A Mark In Time
Previous Tours => 2019 Down The Road Wherever EU & NA tour => Topic started by: allen on September 11, 2019, 10:38:00 AM
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DTRW TOUR 2019 [C 85] USA/Canada leg 28
(https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6793.0;attach=3590)
VENUE & LATEST TICKET INFO
Location:- https://www.lagreektheatre.com/
Buy Tickets:- https://www1.ticketmaster.com/event/0900555301DBAC37
Clock @ Weather: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/usa/los-angeles
DIARIES
Guy Fletcher D.T.R.W. tour Diary: http://guyfletcher.co.uk/2019-u-s-tour-diary
Richard Bennett Notes from the Road: https://www.richard-bennett.com/notes-from-the-road
A.M.I.T. HUB
Who’s going where?: https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=6400.0
Tickets : sale / exchange / wanted: https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?board=48.0
Pre-concert meetings: https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?board=49.0
PREVIOUS/NEXT MARK KNOPFLER Concert
Previous concert:- https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=7204.0
Next Concert:- https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=6923.0
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29 songs were played on the 2015 tour
22 songs yet played on this tour
SET LIST
01. Why Aye Man
02. Corned Beef City
03. Sailing to Philadelphia
04. Once Upon A Time In The West
05. Romeo and Juliet
06. My Bacon Roll
07. Matchstick Man
08. Done With Bonaparte
09. Heart Full of Holes
10. She's Gone
11. Your Latest Trick
12. Postcards from Paraguay
13. On Every Street
14. Speedway at Nazareth
15. Money For Nothing
16. Going Home
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amazing show last night... no Brother in Arms, and a couple of friends at the show asked why he doesn't play Sultans of Swing and I didn't have an answer. Anyone?
This is my second time seeing MK on this tour. Had 1st row at the Beacon in NYC, which is a very different experience than being in the last row of a giant outdoor arena.
A non-DS fan next to me was stunned that the music sounded so good... he was like "this sounds like being the studio!" :clap
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There must be a typo in the date of this thread, it says 22 of september, which is on two days, unless this is a travel in time issue...
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There must be a typo in the date of this thread, it says 22 of september, which is on two days, unless this is a travel in time issue...
I suspect two Greeks caused some confusion! I'm sure jasoncalacanis attended the Berkeley Greek! :)
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There must be a typo in the date of this thread, it says 22 of september, which is on two days, unless this is a travel in time issue...
I suspect two Greeks caused some confusion! I'm sure jasoncalacanis attended the Berkeley Greek! :)
I just noticed that myself as well, thanks Val!
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amazing show last night... no Brother in Arms, and a couple of friends at the show asked why he doesn't play Sultans of Swing and I didn't have an answer. Anyone?
This is my second time seeing MK on this tour. Had 1st row at the Beacon in NYC, which is a very different experience than being in the last row of a giant outdoor arena.
A non-DS fan next to me was stunned that the music sounded so good... he was like "this sounds like being the studio!" :clap
He felt he could not bring it up to a decent standard during rehearsals, and decided to skip it. Wise thinking.
Telegraph was dropped early, maybe too demanding, you can see on the clips avaialable that he shakes the hands several times.
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aRxMX2epC1U
I really think MK is looking healthier and less old now. Also I notice that since Verona or so, he's stopped saying "talks" and reverted to "talk" as in "can't do the talk like the talk on TV" in R&J. :)
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Usual set I suppose? Not any warm-up alternative song for MSG ?
Any soundcheck clue ?
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I really think MK is looking healthier and less old now. Also I notice that since Verona or so, he's stopped saying "talks" and reverted to "talk" as in "can't do the talk like the talk on TV" in R&J. :)
I was thinking the very same. He seems to have lost weight and is moving a lot more too. Touring is obviously good for him. Compare this Mark to the very stiff and immobile one in Barcelona and there is a Marked difference! His whole energy levels have gone up and his vocals have benefitted too. The shows at the moment are great and the tour has just ended bar one. :'(
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Yes I agree, remember at Barcelona and was shocked and sad of his physical condition, but looking much better now
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Yeah I agree as well, I mean this Money For Nothing is also rocking ;D
https://youtu.be/bRBH_r9_N3M (https://youtu.be/bRBH_r9_N3M)
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Yes I agree, remember at Barcelona and was shocked and sad of his physical condition, but looking much better now
I'll bet you the reason for the new shirt is that it is a couple of sizes smaller. ;D
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I'm happy for Mark that he both looks and sounds better now. As you've mentioned, seeing him at the beginning of the tour was quite a shock. I'm very surprised, though, that it took almost the entire tour before he got in shape. I hope he/they have learned a lesson for the future, that they need to start preparations way earlier. This past year was very busy for him, with the album, Local Hero, tour planning, and so on. Maybe time to do less at his age?
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I'm happy for Mark that he both looks and sounds better now. As you've mentioned, seeing him at the beginning of the tour was quite a shock. I'm very surprised, though, that it took almost the entire tour before he got in shape. I hope he/they have learned a lesson for the future, that they need to start preparations way earlier. This past year was very busy for him, with the album, Local Hero, tour planning, and so on. Maybe time to do less at his age?
He won't learn; Tracker tour was just the same. A bit less obvious due to his age perhaps but still the same. Also in 2013...
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I'm happy for Mark that he both looks and sounds better now. As you've mentioned, seeing him at the beginning of the tour was quite a shock. I'm very surprised, though, that it took almost the entire tour before he got in shape. I hope he/they have learned a lesson for the future, that they need to start preparations way earlier. This past year was very busy for him, with the album, Local Hero, tour planning, and so on. Maybe time to do less at his age?
He won't learn; Tracker tour was just the same. A bit less obvious due to his age perhaps but still the same. Also in 2013...
For a guy who doesn't have to have a tight schedule, this is just odd. Two to three months earlier, he should get on a diet, get in good physical shape, sit down with the guitar three hours a day to loosen up those digits. It's not like he's going to play three nights at a pub with Steve Philips; we're talking world tour, costly, first-rate production, expensive tickets, high expectations and more. I don't get it. Does he over-estimate himself? Doesn't he care?
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For a guy who doesn't have to have a tight schedule, this is just odd. Two to three months earlier, he should get on a diet, get in good physical shape, sit down with the guitar three hours a day to loosen up those digits. It's not like he's going to play three nights at a pub with Steve Philips; we're talking world tour, costly, first-rate production, expensive tickets, high expectations and more. I don't get it. Does he over-estimate himself? Doesn't he care?
He certainly knows, he just doesn’t care and keeps spreading the word he doesn’t want to be a guitar hero anymore, people still buy tickets and he has no manager who would turn this into a discussion.
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I'm happy for Mark that he both looks and sounds better now. As you've mentioned, seeing him at the beginning of the tour was quite a shock. I'm very surprised, though, that it took almost the entire tour before he got in shape. I hope he/they have learned a lesson for the future, that they need to start preparations way earlier. This past year was very busy for him, with the album, Local Hero, tour planning, and so on. Maybe time to do less at his age?
He won't learn; Tracker tour was just the same. A bit less obvious due to his age perhaps but still the same. Also in 2013...
For a guy who doesn't have to have a tight schedule, this is just odd. Two to three months earlier, he should get on a diet, get in good physical shape, sit down with the guitar three hours a day to loosen up those digits. It's not like he's going to play three nights at a pub with Steve Philips; we're talking world tour, costly, first-rate production, expensive tickets, high expectations and more. I don't get it. Does he over-estimate himself? Doesn't he care?
He's just lazy, as he himself admits. He says he doesn't practice as he should any more.
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I'm happy for Mark that he both looks and sounds better now. As you've mentioned, seeing him at the beginning of the tour was quite a shock. I'm very surprised, though, that it took almost the entire tour before he got in shape. I hope he/they have learned a lesson for the future, that they need to start preparations way earlier. This past year was very busy for him, with the album, Local Hero, tour planning, and so on. Maybe time to do less at his age?
He won't learn; Tracker tour was just the same. A bit less obvious due to his age perhaps but still the same. Also in 2013...
For a guy who doesn't have to have a tight schedule, this is just odd. Two to three months earlier, he should get on a diet, get in good physical shape, sit down with the guitar three hours a day to loosen up those digits. It's not like he's going to play three nights at a pub with Steve Philips; we're talking world tour, costly, first-rate production, expensive tickets, high expectations and more. I don't get it. Does he over-estimate himself? Doesn't he care?
He didn't seem a well man at the end of 2018 and, by his appearance at that time, he seemed to be on some kind of medication. If a person isn't well it's very difficult to keep fit - catch 22! Thankfully he looks and moves much better now!
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I'm happy for Mark that he both looks and sounds better now. As you've mentioned, seeing him at the beginning of the tour was quite a shock. I'm very surprised, though, that it took almost the entire tour before he got in shape. I hope he/they have learned a lesson for the future, that they need to start preparations way earlier. This past year was very busy for him, with the album, Local Hero, tour planning, and so on. Maybe time to do less at his age?
He won't learn; Tracker tour was just the same. A bit less obvious due to his age perhaps but still the same. Also in 2013...
For a guy who doesn't have to have a tight schedule, this is just odd. Two to three months earlier, he should get on a diet, get in good physical shape, sit down with the guitar three hours a day to loosen up those digits. It's not like he's going to play three nights at a pub with Steve Philips; we're talking world tour, costly, first-rate production, expensive tickets, high expectations and more. I don't get it. Does he over-estimate himself? Doesn't he care?
He didn't seem a well man at the end of 2018 and, by his appearance at that time, he seemed to be on some kind of medication. If a person isn't well it's very difficult to keep fit - catch 22! Thankfully he looks and moves much better now!
I find the tone of some of the criticism on here slightly disturbing. None of us know Marks state of health, what he eats, his weight, etc.
As for him stating he's lazy - a self deprecating manner is a well known character trait of the British psyche. I'm pretty sure that you could find lots of people who would praise Marks work ethic. His comments have always been a way of deflecting attention. and having run my own recording studio for numerous years I can tell you that real laziness will get you nowhere in that environment.
Given that we don't know the intimate ins and outs of Marks life perhaps as reasonable human beings we should be giving the benefit of the doubt, rather than becoming little Rudigers....
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I'm happy for Mark that he both looks and sounds better now. As you've mentioned, seeing him at the beginning of the tour was quite a shock. I'm very surprised, though, that it took almost the entire tour before he got in shape. I hope he/they have learned a lesson for the future, that they need to start preparations way earlier. This past year was very busy for him, with the album, Local Hero, tour planning, and so on. Maybe time to do less at his age?
He won't learn; Tracker tour was just the same. A bit less obvious due to his age perhaps but still the same. Also in 2013...
For a guy who doesn't have to have a tight schedule, this is just odd. Two to three months earlier, he should get on a diet, get in good physical shape, sit down with the guitar three hours a day to loosen up those digits. It's not like he's going to play three nights at a pub with Steve Philips; we're talking world tour, costly, first-rate production, expensive tickets, high expectations and more. I don't get it. Does he over-estimate himself? Doesn't he care?
He didn't seem a well man at the end of 2018 and, by his appearance at that time, he seemed to be on some kind of medication. If a person isn't well it's very difficult to keep fit - catch 22! Thankfully he looks and moves much better now!
I find the tone of some of the criticism on here slightly disturbing. None of us know Marks state of health, what he eats, his weight, etc.
As for him stating he's lazy - a self deprecating manner is a well known character trait of the British psyche. I'm pretty sure that you could find lots of people who would praise Marks work ethic. His comments have always been a way of deflecting attention. and having run my own recording studio for numerous years I can tell you that real laziness will get you nowhere in that environment.
Given that we don't know the intimate ins and outs of Marks life perhaps as reasonable human beings we should be giving the benefit of the doubt, rather than becoming little Rudigers....
Totally agree! :thumbsup We have discussed this very recently at length.
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I, for one, don't mean it as criticism, but the whole thing perplexes me, and I believe we are free to ask questions here? My point is that Mark is fully aware that he's no longer 40, 50 or even 60, so you'd think he'd take that into consideration before embarking on a costly world tour. Especially since he is such quality-conscious person. However, if there were health issues, of which we know nothing about, that is a different story. And kudos to him for keeping on, despite a somewhat sluggish start, and ending on a high note (no pun intended). These last few shows he has definitely shown that he still got it, which bodes well for the future then. Hopefully, he'll stay healthy and maybe reduce his schedule a little.
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I, for one, don't mean it as criticism, but the whole thing perplexes me, and I believe we are free to ask questions here? My point is that Mark is fully aware that he's no longer 40, 50 or even 60, so you'd think he'd take that into consideration before embarking on a costly world tour. Especially since he is such quality-conscious person. However, if there were health issues, of which we know nothing about, that is a different story. And kudos to him for keeping on, despite a somewhat sluggish start, and ending on a high note (no pun intended). These last few shows he has definitely shown that he still got it, which bodes well for the future then. Hopefully, he'll stay healthy and maybe reduce his schedule a little.
Mark could use one of his old motorcycles as an analogy: it may take longer to kick-start into life than the newer models and even once it does get going it isn't as rapid, however once up and running you soon realise they don't make them the way they used to!
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I'm happy for Mark that he both looks and sounds better now. As you've mentioned, seeing him at the beginning of the tour was quite a shock. I'm very surprised, though, that it took almost the entire tour before he got in shape. I hope he/they have learned a lesson for the future, that they need to start preparations way earlier. This past year was very busy for him, with the album, Local Hero, tour planning, and so on. Maybe time to do less at his age?
He won't learn; Tracker tour was just the same. A bit less obvious due to his age perhaps but still the same. Also in 2013...
For a guy who doesn't have to have a tight schedule, this is just odd. Two to three months earlier, he should get on a diet, get in good physical shape, sit down with the guitar three hours a day to loosen up those digits. It's not like he's going to play three nights at a pub with Steve Philips; we're talking world tour, costly, first-rate production, expensive tickets, high expectations and more. I don't get it. Does he over-estimate himself? Doesn't he care?
He didn't seem a well man at the end of 2018 and, by his appearance at that time, he seemed to be on some kind of medication. If a person isn't well it's very difficult to keep fit - catch 22! Thankfully he looks and moves much better now!
I find the tone of some of the criticism on here slightly disturbing. None of us know Marks state of health, what he eats, his weight, etc.
As for him stating he's lazy - a self deprecating manner is a well known character trait of the British psyche. I'm pretty sure that you could find lots of people who would praise Marks work ethic. His comments have always been a way of deflecting attention. and having run my own recording studio for numerous years I can tell you that real laziness will get you nowhere in that environment.
Given that we don't know the intimate ins and outs of Marks life perhaps as reasonable human beings we should be giving the benefit of the doubt, rather than becoming little Rudigers....
It depends how you take it...
From my point of view, we are not judging, but giving our impressions on what we see/hear. We don't say he's sick and having medication, we say he might be sick (or not) and having medication (or not) as a possible explanation on the physical condition that he shows nowadays, different from the past.
We are just talking, not judging.
If we can only talk about facts, we can close the door, as we won't have many things to talk about.
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It depends how you take it...
From my point of view, we are not judging, but giving our impressions on what we see/hear. We don't say he's sick and having medication, we say he might be sick (or not) and having medication (or not) as a possible explanation on the physical condition that he shows nowadays, different from the past.
We are just talking, not judging.
If we can only talk about facts, we can close the door, as we won't have many things to talk about.
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Personally I feel rather uncomfortable discussing such things if it's mere speculation.
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If we can't speculate, then we can't assume his health is any worse than before, either. We can't speculate on why he drops TR, or why he doesn't play Sultans backwards, we can only state the facts and ask questions.
It seems alot easier to speculate when the speculation is in Marks favor rather than not. Like, we can speculate in bad health (which would be a valid excuse for certain choices that most of us don't like), but speculations on him being lazy or not caring enough is all of a sudden "something else". I think we should treat Mark as a human being, and not some God who cannot make mistakes (apart from greenies).
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If we can't speculate, then we can't assume his health is any worse than before, either. We can't speculate on why he drops TR, or why he doesn't play Sultans backwards, we can only state the facts and ask questions.
It seems alot easier to speculate when the speculation is in Marks favor rather than not. Like, we can speculate in bad health (which would be a valid excuse for certain choices that most of us don't like), but speculations on him being lazy or not caring enough is all of a sudden "something else". I think we should treat Mark as a human being, and not some God who cannot make mistakes (apart from greenies).
:thumbsup :clap
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If we can't speculate, then we can't assume his health is any worse than before, either. We can't speculate on why he drops TR, or why he doesn't play Sultans backwards, we can only state the facts and ask questions.
It seems alot easier to speculate when the speculation is in Marks favor rather than not. Like, we can speculate in bad health (which would be a valid excuse for certain choices that most of us don't like), but speculations on him being lazy or not caring enough is all of a sudden "something else". I think we should treat Mark as a human being, and not some God who cannot make mistakes (apart from greenies).
:thumbsup :clap
We can comment on/discuss to our hearts content on what we see and hear. That's great.
Once you start speculating on someone's health, state of mind, that's difficult territory and I think if we do tread there then we should do so very lightly with carefully chosen language, and ultimately respect. Perhaps it's me, or perhaps it's a language barrier issue but sometimes it seems that this is lacking.
Put yourself in the position of stumbling across a discussion about yourself and ask how you would react to a bunch of strangers questioning your motives in such a way....
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If we can't speculate, then we can't assume his health is any worse than before, either. We can't speculate on why he drops TR, or why he doesn't play Sultans backwards, we can only state the facts and ask questions.
It seems alot easier to speculate when the speculation is in Marks favor rather than not. Like, we can speculate in bad health (which would be a valid excuse for certain choices that most of us don't like), but speculations on him being lazy or not caring enough is all of a sudden "something else". I think we should treat Mark as a human being, and not some God who cannot make mistakes (apart from greenies).
:thumbsup :clap
We can comment on/discuss to our hearts content on what we see and hear. That's great.
Once you start speculating on someone's health, state of mind, that's difficult territory and I think if we do tread there then we should do so very lightly with carefully chosen language, and ultimately respect. Perhaps it's me, or perhaps it's a language barrier issue but sometimes it seems that this is lacking.
Put yourself in the position of stumbling across a discussion about yourself and ask how you would react to a bunch of strangers questioning your motives in such a way....
To me it's clearly a language barrier. In Spanish we don't have that "thin sensibility" and normal talking is clear when you are just having an opinion guessing, and when you are talking about true facts. And that's the way we talk in other languages too, we try to adapt, but that's what we do naturally without all that issues... if you know what I mean. We go straight, we don't walk in circles ;D :lol
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If we can't speculate, then we can't assume his health is any worse than before, either. We can't speculate on why he drops TR, or why he doesn't play Sultans backwards, we can only state the facts and ask questions.
It seems alot easier to speculate when the speculation is in Marks favor rather than not. Like, we can speculate in bad health (which would be a valid excuse for certain choices that most of us don't like), but speculations on him being lazy or not caring enough is all of a sudden "something else". I think we should treat Mark as a human being, and not some God who cannot make mistakes (apart from greenies).
:thumbsup :clap
We can comment on/discuss to our hearts content on what we see and hear. That's great.
Once you start speculating on someone's health, state of mind, that's difficult territory and I think if we do tread there then we should do so very lightly with carefully chosen language, and ultimately respect. Perhaps it's me, or perhaps it's a language barrier issue but sometimes it seems that this is lacking.
Put yourself in the position of stumbling across a discussion about yourself and ask how you would react to a bunch of strangers questioning your motives in such a way....
To me it's clearly a language barrier. In Spanish we don't have that "thin sensibility" and normal talking is clear when you are just having an opinion guessing, and when you are talking about true facts. And that's the way we talk in other languages too, we try to adapt, but that's what we do naturally without all that issues... if you know what I mean. We go straight, we don't walk in circles ;D :lol
But Jbaent, wold you think it fair if I were to speculate on why in my opinion your recent posts on amit have not been up to your old standard ;) and then speculate that you may be too old to type, to lazy to construct meaningful dialogue, or to fat to sit at the computer! ;D
Sorry, just made myself laugh.
Serious point though...
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But Jbaent, wold you think it fair if I were to speculate on why in my opinion your recent posts on amit have not been up to your old standard ;) and then speculate that you may be too old to type, to lazy to construct meaningful dialogue, or to fat to sit at the computer! ;D
Sorry, just made myself laugh.
Serious point though...
If you were a fan of my posts and there are clear signs than my posts are even more stupid that usually are, I consider that is fair as you are worrying about me, as a fan ;)
If you say directly that instead of speculating, that's close to insult, as far as you don't know the facts and you can asseverate about it.
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But Jbaent, wold you think it fair if I were to speculate on why in my opinion your recent posts on amit have not been up to your old standard ;) and then speculate that you may be too old to type, to lazy to construct meaningful dialogue, or to fat to sit at the computer! ;D
Sorry, just made myself laugh.
Serious point though...
If you were a fan of my posts and there are clear signs than my posts are even more stupid that usually are, I consider that is fair as you are worrying about me, as a fan ;)
If you say directly that instead of speculating, that's close to insult, as far as you don't know the facts and you can asseverate about it.
I'm definitely worried about your use of smiley faces ;)
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But Jbaent, wold you think it fair if I were to speculate on why in my opinion your recent posts on amit have not been up to your old standard ;) and then speculate that you may be too old to type, to lazy to construct meaningful dialogue, or to fat to sit at the computer! ;D
Sorry, just made myself laugh.
Serious point though...
If you were a fan of my posts and there are clear signs than my posts are even more stupid that usually are, I consider that is fair as you are worrying about me, as a fan ;)
If you say directly that instead of speculating, that's close to insult, as far as you don't know the facts and you can asseverate about it.
I'm definitely worried about your use of smiley faces ;)
Don't be worried :-*
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Just listening to Why Aye Man from this gig and laughing very very hard.
He sings after in the first verse: 'Had to leave on the ferry boat'. - > 'Pleeeaaase tuurn the fucking light off.'
Then: 'Economic refugees, on the run to thank you'. You can hear someone laughing through it, to me it sounds like DC.
Don't know why but I find this quite hilarious in retrospect ;D
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Just listening to Why Aye Man from this gig and laughing very very hard.
He sings after in the first verse: 'Had to leave on the ferry boat'. - > 'Pleeeaaase tuurn the fucking light off.'
Then: 'Economic refugees, on the run to thank you'. You can hear someone laughing through it, to me it sounds like DC.
Don't know why but I find this quite hilarious in retrospect ;D
And there are more examples :lol
Krakow: "Drills and hammers, please turn it off"
Gothenburg: On the run to Germany (turn that off please)
We had the back of Maggies hand (will you turn that off please.. Thank you! Times were tough in Geordie-land!