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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: superval99 on February 08, 2015, 08:03:54 PM

Title: Brothers in Arms
Post by: superval99 on February 08, 2015, 08:03:54 PM
Brothers in Arms has re-entered the UK charts at # 8!    :D   
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: knopfling on February 08, 2015, 08:08:53 PM
Nice!
Reaspm?
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: 3Strats on February 08, 2015, 08:47:09 PM
I'd like to put it down to the number of times I've played my old "Live in 85" VHS video during the last week while trying to get an acceptable copy to transfer to DVD, but as that doesn't result in any sales I think I'm just guilty of wishful thinking !   

Whatever the reason, it is remarkable that it has re-entered at No.8  I can't think of any recent publicity in the UK that could result in a "run" on DS albums.
Perhaps people have been downloading it after buying tickets for the Tracker tour when they realised they couldn't find their old CD  :think  :hmm
Four days ago the reports said it had re-entered at number 4 !

Possibly more surreal is the fact that Mr Bob has just gone to number one in the UK chart with an album of Sinatra covers ?????
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 08, 2015, 10:00:31 PM
It's deal of the week on Google Play, 99p to download the album.  :)
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: Marijo58 on February 09, 2015, 01:39:45 PM
Wonderful news!! I had the LP because my Brother bought it for me as a gift when he came to visit me in Sweden in the 80's but as I moved a lot in the 90's I somehow managed to loose it so I bought the CD again last year!!!
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: xxFordiexx on February 09, 2015, 07:05:35 PM
Awesome stuff. There are loads of other albums at 99p on the Google store atm too, so it goes to show that Dire Straits are a massive impact for music seeing as they are not in the top ten. Excellent aachievement and album that's 30 years old. So relevant Mr Knopfler and crew.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: Stanko on February 09, 2015, 09:23:28 PM
It says of its quality by its own. Like a vine - it's getting better with the age! :thumbsup
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: dmg on February 09, 2015, 09:39:19 PM
I'll bet Mark's quietly pleased about this.  He'll go into a room on his own and jump up and down!  ;)
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: Hoops McCann on February 09, 2015, 11:02:32 PM
I'll bet Mark's quietly pleased about this.  He'll go into a room on his own and jump up and down!  ;)

He'll celebrate by ending every show on the Tracker tour with So Far Away.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: rudiger on February 09, 2015, 11:20:06 PM
I may have helped a little  ;D

(http://s12.postimg.org/zavhw57kd/BIA_35.jpg)
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: dmg on February 10, 2015, 12:19:43 PM
I'll bet Mark's quietly pleased about this.  He'll go into a room on his own and jump up and down!  ;)

He'll celebrate by ending every show on the Tracker tour with So Far Away.

 :smack
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: dmg on February 10, 2015, 12:25:35 PM
Just having a little laugh at your post R
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Post by: vgonis on February 10, 2015, 07:08:52 PM
rudiger you have 35 versions of the CD? Wow! I must have 20 versions on vinyl and CD together.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: rudiger on February 10, 2015, 07:19:56 PM
Actually the pic is not comprehensive: I think (not including vinyls and cassette) I have about 50 different editions (http://smiley.yahooplus.ro/pics/smilies/smiley-shame-7.gif)
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: vgonis on February 10, 2015, 07:25:58 PM
Only John Bennett who is focused on collecting BiA must have more! 

Some of the most interesting versions are the Yugoslavian vinyl with slightly different lyrics printed for MFN. The Korean that for some peculiar reason leaves out RATR and puts WW first on Side B. There is also an extra rare test pressing from Poland with the songs at their full CD versions (don't have it).  Which reminds me of another picture disc the SOS single from Poland.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: Justme on February 10, 2015, 07:26:56 PM
I was wondering what is the best sounding remastered version? So far I know the 1996 remaster by Bob Ludwig, to me it sounds a bit too compressed compared to the original. But there is also a XRCD and a Hybrid SACD. Did anyone compare these to the sound of the vinyl editions? And what is the longest running time of Brothers In Arms?
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: vgonis on February 10, 2015, 07:31:35 PM
It is a matter of taste really. Many prefer the original (not remastered) versions. Some like the 20th anniversary SACD remaster. (Not the 1996)  The CD version is longer that the vinyl, but I don't think that there is a difference in time amongst CDs.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: Justme on February 10, 2015, 07:59:44 PM
Thanks for your input. I'll give the 20th anniversary SACD remaster a spin soon. By the way, the 1996 Bl remastered version of BIA lasts 7:04. Most of the time I fight the fade out by turning the volume up to eleven!  :wave
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: rudiger on February 10, 2015, 08:14:53 PM
Only John Bennett who is focused on collecting BiA must have more! 
Some of the most interesting versions are the Yugoslavian vinyl with slightly different lyrics printed for MFN. The Korean that for some peculiar reason leaves out RATR and puts WW first on Side B. There is also an extra rare test pressing from Poland with the songs at their full CD versions (don't have it).

Here is the rest

(http://s4.postimg.org/jdk85f0u5/BIA_20.jpg)

There is at least another dozen of versions in my wanted list

........Which reminds me of another picture disc the SOS single from Poland.

On CD? This?

(http://s8.postimg.org/3y7idxzph/IMG_4255.jpg)

Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: Stanko on February 10, 2015, 08:19:27 PM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_Straits
If you look closer in the article above you will find that, officially, DS first time live performing BIA song was in Split, Croatia on their 85-86 tour!
sorry but I am so proud of that. :-) I was to young and I was not fan back than but now it is a pleasure to have know of that!
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: rudiger on February 10, 2015, 08:20:31 PM
I was wondering what is the best sounding remastered version? So far I know the 1996 remaster by Bob Ludwig, to me it sounds a bit too compressed compared to the original. But there is also a XRCD and a Hybrid SACD. Did anyone compare these to the sound of the vinyl editions? And what is the longest running time of Brothers In Arms?

Many prefer the DVD-Audio.

This too has received positive reviews

(http://www.mofi.com/v/vspfiles/photos/UDSACD2099-2.jpg)

http://www.mofi.com/product_p/udsacd2099.htm
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: vgonis on February 10, 2015, 08:29:45 PM
Blown away  rudiger! Fantastic collection indeed! Any big differences amongst them ? Artwork ? And which is the best sounding to you?

I was referring to a previous discussion about vinyl picture discs. This one to be exact:
http://www.discogs.com/Dire-Straits-Sultans-Of-Swing/release/2502527
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: Stanko on February 10, 2015, 08:30:54 PM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_Straits
If you look closer in the article above you will find that, officially, DS first time live performing BIA song was in Split, Croatia on their 85-86 tour!
sorry but I am so proud of that. :-) I was to young and I was not fan back than but now it is a pleasure to have know of that!
https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=myxz8fkytX4&lc=xFIHZ12c1BmRvNwnHCuCntkvq-1LrMqXVUVVgB1ccKg
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: rudiger on February 10, 2015, 08:39:53 PM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_Straits
If you look closer in the article above you will find that, officially, DS first time live performing BIA song was in Split, Croatia on their 85-86 tour!
sorry but I am so proud of that. :-) I was to young and I was not fan back than but now it is a pleasure to have know of that!
https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?v=myxz8fkytX4&lc=xFIHZ12c1BmRvNwnHCuCntkvq-1LrMqXVUVVgB1ccKg

Not to mention that during the BIA Tour only in Split has been played Six Blade Knife. And what a nice version!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezq7hLvbWNY
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: Knopflerfan on February 10, 2015, 09:10:57 PM
I'll bet Mark's quietly pleased about this.  He'll go into a room on his own and jump up and down!  ;)

He'll celebrate by ending every show on the Tracker tour with So Far Away.

Oh no Pleeeeasssseee no!!!!!
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: Stanko on February 10, 2015, 09:16:39 PM
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dire_Straits
If you look closer in the article above you will find that, officially, DS first time live performing BIA song was in Split, Croatia on their 85-86 tour!
sorry but I am so proud of that. :-) I was to young and I was not fan back than but now it is a pleasure to have know of that!
https://www.youtube.com/all_comments?
v=myxz8fkytX4&lc=xFIHZ12c1BmRvNwnHCuCntkvq-1LrMqXVUVVgB1ccKg

Thank you. Nice to know.

Not to mention that during the BIA Tour only in Split has been played Six Blade Knife. And what a nice version!

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ezq7hLvbWNY
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: Stanko on February 10, 2015, 09:23:31 PM
But no dates this time anywhere in ex Yu on folowing  tour :-(
I'll have to go in Austria or Italy for instead...
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: rudiger on February 10, 2015, 11:42:17 PM
......which is the best sounding to you?

I'm not an audiophile nor I have an equipment that allows me to catch the nuances. In general I don't sympathize with the remasters due to the excessive compression which reduces the dynamic range. But, as you said, It's a matter of taste
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: sweetsurrender on February 11, 2015, 05:54:46 AM
I'll bet Mark's quietly pleased about this.  He'll go into a room on his own and jump up and down!  ;)

He'll celebrate by ending every show on the Tracker tour with So Far Away.

Oh no Pleeeeasssseee no!!!!!

I second that ! No more SFA !!!!

Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: crimmer on February 11, 2015, 09:11:38 AM
I 3rd that,  NO "so far away and Romeo and juilet please!!      my two worst songs in the setlist from the last tour
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: jbaent on February 11, 2015, 12:50:13 PM
I have it in cassette, vinyl, cd, sacd, dvd-audio and 180 gr vinyl, so it makes 6 versions of BIA.

The dvd-audio mix is great, everytime I play it in my dvd I truly enjoy the wonderful 5.1 remix made by Chuck Ainlay, which is supposed to be the same of the sacd, but as long as I dont have a sacd player I can
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: vgonis on February 11, 2015, 04:22:20 PM
Its been quite a while since my  audio system was hi-fi. Now it is more of wi-if. (willing if in the mood)  But my faithful DVD player and a set of headphones do the trick. However, I will not comment on the audio fidelity, because the songs are somehow imprinted in my brain, and the audio signal acts more as a memory stimulant, than a source of information to be analyzed by my brain. As such I find that the vinyl edition with the sorter versions of 4 songs (WoL, RATR, TMTS, OW, BiA being the same on vinyl and CD as well) is more solid. The extra minutes in the songs (SFA, MFN, YLT, WW)  don't add much to it. As a matter of fact they make the songs a bit tiring, since they are only repetition. (with the possible exception of YLT intro). MFN is even better in its even shorter edit from MFN compilation and even the BiA edit on the same disk has its merits-but I still prefer the longest version. Of course when I found out in 1990 that the CD version had extended  versions, I jumped train, but still, I find the shorter versions tighter and solid.  The new reissued in double vinyl, actually have the longer CD versions.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: Justme on February 11, 2015, 07:07:47 PM
Oh well, I don't have a SACD-Player, too. Maybe I'm going to try the double LP. Interesting discussion regarding the track lengths, to me it all depends on my mood, when it's all about diving into the music the longer version do the trick for me.
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: jbaent on February 11, 2015, 08:34:10 PM
The long outro of Why Worry is beautiful, with a great bass line, probably Neil Jason or Tony Levin...
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: rosco on February 14, 2015, 08:43:04 PM
"The eighth biggest seller of all-time in the UK, it sold 8,890 copies last week to lift its career tally to a massive 4,415,777"
-  As of the 8th Feb 2015
Title: Re: Brothers in Arms
Post by: sweetsurrender on February 15, 2015, 05:12:21 AM
I got this special gold plated album last Christmas. It's hanging on the wall in my office waiting for MK to sign it  ;)
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Post by: dmg on February 17, 2015, 12:38:50 PM
Ooh, nice SweetSurrender!  Tr