A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: hunter on May 31, 2022, 11:56:57 AM
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Someone asked Guy this: Doc, In a video interview with JI he talked about his career and future unreleasesd stuff he wanted to revist from the vaults. Hopefully Portobello is the start of more to come. Was he right?
Guy's reply: John is always right.
Is it just Guy being Guy, or is he actually suggesting there's more unreleased stuff to be released? My dream would be a complete Alchemy release, not only excerpts.
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You just never know....
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I'm not into Guy's head, but they have certainly recovered and indexed all the old recordings. Surely not to be released, but to be preserved.
I'm more in the idea that they will use them to continue milking the cow, releasing little by little as extras, with Mark's approval.
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aLCHEMY is more complete. ON THE NIGHT is poorer.
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I think he just said John is always right, because John is John, and it's not related to release anything unreleased.
But, if release anything unreleased is under John's hands, there is a small chance, bigger that if depende on MK!
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aLCHEMY is more complete. ON THE NIGHT is poorer.
True, but – at least to me – the music from the Alchemy era (or LOG tour) is a lot more interesting.
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I don't believe they'll come back to Alchemy or On The Night. They should think about a concert from BIA tour.
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aLCHEMY is more complete. ON THE NIGHT is poorer.
True, but – at least to me – the music from the Alchemy era (or LOG tour) is a lot more interesting.
+1000 :thumbsup :thumbsup :thumbsup
I would far prefer to have the complete 1983 Portobello Belle and 1982 It never rains in good mixes than songs from the 91-92 era
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I don't believe that. They have given us absolutely nothing new since Live at the BBC, and that was 1995. Every 4 ou 5 years they gather together, drink a few beers and after a while they say: "Oh, yeah, Dire Straits, that still has a fanbase. Let's give them an LP reissue of an album we've already released!"
And another guy goes like: "Fantastic idea! Let's also give them another version of this song, but let's keep it cut-out because they wouldn't want to listen to a 13 minute track!"
This is how I imagine they decide things. I admire everyone's optimism in this forum but there's just a huge history of projects left in the shelf that we probably will never see and hear (Madrid 2001, Tracker 2015 Live, MK HHansen Documentary, etc.). I hope I'm wrong, but there will be nothing really new coming out.
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John always seems the member of the band who is most into the history, so he would be perfect do search the vaults and release some stuff, he would clearly have more time on his hands to do it than Mark and Guy, although I think Guy would help too.
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If MK, JI or the record-company have some thrilling live-recordings in the vault, possibly from the BIA-Aera, it will be cool to have a very good sounding concert-recording from the official side. Split 1985 or Christchurch 1986 in best sound quality will be cool, but that is my personal idea for that.
As we know, through our fellow fan-mate Jeroen, a lot of concerts had been recorded in various sound-qualities over the last 40 + years, but how many concerts had been recorded by the record company in those days, except Alchemy-gig or the On the Night-recordings. What do you think ? Are there any and many live-recordings in the vaults of the record-company or in the vaults of MK or JI.?? Can we hope for more complete live-material from various concerts around the globe ? :think
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I was just checking Guys forum and thought "hmm maybe I should order that art book", when I saw this. I think he is doing what he can, he knows what we want.
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If MK, JI or the record-company have some thrilling live-recordings in the vault, possibly from the BIA-Aera, it will be cool to have a very good sounding concert-recording from the official side. Split 1985 or Christchurch 1986 in best sound quality will be cool, but that is my personal idea for that.
As we know, through our fellow fan-mate Jeroen, a lot of concerts had been recorded in various sound-qualities over the last 40 + years, but how many concerts had been recorded by the record company in those days, except Alchemy-gig or the On the Night-recordings. What do you think ? Are there any and many live-recordings in the vaults of the record-company or in the vaults of MK or JI.?? Can we hope for more complete live-material from various concerts around the globe ? :think
One thing is the concerts recorded for broadcasting purposes, those are owned by the companies (radio or tv) that used them
Another thing is the concerts they recorded by themselves, and that's very little until more or less 2005, and if my memory serves, are these ones:
- Paris and London 1983 dates in order to release a live album (Alchemy)
- Paris, Rotterdam and Nimes 1992 dates in order to release a live album (On the night)
- Madrid, Bilbao, Newcastle and Glasgow 2001, in order to release a live dvd (only Madrid recorded in video) using parts of audio of the other concerts if patches were needed
- London, Shepherd Bush Empire 2002, in order to use audio parts and video parts for promotion of the RPD record
I'm sure they have more things recorded by themselves, as demos, rehearsals etc for internal use, for example, Phil Palmer said in his book that all the DS members got tapes of the production rehersals in order to listen to them while touring and refresh the setlists...
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I'd love a soundboard from the Boston show in 1980.
And all these shows from 1978 and 1979, of course.
Just dreaming...
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Did they not record the MK concert at the RAH in 1996 or was in 2001?? Some songs were on a best off cd.
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It was RAH 1996. I bet they record the whole concert :think
The following tracks were recorded live at the Royal Albert Hall on 23 May 1996 by Mark Knopfler.
"Calling Elvis" – 9:05
"Walk of Life" – 5:28
"Last Exit to Brooklyn" – 2:23
"Romeo and Juliet" – 7:30
"Sultans of Swing" – 13:14
"Brothers in Arms" – 8:54
"Money for Nothing" – 6:37
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Did they not record the MK concert at the RAH in 1996 or was in 2001?? Some songs were on a best off cd.
Edit:
It was RAH 1996. I bet they record the whole concert :think
The following tracks were recorded live at the Royal Albert Hall on 23 May 1996 by Mark Knopfler.
"Calling Elvis" – 9:05
"Walk of Life" – 5:28
"Last Exit to Brooklyn" – 2:23
"Romeo and Juliet" – 7:30
"Sultans of Swing" – 13:14
"Brothers in Arms" – 8:54
"Money for Nothing" – 6:37
Yes. This concert is on Sultans Of Swing (1998) compilation album.
The same for the special edition of The Ragpicker's Dream.
Why Aye Man, Quality Shoes - Shepherd's Bush Empire, London, UK, 24th July 2002
The next song So Far Away - Shepherd's Bush Empire, London, UK, 25th July 2002 on the single Why Aye Man
Sailing To Philadelphia, Brothers in Arms - Massey Hall, Toronto, Canada, 3rd May 2001
The next song Who's Your Baby from concert in Massey Hall on the single Boom Like That.
MK fans don't have an easy life :)
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Did they not record the MK concert at the RAH in 1996 or was in 2001?? Some songs were on a best off cd.
Edit:
It was RAH 1996. I bet they record the whole concert :think
The following tracks were recorded live at the Royal Albert Hall on 23 May 1996 by Mark Knopfler.
"Calling Elvis" – 9:05
"Walk of Life" – 5:28
"Last Exit to Brooklyn" – 2:23
"Romeo and Juliet" – 7:30
"Sultans of Swing" – 13:14
"Brothers in Arms" – 8:54
"Money for Nothing" – 6:37
That was recorded by the BBC and broadcasted by them. All 1996 soundboards were recorded by radios for broadcast, I guess they bought the rights from the BBC to put it on the compilation.
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Did they not record the MK concert at the RAH in 1996 or was in 2001?? Some songs were on a best off cd.
Edit:
It was RAH 1996. I bet they record the whole concert :think
The following tracks were recorded live at the Royal Albert Hall on 23 May 1996 by Mark Knopfler.
"Calling Elvis" – 9:05
"Walk of Life" – 5:28
"Last Exit to Brooklyn" – 2:23
"Romeo and Juliet" – 7:30
"Sultans of Swing" – 13:14
"Brothers in Arms" – 8:54
"Money for Nothing" – 6:37
Yes. This concert is on Sultans Of Swing (1998) compilation album.
The same for the special edition of The Ragpicker's Dream.
Why Aye Man, Quality Shoes - Shepherd's Bush Empire, London, UK, 24th July 2002
The next song So Far Away - Shepherd's Bush Empire, London, UK, 25th July 2002 on the single Why Aye Man
Sailing To Philadelphia, Brothers in Arms - Massey Hall, Toronto, Canada, 3rd May 2001
The next song Who's Your Baby from concert in Massey Hall on the single Boom Like That.
MK fans don't have an easy life :)
I forgot they recorded also the Toronto 2001 concert!
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I'd love a soundboard from the Boston show in 1980.
And all these shows from 1978 and 1979, of course.
Just dreaming...
+1000 :thumbsup :thumbsup
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"soundboard from the Boston show in 1980"
I think it was an audience recording
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That was recorded by the BBC and broadcasted by them. All 1996 soundboards were recorded by radios for broadcast, I guess they bought the rights from the BBC to put it on the compilation.
BBC?
No BBC aired the Colston Hall show in Bristol May 19th 1996 : Mark Knopfler – In Concert 675
The credits on Sultans Of Swing (The Very Best Of Dire Straits) are :
These recordings were made for a live US radio broadcast by Album Network at the Royal Albert Hall, London on 23rd May 1996. They have not been remixed, overdubbed or altered in any way. Our thanks go to Manor Mobiles, engineer Dave Porter and Mark Felsot at Album Network.
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If anyone will release some hidden stuff then it will be johns influence. Don’t forget when interviewed I think in the 2000s he said they still had an album in them - which meant he’d like a follow up to every street but there must be lots from the cutting room floor that he’d like to give a dust off to, perhaps as a raw demos thing. Let’s hope so!
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He also said at the time they still had a tour in them........
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He also said at the time they still had a tour in them........
Actually they should have a proper last tour, something smaller in scale, with a more friendly band with less proffesional musicians hired just for the occasion, having familiar faces surrounding them (like McIntosh for example) and tickets being sold for loyal fans buying tickets to markknofler.com to have controled the scale of it...
And if that would happen it would be really a celebration of their music with their fans, not like the last DS one who was more like an economical thing.
But that's not happening anyway, with MK retiring from touring as a solo artist...
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He also said at the time they still had a tour in them........
Actually they should have a proper last tour, something smaller in scale, with a more friendly band with less proffesional musicians hired just for the occasion, having familiar faces surrounding them (like McIntosh for example) and tickets being sold for loyal fans buying tickets to markknofler.com to have controled the scale of it...
And if that would happen it would be really a celebration of their music with their fans, not like the last DS one who was more like an economical thing.
But that's not happening anyway, with MK retiring from touring as a solo artist...
It's like you're describing the Golden Heart tour ;D
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He also said at the time they still had a tour in them........
Actually they should have a proper last tour, something smaller in scale, with a more friendly band with less proffesional musicians hired just for the occasion, having familiar faces surrounding them (like McIntosh for example) and tickets being sold for loyal fans buying tickets to markknofler.com to have controled the scale of it...
And if that would happen it would be really a celebration of their music with their fans, not like the last DS one who was more like an economical thing.
But that's not happening anyway, with MK retiring from touring as a solo artist...
It's like you're describing the Golden Heart tour ;D
Actually I'm describing the MK and friends gig, but changing Danny Cummings on drums by probably Ianto, Chris White on sax for Nigel Hitchcock and hopefully Geraint Watkings by Alan Clark, but I'm not sure if MK would ask Alan to come back after all the Legacy thing...
Probably the tickets thing would be themore difficult part, as MK.com should check the buyers from the last MK solo tours and award their compromise with the MK solo career, or maybe just ask for a premium account to nowadays subscribers in order to sort it the smaller as possible.
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He also said at the time they still had a tour in them........
Actually they should have a proper last tour, something smaller in scale, with a more friendly band with less proffesional musicians hired just for the occasion, having familiar faces surrounding them (like McIntosh for example) and tickets being sold for loyal fans buying tickets to markknofler.com to have controled the scale of it...
And if that would happen it would be really a celebration of their music with their fans, not like the last DS one who was more like an economical thing.
But that's not happening anyway, with MK retiring from touring as a solo artist...
It's like you're describing the Golden Heart tour ;D
Actually I'm describing the MK and friends gig, but changing Danny Cummings on drums by probably Ianto, Chris White on sax for Nigel Hitchcock and hopefully Geraint Watkings by Alan Clark, but I'm not sure if MK would ask Alan to come back after all the Legacy thing...
Probably the tickets thing would be themore difficult part, as MK.com should check the buyers from the last MK solo tours and award their compromise with the MK solo career, or maybe just ask for a premium account to nowadays subscribers in order to sort it the smaller as possible.
it's very subjective
I could only attend a few gigs in DS/Mark's carreer during my life : 6 in total
But without any pretentiousness, I call me a guenine hard fan.
and I am sure that there are many others who never could go to an MK gig
wouldn't they be "allowed" to get tickets then ? :think
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He also said at the time they still had a tour in them........
Actually they should have a proper last tour, something smaller in scale, with a more friendly band with less proffesional musicians hired just for the occasion, having familiar faces surrounding them (like McIntosh for example) and tickets being sold for loyal fans buying tickets to markknofler.com to have controled the scale of it...
And if that would happen it would be really a celebration of their music with their fans, not like the last DS one who was more like an economical thing.
But that's not happening anyway, with MK retiring from touring as a solo artist...
It's like you're describing the Golden Heart tour ;D
Actually I'm describing the MK and friends gig, but changing Danny Cummings on drums by probably Ianto, Chris White on sax for Nigel Hitchcock and hopefully Geraint Watkings by Alan Clark, but I'm not sure if MK would ask Alan to come back after all the Legacy thing...
Probably the tickets thing would be themore difficult part, as MK.com should check the buyers from the last MK solo tours and award their compromise with the MK solo career, or maybe just ask for a premium account to nowadays subscribers in order to sort it the smaller as possible.
it's very subjective
I could only attend a few gigs in DS/Mark's carreer during my life : 6 in total
But without any pretentiousness, I call me a guenine hard fan.
and I am sure that there are many others who never could go to an MK gig
wouldn't they be "allowed" to get tickets then ? :think
Would you give advantage to someone that never attended a MK solo gig but wants to see Dire Straits, or would you give that advantage to someone that followed the MK solo career?
If anyone never could go to a MK solo gig, now suddenly they can go to a DS one?
Just give priority to loyal fans, and casual fans later if there are still tickets.
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He also said at the time they still had a tour in them........
Actually they should have a proper last tour, something smaller in scale, with a more friendly band with less proffesional musicians hired just for the occasion, having familiar faces surrounding them (like McIntosh for example) and tickets being sold for loyal fans buying tickets to markknofler.com to have controled the scale of it...
And if that would happen it would be really a celebration of their music with their fans, not like the last DS one who was more like an economical thing.
But that's not happening anyway, with MK retiring from touring as a solo artist...
It's like you're describing the Golden Heart tour ;D
Actually I'm describing the MK and friends gig, but changing Danny Cummings on drums by probably Ianto, Chris White on sax for Nigel Hitchcock and hopefully Geraint Watkings by Alan Clark, but I'm not sure if MK would ask Alan to come back after all the Legacy thing...
Probably the tickets thing would be themore difficult part, as MK.com should check the buyers from the last MK solo tours and award their compromise with the MK solo career, or maybe just ask for a premium account to nowadays subscribers in order to sort it the smaller as possible.
it's very subjective
I could only attend a few gigs in DS/Mark's carreer during my life : 6 in total
But without any pretentiousness, I call me a guenine hard fan.
and I am sure that there are many others who never could go to an MK gig
wouldn't they be "allowed" to get tickets then ? :think
Would you give advantage to someone that never attended a MK solo gig but wants to see Dire Straits, or would you give that advantage to someone that followed the MK solo career?
If anyone never could go to a MK solo gig, now suddenly they can go to a DS one?
Just give priority to loyal fans, and casual fans later if there are still tickets.
this is exactly what I mean : what is the criteria to judge who are "loyal fans ?
I couldn't go to many gigs like other people because of personnal matters.
I don't think that number of gigs I attended can make a level oy my "loyalty" to MK
I bet that many people saw far more gigs than me, but know less Mark's music than me... it's all subjective
and I can't see how such a rule could work : you attended xxx gigs ? ok you are a loyal fan ! :disbelief :disbelief :smack :smack
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He also said at the time they still had a tour in them........
Actually they should have a proper last tour, something smaller in scale, with a more friendly band with less proffesional musicians hired just for the occasion, having familiar faces surrounding them (like McIntosh for example) and tickets being sold for loyal fans buying tickets to markknofler.com to have controled the scale of it...
And if that would happen it would be really a celebration of their music with their fans, not like the last DS one who was more like an economical thing.
But that's not happening anyway, with MK retiring from touring as a solo artist...
It's like you're describing the Golden Heart tour ;D
Actually I'm describing the MK and friends gig, but changing Danny Cummings on drums by probably Ianto, Chris White on sax for Nigel Hitchcock and hopefully Geraint Watkings by Alan Clark, but I'm not sure if MK would ask Alan to come back after all the Legacy thing...
Probably the tickets thing would be themore difficult part, as MK.com should check the buyers from the last MK solo tours and award their compromise with the MK solo career, or maybe just ask for a premium account to nowadays subscribers in order to sort it the smaller as possible.
it's very subjective
I could only attend a few gigs in DS/Mark's carreer during my life : 6 in total
But without any pretentiousness, I call me a guenine hard fan.
and I am sure that there are many others who never could go to an MK gig
wouldn't they be "allowed" to get tickets then ? :think
Would you give advantage to someone that never attended a MK solo gig but wants to see Dire Straits, or would you give that advantage to someone that followed the MK solo career?
If anyone never could go to a MK solo gig, now suddenly they can go to a DS one?
Just give priority to loyal fans, and casual fans later if there are still tickets.
this is exactly what I mean : what is the criteria to judge who are "loyal fans ?
I couldn't go to many gigs like other people because of personnal matters.
I don't think that number of gigs I attended can make a level oy my "loyalty" to MK
I bet that many people saw far more gigs than me, but know less Mark's music than me... it's all subjective
and I can't see how such a rule could work : you attended xxx gigs ? ok you are a loyal fan ! :disbelief :disbelief :smack :smack
My best example would be, I heard there was a guy who wrote a great book on China's history or something and had never been to the country itself. I attended only 3 Mark's shows in my lifetime, and so what? People who can afford it, or live in Germany (LOLS), can visit as many shows as they want. In some countries, he barely played, so if I would live in Australia I would give up on waiting for MK to arrive. If it's too expensive even for him, why I should bother to see him then? Isn't that a bit egoistic on his part? LOL.
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When I went to MK & Friends in 2002, three evenings at SBE, indelible memory, I remember that the concerts were promoted by the official website of MK, without too much pomp, but anyone who knew about MK understood that among other things, that was also ' a reunion of the DS '. I think Jbaent means something like this, something small made just for us. This does not mean forbidding someone from going to a concert even if it would be their first ever or a completely zero about MK or DS. I hope and believe that something like this will happen, like in 2002 everyone on the same stage playing Blues stay away from me, Setting me up, Sailing to Philadelphia, Going Home ... :thumbsup
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He also said at the time they still had a tour in them........
Actually they should have a proper last tour, something smaller in scale, with a more friendly band with less proffesional musicians hired just for the occasion, having familiar faces surrounding them (like McIntosh for example) and tickets being sold for loyal fans buying tickets to markknofler.com to have controled the scale of it...
And if that would happen it would be really a celebration of their music with their fans, not like the last DS one who was more like an economical thing.
But that's not happening anyway, with MK retiring from touring as a solo artist...
It's like you're describing the Golden Heart tour ;D
Actually I'm describing the MK and friends gig, but changing Danny Cummings on drums by probably Ianto, Chris White on sax for Nigel Hitchcock and hopefully Geraint Watkings by Alan Clark, but I'm not sure if MK would ask Alan to come back after all the Legacy thing...
Probably the tickets thing would be themore difficult part, as MK.com should check the buyers from the last MK solo tours and award their compromise with the MK solo career, or maybe just ask for a premium account to nowadays subscribers in order to sort it the smaller as possible.
it's very subjective
I could only attend a few gigs in DS/Mark's carreer during my life : 6 in total
But without any pretentiousness, I call me a guenine hard fan.
and I am sure that there are many others who never could go to an MK gig
wouldn't they be "allowed" to get tickets then ? :think
Would you give advantage to someone that never attended a MK solo gig but wants to see Dire Straits, or would you give that advantage to someone that followed the MK solo career?
If anyone never could go to a MK solo gig, now suddenly they can go to a DS one?
Just give priority to loyal fans, and casual fans later if there are still tickets.
this is exactly what I mean : what is the criteria to judge who are "loyal fans ?
I couldn't go to many gigs like other people because of personnal matters.
I don't think that number of gigs I attended can make a level oy my "loyalty" to MK
I bet that many people saw far more gigs than me, but know less Mark's music than me... it's all subjective
and I can't see how such a rule could work : you attended xxx gigs ? ok you are a loyal fan ! :disbelief :disbelief :smack :smack
My best example would be, I heard there was a guy who wrote a great book on China's history or something and had never been to the country itself. I attended only 3 Mark's shows in my lifetime, and so what? People who can afford it, or live in Germany (LOLS), can visit as many shows as they want. In some countries, he barely played, so if I would live in Australia I would give up on waiting for MK to arrive. If it's too expensive even for him, why I should bother to see him then? Isn't that a bit egoistic on his part? LOL.
I'll never know why he stopped going to Australia. It seemed like the country and the band had a really special connection in the 80's, but after the OES tour he only went there in 2005 - I think - to never comeback again.
The financial explanation doesn't make much sense to me. It's one of the richest countries in the world, surely the ticket sales would be able to cover the cost. I think he just stopped giving a damn. He's in his confort zone since 2005.
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When I went to MK & Friends in 2002, three evenings at SBE, indelible memory, I remember that the concerts were promoted by the official website of MK, without too much pomp, but anyone who knew about MK understood that among other things, that was also ' a reunion of the DS '. I think Jbaent means something like this, something small made just for us. This does not mean forbidding someone from going to a concert even if it would be their first ever or a completely zero about MK or DS. I hope and believe that something like this will happen, like in 2002 everyone on the same stage playing Blues stay away from me, Setting me up, Sailing to Philadelphia, Going Home ... :thumbsup
I surely would have loved to go to these gigs, but at time , I just COULDN'T.... does it make me a "less loyal fan" ??? :hmm
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When I went to MK & Friends in 2002, three evenings at SBE, indelible memory, I remember that the concerts were promoted by the official website of MK, without too much pomp, but anyone who knew about MK understood that among other things, that was also ' a reunion of the DS '. I think Jbaent means something like this, something small made just for us. This does not mean forbidding someone from going to a concert even if it would be their first ever or a completely zero about MK or DS. I hope and believe that something like this will happen, like in 2002 everyone on the same stage playing Blues stay away from me, Setting me up, Sailing to Philadelphia, Going Home ... :thumbsup
I surely would have loved to go to these gigs, but at time , I just COULDN'T.... does it make me a "less loyal fan" ??? :hmm
Of course not.
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He also said at the time they still had a tour in them........
Actually they should have a proper last tour, something smaller in scale, with a more friendly band with less proffesional musicians hired just for the occasion, having familiar faces surrounding them (like McIntosh for example) and tickets being sold for loyal fans buying tickets to markknofler.com to have controled the scale of it...
And if that would happen it would be really a celebration of their music with their fans, not like the last DS one who was more like an economical thing.
But that's not happening anyway, with MK retiring from touring as a solo artist...
It's like you're describing the Golden Heart tour ;D
Actually I'm describing the MK and friends gig, but changing Danny Cummings on drums by probably Ianto, Chris White on sax for Nigel Hitchcock and hopefully Geraint Watkings by Alan Clark, but I'm not sure if MK would ask Alan to come back after all the Legacy thing...
Probably the tickets thing would be themore difficult part, as MK.com should check the buyers from the last MK solo tours and award their compromise with the MK solo career, or maybe just ask for a premium account to nowadays subscribers in order to sort it the smaller as possible.
it's very subjective
I could only attend a few gigs in DS/Mark's carreer during my life : 6 in total
But without any pretentiousness, I call me a guenine hard fan.
and I am sure that there are many others who never could go to an MK gig
wouldn't they be "allowed" to get tickets then ? :think
Would you give advantage to someone that never attended a MK solo gig but wants to see Dire Straits, or would you give that advantage to someone that followed the MK solo career?
If anyone never could go to a MK solo gig, now suddenly they can go to a DS one?
Just give priority to loyal fans, and casual fans later if there are still tickets.
this is exactly what I mean : what is the criteria to judge who are "loyal fans ?
I couldn't go to many gigs like other people because of personnal matters.
I don't think that number of gigs I attended can make a level oy my "loyalty" to MK
I bet that many people saw far more gigs than me, but know less Mark's music than me... it's all subjective
and I can't see how such a rule could work : you attended xxx gigs ? ok you are a loyal fan ! :disbelief :disbelief :smack :smack
My best example would be, I heard there was a guy who wrote a great book on China's history or something and had never been to the country itself. I attended only 3 Mark's shows in my lifetime, and so what? People who can afford it, or live in Germany (LOLS), can visit as many shows as they want. In some countries, he barely played, so if I would live in Australia I would give up on waiting for MK to arrive. If it's too expensive even for him, why I should bother to see him then? Isn't that a bit egoistic on his part? LOL.
I'll never know why he stopped going to Australia. It seemed like the country and the band had a really special connection in the 80's, but after the OES tour he only went there in 2005 - I think - to never comeback again.
The financial explanation doesn't make much sense to me. It's one of the richest countries in the world, surely the ticket sales would be able to cover the cost. I think he just stopped giving a damn. He's in his confort zone since 2005.
In 2005, there was also South America and the places where Mark played for the first time.
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When I went to MK & Friends in 2002, three evenings at SBE, indelible memory, I remember that the concerts were promoted by the official website of MK, without too much pomp, but anyone who knew about MK understood that among other things, that was also ' a reunion of the DS '. I think Jbaent means something like this, something small made just for us. This does not mean forbidding someone from going to a concert even if it would be their first ever or a completely zero about MK or DS. I hope and believe that something like this will happen, like in 2002 everyone on the same stage playing Blues stay away from me, Setting me up, Sailing to Philadelphia, Going Home ... :thumbsup
I surely would have loved to go to these gigs, but at time , I just COULDN'T.... does it make me a "less loyal fan" ??? :hmm
No sure. Never say that. I hope in a MK & Friends like 2002 :thumbsup
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He also said at the time they still had a tour in them........
Actually they should have a proper last tour, something smaller in scale, with a more friendly band with less proffesional musicians hired just for the occasion, having familiar faces surrounding them (like McIntosh for example) and tickets being sold for loyal fans buying tickets to markknofler.com to have controled the scale of it...
And if that would happen it would be really a celebration of their music with their fans, not like the last DS one who was more like an economical thing.
But that's not happening anyway, with MK retiring from touring as a solo artist...
It's like you're describing the Golden Heart tour ;D
Actually I'm describing the MK and friends gig, but changing Danny Cummings on drums by probably Ianto, Chris White on sax for Nigel Hitchcock and hopefully Geraint Watkings by Alan Clark, but I'm not sure if MK would ask Alan to come back after all the Legacy thing...
Probably the tickets thing would be themore difficult part, as MK.com should check the buyers from the last MK solo tours and award their compromise with the MK solo career, or maybe just ask for a premium account to nowadays subscribers in order to sort it the smaller as possible.
it's very subjective
I could only attend a few gigs in DS/Mark's carreer during my life : 6 in total
But without any pretentiousness, I call me a guenine hard fan.
and I am sure that there are many others who never could go to an MK gig
wouldn't they be "allowed" to get tickets then ? :think
Would you give advantage to someone that never attended a MK solo gig but wants to see Dire Straits, or would you give that advantage to someone that followed the MK solo career?
If anyone never could go to a MK solo gig, now suddenly they can go to a DS one?
Just give priority to loyal fans, and casual fans later if there are still tickets.
this is exactly what I mean : what is the criteria to judge who are "loyal fans ?
I couldn't go to many gigs like other people because of personnal matters.
I don't think that number of gigs I attended can make a level oy my "loyalty" to MK
I bet that many people saw far more gigs than me, but know less Mark's music than me... it's all subjective
and I can't see how such a rule could work : you attended xxx gigs ? ok you are a loyal fan ! :disbelief :disbelief :smack :smack
My best example would be, I heard there was a guy who wrote a great book on China's history or something and had never been to the country itself. I attended only 3 Mark's shows in my lifetime, and so what? People who can afford it, or live in Germany (LOLS), can visit as many shows as they want. In some countries, he barely played, so if I would live in Australia I would give up on waiting for MK to arrive. If it's too expensive even for him, why I should bother to see him then? Isn't that a bit egoistic on his part? LOL.
I'll never know why he stopped going to Australia. It seemed like the country and the band had a really special connection in the 80's, but after the OES tour he only went there in 2005 - I think - to never comeback again.
The financial explanation doesn't make much sense to me. It's one of the richest countries in the world, surely the ticket sales would be able to cover the cost. I think he just stopped giving a damn. He's in his confort zone since 2005.
They lost money and had to cancel shows in 91. It is strange how DS went from being so huge in 86 to indifference in Australia 5 years later.
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I think the music landscape was starting to change, with the likes of grunge etc emerging. :(
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When they went back to Australia in 2005 they also had problem selling the gigs, I remember they had to do promotion because it wasn't selling as expected, I even remember Guy telling on his site about one gig in a theatre in Sydney that wasn't selling well and that was a very big chance of seeing them in a more intimate scenario...
If they did a last DS tour, there would be hugh demand so they should do something to control it, not going out of the smaller size they would want it to be, and usually big names like The Police or Genesis, even Clapton nowadays, what they do is offer a premium account where you pay a certain amount and you have access to priority tickets before it went on sale for general public. I don't like this way as scalpers can register and buy tickets as those premiums accounts are open to everyone, but that's the easy way for them to organize it.
I would prefer that from MK site they use another system like, giving that priority to users registered before the last tour went on sale, or that bought tickets for any of the previous tours, and after that, a second presale for premium new users, and after that, general sale. I truly think that if there is a last DS tour, the old loyal fans should have priority to the ones that are only interested in a last reunion. Yes, judge the loyalty can be subjective, but the being registered before the last tour could be something maybe better that if you never bought a ticket to any of the MK tours, but I think that MK had toured alone enough so you have might seen him in one tour or the other....
Anyway, this is very unlikely to happen. Maybe release unreleased stuff is something that might happen if John is on charge and MK has to do nothing except saying "Ok, go on", because if MK is on charge... just forget about it.
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MK is in charge. He wrote all the songs and was the leader of DS. Since he has NO interest in anything that has to do with DS for many years i would be surprised if something new would come up anytime soon…. Perhaps he will give a go for a song or 2 to dust up and release it on Spotify…. But something like a new live album from the BIA tour. It would really surprise me.
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I think the music landscape was starting to change, with the likes of grunge etc emerging. :(
That's true. I knew it but never thought about it. Grunge music changed the music scene not only in USA.
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Both leg of european tour were huge success
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If DS was still touring this day it is my believe they would stil be one of the biggest names in music and would stil sell out huge venues/stadiums. They have a huge fanbase. They would still be touring the world with sold out concerts in many countries.
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Mark once said (The Ragpicker's Dream period) that he could record such music from DS. It's just a name I don't need.
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He also said at the time they still had a tour in them........
Actually they should have a proper last tour, something smaller in scale, with a more friendly band with less proffesional musicians hired just for the occasion, having familiar faces surrounding them (like McIntosh for example) and tickets being sold for loyal fans buying tickets to markknofler.com to have controled the scale of it...
And if that would happen it would be really a celebration of their music with their fans, not like the last DS one who was more like an economical thing.
But that's not happening anyway, with MK retiring from touring as a solo artist...
It's like you're describing the Golden Heart tour ;D
Actually I'm describing the MK and friends gig, but changing Danny Cummings on drums by probably Ianto, Chris White on sax for Nigel Hitchcock and hopefully Geraint Watkings by Alan Clark, but I'm not sure if MK would ask Alan to come back after all the Legacy thing...
Probably the tickets thing would be themore difficult part, as MK.com should check the buyers from the last MK solo tours and award their compromise with the MK solo career, or maybe just ask for a premium account to nowadays subscribers in order to sort it the smaller as possible.
it's very subjective
I could only attend a few gigs in DS/Mark's carreer during my life : 6 in total
But without any pretentiousness, I call me a guenine hard fan.
and I am sure that there are many others who never could go to an MK gig
wouldn't they be "allowed" to get tickets then ? :think
Whether it's a new solo tour, or a Dire Straits reunion, I just hope I get the opportunity to see it live for the first time, it's the one experience I've been missing as a fan and researcher for over 20 years. :think
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I think by the time the new album is released there will be statement about a new tour. Whatever that wil be….
A few concerts in the UK, a few in the UK and Europe or perhaps no concerts at all???
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I think the music landscape was starting to change, with the likes of grunge etc emerging. :(
That's true. I knew it but never thought about it. Grunge music changed the music scene not only in USA.
I was around then and grunge was big but it wasn't everything. I think it got rid of hair metal but that was overdue anyway as they didn't really have the songs anymore. The following acts were huge in 1992:
U2
Whitney Houston
Prince
George Michael
Simply Red massive in Europe (Stars the biggest selling record in the UK in both 91 and 92)
Michael Jackson
Guns and Roses
Metallica
So it wasn't as if grunge came and took over everything. Same way as punk didn't change everything in the 70s as we are told now, disco sold much more records.
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I think the music landscape was starting to change, with the likes of grunge etc emerging. :(
That's true. I knew it but never thought about it. Grunge music changed the music scene not only in USA.
I was around then and grunge was big but it wasn't everything. I think it got rid of hair metal but that was overdue anyway as they didn't really have the songs anymore. The following acts were huge in 1992:
U2
Whitney Houston
Prince
George Michael
Simply Red massive in Europe (Stars the biggest selling record in the UK in both 91 and 92)
Michael Jackson
Guns and Roses
Metallica
So it wasn't as if grunge came and took over everything. Same way as punk didn't change everything in the 70s as we are told now, disco sold much more records.
and we can ad Genesis' We Can't Dance album and tour 91/92 to your list.
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And Paul Simon Rhytym of the saints/Born at the right time tour 1991/1992
Pink Floyd The division bell tour 1993…
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I would add Kravitz too.
I think his second album "Mama said" was a big seller
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Pearl jam with the album Ten.
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Whoever coincided in time with DS, they were a massive success in Europe, they sold well or enough in North America, failed and losed money in Australia and Ne Zealnda, and had to cancel plans to play South America and Western Europe.
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And in America Garth Brooks sold more than anybody previously mentioned in 1991!
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I'm probably reading far to much into this but latest comments from Guy don't look negative on the prospect of old material being released . He refers to Dolby Atmos mixes which must be for the MFN comp?
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I'm probably reading far to much into this but latest comments from Guy don't look negative on the prospect of old material being released . He refers to Dolby Atmos mixes which must be for the MFN comp?
How he can be negative when it's a part of his job to "look after" his own work? Artists who say they look forward only and they never look back are just snobbish and childish people who want to look cooler in the eyes of the audience. Of course, you look forward only, because that's your job.
There are artists who milk their past works for what it's worth, but when you're OBVIOUSLY an artist who's consistent in releasing new material and rarely really looks back, it's... Well... That you don't look back, it's obvious, for one thing, and cheapens your past works a little bit.
I always read it like "don't waste your time checking out my past works, see what I've got right now". In any way, this phrase about looking forward is so stupid.