D ;D ;D
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Brunno Nunes- (Universo Dire Straits) on May 08, 2017, 12:06:45 AM
Excuse me!  :smack
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on May 08, 2017, 08:40:01 AM
This song comes from long ago... when Alan Clark and Chris White were together with Terence Reis under the name "The Straits"

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=B6zH2swFaoo

Then they separated, Chris White continued with the band under the name "Dire Straits Experience" and Alan joined the DS italian tribute by Phil Palmer "Dire straits Legacy"
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Crusty on May 08, 2017, 09:16:29 AM
Sound like Bruce Springsten. With a more italiano accent  ;D
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on May 08, 2017, 09:30:36 AM
As far as I know, it´s an Alan Clark song
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: superval99 on May 08, 2017, 10:02:59 AM
As far as I know, it´s an Alan Clark song

I wonder whatever happened to the album he was writing a few years ago.    :think
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on May 08, 2017, 10:05:28 AM
As far as I know, it´s an Alan Clark song

I wonder whatever happened to the album he was writing a few years ago.    :think

Jesus Street was one of the songs he wrote for it... Alan posted some instagram pictures of him, Steve Ferrone and Phil Palmer in a recording studio, maybe they are still working on it.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: superval99 on May 08, 2017, 10:16:57 AM
As far as I know, it´s an Alan Clark song

I wonder whatever happened to the album he was writing a few years ago.    :think

Jesus Street was one of the songs he wrote for it... Alan posted some instagram pictures of him, Steve Ferrone and Phil Palmer in a recording studio, maybe they are still working on it.

It's a very long time in the making - even longer than the latest MK project and that seems like an eternity!  ;)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Love Expresso on May 08, 2017, 12:16:31 PM
Gave it one (half) listen. Sounds like Chris Rea trying to sound like Dire Straits. Hurts to see Danny with them.

LE
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on May 08, 2017, 12:23:51 PM
Gave it one (half) listen. Sounds like Chris Rea trying to sound like Dire Straits. Hurts to see Danny with them.

LE

I like it... Actually the fact that Phil Palmer does the solo makes it better as he doesn´t try to sound like MK, but Caviglia does, with the rythmic guitar... If they were a band playing just his songs, I would like that the band is formed by whoever, including Danny, but, years after that charity concerts of The Straits, and the short tout they did after, continue with this is a little nonsense to me, but as long as I enjoyed it, I recognize that many other people would do if they keep playing... you only have to be aware that you are seeing a "tribute to" band with ex hired members.

LE, funny you mention Chris Rea, I always thought that Chris always try to sound a little bit like DS, but with his own touch, leaving it just a far away influence. I like Chris Rea.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Eddie Fox on May 08, 2017, 04:12:16 PM
Does anyone know what Terence is up to these days? He was way better than Marco imho.

Regarding Alan's band, the way this tour is being promoted here in Brazil is outrageous. They say it's Dire Straits with a new lineup. People are buying tickets to see Dire Straits and posting videos and pictures at Dire Straits gigs saying the band is still great despite Mark's absence... it's insane.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Pottel on May 08, 2017, 05:40:43 PM
Can not follow these various incarnations of legacy groups. But then again, why should I.



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Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Robson on May 08, 2017, 05:50:28 PM
In my opinion, the legend is destroyed dIRE sTRAITS
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: quizzaciously on May 08, 2017, 06:09:21 PM
In my opinion, the legend is destroyed dIRE sTRAITS

Agree. It's a shame that actual members (whatever their part in a band was) did it, I mean there are many and lots of great tribute bands, like Fab Four, but if you was in a band, I think it's better to do something else than to dance on your own band's bones, I much more like Hal Lindes who never associated his work with DS after he left the band and actually David Knopfler only uses DS to promote his own music like Mark's management did for a long time.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Eddie Fox on May 08, 2017, 06:21:09 PM
I don't mind Alan leading a tribute band but when this band is promoted as the real deal it makes me want to throw up. I know you won't understand it since it's in portuguese but both host and interviewer never mention Mark and refer to them as Dire Straits, even asking Marco what it was like to join the band after playing in tribute bands. It's disgusting!

https://youtu.be/5VtBJvsf-2U
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: quizzaciously on May 08, 2017, 07:23:41 PM
I don't mind Alan leading a tribute band but when this band is promoted as the real deal it makes me want to throw up. I know you won't understand it since it's in portuguese but both host and interviewer never mention Mark and refer to them as Dire Straits, even asking Marco what it was like to join the band after playing in tribute bands. It's disgusting!

https://youtu.be/5VtBJvsf-2U

It happens in my country, too... I own a popular local MK fan page in Russia and from time to time people write to me stuff like "why you didn't mention this Dire Straits show at all?" when they would play there. Well, because it's not actually Dire Straits, it's a tribute band. I know people who can't distinguish the real deal and tribute are geniuses on their own right, but it can't say nothing good about these tribute bands either.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on May 08, 2017, 08:09:00 PM
Does anyone know what Terence is up to these days? He was way better than Marco imho.

Regarding Alan's band, the way this tour is being promoted here in Brazil is outrageous. They say it's Dire Straits with a new lineup. People are buying tickets to see Dire Straits and posting videos and pictures at Dire Straits gigs saying the band is still great despite Mark's absence... it's insane.

Terence is still singing in the "dire straits experience", one of the two bands that emerged from " the straits" split.

Dire Straits Legacy is not Alan's band but Marco Caviglia and Phil Palmer's band. Alan was just asked to join them, as Mel Collins and Danny Cummings
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Robson on May 08, 2017, 08:28:51 PM
And all because Mark Knopfler never fought for the name of the team

ps. sorry for my english
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Eddie Fox on May 08, 2017, 09:36:33 PM
Does anyone know what Terence is up to these days? He was way better than Marco imho.

Regarding Alan's band, the way this tour is being promoted here in Brazil is outrageous. They say it's Dire Straits with a new lineup. People are buying tickets to see Dire Straits and posting videos and pictures at Dire Straits gigs saying the band is still great despite Mark's absence... it's insane.

Terence is still singing in the "dire straits experience", one of the two bands that emerged from " the straits" split.

Dire Straits Legacy is not Alan's band but Marco Caviglia and Phil Palmer's band. Alan was just asked to join them, as Mel Collins and Danny Cummings

I didn't mean he owns the band, but he's certainly the one who lends some credibility and genuineness to it.

Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: junkiedoll on May 09, 2017, 04:57:34 PM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ocXMOEZegHA
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Brunno Nunes- (Universo Dire Straits) on May 09, 2017, 05:24:03 PM
They said that this song is being released by the band "Legacy", and that they will start solo works with that name while they are touring playing DS.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Brunno Nunes- (Universo Dire Straits) on May 09, 2017, 05:35:03 PM
If you want to set up a tribute band called "Dire Straits Sausage or Dire Straits Silvery" you can, that's what they did, but they can not record anything with the name, so much so that their new single was released and the band name is Legacy only .
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dmg on May 09, 2017, 05:37:40 PM
Just when the press conference was going well you-know-who comes out with this gem regarding the new album.

AC:  "...it might even sound better than Dire Straits."

Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: superval99 on May 09, 2017, 06:08:23 PM
Just when the press conference was going well you-know-who comes out with this gem regarding the new album.

AC:  "...it might even sound better than Dire Straits."

If "Jesus Street" is anything to go by, I wouldn't hold my breath!    ::)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Crusty on May 10, 2017, 06:14:32 AM
Just when the press conference was going well you-know-who comes out with this gem regarding the new album.

AC:  "...it might even sound better than Dire Straits."

Haha! Alan Clark, what a shmuck.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Eddie Fox on May 10, 2017, 04:06:15 PM
Just when the press conference was going well you-know-who comes out with this gem regarding the new album.

AC:  "...it might even sound better than Dire Straits."

Maybe better than Les Boys lol
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Silvertown on May 10, 2017, 05:39:44 PM
Just when the press conference was going well you-know-who comes out with this gem regarding the new album.

AC:  "...it might even sound better than Dire Straits."

AC, I can tell you this free of charge: It won´t.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: skydiver on May 11, 2017, 08:44:27 AM
Gave it one (half) listen. Sounds like Chris Rea trying to sound like Dire Straits. Hurts to see Danny with them.

LE

Gave it half a listen, too. You are offending Chris Rea.
And yes, the only really sad thing about the Legacy is to see Danny getting that low...
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on May 11, 2017, 09:24:14 AM
Gave it one (half) listen. Sounds like Chris Rea trying to sound like Dire Straits. Hurts to see Danny with them.

LE

Gave it half a listen, too. You are offending Chris Rea.
And yes, the only really sad thing about the Legacy is to see Danny getting that low...

He still have to pay his bills, and he losed two bosses recently, Mark Knopfler that decided to substitute him, and George Michael that sadly passed away...
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dmg on May 11, 2017, 12:52:02 PM
Gave it one (half) listen. Sounds like Chris Rea trying to sound like Dire Straits. Hurts to see Danny with them.

LE

Gave it half a listen, too. You are offending Chris Rea.
And yes, the only really sad thing about the Legacy is to see Danny getting that low...

He still have to pay his bills, and he losed two bosses recently, Mark Knopfler that decided to substitute him, and George Michael that sadly passed away...

Was he dropped for the recent Blue Club gigs too?  Sure he was.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on May 11, 2017, 01:00:59 PM
Gave it one (half) listen. Sounds like Chris Rea trying to sound like Dire Straits. Hurts to see Danny with them.

LE

Gave it half a listen, too. You are offending Chris Rea.
And yes, the only really sad thing about the Legacy is to see Danny getting that low...

He still have to pay his bills, and he losed two bosses recently, Mark Knopfler that decided to substitute him, and George Michael that sadly passed away...

Was he dropped for the recent Blue Club gigs too?  Sure he was.

I'm not sure... Guy said Danny had "other things" on that dates, I think that Ingrid (that attended the shows) said he was ill and was replaced... whatever, I´m sure that these Bluesclub gigs are not very well paid, so if anyone needs a percussionist and Danny gets the offer, he will leave the gig for sure.

Danny is still regarded as one of the best percussionist to hire, but gets older, and new and younger musicians are gaining their reputation as well.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dmg on May 11, 2017, 01:05:06 PM
Gave it one (half) listen. Sounds like Chris Rea trying to sound like Dire Straits. Hurts to see Danny with them.

LE

Gave it half a listen, too. You are offending Chris Rea.
And yes, the only really sad thing about the Legacy is to see Danny getting that low...

He still have to pay his bills, and he losed two bosses recently, Mark Knopfler that decided to substitute him, and George Michael that sadly passed away...

Was he dropped for the recent Blue Club gigs too?  Sure he was.

I'm not sure... Guy said Danny had "other things" on that dates, I think that Ingrid (that attended the shows) said he was ill and was replaced... whatever, I´m sure that these Bluesclub gigs are not very well paid, so if anyone needs a percussionist and Danny gets the offer, he will leave the gig for sure.

Danny is still regarded as one of the best percussionist to hire, but gets older, and new and younger musicians are gaining their reputation as well.

Sounds a bit like the Chad Cromwell "released on family issues" excuse to me.     ;)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on May 11, 2017, 01:49:50 PM
Gave it one (half) listen. Sounds like Chris Rea trying to sound like Dire Straits. Hurts to see Danny with them.

LE

Gave it half a listen, too. You are offending Chris Rea.
And yes, the only really sad thing about the Legacy is to see Danny getting that low...

He still have to pay his bills, and he losed two bosses recently, Mark Knopfler that decided to substitute him, and George Michael that sadly passed away...

Was he dropped for the recent Blue Club gigs too?  Sure he was.

I'm not sure... Guy said Danny had "other things" on that dates, I think that Ingrid (that attended the shows) said he was ill and was replaced... whatever, I´m sure that these Bluesclub gigs are not very well paid, so if anyone needs a percussionist and Danny gets the offer, he will leave the gig for sure.

Danny is still regarded as one of the best percussionist to hire, but gets older, and new and younger musicians are gaining their reputation as well.

Sounds a bit like the Chad Cromwell "released on family issues" excuse to me.     ;)

Yeah...

I guess that proffesional musician´s life is complicated, more than we think. It´s usual that we think that, let´s say Phil Palmer, has to be millionaire because he played for Dire Straits and Eric Clapton, and the truth is that he was just a paid worker, getting well paid but not to be millionaire, so when the job is done, they have to keep working to pay his bills, like anyone else.

I recall an Ian Thomas interview where he said that "overbooking" is very usual in musicians world, as you can´t know if some of that bookings would be cancelled, and you should try to accomodate to those overbookings in order to work.

Guy Fletcher himself has said that he still has a mortgage, when someone suggested in his forum that he might be millionaire has he played with DS and MK... I doubt very much that MK has a mortgage  ;D
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: ds1984 on May 11, 2017, 07:15:04 PM
Guy Fletcher himself has said that he still has a mortgage, when someone suggested in his forum that he might be millionaire has he played with DS and MK... I doubt very much that MK has a mortgage  ;D

Mark, as a business man he probably has some for his art gallery or his studio.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dmg on May 11, 2017, 07:56:46 PM

Guy Fletcher himself has said that he still has a mortgage, when someone suggested in his forum that he might be millionaire has he played with DS and MK... I doubt very much that MK has a mortgage  ;D


Mark could afford to pay his mortgage off for him and not even notice.  Also, all these artists could well pay their musicians more money.  It's true that the richer you become, the meaner you become.  I wonder how the money was split when DS was a 4-piece...
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Post by: Justme on May 11, 2017, 09:11:58 PM
Quote

Guy Fletcher himself has said that he still has a mortgage, when someone suggested in his forum that he might be millionaire has he played with DS and MK... I doubt very much that MK has a mortgage  ;D

..for tax reasons?!  ;)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on May 12, 2017, 10:39:32 AM

Guy Fletcher himself has said that he still has a mortgage, when someone suggested in his forum that he might be millionaire has he played with DS and MK... I doubt very much that MK has a mortgage  ;D


Mark could afford to pay his mortgage off for him and not even notice.  Also, all these artists could well pay their musicians more money.  It's true that the richer you become, the meaner you become.  I wonder how the money was split when DS was a 4-piece...

The fact is that MK gets even more by the copyright of the songs, and DS, the enterprise was really just MK, JI and Ed Bicknell as the manager and director of the enterprise "Dire Straits Overseas", and DS the band, the four of them, so MK gets money for the three parts, JI for two, and AC y GF for one only.

Legally, it´s a mess, but the one that gets almost everything is MK, of course, and John in the second place. AC and GF got far more than Chris White for example, but less than John.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Pottel on May 12, 2017, 02:48:26 PM
such a sad thing to watch this press conference...
and AC, what an narcisistic asswipe.
also, when AC said the better then dire straits thing, Danny was quick to say "watch out" in a protective tone.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Love Expresso on May 12, 2017, 03:18:39 PM
Clark really exactly looks like I expect him to look referring to the way his character shows when it comes to his Dire Straits past.... he sounds like he WAS Dire Straits. Best answer Mark could give really was writing and recording a classy song like TOTT....

LE
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Eddie Fox on May 13, 2017, 10:21:22 AM
Of course this song is no MK or DS material but it's still better than 95% of the rubbish that's thrown at us these days. I reckon that if they had a pro singer it could be a hit but with Marco singing it's going nowhere.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dmg on May 13, 2017, 10:29:54 AM
Of course this song is no MK or DS material but it's still better than 95% of the rubbish that's thrown at us these days. I reckon that if they had a pro singer it could be a hit but with Marco singing it's going nowhere.

True what you say but to be fair I think Marco has been working hard on his vocal.  I have watched a few videos of recent concerts and he has almost lost the thick accent that puts people off (including myself) and he mumbles a bit less, just as the real Mark mumbles a bit more! 
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: quizzaciously on May 13, 2017, 08:59:09 PM
Of course this song is no MK or DS material but it's still better than 95% of the rubbish that's thrown at us these days. I reckon that if they had a pro singer it could be a hit but with Marco singing it's going nowhere.

True what you say but to be fair I think Marco has been working hard on his vocal.  I have watched a few videos of recent concerts and he has almost lost the thick accent that puts people off (including myself) and he mumbles a bit less, just as the real Mark mumbles a bit more!

It always baffled me why so many tribute bands come from countries not the original band was from, but I think I just found one:

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NVyhoijrikk
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on May 13, 2017, 09:04:13 PM
Tribute bands come from where there are fans wishing to pay tribute to his idols...

There are some in the UK as well, I saw two with twitter accounts that tour the UK but cannot remember their names.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: riton on May 22, 2017, 10:52:11 PM
such a sad thing to watch this press conference...
and AC, what an narcisistic asswipe.
also, when AC said the better then dire straits thing, Danny was quick to say "watch out" in a protective tone.

Alan is fantastic on his website (biog), without him DS, MK and EC would not be what are they !!.

But why no head hunter (his sentence) has called upon his services during the last 20 years.

One thing is sure he is much better comic than composer
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on May 23, 2017, 08:37:01 AM
Alan was indeed fantastic when in DS and his contrubution helped the band to go a very big step ahead.

Alan was also fantastic with Clapton, he added a whole lot of great things to Eric´s songs.

Looks like he had some kind of problems that took him away for the "stars circuit", as he was also the musical director and also of musicians casting for Tina Turner, and he had never recovered in full, as long as the members of The Straits didn´t want to be with him anymore and formed their own "DS Experience". Looks like that "problems" were the same that made MK be away from him.
 
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: vancip on November 24, 2017, 07:51:07 PM
now they got a new name "Legacy" and a brand new record

http://www.ilsussidiario.net/News/Musica-e-concerti/2017/11/24/LEGACY-3-Chord-Trick-quello-che-rimane-dei-Dire-Straits/794047/

Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on November 27, 2017, 03:55:44 PM
I just heard three songs from their record and I like it. Top musicians, except the Italians (the lead singer is terrible) but the songs are good.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: PensaGhost on November 27, 2017, 04:37:05 PM
This song is pretty good imo, Deserves a much better singer, Caviglia is really terrible, he has nothing to do with these guys, both as a singer and a guitarist.

Other songs are sung by Alan Clark which is also terrible as a singer, bah

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jS3g25e8dFU

Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: olazabalrok on November 27, 2017, 05:18:34 PM
Yeah, listened through the whole thing (it's on Spotify). It wasn't too shabby, I was pleasantly surprised. But yeah, they should have a better singer though!
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: superval99 on November 27, 2017, 05:23:09 PM
Sounds like they're singing "Looking for a Miracle" !    Not a bad song, but agree the singer is terrible.    I have just listened to all 12 songs and most are pretty average imo.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: quizzaciously on November 27, 2017, 06:59:42 PM
So Danny Cummings now plays both with Mark and with Legacy? Pretty impressive :lol

Congrats to Alan for coming up with his own music! I agree on singer, though, could've found other one for other project.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: quizzaciously on November 27, 2017, 07:16:56 PM
"Just finished making and producing, with Phil Palmer, the LEGACY album. It's called 3 Chord Trick, it comes out Nov 24, and it was 90% fun, 10% hard work." (Alan Clark)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 27, 2017, 10:13:11 PM
Good on Alan for stepping up to the plate with original tunes.

He always implied that he played a big part in composing all those classic DS songs so now we will be able to see how successful these are.

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Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 27, 2017, 10:15:59 PM
Trevor Horn on here? Major development!

And sadly Steve Ferrone needs a new gig these days. :(

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Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: quizzaciously on November 28, 2017, 07:47:14 AM
By the way...
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: superval99 on November 28, 2017, 10:14:46 AM
I like the song 3 Chord Trick, written by Phil Palmer and also Epiphany, which is reminiscent of Silvertown Blues!   I think the songs sound better with more listenings.   :)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on November 28, 2017, 01:46:37 PM
I like the song 3 Chord Trick, written by Phil Palmer and also Epiphany, which is reminiscent of Silvertown Blues!   I think the songs sound better with more listenings.   :)

like with MK solo records

 :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: superval99 on November 28, 2017, 07:51:49 PM
I like the song 3 Chord Trick, written by Phil Palmer and also Epiphany, which is reminiscent of Silvertown Blues!   I think the songs sound better with more listenings.   :)

like with MK solo records

 :lol :lol :lol :lol

Yes, of course.   Often with MK's solo songs it is necessary for me to listen many times, but those are the songs which become long time favourites, whereas the more immediate songs are tired of more quickly.   :)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 29, 2017, 07:14:54 PM
I listened to Jesus Street and 3 Chord Trick and was pleasantly surprised. Good tunes and the singing was ok, unlike, say, David Knopfler that I just can't listen to as it sounds like a bad MK impression.

BUT!

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Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 29, 2017, 07:16:03 PM
3 Chord Trick is slating MK. Poor show Phil.

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Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: superval99 on November 29, 2017, 07:45:40 PM
3 Chord Trick is slating MK. Poor show Phil.

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I couldn't hear the words when I first listened, but on listening again I think you could be correct, dusty.    :think    :(
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Love Expresso on November 29, 2017, 08:45:26 PM
Quote from: dustyvalentino ilink=topic=5844.msg117845#msg117845 date=1511979363
3 Chord Trick is slating MK. Poor show Phil.

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How poor is that! Copying his guitar style but attacking him with these poor lyrics? Is the only reason for the existence of this Band to do stuff like this? That is even sadder than I thought ...

LE
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: PensaGhost on November 29, 2017, 09:37:20 PM
What do the bad lyrics say ? Could you elaborate please
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: quizzaciously on November 29, 2017, 09:54:40 PM
3 Chord Trick is slating MK. Poor show Phil.

Oh yeah, seems like you're right and after a couple of listenings I can say it's slating indeed... Strange. I can't even believe it, it can't be.

I’d like to disagree with you that crime don’t pay
but you make a lot of enemies along the way
the alchemy you need find the perfect lick
the sleight of hand until you find the three chord trick

He made a lot of money and he made a lot of foes
I guess he liked the smell of it just following his nose
and once you find the formula you can’t go wrong
if you’ve played the blues, you knew it all along
play the three chord trick and you’ve got yourself a song

He can juggle with the best of them and that’s a fact
he can conjure an illusion from a loaded pack
he’ll try to take the credit for it, that won’t stick
it’s just another version of the three chord trick

He’s holding all the cards and you can take your choice
don’t look him in the eyes, don’t listen to the voice
if you focus on the hands you can’t go wrong
if you paid your dues you knew it all along
play the three chord trick and you’ve got yourself a song

They call it double dealing and the art is in the hand
many years of practice and your wish is my command
if you believe in magic let the mystery unfold
and it seems that sand turns into gold
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Banjo99uk on November 30, 2017, 12:04:15 AM
It's very 80's big hair sounding to me. If they are having a go at MK it seems a strange way to get DS fans on board.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on November 30, 2017, 07:59:12 AM
Maybe an answer to "terminal of tribute to"?
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Love Expresso on November 30, 2017, 08:15:52 AM
Phil Palmer sounded and behaved always like  a dick...

Big mistake from MK to give him the job back in 1991...

The dogs bark, but the caravan passes...

LE
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: quizzaciously on November 30, 2017, 08:16:50 AM
Maybe an answer to "terminal of tribute to"?

Seems like it... Which hurts my brain on so many levels. I really, really don't think Mark could ever "make a lot of enemies along the way". Enemies for what?! I think people often mess up their own stupidness with somebody just being plain successful. It's like Duke Ellington said about Louis Armstrong, "He was born poor, died rich and never hurt anyone along the way.". It astound me that some people can't calm down even though the years, 10 years, 20 years.

Want to resurrect Dire Straits? Want to play their songs? Want to play better than DS? Jealous of "his" success and wonder why he didn't call you to record or tour with "him" again? Well, it's your problem! Ranting about setlist is normal, but I just can't get all these people. Can't make enough money through music like MK? So get a normal job then! Like people do, you know. Nobody's standing here with a pistol forcing you to make music. But it surely looks like it.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on November 30, 2017, 08:20:48 AM
Mk got some negative to tour with Dire Straits in 1991, and he was obsessed with hiring the most professionals musicians he could paid, yes, it was MK fault.

Actually as far as I know the only reason Phil said yes to MK was because it was believed that Clapton would retire for some time after the death of his son Connor, but in the end Clapton didn't retire and Palmer loses his spot with Clapton and saw himself trapped with a MK that apparently in that years was in a very bad mood permanently... So I can't blame Palmer for having that opinion about MK.

However, I saw Palmer at the RAH attending MK solo shows also...
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on November 30, 2017, 08:24:55 AM
Maybe an answer to "terminal of tribute to"?

Seems like it... Which hurts my brain on so many levels. I really, really don't think Mark could ever "make a lot of enemies along the way". Enemies for what?! I think people often mess up their own stupidness with somebody just being plain successful.


Well, there are some ex DS with bad memories of working with MK... David, Pick, Tommy Mandel, Jack Sonni (who used to be his best friend), Many Katche...

There must be something...
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: quizzaciously on November 30, 2017, 08:36:24 AM
Well, there are some ex DS with bad memories of working with MK... David, Pick, Tommy Mandel, Jack Sonni (who used to be his best friend), Many Katche...

There must be something...

It reminds me of this immortal story of a guy who showed MK his cover of Sultans Of Swing and was scolded in French by the man himself. I mean, all these stories only shows one side and often this side is strange as hell... Why Mark removed John Suhr from his life is really interesting, but maybe there also was a solid reason? Who knows? :hmm

From my own experience, I tend to be an introvert, basically I have no friends. And I often get people hating me for no reason, but I just don't give them as much as they would like me to give, and who's to blame here? It's your fault if you want too much, but giving too little isn't fault at all. Great expectations...
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Love Expresso on November 30, 2017, 08:36:48 AM
Not sure about Pick? Leaving because of musical differences is a little bit different?

I agree however that MK surely never looked very friendly and nice but always strange, egomanic and arrogant. It must be hard to really have a good relationship with him. He lacks many emotions not only in his lyrics but it seems also in his working life. Show me one song that touches and breaks your heart and is not ironic, full of sarcasm or wrapped into a lot of artistic layers...  I guess that's the price for being brilliant and a genious!

LE
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 30, 2017, 08:37:20 AM
Alan is bitter because he feels he "wrote"parts of some of those DS songs, most notably Walk of Life (3 chords in it!).

Phil Palmer, even while still on tour with MK was slagging him (see Vox magazine feature, 1992).

Surprised the song doesn't mention sausages...

Still, it's got us talking about them which was probably the point.

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Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Silvertown on November 30, 2017, 08:38:39 AM
Maybe an answer to "terminal of tribute to"?

Seems like it... Which hurts my brain on so many levels. I really, really don't think Mark could ever "make a lot of enemies along the way". Enemies for what?! I think people often mess up their own stupidness with somebody just being plain successful.


Well, there are some ex DS with bad memories of working with MK... David, Pick, Tommy Mandel, Jack Sonni (who used to be his best friend), Many Katche...

There must be something...

Might be. However there is an arrogant perspective in the song text that easy 3 chord songs, which sound good only because of the best musicians in the band...?
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on November 30, 2017, 08:46:34 AM
I recall reading Pick saying about leaving DS that he couldn't stand anymore working with someone incapable of listen to others opinions band accept that sometimes could be wrong. I'm not sure where I read it, but I read it for sure.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: quizzaciously on November 30, 2017, 08:56:33 AM
Alan is bitter because he feels he "wrote"parts of some of those DS songs, most notably Walk of Life (3 chords in it!).

Phil Palmer, even while still on tour with MK was slagging him (see Vox magazine feature, 1992). Surprised the song doesn't mention sausages...

Still, it's got us talking about them which was probably the point.

Here's a relevant topic on AMIT (Looking for article on DS in Vox Magazine): https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=669.15topic=669.0

Yeah, we talk about it. You know some celebrities have a difficult temperament while being bad as artists... I think in MK's case he surely could be forgiven after all he gave. And, in the end, the love you take Is equal to the love you make and I see 99% of love towards Mark and 1% of Phil Palmers and Alan Clarks. The latter got to play with Bob Dylan, Eric Clapton, you name it... Because of who? Man, I just hate the fact he still can't calm down about "writing" the ending of Romeo And Juliet. If you're such a great composer, show us what's you're up for... Oh, wait...
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: superval99 on November 30, 2017, 09:03:23 AM
I wonder how Danny feels about this, I mean he's playing in MK's band too at the moment!    :hmm
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: JF on November 30, 2017, 09:03:55 AM
Alan is bitter because he feels he "wrote"parts of some of those DS songs, most notably Walk of Life (3 chords in it!).

I would say that his most important contribution is in Telegraph road, globaly the whol LOG album, live arrangement for Romeo & Juliet, and live re-arangements for "old" songs like once upon a time, down to the waterline, angel of mercy, in the gallery...but not in walk of life !
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: JF on November 30, 2017, 09:06:21 AM
I recall reading Pick saying about leaving DS that he couldn't stand anymore working with someone incapable of listen to others opinions band accept that sometimes could be wrong. I'm not sure where I read it, but I read it for sure.

The oldfield book says that Pick leaved for two reasons : he couldn't stand anymore being away from his family while touring, and he felt that keyboards took too much importance in DS music
but of course these are "official" reasons, there could be others of course...
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Love Expresso on November 30, 2017, 09:08:00 AM
Exactly JF, this is what I also remember.

LE
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on November 30, 2017, 10:35:33 AM
I recall reading that statement from Pick in Rockaway fanzine, but it came from an interview he gave after his DS departure that I also read, but can't recall which one... I also remember he talked about pursuing playing more jazz, more music where he feels what he does matters to the song.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on November 30, 2017, 10:39:53 AM
Alan is bitter because he feels he "wrote"parts of some of those DS songs, most notably Walk of Life (3 chords in it!).

I would say that his most important contribution is in Telegraph road, globaly the whol LOG album, live arrangement for Romeo & Juliet, and live re-arangements for "old" songs like once upon a time, down to the waterline, angel of mercy, in the gallery...but not in walk of life !

Yes, actually as a musical director, most of the long versions of the DS songs were co-composed and arranged by Alan, but never credited. As Guy uses to say, you are paying not only to play but also to add your parts to the song, and it must be credited to the author of the song anyway, as it written by him (MK) even you added parts yourself that were not there at the beguining.

I´m sure the 96ers do it everytime they play with MK, but the difference is that they know they are proffesional paid to do that. Alan, as most of the people in DS, felt they were a band, part of the band, but they weren't. In the end they got to produce and being credited in the OES album (the famous "produced by DS, DS are: Mark, John, Alan, Guy).
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: PensaGhost on November 30, 2017, 01:25:34 PM
I wonder how Danny feels about this, I mean he's playing in MK's band too at the moment!    :hmm

yes, this is frankly unbelievable
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: PensaGhost on November 30, 2017, 01:51:33 PM
Even if the lyrics was written by someone in particular, they all played the song,
it's like they agreed and signed the lyrics, they are all involved
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on November 30, 2017, 02:21:58 PM
I wonder how Danny feels about this, I mean he's playing in MK's band too at the moment!    :hmm

yes, this is frankly unbelievable

why?

He's a proffesional musician doing his job, getting paid for it.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on November 30, 2017, 02:23:19 PM
Even if the lyrics was written by someone in particular, they all played the song,
it's like they agreed and signed the lyrics, they are all involved

No, it's like they got payed for a job, playing in a number of songs.

It's like saying that MK agrees with the gun sales in the US as they are right now because he played and produced in Willy de Ville's "Due To Gun Control" song in his record Miracle.

Nonsense
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: PensaGhost on November 30, 2017, 02:36:55 PM
Even if the lyrics was written by someone in particular, they all played the song,
it's like they agreed and signed the lyrics, they are all involved

No, it's like they got payed for a job, playing in a number of songs.

It's like saying that MK agrees with the gun sales in the US as they are right now because he played and produced in Willy de Ville's "Due To Gun Control" song in his record Miracle.

Nonsense

No, this is art and a personal attack to a genius, not a factory job
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on November 30, 2017, 02:40:32 PM
Whatever you want, ghost.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dustyvalentino on November 30, 2017, 03:25:10 PM
Danny's name plastered all over the cover though so a bit different to being a normal "hired gun".
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on November 30, 2017, 03:40:11 PM
Danny's name plastered all over the cover though so a bit different to being a normal "hired gun".


I'd say that are all hired guns by Caviglia, lol.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dmg on November 30, 2017, 04:10:26 PM
Maybe an answer to "terminal of tribute to"?

What I was thinking and Mark can hardly complain.  Both pretty petty IMO.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: PensaGhost on November 30, 2017, 04:54:25 PM
Whatever you want, ghost.

hehe I am simply stating my opinion  :D
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: quizzaciously on November 30, 2017, 07:57:22 PM
For this situation to become even more ridiculous fans should collaborate and come up with a song ranting MK and his setlist choice :wave ;D
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on December 01, 2017, 10:03:04 AM
And... what if it's us, the fans, interpretating that both Terminal and 3Chord talks about Palmer, Clark and MK,but they are not?
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: quizzaciously on December 01, 2017, 12:19:19 PM
And... what if it's us, the fans, interpretating that both Terminal and 3Chord talks about Palmer, Clark and MK,but they are not?

Too many clues I'm afraid... They could've talk about random people, but who in Mark's circle can lead something that has to do with tribute, also happens to be old and feel he never had his share and a chip on both of his shoulders? Same with Palmer... Just the line about "lots of money" makes it clear to me.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on December 01, 2017, 12:37:58 PM
And... what if it's us, the fans, interpretating that both Terminal and 3Chord talks about Palmer, Clark and MK,but they are not?

Too many clues I'm afraid... They could've talk about random people, but who in Mark's circle can lead something that has to do with tribute, also happens to be old and feel he never had his share and a chip on both of his shoulders? Same with Palmer... Just the line about "lots of money" makes it clear to me.

Yes, there are clues that leads to Rome but...

we are fans, what if "we are seeing things" or "reading between the lines" beyond our wildest dreams?  :lol
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: quizzaciously on December 01, 2017, 02:34:47 PM
I just saw the performance of "Why Worry" from An evening with Mark Knopfler and you can see Danny singing the song just for himself! This is amazing. Danny Cummings is in unique situation right now. He loves Mark's music, obviously, and he can play it, but he needs cash so he plays with other guys as well. Somebody tried to get in touch with him to know what he thinks abut it all?
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on December 01, 2017, 02:45:57 PM
I just saw the performance of "Why Worry" from An evening with Mark Knopfler and you can see Danny singing the song just for himself! This is amazing. Danny Cummings is in unique situation right now. He loves Mark's music, obviously, and he can play it, but he needs cash so he plays with other guys as well. Somebody tried to get in touch with him to know what he thinks abut it all?

he would say that it is "money for nothing" just in case he goes "behind with the rent"

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dustyvalentino on December 01, 2017, 04:14:17 PM
I doubt the guys in "Legacy" will come out and admit that it is about MK. So it is up to each individual to decide what they believe.

There is NO doubt in my mind but people can believe what they want to believe...

Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on December 01, 2017, 04:45:59 PM
I doubt the guys in "Legacy" will come out and admit that it is about MK. So it is up to each individual to decide what they believe.

There is NO doubt in my mind but people can believe what they want to believe...

Same that happened when we discussed Terminal of tribute to  ;D

Funnily, that train left the terminal and arrived to a station called 3chord trick  :lol
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: PensaGhost on December 01, 2017, 06:04:50 PM
I doubt the guys in "Legacy" will come out and admit that it is about MK. So it is up to each individual to decide what they believe.

There is NO doubt in my mind but people can believe what they want to believe...

I agree, no doubt for me too
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: border_reiver on December 06, 2017, 12:02:29 AM
DS Legacy are pathetic. There, I said it.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Eddie Fox on December 08, 2017, 02:46:11 PM
I had a listen the other day and the songs are good. I must admit, I was pleasantly surprised. The singer is atrocious though, I really don't understand why he's still there.

Sad thing is no matter how many albums these guys produce and release they will continue to tour pretending to be DS. The way their brazilian tour was promoted was disgusting. They would show up at cheap TV shows claiming they are Dire Straits with a new lineup. All the promo material was also misleading and opportunist.

If they dropped the DS catalogue and started to make a living out of their own songs they would gain my respect, even with that nobody singing. For now they are just shadows passing through  8)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dustyvalentino on December 08, 2017, 02:49:51 PM
The singer is atrocious though, I really don't understand why he's still there.

Isn't it a "pay to play" thing?
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Eddie Fox on December 08, 2017, 03:01:52 PM
The singer is atrocious though, I really don't understand why he's still there.

Isn't it a "pay to play" thing?

If that's the case it must be costing him a LOT of money lol

Honestly, if they had a decent and charismatic singer the band could do really well. I mean, look at all the tasteless s*** we hear on the radio these days... they are certainly better than that!
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: quizzaciously on December 08, 2017, 04:22:37 PM
Honestly, if they had a decent and charismatic singer the band could do really well. I mean, look at all the tasteless s*** we hear on the radio these days... they are certainly better than that!

If you ask them, they might be even better than Dire Straits :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on December 09, 2017, 11:17:35 AM
According Caviglia, 3chord trick has nothing to do with MK
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: quizzaciously on December 09, 2017, 12:09:59 PM
According Caviglia, 3chord trick has nothing to do with MK

But not according to Phil Palmer right? :lol :lol :lol
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on December 09, 2017, 12:42:54 PM
According Caviglia, 3chord trick has nothing to do with MK

But not according to Phil Palmer right? :lol :lol :lol

I don't know. All we talked here is our interpretation
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dustyvalentino on December 09, 2017, 12:54:09 PM
Of course! I believe him completely!
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Eddie Fox on December 09, 2017, 03:33:30 PM
Honestly, if they had a decent and charismatic singer the band could do really well. I mean, look at all the tasteless s*** we hear on the radio these days... they are certainly better than that!

If you ask them, they might be even better than Dire Straits :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

That's certainly what Alan thinks at least lol
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Eddie Fox on December 09, 2017, 03:35:33 PM
Isn't Marco the guy who claims that Mark is his mentor even though they never met and travels around the world pretending to be the new Dire Straits frontman? Not exactly one to be trusted  :think
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Eddie Fox on December 09, 2017, 03:48:12 PM
They are so eagerly trying to replicate that DS sound that in one single song named Looking for America they kick off emulating Brothers in Arms, then they move on to Telegraph Road, then to Planet of New Orleans, Silvertown Blues... all that within 2 minutes. By the time they finally play something that sounds original - or at least don't try to sound like Mark Knopfler - you're so confused that you either stop it or go back to the beginning just to make sure you didn't miss any reference. Crazy. That's a real bad song, the others I came across are either good or ok. But if they want to get anywhere through their own songs they will need a new singer. Marco is horrendously bad.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: quizzaciously on December 09, 2017, 05:45:46 PM
They are so eagerly trying to replicate that DS sound that in one single song named Looking for America they kick off emulating Brothers in Arms, then they move on to Telegraph Road, then to Planet of New Orleans, Silvertown Blues... all that within 2 minutes. By the time they finally play something that sounds original - or at least don't try to sound like Mark Knopfler - you're so confused that you either stop it or go back to the beginning just to make sure you didn't miss any reference. Crazy. That's a real bad song, the others I came across are either good or ok. But if they want to get anywhere through their own songs they will need a new singer. Marco is horrendously bad.

I really can't understand how they continue to deliver after all this negative feedback... Even underneath their YouTube videos there's tons of negative comments about cringe and lack of originality and all... If I were to receive so much negative feedback on my website, I'd shut it down the second it was born. But why instead of making original music or playing in somebody's band they're playing this "MK related" game?

Why Paul Franklin doesn't do something like that? Or Jim Cox? Or Hal Lindes interestingly enough? Rhetorical question...
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Eddie Fox on December 09, 2017, 06:03:33 PM
I guess Alan wants to prove he was part of the deal creating the DS sound that made the band unique and distinguished. All he’s achieved is to be a pallid doppelgänger though.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Love Expresso on December 09, 2017, 09:36:55 PM
LOL

LE
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: zeta on December 10, 2017, 12:12:33 AM
Too many clues I'm afraid... They could've talk about random people, but who in Mark's circle can lead something that has to do with tribute, also happens to be old and feel he never had his share and a chip on both of his shoulders? Same with Palmer... Just the line about "lots of money" makes it clear to me.

Pretty sure it's about them (can't say it about Phil, but Alan and Chris definitely) — in 2013 Mark politely refuse to sign my LP with Clark and White autographs on it and told me to give him another one. So this is probably an answer.

It's a shame if Marco and the company shitting on Mark, but on the other side only because of them I've got a chance to see Pick performing live and meet him after the show (Phil got me backstage and I'm very greatful about it).
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Eddie Fox on December 10, 2017, 12:49:10 AM
Phil has said a number of disrespectful things about Mark. I don’t think Mark appreciates him very much these days...
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dustyvalentino on December 10, 2017, 12:53:24 AM
Hal Lindes has a solid career - he composes music for critically acclaimed TV drama series' here in the UK.

He doesn't need to get involved in this tawdry nonsense.

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Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Eddie Fox on December 11, 2017, 01:16:59 PM
I can't help thinking this whole Legacy bs might not be so bad after all. I can see Mark saying 'ok, so you punks think you can sound like DS, huh? So take this!'. New album comes out and boom!
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dmg on December 11, 2017, 02:34:51 PM
I can't help thinking this whole Legacy bs might not be so bad after all. I can see Mark saying 'ok, so you punks think you can sound like DS, huh? So take this!'. New album comes out and boom!

I like that line of thought.  So that's why the album is taking so long to complete... 

Let battle commence!
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Eddie Fox on December 11, 2017, 03:24:59 PM
I can't help thinking this whole Legacy bs might not be so bad after all. I can see Mark saying 'ok, so you punks think you can sound like DS, huh? So take this!'. New album comes out and boom!

I like that line of thought.  So that's why the album is taking so long to complete... 

Let battle commence!

In portuguese we have this saying 'hope is the last thing to die' lol I don't know if there's a similar expression in english but that basically means until the album is released there's still hope.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dmg on December 11, 2017, 04:04:52 PM
I can't help thinking this whole Legacy bs might not be so bad after all. I can see Mark saying 'ok, so you punks think you can sound like DS, huh? So take this!'. New album comes out and boom!

I like that line of thought.  So that's why the album is taking so long to complete... 

Let battle commence!

In portuguese we have this saying 'hope is the last thing to die' lol I don't know if there's a similar expression in english but that basically means until the album is released there's still hope.

I suppose the saying 'hope springs eternal' might be similar.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Eddie Fox on December 12, 2017, 04:04:37 PM
I can't help thinking this whole Legacy bs might not be so bad after all. I can see Mark saying 'ok, so you punks think you can sound like DS, huh? So take this!'. New album comes out and boom!

I like that line of thought.  So that's why the album is taking so long to complete... 

Let battle commence!

In portuguese we have this saying 'hope is the last thing to die' lol I don't know if there's a similar expression in english but that basically means until the album is released there's still hope.

I suppose the saying 'hope springs eternal' might be similar.

Thanks, dmg. I can't remember having heard it before but I probably have. It's happened quite a few times, I learn a new expression that I think I've never heard and suddenly it's everywhere lol
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Stanko on December 14, 2017, 08:25:46 PM
...and a big wheel keep on turning
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on December 14, 2017, 09:09:08 PM
Whatever has to do with the Legacy record, here is out of context. This is a thread about what they do as DS legacy, the tribute band, not about Legacy, the band with their own songs.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Masiakasaurus on December 16, 2017, 01:10:58 AM
3 chord trick is almost too much to even make a simple comment about. Not very subtle in all the references and play on words relating to MK songs. But one doesn't have to be subtle, so I guess that isn't a good critique.

It's almost ridiculous though to critisize MK and almost imply that he's "fooled" people into enjoying his music that much, in a song that's as MK sounding as it is. I understand the point they're trying to make, but... wow. Or maybe I'm reading in too much  ;D ?

The music's good though.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: PensaGhost on August 20, 2018, 04:26:40 PM
The Bug at about 2:15
They should have given Caviglia a flute, he would have been more useful

https://www.facebook.com/MadeInTaranto/videos/2099758890048187/
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on August 20, 2018, 04:32:19 PM
It's been a while...
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 20, 2018, 05:22:44 PM
And there are some who still call them Dire Straits like in the video title.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on August 20, 2018, 05:43:06 PM
https://youtu.be/_hVu2aJRzIA
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dustyvalentino on August 21, 2018, 08:43:22 AM
Just read and got annoyed about 3 Chord Trick all over again!
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on August 21, 2018, 10:34:30 AM
 :smack

 ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D ;D

 :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol :lol

 :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap :clap
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: PensaGhost on August 29, 2018, 09:44:30 PM
Some US and Europe dates, for the ones who wanna go, not me for sure

(https://scontent-mxp1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/40411128_1638174469641932_2096643042080456704_n.jpg?_nc_cat=0&oh=f94216874d802fb4921c76c8ae9b7da0&oe=5C3722CE)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Eddie Fox on August 30, 2018, 04:35:23 PM
Depending on how the tour is promoted - meaning making it clear it's a tribute band - I'd go check them, especially to see AC live.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: ybot on April 12, 2019, 05:38:07 AM
First time that 3 DS players came to Argentina.  Last night Alan, Phil and Jack
They were all nice.
I do not like Marco Caviglia's performancies, he lacks of any MK sense.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: PensaGhost on April 12, 2019, 03:59:26 PM
Nice Pro Shot, last song they play a Yes cover LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hrn_7qrnFI
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: ybot on April 12, 2019, 04:27:39 PM
Yes, they played "owner of a lonely heart"
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on April 12, 2019, 05:05:46 PM
They need a proper singer...
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: Vesper on April 12, 2019, 07:35:24 PM
Yes, they played "owner of a lonely heart"

At least that guy can sing ;D
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: kaleo74 on April 12, 2019, 07:43:14 PM
Nice Pro Shot, last song they play a Yes cover LOL

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-Hrn_7qrnFI

This is a Solid Snail ... this song shouldn't be played that slow
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 13, 2019, 09:18:32 AM
Is Trevor Horn still in the band? He wrote that song I seem to recall?
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on April 13, 2019, 11:29:38 AM
Is Trevor Horn still in the band? He wrote that song I seem to recall?

Yes, he is.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: PensaGhost on April 13, 2019, 04:28:49 PM
They should consider changing the name into Dire Straits Shameless
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: enrkaton82 on April 13, 2019, 04:53:27 PM
I´m not being hateful. Don´t get me wrong, i love tribute bands, but like we say in our land, the whole thing is an "I want but i can´t". Despite having good ingredients (Alan, Ferrone, Collins), tho whole recipe is a mess. About 2013, when they had Pick on drums, they made several good covers of the DS songs (hit and miss, to be honest), but nowadays, this only gets worse. I think that Caviglia and Palmer are guilty of this disaster.

Im not commenting about considerate and promote youself like "The original band" or even "The continuation of Dire Straits", but, jesus, the whole set is lacklust. They sound, slow, tired, not appealing, without shining solo parts ¿Where is Alan?, Collins (brilliant sax player, i love his recent live works with King Crimson) put some interesting arrangements, but sometimes is too much, Caviglia sounds average on guitar (my neighbour is a just a "beedroom guitarrist" and plays better. I mean, Caviglia does not make anything special) and horrible on vocals (Danny or Trevorhorn sing much better), Ferrone doesn´t sound good in many songs (despite of being a wonderful drummer) and the accordeon in songs like MFN or is something that deserve a punishment.

Just my 2 cents

If we think about a tribute act, this is one of the most presuntuous, and one of the worst sounding ones. Honestly, i prefer to listen small or medium bands of friends who play DS songs with love, respect and humbleness, and even sounds good!! without pretending being the successors of anything. They are who keep the legacy, not this fakers.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dmg on April 13, 2019, 05:06:41 PM
I´m not being hateful. Don´t get me wrong, i love tribute bands, but like we say in our land, the whole thing is an "I want but i can´t". Despite having good ingredients (Alan, Ferrone, Collins), tho whole recipe is a mess. About 2013, when they had Pick on drums, they made several good covers of the DS songs (hit and miss, to be honest), but nowadays, this only gets worse. I think that Caviglia and Palmer are guilty of this disaster.

Im not commenting about considerate and promote youself like "The original band" or even "The continuation of Dire Straits", but, jesus, the whole set is lacklust. They sound, slow, tired, not appealing, without shining solo parts ¿Where is Alan?, Collins (brilliant sax player, i love his recent live works with King Crimson) put some interesting arrangements, but sometimes is too much, Caviglia sounds average on guitar (my neighbour is a just a "beedroom guitarrist" and plays better. I mean, Caviglia does not make anything special) and horrible on vocals (Danny or Trevorhorn sing much better), Ferrone doesn´t sound good in many songs (despite of being a wonderful drummer) and the accordeon in songs like MFN or is something that deserve a punishment.

Just my 2 cents

If we think about a tribute act, this is one of the most presuntuous, and one of the worst sounding ones. Honestly, i prefer to listen small or medium bands of friends who play DS songs with love, respect and humbleness, and even sounds good!! without pretending being the successors of anything. They are who keep the legacy, not this fakers.

Absolutely agree with this. 
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: PensaGhost on April 13, 2019, 08:08:43 PM
I´m not being hateful. Don´t get me wrong, i love tribute bands, but like we say in our land, the whole thing is an "I want but i can´t". Despite having good ingredients (Alan, Ferrone, Collins), tho whole recipe is a mess. About 2013, when they had Pick on drums, they made several good covers of the DS songs (hit and miss, to be honest), but nowadays, this only gets worse. I think that Caviglia and Palmer are guilty of this disaster.

Im not commenting about considerate and promote youself like "The original band" or even "The continuation of Dire Straits", but, jesus, the whole set is lacklust. They sound, slow, tired, not appealing, without shining solo parts ¿Where is Alan?, Collins (brilliant sax player, i love his recent live works with King Crimson) put some interesting arrangements, but sometimes is too much, Caviglia sounds average on guitar (my neighbour is a just a "beedroom guitarrist" and plays better. I mean, Caviglia does not make anything special) and horrible on vocals (Danny or Trevorhorn sing much better), Ferrone doesn´t sound good in many songs (despite of being a wonderful drummer) and the accordeon in songs like MFN or is something that deserve a punishment.

Just my 2 cents

If we think about a tribute act, this is one of the most presuntuous, and one of the worst sounding ones. Honestly, i prefer to listen small or medium bands of friends who play DS songs with love, respect and humbleness, and even sounds good!! without pretending being the successors of anything. They are who keep the legacy, not this fakers.

Yes, well said, that's basically what I meant by 'shameless' while at the same time proposing the whole thing as something official or semi-official
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 13, 2019, 08:25:53 PM
They are considering changing the name into Dire Straits Shameless
Source?
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: PensaGhost on April 13, 2019, 09:02:29 PM
They are considering changing the name into Dire Straits Shameless
Source?

really ?
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 13, 2019, 09:09:42 PM
They are considering changing the name into Dire Straits Shameless
Source?

really ?
No, not really :)
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: ybot on April 14, 2019, 01:30:42 AM
Yes, they played "owner of a lonely heart"

At least that guy can sing ;D
Th problem is not to sing, his playing does not transmits he is in MK boots
I imagine Alan Clark private opininions
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: ybot on April 14, 2019, 01:37:42 AM
I´m not being hateful. Don´t get me wrong, i love tribute bands, but like we say in our land, the whole thing is an "I want but i can´t". Despite having good ingredients (Alan, Ferrone, Collins), tho whole recipe is a mess. About 2013, when they had Pick on drums, they made several good covers of the DS songs (hit and miss, to be honest), but nowadays, this only gets worse. I think that Caviglia and Palmer are guilty of this disaster.

Im not commenting about considerate and promote youself like "The original band" or even "The continuation of Dire Straits", but, jesus, the whole set is lacklust. They sound, slow, tired, not appealing, without shining solo parts ¿Where is Alan?, Collins (brilliant sax player, i love his recent live works with King Crimson) put some interesting arrangements, but sometimes is too much, Caviglia sounds average on guitar (my neighbour is a just a "beedroom guitarrist" and plays better. I mean, Caviglia does not make anything special) and horrible on vocals (Danny or Trevorhorn sing much better), Ferrone doesn´t sound good in many songs (despite of being a wonderful drummer) and the accordeon in songs like MFN or is something that deserve a punishment.

Just my 2 cents

If we think about a tribute act, this is one of the most presuntuous, and one of the worst sounding ones. Honestly, i prefer to listen small or medium bands of friends who play DS songs with love, respect and humbleness, and even sounds good!! without pretending being the successors of anything. They are who keep the legacy, not this fakers.
Nice comment!!
I believe, Marco does not lead the band, Alan or phil are the ones in charge
Caviglio guitar sound and loudness is lower.
Chck any other tribute band(dire strats, brothers in band, real straits, brothers in arms) , these tribute band have their guitarrists who surely play much better than Caviglia
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: ybot on April 14, 2019, 01:40:42 AM
I´m not being hateful. Don´t get me wrong, i love tribute bands, but like we say in our land, the whole thing is an "I want but i can´t". Despite having good ingredients (Alan, Ferrone, Collins), tho whole recipe is a mess. About 2013, when they had Pick on drums, they made several good covers of the DS songs (hit and miss, to be honest), but nowadays, this only gets worse. I think that Caviglia and Palmer are guilty of this disaster.

Im not commenting about considerate and promote youself like "The original band" or even "The continuation of Dire Straits", but, jesus, the whole set is lacklust. They sound, slow, tired, not appealing, without shining solo parts ¿Where is Alan?, Collins (brilliant sax player, i love his recent live works with King Crimson) put some interesting arrangements, but sometimes is too much, Caviglia sounds average on guitar (my neighbour is a just a "beedroom guitarrist" and plays better. I mean, Caviglia does not make anything special) and horrible on vocals (Danny or Trevorhorn sing much better), Ferrone doesn´t sound good in many songs (despite of being a wonderful drummer) and the accordeon in songs like MFN or is something that deserve a punishment.

Just my 2 cents

If we think about a tribute act, this is one of the most presuntuous, and one of the worst sounding ones. Honestly, i prefer to listen small or medium bands of friends who play DS songs with love, respect and humbleness, and even sounds good!! without pretending being the successors of anything. They are who keep the legacy, not this fakers.

Yes, well said, that's basically what I meant by 'shameless' while at the same time proposing the whole thing as something official or semi-official
They are less than a regular tribute band.
Apity, because AC and Phil palmer keep the same proffesionalism as ususal.
Jack Sonni a showman , as always
He was the only how came after they end the gig to greet.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: ybot on April 14, 2019, 01:43:30 AM
When they played SOS here in Buenos aires april 11th there was a sound malfunction of Caviglia guitar, in the middle of the song he could not play the solos and in the end he asked phil Palmer to play the last solo.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: PensaGhost on April 14, 2019, 02:36:25 PM
When they played SOS here in Buenos aires april 11th there was a sound malfunction of Caviglia guitar, in the middle of the song he could not play the solos and in the end he asked phil Palmer to play the last solo.

so you were lucky
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: ybot on April 14, 2019, 08:57:54 PM
I was really mad about it, I wanted to ask them to play it again, but well.
I was sitting on the 2nd line.
I could see AC's work because he was 2 meters away from me, he uses sound and voices effects i did not know.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: enrkaton82 on April 15, 2019, 02:16:01 PM
I´m not being hateful. Don´t get me wrong, i love tribute bands, but like we say in our land, the whole thing is an "I want but i can´t". Despite having good ingredients (Alan, Ferrone, Collins), tho whole recipe is a mess. About 2013, when they had Pick on drums, they made several good covers of the DS songs (hit and miss, to be honest), but nowadays, this only gets worse. I think that Caviglia and Palmer are guilty of this disaster.

Im not commenting about considerate and promote youself like "The original band" or even "The continuation of Dire Straits", but, jesus, the whole set is lacklust. They sound, slow, tired, not appealing, without shining solo parts ¿Where is Alan?, Collins (brilliant sax player, i love his recent live works with King Crimson) put some interesting arrangements, but sometimes is too much, Caviglia sounds average on guitar (my neighbour is a just a "beedroom guitarrist" and plays better. I mean, Caviglia does not make anything special) and horrible on vocals (Danny or Trevorhorn sing much better), Ferrone doesn´t sound good in many songs (despite of being a wonderful drummer) and the accordeon in songs like MFN or is something that deserve a punishment.

Just my 2 cents

If we think about a tribute act, this is one of the most presuntuous, and one of the worst sounding ones. Honestly, i prefer to listen small or medium bands of friends who play DS songs with love, respect and humbleness, and even sounds good!! without pretending being the successors of anything. They are who keep the legacy, not this fakers.
Nice comment!!
I believe, Marco does not lead the band, Alan or phil are the ones in charge
Caviglio guitar sound and loudness is lower.
Chck any other tribute band(dire strats, brothers in band, real straits, brothers in arms) , these tribute band have their guitarrists who surely play much better than Caviglia

I guess that Alan has his part of the leadingship, despite of the fact that we don´t se so much soloing or piano/organ parts. However, Phil has the spotlight several times.

I know these tribute acts, some via Youtube (specially Dire Strats, from germany. Their guitarrist is a monster), some because i have seen it live. For instance, i have seen Real Straits (really good ones) and Brothers in Band (three times, so i guess that i am able to juzgue. Very moving, also). I believe that these tribute bands keep the legacy much better.

I remember something that Ángel (lead guitar and singer from Real Straits) used to say in the live shows "We are not the real ones, but we are real ones". At the end of the day, i think that that´s all that matters: A bunch of great musicians who play whith talent and passion old songs that aren´t theirs, but that they care of these old tunes with affection and an huge respect, respecting the catalog of DS, the figure of MK and the craft of all musicians who played in DS. From that point of view, tribute band musicians are like us, fans who show a huge respect to MK, without wanting to dance in any "old shoes".


In order to cover DS music, a great technique and musical skill is needed, and big vintage (and expensive) sound stuff is also needed. Also passion, respect and affection towards this tunes. But this is not enough. Also "something more" is needed. I think that "DS legacy" have not that, but several cover bands have understood what that "something more" really means.


https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7KFbNIig9o (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=R7KFbNIig9o)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO1Cn6yBoF8 (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bO1Cn6yBoF8)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBzqBBxFBvw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZBzqBBxFBvw)

Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: ybot on April 15, 2019, 02:28:08 PM
ANGEL, from "real straits" use to play DS live song note for note.
He places each note at their side. This tribute band is the best copying live DS live songs
At "dire strats" coverband, Wolfgang Uhlich plays the guitar and there is a very nice singer. As Wolfgang is free to play he plays the best.
Legacy's solos are like studio versions.
Phil helps Marco.
We know that MK was reluctant to allow tje other musicans to alter their note. He was the only who modified each solo in each live gig
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: qjamesfloyd on April 16, 2019, 12:50:32 PM
I am sorry, but no matter how many of these tribute bands etc I hear, there is always something missing, that being Mark Knopfler, his unique voice and guitar is sorely missed by these bands.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: ybot on April 16, 2019, 01:07:44 PM
Yes, MK is missing, but, MK at 2019 is half the one of the 90's .
Some tribute bands mimick DS in its best times.
MK alone sings few DS songs and they are a shadow of our old live versions
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: qjamesfloyd on April 16, 2019, 01:12:06 PM
That's fine for some people, for me I would rather just watch Alchemy.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: superval99 on April 16, 2019, 01:31:50 PM
No-one can replace MK.  He is unique!  Even though he is not the same as in the early days when he was younger, I would much rather watch MK as he is now than a very good tribute band!
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: holaknopfler on April 16, 2019, 02:09:44 PM
I must say, I thought the Dire Straits Experience sounded quite good. Although I'm not a fan of tribute bands, I too would rather go to MK himself.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: jbaent on April 16, 2019, 02:11:45 PM
I must say, I thought the Dire Straits Experience sounded quite good. Although I'm not a fan of tribute bands, I too would rather go to MK himself.

You can go to MK and also could go to a good tribute band as well...
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: holaknopfler on April 16, 2019, 06:28:26 PM
I must say, I thought the Dire Straits Experience sounded quite good. Although I'm not a fan of tribute bands, I too would rather go to MK himself.

You can go to MK and also could go to a good tribute band as well...

Of course you can
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: PensaGhost on April 22, 2019, 06:07:58 PM
Last solo in both songs really embarrassing

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7tqRo6T2Z-0

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vbReEqc65yc
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: ybot on April 22, 2019, 08:28:31 PM
As Marco lacks of any MK skills, he sholud pick one live version for each song an play them
Some solos were played as studio versions.

Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: hunter on April 22, 2019, 11:08:13 PM
Marco's vocals sound like Zucchero covering Mark Knopfler. It's terrible.
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: holaknopfler on April 22, 2019, 11:32:39 PM
Oh dear.... :think
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: qjamesfloyd on April 24, 2019, 11:51:04 AM
What an awful frontman!!! He looks embarrassed to be there. his voice doesn't work, his playing is timid, why would anyone want to pay to watch that?
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: enrkaton82 on April 24, 2019, 08:42:52 PM
What an awful frontman!!! He looks embarrassed to be there. his voice doesn't work, his playing is timid, why would anyone want to pay to watch that?


Because they are the continuation of Dire Straits  :lol



Now seriously. Yes, that´s painful. But i also think that the abandon that South America fans suffered is also concerned in all this crazyness. I´m not justifying. Just trying to explain...  :think
Title: Re: Dire Straits Legacy - Jesus Street (New Song) live in Brazil- 2017
Post by: ybot on April 24, 2019, 08:46:15 PM
It was the first time I saw Alan Clark, 2 meters away from me.  And the super cheerful Jack Sonni, eventough we know he had a terrible loss last year.