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Title: MK's neighbor
Post by: knopfling on April 08, 2011, 01:14:21 AM
This interested me in that I didn't know John lived close to MK.
http://www.bournemouthecho.co.uk/news/8960305.Tycoon_s_plan_for_luxury_Beaulieu_mansion_splits_community/#
Tycoon's plan for luxury Beaulieu mansion splits community
5:00pm Thursday 7th April 2011
By Echo Reporter
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: ds1984 on April 08, 2011, 11:10:12 AM
If my info are correct John owns (or owned) shares in The Master Builder's hotel in Beaulieu.

I slept there in 2002 (guess why  ;D ), costly but very nice. Good restaurant
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: schmonka on April 08, 2011, 11:38:51 AM
Perhaps this reporter uses the same reporters "sources" that apparently claim Dire Straits are very much still together and playing.....or is that "The Straits"...... ;D
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 08, 2011, 12:41:11 PM
Found this when I was being nosey and digging around on the house story. :)

http://www.express.co.uk/features/view/4850
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 08, 2011, 12:42:11 PM
And again

http://www.dailyecho.co.uk/news/2308013.knopflers_driving_ambition/
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Jackal on April 08, 2011, 04:38:43 PM
Apparently, Mark lives somewhere in this area:


http://maps.google.com/maps?hl=en&rlz=1R2ADSA_noPL416&q=througham%20place%20beaulieu&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&wrapid=tlif130227250445810&um=1&biw=1659&bih=932&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=il

Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: koobaa on April 08, 2011, 05:22:50 PM
It's almost scary what sort of private information you can find online, even if it's not made available directly. That Newforest government link gives you almost exact address. Not very wise IMO.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Love Expresso on April 08, 2011, 06:39:17 PM
Yes, Kooba, that was exactly my feeling. I feel uncomfortable with having these "delicate" or "sensible" information made available in our forum.
What do you think of erase that link? Of course freedom of speech and all that stuff bla bla, but hey, it is somehow a very thin line isn't it..
We are urged to only use "nicks at all times" and not use real names of members on here, but putting a private address online is something that is much more alarming. Or am I too pedantic here?

Just my opinion..  ::)

LE
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Jackal on April 08, 2011, 06:52:48 PM
Yes, Kooba, that was exactly my feeling. I feel uncomfortable with having these "delicate" or "sensible" information made available in our forum.
What do you think of erase that link? Of course freedom of speech and all that stuff bla bla, but hey, it is somehow a very thin line isn't it..
We are urged to only use "nicks at all times" and not use real names of members on here, but putting a private address online is something that is much more alarming. Or am I too pedantic here?

Just my opinion..  ::)

LE

LE, I think kooba meant that it was not very wise of the Newforest government people to make that document public, not that the link was published here. Plus it was already mentioned in the article in the first post that the area in question was Thorns Beach.

If the editors on AMIT feel it is inappropriate, however, they may of course delete the link and information.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: koobaa on April 08, 2011, 07:10:44 PM
Yes, I meant the fact that you can easily access the document with address from the official government site. Making this info even more public on the fan forum is the other thing. As Jackal says, let's see what AMIT editors think.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 08, 2011, 07:12:32 PM
Posting MK's home address on here is not a good idea IMO, even if it's freely available online. As a courtesy to our hero I think it should be removed. I'm posting this from my mobile though and can't edit easily.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Jackal on April 08, 2011, 07:15:00 PM
OK, bad move by me.

From the forum guidelines:

Discretion/Respect
Although it is A.M.I.T.'s aim to be more accepting and tolerant of "controversial" topics than other MK forums, we ask that you use discretion when posting a message. This forum is read by many Mark Knopfler/Dire Straits/Notting Hillbillies fans from around the world daily, so what you say will be seen and read by many people. Please keep it civil, and always respect Mark and his band members, family and his associates. All discussions that are deemed by the Administrators/Moderators, to venture too far into Mark or his band members' personal/family matters will be considered inappropriate and promptly removed from the A.M.I.T. forum. The Administrators/Moderators also reserve the right to remove any posts which may in any way, be considered defamatory, and or cannot be substantiated.


I will delete the link and address myself. I apologize.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Love Expresso on April 08, 2011, 07:18:53 PM
Well said, Dusty - "as a courtesy to our hero" is exactly what I meant...

@kooba and @jackal,
no offence meant by my question of course. As you said, the news has been released a long time ago and therefore of course nobody from the forum has made
any mistake or fault. But Dusty put it in the right words. I was just a little bit "uneasy" to dig so deep into MK's privacy.

LE
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: ds1984 on April 09, 2011, 01:50:38 PM
I was thinking about that this morning. Natural curiosity tend me (us?) to be interested about where he lives but not that far to get the exact address and not into pilgrimage scheme either.
Like at the time it was publicly known that he had a house in Chelsea area - well that was all I knew about and it was enough for me.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: JeroenvG on April 09, 2011, 07:12:29 PM
Mark has got a great house.
But what's the use to know the exact address? I think most of you all know where he lives. I don't think I can go blind to that spot but I do know the place.

Like Dusty said another time: If you know how the UK government works, you all can find the place. But then again, if you keep searching you can find all addresses from known people.

You are a real "Rudiger" if you found his phonenumber  ;D

Oh and the funny thing is that it looks like John's house is bigger then Mark's.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: knopflerized on April 09, 2011, 08:53:51 PM
I only know that he lives around Chelsea...
I'm not intersted in knowing more... It's his privacy...
(btw if he wanna know where I live and visit me for tea, cake and guitar jam, just pm Mark  ;D)
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: ds1984 on April 09, 2011, 09:18:57 PM
I only know that he lives around Chelsea...
I'm not intersted in knowing more... It's his privacy...
(btw if he wanna know where I live and visit me for tea, cake and guitar jam, just pm Mark  ;D)

He may even have a good bottle of red vine if he invites you to stay for the supper...
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: knopflerized on April 09, 2011, 09:25:46 PM

He may even have a good bottle of red vine if he invites you to stay for the supper...
...I think you meant I could even have a good bottle of wine and invite him for supper... 
Yes I COULD, YES I WOULD
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Jackal on April 10, 2011, 04:03:19 PM
I only know that he lives around Chelsea...

Lived in Chelsea. Not anymore.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: knopflerized on April 10, 2011, 04:07:49 PM
okay  I didn't know LOL :D
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: jbaent on April 10, 2011, 04:15:45 PM
It looks like he stills lives in Chelsea, but moved from one street to another, a friend of mine that was staying in the area when the RAH shows was having a walk and he saw all the cars and vans that MK had at the RAH the day before, in a street of the Chelsea area, loading stuff. and he saw the MK
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Jackal on April 10, 2011, 04:44:03 PM
I don't know where he lives permanently, but I would guess that he for practical purposes keeps a house or an apartment in London. Hasn't Guy said that he too has an apartment in London also? Don't remember.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: dmg on April 10, 2011, 04:52:09 PM
He could buy a sleeping bag and kip down on the floor of British Grove!
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: jbaent on April 10, 2011, 05:07:24 PM
I don't know where he lives permanently, but I would guess that he for practical purposes keeps a house or an apartment in London. Hasn't Guy said that he too has an apartment in London also? Don't remember.

Its not only him but his wife and two daughters. I just recall an interview from the GL promo that he mentioned he uses to walk in the morning with some of his neighbours and grumbling about things while walking in the streets...

Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: qjamesfloyd on April 11, 2011, 02:55:38 PM
According to Google Maps, I live only 15 miles from Mark, I've yet to see him walking around the New Forest yet though.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 11, 2011, 05:48:20 PM
Knopfling - you mis-spelled "neighbour". ;)

Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Rollergirl on April 11, 2011, 07:01:10 PM
Knopfling - you mis-spelled "neighbour". ;)



 ;D  I was just thinking that  ;D
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: knopfling on April 11, 2011, 07:02:21 PM
Ha ha ha.
No, I didn't.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: BirdStrike on April 11, 2011, 10:43:29 PM
He could buy a sleeping bag and kip down on the floor of British Grove!

dmg i will go with you  :lol
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 12, 2011, 11:44:32 AM
Ha ha ha.
No, I didn't.

Off to listen to one of my favourite albums, Fleetwood Mac's RUMOURS. ;)
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Waterline Man on April 12, 2011, 11:03:14 PM
Ha ha ha.
No, I didn't.

Off to listen to one of my favourite albums, Fleetwood Mac's RUMOURS. ;)

Am I missing something???????? :o :o
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Jackal on April 12, 2011, 11:25:25 PM
Ha ha ha.
No, I didn't.

Off to listen to one of my favourite albums, Fleetwood Mac's RUMOURS. ;)

Am I missing something???????? :o :o

Just a little running joke about US English spelling vs British English spelling (-or vs -our). Other than that, I heard that Lennon was killed.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Waterline Man on April 13, 2011, 12:18:32 AM
Ha ha ha.
No, I didn't.

Off to listen to one of my favourite albums, Fleetwood Mac's RUMOURS. ;)

Am I missing something???????? :o :o

Just a little running joke about US English spelling vs British English spelling (-or vs -our). Other than that, I heard that Lennon was killed.

What about the Irish version ::) ::)Yeah,tough one on Lennon,heard he's the second one of the Stones to snuff it ::) ::) ;)
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Jackal on April 13, 2011, 07:58:08 AM
Ha ha ha.
No, I didn't.

Off to listen to one of my favourite albums, Fleetwood Mac's RUMOURS. ;)

Am I missing something???????? :o :o

Just a little running joke about US English spelling vs British English spelling (-or vs -our). Other than that, I heard that Lennon was killed.

What about the Irish version ::) ::)Yeah,tough one on Lennon,heard he's the second one of the Stones to snuff it ::) ::) ;)

Dunno about Irish spelling, but in terms of pronunciation, it is like Scottish except the Scots roll their *arse*  :o
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: dmg on April 13, 2011, 11:42:26 AM
Ha ha ha.
No, I didn't.

Off to listen to one of my favourite albums, Fleetwood Mac's RUMOURS. ;)

Am I missing something???????? :o :o

Just a little running joke about US English spelling vs British English spelling (-or vs -our). Other than that, I heard that Lennon was killed.
May I be so bould as to suggest that you drop the "British" from "British English" as English is English but American English is a variation on it.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: vgonis on April 13, 2011, 05:35:23 PM
Slow it down a bit, i am only familiar with Grenglish. And yes Rumours  is a fine piece of recorded music. It still makes my day, eventhough i kind of overheard it back in the nineties and it is hard to feel the same chills i was feeling. Do you have the same trouble with the records you love?
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 13, 2011, 05:58:08 PM
Slow it down a bit, i am only familiar with Grenglish. And yes Rumours  is a fine piece of recorded music. It still makes my day, eventhough i kind of overheard it back in the nineties and it is hard to feel the same chills i was feeling. Do you have the same trouble with the records you love?

I find I can stop listening for a year or whatever and then still enjoy it when I hear it again. But yes, nothing like finding a piece of music you love and overplaying it. :)
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Jackal on April 13, 2011, 09:04:53 PM
Slow it down a bit, i am only familiar with Grenglish. And yes Rumours  is a fine piece of recorded music. It still makes my day, eventhough i kind of overheard it back in the nineties and it is hard to feel the same chills i was feeling. Do you have the same trouble with the records you love?

Absolutely. Especially in the day when the Discman ruled and you had to listen to only one album. I carried a Discman and a soft case with CDs everywhere. I guess that's one of the good things with mp3 players that you can load it up with tons of good music and never hear the same song twice for a long time.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Waterline Man on April 14, 2011, 01:14:09 PM
Slow it down a bit, i am only familiar with Grenglish. And yes Rumours  is a fine piece of recorded music. It still makes my day, eventhough i kind of overheard it back in the nineties and it is hard to feel the same chills i was feeling. Do you have the same trouble with the records you love?

I remember having BIA,Rumours,Reckless,New Light Through Old Windows,Dancing with strangers on tape in my walkman,I must have been Duracells best customer for a few years - thank God for ipods :o
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Jackal on April 14, 2011, 02:23:34 PM
@Waterline Man - yeah, the tape days. Good times. I still have my Luxman hifi tape deck to which I would record tapes from CDs with Dolby C noise reduction technology  :o and compile best-of tapes. Would then put the Walkman in my belt, jump on my bicycle and ride around the city in the hot afternoon sun. Those were the days, man.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: superval99 on April 14, 2011, 02:54:32 PM
Slow it down a bit, i am only familiar with Grenglish. And yes Rumours  is a fine piece of recorded music. It still makes my day, eventhough i kind of overheard it back in the nineties and it is hard to feel the same chills i was feeling. Do you have the same trouble with the records you love?

Absolutely. Especially in the day when the Discman ruled and you had to listen to only one album. I carried a Discman and a soft case with CDs everywhere. I guess that's one of the good things with mp3 players that you can load it up with tons of good music and never hear the same song twice for a long time.

It's amazing how quickly things move on!   I bought my husband a Discman for his 60th birthday in 2001 and within a few months it was obsolete!    We went on holiday to Greece with the Discman and what seemed like a small overnight case filled with discs.  Now all we need is an MP3 player containing thousands of songs, which can be played randomly.   The great thing is, you never know which little gem will crop up next - anything from Knopfler to Khachaturian!   ;D    What will be next after MP3s and iPods do you think?   :)
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 14, 2011, 03:26:35 PM
Wax cylinder comeback.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Jackal on April 14, 2011, 03:47:12 PM
I heard this portable turntable from Audio Technica is gaining ground among retrophiles, the amazing Sound Burger:

(http://liarsradio.files.wordpress.com/2010/05/soundburger1.jpg)
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 14, 2011, 04:30:47 PM
Had to Google that to see if it was real.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Jackal on April 14, 2011, 05:14:44 PM
It's real all right. I remember it was a prize in a Donald Duck magazine back in the early 80s. Thought it was the coolest thing. Even cooler than the digital watches with a calculator!
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 14, 2011, 05:57:31 PM
Can I just take a second to point out that this freedom for threads to go off in wild and crazy directions is one of the things that makes AMIT great.

Wasn't allowed in other places...
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: superval99 on April 14, 2011, 06:13:48 PM
Yeahhhhh!    AMIT is the greatest!     :D     Sometimes threads are a bit like the children's party game, "Chinese Whispers" -  they start out as one thing and end up as something completely different!    ;D
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Jackal on April 14, 2011, 06:39:38 PM
Hehe. It's fun, but kind of frustrating when you click page 1 of a thread, then skip to page 16, and you go "uh ... hang on a sec ..."
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: superval99 on April 14, 2011, 07:25:39 PM
Can I just take a second to point out that this freedom for threads to go off in wild and crazy directions is one of the things that makes AMIT great.

Wasn't allowed in other places...

I remember when we were on the "other" forum, at one time, we were restricted to only 6 posts a day each, so couldn't enter into any long conversations! :o    Those were the days!  LOL  ;D
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Jackal on April 14, 2011, 07:37:27 PM
I remember when we were on the "other" forum, at one time, we were restricted to only 6 posts a day, so couldn't enter into any long conversations! :o  

Rules laid down by a person whose appetite for power clearly isn't satisfied elsewhere. Go figure. The word "meaningless" springs to mind.
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Love Expresso on April 14, 2011, 07:40:44 PM
What I really like about this place here is that the idea is really WORKING! I am around AMIT for two years in June and can't remember one single fight, argument or really tough or rude writings from anybody (apart from Dusty, but that's a special case...  ;) ) I mean, almost all the people from MKNews
emigrated into this fine place and prove that it is possible to meet and talk and post without too strong restrictions! I sometimes use other forums of course, workwise, not MK related ones, and always wonder how it comes that the level of behaviour is so high in this one and is not at others. Some german ones are really tough to read, whereas at AMIT almost everyone really is trying to write in a proper way... And say something intelligent, more or less....  :lol

LE
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: superval99 on April 14, 2011, 07:46:03 PM
........and we can use as many smileys as we like!    ;D  ;D   :lol    :lol
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Waterline Man on April 14, 2011, 07:54:36 PM
@Waterline Man - yeah, the tape days. Good times. I still have my Luxman hifi tape deck to which I would record tapes from CDs with Dolby C noise reduction technology  :o and compile best-of tapes. Would then put the Walkman in my belt, jump on my bicycle and ride around the city in the hot afternoon sun. Those were the days, man.

I remember a friend at school gave me loan of his Big Counrty "Steeltown" tape to copy it so I got 2 tape recorders & played it on one while recording it on the other in my bedroom - everyone was told to stay out of the room for about an hour while the recording was going on. I dont know what happened to the tape but Big Country still rock,RIP Stuart Adamson - the best thing to come out of Scotland since Kenny Dalglish :o :o
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: boboDS on April 14, 2011, 10:08:44 PM
and can't remember one single fight

LE


Yeah me neither, except for Dusty's love for Phil Collins  ;D  ;D
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 14, 2011, 10:43:39 PM
There was of course one infamous disruption around the time of the Get Lucky release. That incident caused all of the Editors major, major anguish but looking back now at the way the forum has flourished I'm certain we made the right decision in the end, even if it went against our natural instincts.

I guess MK just generally attracts a better class of person. :)
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: jbaent on April 15, 2011, 12:37:21 PM
Wasnt that when the Get Lucky tour, when discussing about video recordings that someone from here decided to adopt and alias and write at the Guy
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 15, 2011, 01:48:21 PM
Wasnt that when the Get Lucky tour, when discussing about video recordings that someone from here decided to adopt and alias and write at the Guy
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: tunnel85 on April 15, 2011, 02:19:28 PM
John Wilcox ... not easy to forget about that one.
I hope next year he'll have something to complaint about on Guy's forum.  ;)

Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: boboDS on April 15, 2011, 06:51:37 PM
The whaatt? I probably wasn't around then, could somebody get into more detail about this John Wilcox and his actions?
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Banjo99uk on April 15, 2011, 07:39:04 PM
I thought the same then did a search for his name on guys forum and I remember it all now. He was telling guy tales of members of this forum discussing taping of concerts and guy got quite annoyed about it. Who is John Wilcox anyway?
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Jackal on April 15, 2011, 08:04:00 PM
Just use the search function in Guy's forum and you'll find that this John Wilcox is a very irritating one as such.

(Speaking of searching, you've probably noticed that the search functionality on Guy's site is very limited and of course limited to the forum only. If you have a Google account, you can create a custom search engine where you can specify certain websites or pages. Ever tried to find some obscure detail in the tour diary? From some show somewhere at some point? Use the custom search engine at http://www.google.com/cse/.)
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 15, 2011, 09:10:42 PM
Who is John Wilcox anyway?

I am 100% certain who "he" is but I can't prove it. However if you read the posts over at Guy's forum it is entirely obvious.

Never the less, it is ancient history, so let's move on. :)
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: jbaent on April 15, 2011, 09:35:33 PM
Yes, to say "he" is not very "accurate", however, here I
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: boboDS on April 16, 2011, 09:09:01 PM
Now I am even more curious about who this person is!!

I now read some of "that" post of his and some other ones on Guy's forum.

He (or "she") said in one of them that his threads over at MKNews forum had been deleted, so he (she) left.

Whoever that might be...?
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: jbaent on April 17, 2011, 01:57:24 AM
"He" never wrote here actually, but his real personaly did it, and thats the person that is "missing" as well here  ;D

Dusty, all the clues still point at the same direction  ;)

Nevermind, thats the past, as long as this person doesnt bother us anymore, we
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Fieneke2 on April 25, 2011, 09:07:13 PM
Can I just take a second to point out that this freedom for threads to go off in wild and crazy directions is one of the things that makes AMIT great.
Wasn't allowed in other places...

I remember when we were on the "other" forum, at one time, we were restricted to only 6 posts a day each, so couldn't enter into any long conversations! :o    Those were the days!  LOL  ;D

Haha Val, yeaaahhhh I remember! Often I responded to some of the messages and wrote in Word stupid or crazy messages (which takes time because of the translation) and then when I copied to the forum and pushed the add or post button............I was told that I wasn't allowed to post because of the limit! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/w00t.gif) It drove me crazy now and then, also that I only was allowed to use 3 smilies!!! Well lucky I can post here as often and as much as I want! LOL

Fieneke
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Fieneke2 on April 25, 2011, 09:23:32 PM
I only know that he lives around Chelsea...
I'm not intersted in knowing more... It's his privacy...
(btw if he wanna know where I live and visit me for tea, cake and guitar jam, just pm Mark  ;D)

I am honest and would like to know in what kind of house he lives and of course I would like to know something about his privacy, BUT ....I understand and respect his choice to keep his privacy private, I would try to do the same if I would be famous!  ;D


Did you already get a PM of Mister Knopfler?.....If he is coming to visit you, then a chaperone might be needed! I am always busy but I will force myself this time to sit behind the couch or hide between the curtains and will be listening to what you both are talking about and to see what is going to happen! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Grinsmiley.gif)

Don
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: superval99 on April 25, 2011, 09:33:56 PM
Hi Fieneke!   It's great to read your posts again!    I am already laughing my head off!  Lol!    :lol     :lol      ;D
Title: Re: MK's neighbor
Post by: Fieneke2 on April 25, 2011, 09:56:49 PM

Dear Val, it is great to be back again with all of you!(http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/3511504d6836511af49a93488fbc3c4a1c3.gif)

I have missed the forums, but now my study ended, I hope to get more time to read this forum and that of Guy and write messages again! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Celebrate-s.gif) .......At least when I succeed, otherwise it will take a few weeks before I will have spare time again!

Btw there are soooo many messages to read, you all have been very busy! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Grinning.gif)

Fieneke