Post by: Nick14 on March 19, 2024, 08:34:38 AM
https://www.gratefulweb.com/articles/mark-knopflers-one-deep-river-review
Post by: Dutchessy on March 19, 2024, 03:40:02 PM
Post by: Robson on March 19, 2024, 03:55:26 PM
MARK KNOPFLER
One Deep River
BRITISH GROVE
8/10
Heartfelt songs from the
Northumberland veteran
During “Watch Me
Gone”, a highlight
from his atmospheric
new album, Mark
Knopfler indulges in
a couple of rock’n’roll
fantasies: “Maybe I’ll hit the road with
Bob/Or maybe I’ll hitch a ride with Van”,
he sings in his signature pre-coffee
grumble, as warm and weathered as
ever. While the veteran songwriter and
guitarist has indeed shared stages with
both legends, his tentative, bittersweet
tone signals the inspiration for this
diverse batch of songs, dreamed up
during Covid lockdown. Characterised
by a laid-back, full-band sound, this
heartfelt music exudes the warm thrill
of catching up and looking back among
old friends. SAM SODOMSKY
Post by: Nick14 on March 19, 2024, 04:32:35 PM
Post by: Love Expresso on March 20, 2024, 11:52:36 AM
Not able to translate at the moment. But
-the guitar on Tunnel 13 reminds the author of Brothers in Arms but with more western vibe
-Janine beautiful melodic Country Rock
-Title track is called country Spiritual.
LE
Post by: Love Expresso on March 20, 2024, 11:59:18 AM
The author quotes a line from This Ones Not Going To End Well : " they whip up old lies to ride into power, and history comes back from hell." and relates it to Trump, fashism, fake news.
And a line from the Tunnel 13 lyrics:
Tunnel 13 is the place in the song, where the beautiful redwood for my guitar came from." Not sure if this is really from the lyrics. The author says it comes from the "lyrics" but somehow it sounds strange to me and might be from the liner notes.
LE
Post by: Robson on March 20, 2024, 01:13:59 PM
Post by: Rail King on March 22, 2024, 02:02:33 PM
Post by: Dutchessy on March 22, 2024, 02:13:58 PM
Someone mentioned a Mojo review. Any link to that?
picture in the opening post
Post by: Rail King on March 22, 2024, 02:30:24 PM
Someone mentioned a Mojo review. Any link to that?
picture in the opening post
Thanks! Stupid me. :smack
Post by: stratmad on March 25, 2024, 02:43:52 PM
Interview touches a lot of political themes
The author quotes a line from This Ones Not Going To End Well : " they whip up old lies to ride into power, and history comes back from hell." and relates it to Trump, fashism, fake news.
And a line from the Tunnel 13 lyrics:
Tunnel 13 is the place in the song, where the beautiful redwood for my guitar came from." Not sure if this is really from the lyrics. The author says it comes from the "lyrics" but somehow it sounds strange to me and might be from the liner notes.
LE
Teaser from Classic Rock Magazin (https://classicrock.net/aktuelle-ausgabe-das-erwartet-euch-im-neuen-classic-rock-magazine-22/):
"Titelstory: Mark Knopfler im Interview über sein neues Album ONE DEEP RIVER und den Fluss des Lebens
Der bedächtige Brite – in einem früheren Leben Rocksuperstar bei den Dire Straits – packt aus!
Im großen Titelinterview verrät Knopfler, wo er politisch steht, was er in seiner Freizeit treibt, wieso er sich für keinen überragenden Gitarristen hält und wie er damit fertigwird, dass er bald 75 ist. Um die teils autobiografische neue Platte ONE DEEP RIVER geht’s freilich auch. Dazu kommen demnächst eine EP über die kriminelle Unterwelt und eine weltrekordverdächtige Charity-Single mit mehr als 60 Rockikonen auf einem einzigen Song."
"Title story: MK interviewed about his new album ODR and the river of life. The pensive Brit - who, in a former life, was a rock superstar with DS - reveals it all! In the title interview Knopfler explains where he stands politically, what he does in his spare time, why he doesn't think he's a great guitarist and how he copes with the prospect of turning 75 soon. Of course, there's also his partly autobiographical new record ODR to talk about. On top of that there will shortly be an EP about the criminal underworld and a charity single with more than 60 rock icons in one single song that has every chance to become a chart-topper."
Now, that sounds interesting! I'm off to the newsagents...
Post by: rmarques821 on March 25, 2024, 03:02:56 PM
Sounds great! Any possibility of a translation or reading this online? I can speak and understand German to a certain level but it's probably not good enough to read this interview.Interview touches a lot of political themes
The author quotes a line from This Ones Not Going To End Well : " they whip up old lies to ride into power, and history comes back from hell." and relates it to Trump, fashism, fake news.
And a line from the Tunnel 13 lyrics:
Tunnel 13 is the place in the song, where the beautiful redwood for my guitar came from." Not sure if this is really from the lyrics. The author says it comes from the "lyrics" but somehow it sounds strange to me and might be from the liner notes.
LE
Teaser from Classic Rock Magazin (https://classicrock.net/aktuelle-ausgabe-das-erwartet-euch-im-neuen-classic-rock-magazine-22/):
"Titelstory: Mark Knopfler im Interview über sein neues Album ONE DEEP RIVER und den Fluss des Lebens
Der bedächtige Brite – in einem früheren Leben Rocksuperstar bei den Dire Straits – packt aus!
Im großen Titelinterview verrät Knopfler, wo er politisch steht, was er in seiner Freizeit treibt, wieso er sich für keinen überragenden Gitarristen hält und wie er damit fertigwird, dass er bald 75 ist. Um die teils autobiografische neue Platte ONE DEEP RIVER geht’s freilich auch. Dazu kommen demnächst eine EP über die kriminelle Unterwelt und eine weltrekordverdächtige Charity-Single mit mehr als 60 Rockikonen auf einem einzigen Song."
"Title story: MK interviewed about his new album ODR and the river of life. The pensive Brit - who, in a former life, was a rock superstar with DS - reveals it all! In the title interview Knopfler explains where he stands politically, what he does in his spare time, why he doesn't think he's a great guitarist and how he copes with the prospect of turning 75 soon. Of course, there's also his partly autobiographical new record ODR to talk about. On top of that there will shortly be an EP about the criminal underworld and a charity single with more than 60 rock icons in one single song that has every chance to become a chart-topper."
Now, that sounds interesting! I'm off to the newsagents...
Post by: stratmad on March 25, 2024, 03:07:25 PM
Come to think of it... I'd be translating a text into English that is a translation from English in the first place. Decidedly weird behaviour, but I'm a fan and I'll do it anyway ;-)
Post by: Robson on March 25, 2024, 03:44:04 PM
I can translate it. I just need to get hold of the original - hope it's in the shops already.
Come to think of it... I'd be translating a text into English that is a translation from English in the first place. Decidedly weird behaviour, but I'm a fan and I'll do it anyway ;-)
It would be fantastic. I'm waiting for more details. On Wednesday I will know a little more about the new album :)
Post by: shortfin on March 25, 2024, 04:17:24 PM
Rated 75/100
Translation:
Encouraged by his soundtracks, the former leader of the Dire Straits is increasingly immersed in his passions between folk, blues and a tradition closer to American than British. The new album confirms this, with a dozen medium-slow, sometimes indolent ballads. There are a couple of exceptions it is true (Scavenger Yard, the dragging Before my Train comes) but mostly Mark's low voice caresses us over a delicate atmosphere built by a backing band led by old friend Guy Fletcher, who moves with elegant lightness. Plus, lap steel, fiddle, accordion, bagpipes and a couple of female vocals. And no fewer than nine bonus tracks in the box set that combines the CD and vinyl versions.
Post by: stratmad on March 25, 2024, 04:19:43 PM
Post by: Robson on March 25, 2024, 05:07:03 PM
from the GF forum:
Fred:
"I’ve had the privilege of previewing the album, and it’s fantastic!
A beautiful musical atmosphere, emotion, a magnificent voice and magnificent guitar parts.
Well done for the work, it’s in my Top 2 (after STP).
I’m just a little disappointed that these beautiful songs never got a live version…
Post by: superval99 on March 25, 2024, 05:22:07 PM
More and more people have already heard the album
from the GF forum:
Fred:
"I’ve had the privilege of previewing the album, and it’s fantastic!
A beautiful musical atmosphere, emotion, a magnificent voice and magnificent guitar parts.
Well done for the work, it’s in my Top 2 (after STP).
I’m just a little disappointed that these beautiful songs never got a live version…
I just looked at Guy's Forum, but didn't see Fred's post, only one from a few days ago. :hmm
Post by: Robson on March 25, 2024, 05:40:02 PM
More and more people have already heard the album
from the GF forum:
Fred:
"I’ve had the privilege of previewing the album, and it’s fantastic!
A beautiful musical atmosphere, emotion, a magnificent voice and magnificent guitar parts.
Well done for the work, it’s in my Top 2 (after STP).
I’m just a little disappointed that these beautiful songs never got a live version…
I just looked at Guy's Forum, but didn't see Fred's post, only one from a few days ago. :hmm
The post is from today.
Post by: superval99 on March 25, 2024, 05:43:43 PM
More and more people have already heard the album
from the GF forum:
Fred:
"I’ve had the privilege of previewing the album, and it’s fantastic!
A beautiful musical atmosphere, emotion, a magnificent voice and magnificent guitar parts.
Well done for the work, it’s in my Top 2 (after STP).
I’m just a little disappointed that these beautiful songs never got a live version…
I just looked at Guy's Forum, but didn't see Fred's post, only one from a few days ago. :hmm
The post is from today.
Strange. I don't have any posts since March 20th on GF forum.
PS: Problem solved! I cleared my cache and everything sprang to life! :smack
Post by: stratmad on March 25, 2024, 06:33:55 PM
Post by: TommyJ88 on March 26, 2024, 03:56:29 AM
I look forward to a proper translation—I read an auto-translate version and thought it was one of the best, most interesting interviews Mark has given in a long time. Really good stuff.
It’s certainly worth reading if you’ve ever wondered if Mark does Pilates (he does), or if he believes in the afterlife (he does not). :lol
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Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 26, 2024, 06:32:44 AM
I don’t speak German, but I was able to get hold of the article from Classic Rock magazine, so here it is. You can click on the images to download or see the pages in a higher resolution.
I look forward to a proper translation—I read an auto-translate version and thought it was one of the best, most interesting interviews Mark has given in a long time. Really good stuff.
It’s certainly worth reading if you’ve ever wondered if Mark does Pilates (he does), or if he believes in the afterlife (he does not). :lol
Thank you! Awesome way of linking too.
I got the gist of the interview (haven't pracitced my high school German in years). Lots of good questions, Mark is unusually open and frank.
Post by: jbaent on March 26, 2024, 07:31:53 AM
I don’t speak German, but I was able to get hold of the article from Classic Rock magazine, so here it is. You can click on the images to download or see the pages in a higher resolution.
I look forward to a proper translation—I read an auto-translate version and thought it was one of the best, most interesting interviews Mark has given in a long time. Really good stuff.
It’s certainly worth reading if you’ve ever wondered if Mark does Pilates (he does), or if he believes in the afterlife (he does not). :lol
Thank you! Awesome way of linking too.
I got the gist of the interview (haven't pracitced my high school German in years). Lots of good questions, Mark is unusually open and frank.
Such a long interview... I hope there is an English version of this magazine.
Post by: rmarques821 on March 26, 2024, 07:34:05 AM
Post by: Kris-b on March 26, 2024, 08:02:47 AM
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 26, 2024, 09:57:36 AM
Such a long interview... I hope there is an English version of this magazine.
There is, but it appears that the interviewer is German so I don't know if it will carry forward.
Post by: Darling Pretty on March 26, 2024, 11:48:38 AM
Totally forgot to buy it yesterday. Wanted to stop at a store and catch it.
Will read it tonight. Thanks again for posting
Post by: Rail King on March 26, 2024, 01:01:12 PM
Post by: Robson on March 26, 2024, 01:06:05 PM
Post by: Love Expresso on March 26, 2024, 01:18:09 PM
I have always doubts if he really has given all those answers. Everytime I read a German Interview, MK appears totally strange and completely different as in all the hundreds of videos I have watched with him over the years. Don't know why, maybe they translate it not correct enough. But that's just me.
LE
Post by: jbaent on March 26, 2024, 01:29:56 PM
I thought about it but no time at the moment, sorry. It us very much.
I have always doubts if he really has given all those answers. Everytime I read a German Interview, MK appears totally strange and completely different as in all the hundreds of videos I have watched with him over the years. Don't know why, maybe they translate it not correct enough. But that's just me.
LE
Yes, same happens to me when I read interviews in Spanish. Usually when I see the tv interviews and there are subtitles in Spanish I'm always thinking "errr, that's not what he said really", I guess MK always gices answers with a context in his mind that usually are common places for fans, but the interviewer doesn't know and goes for something literally or just out of context.
Post by: kaleo74 on March 26, 2024, 01:38:10 PM
I don’t speak German, but I was able to get hold of the article from Classic Rock magazine, so here it is. You can click on the images to download or see the pages in a higher resolution.
I look forward to a proper translation—I read an auto-translate version and thought it was one of the best, most interesting interviews Mark has given in a long time. Really good stuff.
It’s certainly worth reading if you’ve ever wondered if Mark does Pilates (he does), or if he believes in the afterlife (he does not). :lol
Thanks for sharing the magazine article!
With a little effort and using my iPhone (I don't know if it works on Android), I can select text on images and run them through the mill in DeepL, it's better than nothing.
The topics covered are very interesting, a must read!
Post by: jbaent on March 26, 2024, 01:52:51 PM
Post by: Rolo on March 26, 2024, 02:07:51 PM
His mind is sharper than ever.
Here and there he talks about politician in very soft way, on this interview, he gone a bit deeper.
A must read, that's for sure.
Intersting how he always escapes from the questions like 'You are one of the best guitar players ever' saying things like: - absolutely not!
Well, as discussed on this forum, he is right about the 'Life as a instrumentist' and all the things that the pro players have (multi style/genres proeficiency, technique, jazz...)
Guys like Scott Henderson, John Coltrane, Pat Metheny and many others devoted their lifes playing the instrument and their possibilities.
Mark always said tha he doesn't know about guitar knobs, pedals, amps... Everithing on 10, he says. LOL
But this is nonsense.
MK knows absolutely everething about gear and guitar behavior (pickups, pots, capacitors, cables...)
He owns a studio with gear selected by him. So...
In my opinion, from years ago, he has no interest in going deep about gear talk on an interview as he has MUCH more to say about life as a songwriter.
Music is a language.
MK holds a guitar like a plumber.
Well, a very ground breaking and comunicative plumber.
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 26, 2024, 04:36:54 PM
MK holds a guitar like a plumber.
Well, a very ground breaking and comunicative plumber.
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Post by: jbaent on March 26, 2024, 04:57:01 PM
Post by: Dutchessy on March 26, 2024, 05:07:35 PM
According to MK social media there is nee content in the bridge locks, but I can't find anything.
can't see it either
Post by: Dutchessy on March 26, 2024, 05:09:01 PM
Head back to the lock bridge to reveal a sneak preview of another track... Do they mean Watch me Gone?
Post by: quizzaciously on March 26, 2024, 05:50:06 PM
Mark always said tha he doesn't know about guitar knobs, pedals, amps... Everithing on 10, he says. LOL
But this is nonsense.
MK knows absolutely everething about gear and guitar behavior (pickups, pots, capacitors, cables...)
He owns a studio with gear selected by him. So...
In my opinion, from years ago, he has no interest in going deep about gear talk on an interview as he has MUCH more to say about life as a songwriter.
Not sure about that. The studio was built and is operated by several people who "know their stuff", not sure why Mark needs to know how it all works. In a podcast with two guys, he said he knows how one button on a console works. He showed a lot of interest towards the history of this equipment, but as far as I can tell, not its technical aspects.
When legendary jazz guitar player Joe Pass was asked technical questions about guitar electronics and all, I think he said something like I'm playing the guitar, not trying to disassemble it. Mark is a great entrepreneur, and instead of doing stuff himself, he can hire people who do it much better, like he hired Guy to work with all the shiny 80s toys.
Post by: Rolo on March 26, 2024, 06:33:05 PM
Not sure about that. The studio was built and is operated by several people who "know their stuff", not sure why Mark needs to know how it all works. In a podcast with two guys, he said he knows how one button on a console works. He showed a lot of interest towards the history of this equipment, but as far as I can tell, not its technical aspects.
When legendary jazz guitar player Joe Pass was asked technical questions about guitar electronics and all, I think he said something like I'm playing the guitar, not trying to disassemble it. Mark is a great entrepreneur, and instead of doing stuff himself, he can hire people who do it much better, like he hired Guy to work with all the shiny 80s toys.
Well, surely he doesn't know about the minimum details about the studio gear. He is not an engineer, but he knows a lot.
He has a well equiped home-studio and he knows more than how to turn the knobs.
Steve Phillips is one of his best friends, and he is also a master luthier.
We wouldn't ever see Mark polishing wood or operating CNC machines. However, he knows everething about the component's 'philosofy'.
He doesn't need to be 'hands-on' anymore. He have enought people with much more skills than he has.
Like he once said that, there are much more schooled/trained musicians doing hi-quality film scores. And they make it faster than ever. However, doesn't mean that he knows nothing about film scores. It's the opposite of that.
When he said that his guitar tone is a mess, that he sits in front of the amp and turns the knobs... it's true.
Guitar tone is personal, analogic and intuitive.
In my opinion, when Mark says that he is a plumber on everything less songwriting, based on the technical knowledge required by all professions, he is right.
However, he knows that he knows about stuff, he just choose to not invade others territory.
Post by: Love Expresso on March 26, 2024, 06:39:18 PM
-Last time back in 2018, the guitarist had shown how thrilling and versatile he can be (with DTRW), this time with his new album (apart form the perfect production) he failed to do so. He was not able to reach the same "caliber" with ODR.
-the opener, sounds cool, is called a "desert ride" (wtf?) which has its roots deep into J.J. Cales music, sounding laid-back and "rustic".
-a couple of times there are songs who are very country-like, swaying. "Smart Money" is called too laid-back and too easy-listening,
-The "quirky" Scanvengers Yard at least has some crying guitars. A harmless ballad, made into a nostalgic Waltz.
-Watch Me Gone at least has the little something.
-Only the gangster-epos Tunnel 13 gives an idea of the cinematic Dire Straits sound, that the storyteller used to be capable of in such a brilliant way in earlier times.
-Completely slowed down, but highly atmospheric, after some time finally the track "Sweeter Than The Rain" , an "outlaw-western" creates some goosebumps.
-the beautiful final title track cannot save the album.
A typical Knopfler record, which risks nothing, rests in itself and which is not enough for a Musician of his class.
Top-Track: Two Pairs Of Hands.
Well, ouch!
The importance (or unimportance) of reviews was discussed earlier, and I wonder how often these guys do listen to the records before they write it. How often do we all need to hear new MK albums to find all the gems and the beauty in it? Me, i know for sure that it takes several spins often to really be able to judge a new album.
But then again, this sounds exactly the way that I was expecting the new album to be some weeks ago: If I will get lucky, there will be two or three decent (or even good!) tracks that I find ok. I have long ago given up the idea to expect another real masterpiece of MK.
LE
Post by: Robson on March 26, 2024, 06:54:11 PM
Post by: kaleo74 on March 26, 2024, 07:57:36 PM
https://youtube.com/shorts/5JWJHKvSch0?si=9oQrqbXA_h9FY8-S
Post by: Dutchessy on March 26, 2024, 08:53:16 PM
Just when we thought there'd be no more extracts from the new album... Voilà!
https://youtube.com/shorts/5JWJHKvSch0?si=9oQrqbXA_h9FY8-S
See other thread, there will be new music tomorrow
Post by: KnopfleRick on March 26, 2024, 09:07:11 PM
Thanks, Tommy, for this interview! Best one in a long, long time. It's not that Mark wouldn't be capable of giving interesting answers. You just have to ask the right questions.
Yes, absolutely one of the best interviews with Mark in a long time.
Thanks, Tommy! :thumbsup
Post by: Rolo on March 26, 2024, 09:19:06 PM
-Last time back in 2018, the guitarist had shown how thrilling and versatile he can be (with DTRW), this time with his new album (apart form the perfect production) he failed to do so. He was not able to reach the same "caliber" with ODR
If the reviewer considers DTRW a great thrilling album and ODR his opposite. Well.... there is light at the end of the tunnel.
ODR seems to be GREAT!
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 26, 2024, 09:44:09 PM
-Last time back in 2018, the guitarist had shown how thrilling and versatile he can be (with DTRW), this time with his new album (apart form the perfect production) he failed to do so. He was not able to reach the same "caliber" with ODR
If the reviewer considers DTRW a great thrilling album and ODR his opposite. Well.... there is light at the end of the tunnel.
ODR seems to be GREAT!
At least with DTRW they tried to do something a little different. Some uptempo songs, different styles. ODR seems to be a fairly slow and low-key album.
Post by: Love Expresso on March 26, 2024, 09:48:45 PM
LE
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 26, 2024, 10:04:44 PM
Slow and low-key fits on one of my all-time-favourites, Oh Mercy by Bob Dylan. I don't fear its slowness. I fear some dullness to be honest.
LE
Sure, there is a place for slow and low-key, but I just feel so much of Mark's solo work has been like that. Like putting "Wherever I Go" on repeat for 74 minutes ...
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 27, 2024, 08:07:46 AM
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 27, 2024, 10:23:11 AM
But, I think Wherever I Go is a stunning song, everyone has different tastes, and that is a good thing.
What I said wasn't criticism of that song. It was just an example of the "slow and low-key" music Mark has been going for (a lot) in his solo career.
Post by: qjamesfloyd on March 27, 2024, 10:45:39 AM
But, I think Wherever I Go is a stunning song, everyone has different tastes, and that is a good thing.
What I said wasn't criticism of that song. It was just an example of the "slow and low-key" music Mark has been going for (a lot) in his solo career.
:thumbsup
Post by: Rail King on March 27, 2024, 01:59:44 PM
Slow and low-key fits on one of my all-time-favourites, Oh Mercy by Bob Dylan. I don't fear its slowness. I fear some dullness to be honest.
LE
Oh Mercy is one of my all-time favourites, too. As is Time out of Mind. Both mostly slow and low-key, none of them dull. And I have yet to hear a dull MK album - don't think this one is going to break the rule. Somehow Mark's albums, particularly the most recent ones, are like a big river: slow, but deep. I expect the new album title to be very fitting in that respect.
Post by: Dutchessy on March 27, 2024, 02:01:06 PM
German Classic Rock Magazine has a long Interview in its April issue. There is also a review, 8 from 10
Not able to translate at the moment. But
-the guitar on Tunnel 13 reminds the author of Brothers in Arms but with more western vibe
-Janine beautiful melodic Country Rock
-Title track is called country Spiritual.
LE
Do we have more on this? I know the interview is here also, but i didn't see this review?
Post by: Rail King on March 27, 2024, 02:03:45 PM
Post by: dmg on March 27, 2024, 02:44:48 PM
The "Rockenteurs" interview is great. If only Mark (and the rest of the world) would have discovered podcasts earlier! This format is SO much better than anything you'll ever get from radio or TV.
To me it seems we're going backwards. A podcast is even worse than a radio interview with a proper journalist. We have TV so I'd rather have visuals and a proper interview too. The Parkinson show in 2000 was by far the best thing he's ever done.
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 27, 2024, 03:40:35 PM
The "Rockenteurs" interview is great. If only Mark (and the rest of the world) would have discovered podcasts earlier! This format is SO much better than anything you'll ever get from radio or TV.
To me it seems we're going backwards. A podcast is even worse than a radio interview with a proper journalist. We have TV so I'd rather have visuals and a proper interview too. The Parkinson show in 2000 was by far the best thing he's ever done.
It was fine, nothing terribly exciting.
The thing with the Swedish racing car driver dude is the best I can think of right now, if we're not including Arena.
Post by: Rail King on March 27, 2024, 03:50:46 PM
The "Rockenteurs" interview is great. If only Mark (and the rest of the world) would have discovered podcasts earlier! This format is SO much better than anything you'll ever get from radio or TV.
To me it seems we're going backwards. A podcast is even worse than a radio interview with a proper journalist. We have TV so I'd rather have visuals and a proper interview too. The Parkinson show in 2000 was by far the best thing he's ever done.
It was fine, nothing terribly exciting.
The thing with the Swedish racing car driver dude is the best I can think of right now, if we're not including Arena.
Didn't you like the story about how he got the idea to Money for Nothing? ;D
But seriously, just the fact that they take over an hour. It just leaves room for a little bit more than usual. I'm grateful for that. And I'd love to see him in one of those podcasts that go on for three or four hours, checking off uncle Kingsley in the first minute.
Post by: stratmad on March 27, 2024, 03:55:01 PM
It’s certainly worth reading if you’ve ever wondered if Mark does Pilates (he does), or if he believes in the afterlife (he does not). :lolPilates? Our man still rides a motorcycle in the night, in the rain, in March! I'm a generation younger, and a keen rider, but I would never be able to do that. Maybe I should start doing pilates? :lol
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 27, 2024, 03:56:35 PM
The "Rockenteurs" interview is great. If only Mark (and the rest of the world) would have discovered podcasts earlier! This format is SO much better than anything you'll ever get from radio or TV.
To me it seems we're going backwards. A podcast is even worse than a radio interview with a proper journalist. We have TV so I'd rather have visuals and a proper interview too. The Parkinson show in 2000 was by far the best thing he's ever done.
It was fine, nothing terribly exciting.
The thing with the Swedish racing car driver dude is the best I can think of right now, if we're not including Arena.
Didn't you like the story about how he got the idea to Money for Nothing? ;D
I was really enjoying the interview, and when Mark (inevitably) moved on to that story, I was like 'no, no, no, no, noooo!' How can he think that people like those interviewers don't know that story? And he just has to tell the whole thing in detail. I think after so many years and interview, he really needs to concentrate to not go on autopilot. Here he slipped. Again ;D
Post by: Robson on March 27, 2024, 03:56:58 PM
A very insightful interview indeed. I've tried to sum up the main points for those who don't read German. I'm not sure if it's legal to actually translate the text, and it would feel strange, too, so I'll just write up the main points.
Farewell to the Fairground
At the beginning, the interviewer remarks that Mark is slower than ever, and that he has visibly aged. They talk about his health, the new songs and his plans for the future.
Mk explains that the new album took six years to make partly because of the pandemic: he got Covid 3 times, so he struggled playing the guitar and can still feel the effects of that [I'm not sure if he means the effects of covid or the effects of not being able to play].
They go on to talk about "Ahead of the game", which is about live music and being in a band: MK says these days a lot of musicians have to play cover music to survive. He says that in DS days, bands could play clubs and small venues to play their own music, but these days people only want to pay money for superstars, and they don't buy records anymore, so it's hard for young bands. He adds that he hopes to make some money through airplay, since he has quit touring.
Then there is a question about "Tunnel 13", a song about a train robbery: apparently, the redwood for MK's new Boswell guitars comes from the sleepers of that railway line. He explains how that made him think about how something positive and wonderful can actually come out of violence and crime.
About the album title: MK says it's up to the listener to say what it means.
Re touring: MK says that he misses the stage, but sees his physical limits and prefers spending time with his wife and make the best of the time that remains. He says that he has no intention of 'copping it' on some autobahn. [I wonder if he used the German word here]
Apparently, he feels too "rusty" to even play some gigs in London, and it would be just as much hassle as a whole tour. He explains that he simply doesn't want to tour because of his marriage and his health.
He compares touring to riding motorcycles, which he couldn't do today because it's painful in the neck and the wrists. He says he prefers sitting upright these days.
They talk about the guitar auction: MK explains that he sold them because he wasn't using them. [Basically what he said at Christie's]
They talk about the TCT charity single, and why he didn't use those 60 musicians for his album, while they were there: MK says it was a bit like a cavalry attack, he could hardly keep up, and so it didn't occur to him to ask them to do more. He is full of praise for Hank, Bruce, Bonamassa, EC and Jeff Beck.
Finally, asked about about his plans for the future, he says he wants to make a few more albums, instead of moving around on the fairground he's been on for so long.
(Source: Eclipsed Rock Magazin Nr. 259, April 2024)
Post by: rmarques821 on March 27, 2024, 04:38:17 PM
From stratmad:Thanks for sharing! So we will get "a few more albums". Nice that this one isn't the last
A very insightful interview indeed. I've tried to sum up the main points for those who don't read German. I'm not sure if it's legal to actually translate the text, and it would feel strange, too, so I'll just write up the main points.
Farewell to the Fairground
At the beginning, the interviewer remarks that Mark is slower than ever, and that he has visibly aged. They talk about his health, the new songs and his plans for the future.
Mk explains that the new album took six years to make partly because of the pandemic: he got Covid 3 times, so he struggled playing the guitar and can still feel the effects of that [I'm not sure if he means the effects of covid or the effects of not being able to play].
They go on to talk about "Ahead of the game", which is about live music and being in a band: MK says these days a lot of musicians have to play cover music to survive. He says that in DS days, bands could play clubs and small venues to play their own music, but these days people only want to pay money for superstars, and they don't buy records anymore, so it's hard for young bands. He adds that he hopes to make some money through airplay, since he has quit touring.
Then there is a question about "Tunnel 13", a song about a train robbery: apparently, the redwood for MK's new Boswell guitars comes from the sleepers of that railway line. He explains how that made him think about how something positive and wonderful can actually come out of violence and crime.
About the album title: MK says it's up to the listener to say what it means.
Re touring: MK says that he misses the stage, but sees his physical limits and prefers spending time with his wife and make the best of the time that remains. He says that he has no intention of 'copping it' on some autobahn. [I wonder if he used the German word here]
Apparently, he feels too "rusty" to even play some gigs in London, and it would be just as much hassle as a whole tour. He explains that he simply doesn't want to tour because of his marriage and his health.
He compares touring to riding motorcycles, which he couldn't do today because it's painful in the neck and the wrists. He says he prefers sitting upright these days.
They talk about the guitar auction: MK explains that he sold them because he wasn't using them. [Basically what he said at Christie's]
They talk about the TCT charity single, and why he didn't use those 60 musicians for his album, while they were there: MK says it was a bit like a cavalry attack, he could hardly keep up, and so it didn't occur to him to ask them to do more. He is full of praise for Hank, Bruce, Bonamassa, EC and Jeff Beck.
Finally, asked about about his plans for the future, he says he wants to make a few more albums, instead of moving around on the fairground he's been on for so long.
(Source: Eclipsed Rock Magazin Nr. 259, April 2024)
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 27, 2024, 05:20:40 PM
It’s certainly worth reading if you’ve ever wondered if Mark does Pilates (he does), or if he believes in the afterlife (he does not). :lolPilates? Our man still rides a motorcycle in the night, in the rain, in March! I'm a generation younger, and a keen rider, but I would never be able to do that. Maybe I should start doing pilates? :lol
According to the German interview that was kindly translated earlier today he no longer rides sadly.
Post by: stratmad on March 27, 2024, 05:49:45 PM
Perhaps he was riding his scooter, or maybe he was referring to specific bikes, such as the Vincent or the Ducati. Many of his bikes, at least the ones I saw in pictures, were pretty large and heavy ones, or scramblers/cafe racers, which aren't necessarily comfortable to sit on.
So, I hope he still rides - whatever kind of two-wheels it may be :-)
P.S.: Do we have an MK cars/motorbikes thread?
Post by: dmg on March 27, 2024, 05:59:52 PM
Post by: Darling Pretty on March 28, 2024, 11:27:39 PM
It seems more interesting
Post by: wakeywakey on March 29, 2024, 04:27:16 AM
No pictures but 8/10 is pretty pretty good.
Mark Knopfler
One Deep River
BRITISH GROVE/EMI
Straits mainman delivers one
of his best solo records.
To paraphrase Kenneth Tynan
on Eugene Ionesco, once you’ve
heard all of Mark Knopfler’s solo
albums, you’ve heard one of
them. There’s one or two
reflective world-weary ballads,
a couple of reflective worldweary toe tappers, and some
finely wrought reflective worldweary character studies that
are self-contained short stories.
Because the thing about
Knopfler’s solo albums – of
which this is the tenth, if you
don’t count soundtracks – is
that it doesn’t matter that
they’re all cut from the same
cloth, because it’s a brilliant
cloth, part Dylan, part folk, part
stadium melancholy.
One Deep River is one of
Knopfler’s best. These are
gorgeous songs, sung in a voice
that sounds like it’s lived a life
that’s full, and the character
songs – which Knopfler has
excelled at since Sultans Of
Swing – are as poignant as ever.
Roll on album number 11.
■■■■■■■■
David Quantick
Post by: Love Expresso on March 29, 2024, 09:28:54 AM
LE
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 29, 2024, 10:19:44 AM
Here is the review from Classic Rock May 24 edition.
No pictures but 8/10 is pretty pretty good.
Mark Knopfler
One Deep River
BRITISH GROVE/EMI
Straits mainman delivers one
of his best solo records.
To paraphrase Kenneth Tynan
on Eugene Ionesco, once you’ve
heard all of Mark Knopfler’s solo
albums, you’ve heard one of
them. There’s one or two
reflective world-weary ballads,
a couple of reflective worldweary toe tappers, and some
finely wrought reflective worldweary character studies that
are self-contained short stories.
Because the thing about
Knopfler’s solo albums – of
which this is the tenth, if you
don’t count soundtracks – is
that it doesn’t matter that
they’re all cut from the same
cloth, because it’s a brilliant
cloth, part Dylan, part folk, part
stadium melancholy.
One Deep River is one of
Knopfler’s best. These are
gorgeous songs, sung in a voice
that sounds like it’s lived a life
that’s full, and the character
songs – which Knopfler has
excelled at since Sultans Of
Swing – are as poignant as ever.
Roll on album number 11.
■■■■■■■■
David Quantick
Thank you. David Quantik is a great guy (his twitter is hilarious) but I had no idea he was an MK fan. He’s spot on regarding MK’s albums here.
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 29, 2024, 10:38:47 AM
Post by: quizzaciously on March 29, 2024, 11:13:39 AM
He's spot on in the sense that Mark is a quality-oriented artist and cares about his craft and has done so since the early days. No-one can say any of his solo albums are bad, because they simply aren't, objectively speaking. But looking back at his solo career, I do wonder why he wasn't more daring and willing to challenge himself. Step outside the box. It's been a variation on a theme, all the way. He's financially independent and has total artistic freedom, and yet it's almost the same album again and again, with minor twists and tweaks. I'm really curious about what it is that makes him stick so close to the well-known.
The same reason why he's choosing 'comfortable' interviewers who ask him about which relative inspired him to become a musician, or which colour was his first guitar, I guess. Comfort zone? Yes, absolutely. But maybe it's not a comfort zone at all, but rather an "If it works, don't touch it" paradigm. We don't know the truly experimental side of MK, and who knows — maybe it's bad, and we're happy NOT to know it.
Just like Mark answers the question of writing an autobiography without any confusion — if he does it, it will be bad. Because it's not the way he feels to express himself, and not something he's good at. So in this case, he has achieved a perfect equilibrium with himself, or how I like to put it, has reached peak Knopfler a long time ago, and will not ever change. And it's one hell of an accomplishment, I must say.
Post by: Robson on March 29, 2024, 11:30:00 AM
He's spot on in the sense that Mark is a quality-oriented artist and cares about his craft and has done so since the early days. No-one can say any of his solo albums are bad, because they simply aren't, objectively speaking. But looking back at his solo career, I do wonder why he wasn't more daring and willing to challenge himself. Step outside the box. It's been a variation on a theme, all the way. He's financially independent and has total artistic freedom, and yet it's almost the same album again and again, with minor twists and tweaks. I'm really curious about what it is that makes him stick so close to the well-known.
The same reason why he's choosing 'comfortable' interviewers who ask him about which relative inspired him to become a musician, or which colour was his first guitar, I guess. Comfort zone? Yes, absolutely. But maybe it's not a comfort zone at all, but rather an "If it works, don't touch it" paradigm. We don't know the truly experimental side of MK, and who knows — maybe it's bad, and we're happy NOT to know it.
Just like Mark answers the question of writing an autobiography without any confusion — if he does it, it will be bad. Because it's not the way he feels to express himself, and not something he's good at. So in this case, he has achieved a perfect equilibrium with himself, or how I like to put it, has reached peak Knopfler a long time ago, and will not ever change. And it's one hell of an accomplishment, I must say.
:thumbsup I know you don't like it :D
I agree. But I still remember that Danny Cummings said that Mark was brave on this album. What did he mean :think
Post by: dmg on March 29, 2024, 11:39:56 AM
Of course it doesn't really mean a jot unless it comes from a fan such as ourselves.
Post by: Rail King on March 29, 2024, 12:30:54 PM
He's spot on in the sense that Mark is a quality-oriented artist and cares about his craft and has done so since the early days. No-one can say any of his solo albums are bad, because they simply aren't, objectively speaking. But looking back at his solo career, I do wonder why he wasn't more daring and willing to challenge himself. Step outside the box. It's been a variation on a theme, all the way. He's financially independent and has total artistic freedom, and yet it's almost the same album again and again, with minor twists and tweaks. I'm really curious about what it is that makes him stick so close to the well-known.
I'm not sure I agree with "his albums are all the same". Yes, they do follow a similar formula - some shoe-tappers, some ballads, celtic stuff, bluesy stuff, a bit of country, the occasional rocker - but it's exactly that variety that I find astonishing. I don't know many artists that have such a broad palette. Compare that to, say, J.J. Cale (as much as I like him), and you'll know what I mean.
Now, because there's so much variety within each album, the songs from various album vary just as much. Put Don't You Get It (from Golden Heart) next to One More Matinée (from Sailing to Philadelphia) next to Quality Shoe (from the Ragpicker's Dream) next to 5.15 AM (from Shangri-La) next to The Fish and the Bird (from Kill to Get Crimson) next to Monteleone (from Get Lucky) next to Gator Blood (from Privateering) next to Silver Eagle (from Tracker) next to Heavy Up (from Down the Road Wherever) next to Watch Me Gone (from One Deep River), and you'll have 10 totally different songs.
Post by: stratmad on March 29, 2024, 02:00:13 PM
I just saw that the German Rolling Stone Magazine announces MK on the cover, so there is apparently a review in it. I had no chance to buy it but will try tomorrow. Maybe somebody else is able to have a look?
LE
https://www.rollingstone.de/rolling-stone-april-johnny-cash-inhalt-2710657/ (https://www.rollingstone.de/rolling-stone-april-johnny-cash-inhalt-2710657/)
Funny how gets more press coverage in Germany than in the UK. :hmm
Post by: stratmad on March 29, 2024, 02:19:09 PM
He's spot on in the sense that Mark is a quality-oriented artist and cares about his craft and has done so since the early days. No-one can say any of his solo albums are bad, because they simply aren't, objectively speaking. But looking back at his solo career, I do wonder why he wasn't more daring and willing to challenge himself. Step outside the box. It's been a variation on a theme, all the way. He's financially independent and has total artistic freedom, and yet it's almost the same album again and again, with minor twists and tweaks. I'm really curious about what it is that makes him stick so close to the well-known.
I'm not sure I agree with "his albums are all the same". Yes, they do follow a similar formula - some shoe-tappers, some ballads, celtic stuff, bluesy stuff, a bit of country, the occasional rocker - but it's exactly that variety that I find astonishing. I don't know many artists that have such a broad palette. Compare that to, say, J.J. Cale (as much as I like him), and you'll know what I mean.
Now, because there's so much variety within each album, the songs from various album vary just as much. Put Don't You Get It (from Golden Heart) next to One More Matinée (from Sailing to Philadelphia) next to Quality Shoe (from the Ragpicker's Dream) next to 5.15 AM (from Shangri-La) next to The Fish and the Bird (from Kill to Get Crimson) next to Monteleone (from Get Lucky) next to Gator Blood (from Privateering) next to Silver Eagle (from Tracker) next to Heavy Up (from Down the Road Wherever) next to Watch Me Gone (from One Deep River), and you'll have 10 totally different songs.
I totally agree with Railking! He's always had a very wide range of styles, but to me, the music has become much more refined and perfected over the years, to the point where you really have to put on a good pair of headphones to hear all the subtle nuances!
Re "Step outside the box" - I think it's maybe because he IS the box 🤣
I'm convinced that he could've played anything, any style if he had chosen to. I mean, he did a better version of Django on Metroland (took me a while to figure out that it wasn't Django himself, in fact), in various songs there's a better "Hotel California" riff, a better "Another brick in the wall" riff, and many more like that, and he said in an interview once that he liked "shredding it" with his son occasionally, so he could probably out-satriani them all 🤣
But instead he just chose to make his own music, and be true to himself, as Pavel said.
Post by: TommyJ88 on March 29, 2024, 09:08:13 PM
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Post by: Iron Hand on March 29, 2024, 09:48:08 PM
I thought about it but no time at the moment, sorry. It is very much.It's easy to mess up the "tone" of someone speaking if you aren't careful, for example if you miss the humour in a statement while translating.
I have always doubts if he really has given all those answers. Everytime I read a German Interview, MK appears totally strange and completely different as in all the hundreds of videos I have watched with him over the years. Don't know why, maybe they translate it not correct enough. But that's just me.
LE
So I bought the before mentioned German "Eclipsed" Magazine, it has an interview and an album review, which, from my point of view, is pretty bad. It gets 6 1/2 from 10 stars, but if you read it, you wouldn't expect more than maybe four. I try to sum up all important lines from it here for you:I would take their rating with a grain of salt, since they rarely go beyond 8/10 and e.g. the recent two Alan Parsons albums were similarly reviewed, both of which became big favourites of mine. Your point about having to hear an album several times is certainly relevant, and if you have to review dozens of records every month, it's probably hard to give an album that amount of necessary attention and consideration. That said, the singles so far, though they're alright, don't really suggest I'll like the album as much as I like DTRW. We'll see.
-Last time back in 2018, the guitarist had shown how thrilling and versatile he can be (with DTRW), this time with his new album (apart form the perfect production) he failed to do so. He was not able to reach the same "caliber" with ODR.
-the opener, sounds cool, is called a "desert ride" (wtf?) which has its roots deep into J.J. Cales music, sounding laid-back and "rustic".
-a couple of times there are songs who are very country-like, swaying. "Smart Money" is called too laid-back and too easy-listening,
-The "quirky" Scanvengers Yard at least has some crying guitars. A harmless ballad, made into a nostalgic Waltz.
-Watch Me Gone at least has the little something.
-Only the gangster-epos Tunnel 13 gives an idea of the cinematic Dire Straits sound, that the storyteller used to be capable of in such a brilliant way in earlier times.
-Completely slowed down, but highly atmospheric, after some time finally the track "Sweeter Than The Rain" , an "outlaw-western" creates some goosebumps.
-the beautiful final title track cannot save the album.
A typical Knopfler record, which risks nothing, rests in itself and which is not enough for a Musician of his class.
Top-Track: Two Pairs Of Hands.
Well, ouch!
The importance (or unimportance) of reviews was discussed earlier, and I wonder how often these guys do listen to the records before they write it. How often do we all need to hear new MK albums to find all the gems and the beauty in it? Me, i know for sure that it takes several spins often to really be able to judge a new album.
But then again, this sounds exactly the way that I was expecting the new album to be some weeks ago: If I will get lucky, there will be two or three decent (or even good!) tracks that I find ok. I have long ago given up the idea to expect another real masterpiece of MK.
LE
Maybe I'm wrong but I don't recall his albums ever being so highly received before, even as DS. Usually 3/5 was the norm.There seems to be, for want of a better word, a "hype" around this one, that even I'm drawn in despite not being too excited by the singles so far. :D
Of course it doesn't really mean a jot unless it comes from a fan such as ourselves.
Post by: jbaent on March 29, 2024, 09:49:04 PM
Post by: Love Expresso on March 29, 2024, 10:01:30 PM
Thank you very much!And this is from Rolling Stone in Germany:
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Very short first thoughts: the review states that the River strangely does not appear in any song on the album.
The title track is about a Musician that died, the review takes a guess with Jeff Beck. (In another review the journalist guessed it could be Jack Sonni.). The river is called a metaphor about life and it is suggested that the river might be MK himself.
Black Tie Jobs is about his time at the "Evening Chronicle" in Newcastle. There was one Black tie hanging in the coffice in case a journalist had to go and write about a funeral. (My initial thoughts the death of Jimi Hendrix?)
The author also wants to know who "Janine" is but gets no answer. He associates the song Janine with Knopflers studies about the Local Hero movie and the oil industry aspect. In the last part the journalist suddenly changes and obviously talks to Guy Fletcher ("who runs the British Grove Studios in London"). It seems he gave up in trying to.get clear answers from MK. Strange review.
LE
Post by: stratmad on March 29, 2024, 10:20:01 PM
Post by: stratmad on March 29, 2024, 10:23:21 PM
The French one is really great. MK states that he still loves to play the guitar, which is wonderful news!
Post by: Robson on March 30, 2024, 12:40:58 AM
Thank you very much!And this is from Rolling Stone in Germany:
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(https://i.ibb.co/Ptb7C1h/C043028-F-49-E1-4456-B07-E-98-E66-FBD455-E.jpg) (https://ibb.co/g6X5gtT)
Very short first thoughts: the review states that the River strangely does not appear in any song on the album.
The title track is about a Musician that died, the review takes a guess with Jeff Beck. (In another review the journalist guessed it could be Jack Sonni.). The river is called a metaphor about life and it is suggested that the river might be MK himself.
Black Tie Jobs is about his time at the "Evening Chronicle" in Newcastle. There was one Black tie hanging in the coffice in case a journalist had to go and write about a funeral. (My initial thoughts the death of Jimi Hendrix?)
The author also wants to know who "Janine" is but gets no answer. He associates the song Janine with Knopflers studies about the Local Hero movie and the oil industry aspect. In the last part the journalist suddenly changes and obviously talks to Guy Fletcher ("who runs the British Grove Studios in London"). It seems he gave up in trying to.get clear answers from MK. Strange review.
LE
Thank you for more new and interesting news. :)
The fishing village of Pennan, however, has expanded... My loose reflection after reading the text "Janine" :)
Post by: dustyvalentino on March 30, 2024, 10:16:18 AM
Maybe I'm wrong but I don't recall his albums ever being so highly received before, even as DS. Usually 3/5 was the norm.
Of course it doesn't really mean a jot unless it comes from a fan such as ourselves.
I think you’re right. I haven’t heard the album of course so maybe it is indeed the best thing that MK has ever done but I think it’s more likely that attitudes have changed from these journalist types towards MK - it was always easy to bash MK and DS as uncool but it’s not a thing anymore it seems.
Post by: JF on March 30, 2024, 10:38:59 AM
Maybe I'm wrong but I don't recall his albums ever being so highly received before, even as DS. Usually 3/5 was the norm.
Of course it doesn't really mean a jot unless it comes from a fan such as ourselves.
I think you’re right. I haven’t heard the album of course so maybe it is indeed the best thing that MK has ever done but I think it’s more likely that attitudes have changed from these journalist types towards MK - it was always easy to bash MK and DS as uncool but it’s not a thing anymore it seems.
I think the same. Mark is old, and now seems to be more "respectable" in medias than he was before
Post by: JF on March 30, 2024, 10:40:37 AM
Maybe I'm wrong but I don't recall his albums ever being so highly received before, even as DS. Usually 3/5 was the norm.
Of course it doesn't really mean a jot unless it comes from a fan such as ourselves.
I think you’re right. I haven’t heard the album of course so maybe it is indeed the best thing that MK has ever done but I think it’s more likely that attitudes have changed from these journalist types towards MK - it was always easy to bash MK and DS as uncool but it’s not a thing anymore it seems.
I think the same. Mark is old, and now seems to be more "respectable" in medias than he was before
maybe one day, someone will write a song about him in the same vein as he did for Beryl... he got a recognition, but maybe a little bit too late...
Post by: hunter v2.0 on March 30, 2024, 11:30:19 AM
Post by: JF on March 30, 2024, 12:14:43 PM
I think he has always been highly respected as a craftsman and lyricist, but the criticism has repeatedly been that he has played it very safe, and that his albums have been quite predictable. And for people who are only casual listeners - not like us who analyze every little detail and can hum his solos by heart ;D - I get where they are coming from.
:thumbsup
Post by: TommyJ88 on April 02, 2024, 11:30:04 AM
Post by: Nick14 on April 02, 2024, 07:24:05 PM
Post by: Nick14 on April 06, 2024, 11:15:13 AM
https://riffmagazine.com/album-reviews/mark-knopfler-one-deep-river/
Post by: Robson on April 06, 2024, 12:52:22 PM
Another strong review:
https://riffmagazine.com/album-reviews/mark-knopfler-one-deep-river/
Thank you Nick14:)
Post by: hunter v2.0 on April 10, 2024, 09:05:17 AM
https://glidemagazine.com/300552/mark-knopfler-returns-with-signature-mix-of-celtic-folk-rock-blues-on-one-deep-river-album-review/
Post by: Nick14 on April 10, 2024, 09:29:33 AM
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Post by: Nick14 on April 10, 2024, 06:13:35 PM
Post by: hunter v2.0 on April 11, 2024, 10:52:20 AM
Knopfler’s decision to place upbeat material at the front end of One Deep River and close with melancholy musings is intentional.
Taken individually, each selection is a minor masterwork. Knopfler combines subtle, intricate guitar shadings, imaginative lyrics and mellifluous melodies into songs as delicate and flowing as a Chihuly glass sculpture.
However, bunching them together diminishes their impact. No one expects a sizzling “Money for Nothing” lick, but injecting more energetic, lively material would help alleviate the somewhat snoozy atmosphere.
Regardless, those looking to enrich a soft Sunday morning vibe and keep the mood mellow, will delight in what Knopfler offers up. His elusive yet exquisite sonic settings also become increasingly impressive after multiple spins.
Post by: wakeywakey on April 11, 2024, 07:32:31 PM
MARK KNOPFLER
ONE DEEP RIVER
BRITISH GROVE
3.5/5
Two months after the instruments
which birthed Money For
Nothing and Walk Of Life sold
at auction for over £1 million in
total, Mark Knopfler returns to
prove his guitar heroics are still
intact. Of course, having long
since settled into the status of
elder statesman, his 10th album
is less arena axeman and more
front porch troubadour.
Once again produced by
former bandmate Guy Fletcher,
the follow-up to 2018’s Down
The Road Wherever mines a
similar vein of country, blues,
folk and Americana, the loping
grooves of opener Two Pairs Of
Hands the only concession to
any musical developments since
Dire Straits disbanded 29 years
ago. Yet, amid all the genial,
laidback vibes, there’s an
occasional lyrical bite.
Boasting wistful pedal steel
from Grammy-winning sideman
Greg Leisz, Smart Money takes
aim at the fickleness of celebrity
culture, and you can take your
pick from the multiple suspects
likely to have inspired political
diatribe This One’s Not Going
To End Well (“Still after he’s
gone/ They’ll whip up old lies/
To ride into power.”)
Now in his mid-70s and with
a world-weary voice to match,
Knopfler also gets deeply
reflective about his early career.
The bittersweet Watch Me Gone
addresses his conflicted feelings
about hitting the big time: “It’s all
gonna happen/ And I’ll be a
happenin’ man.” Meanwhile, the
chugging Ahead Of The Game
finds Knopfler offering advice
to an aspiring singer-songwriter,
perhaps his younger self, about
the trials and tribulations of
starting from the bottom.
Delving even further back,
the orchestral Black Tie Jobs is a
sobering account of Knopfler’s
newsroom beginnings: the inner
journalist also comes out in how
detailed Tunnel 13 documents
its real-life 1920s train robbery.
Meanwhile, the closing title
track, a harmony-laden ode to
the Tyne, adds to Knopfler’s
canon of hometown love letters.
The proud Geordie should
be equally proud of how he
quietly continues to extend his
legacy. Jon O’Brien
Post by: JF on April 12, 2024, 08:45:05 AM
Post by: Knopflerfan on April 12, 2024, 08:49:50 AM
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 12, 2024, 10:33:20 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13299491/Mark-Knopfler-One-Deep-River-review-former-Dire-Straits-singers-guitar-work-understated-delight-solo-record-six-years-writes-ADRIAN-THRILLS.html
Copied and pasted so that people don't have to click on to the Daily Mail website.
Not content with reviving his classic film theme Going Home with Eric Clapton, Bruce Springsteen and others for the Teenage Cancer Trust, the former Dire Straits singer has also come up with his first new solo record in six years.
Its leisurely pace is closer to 1981's Romeo And Juliet than 1985's Money For Nothing, but Knopfler's guitar work is an understated delight, decorating his bar-room blues songs without overshadowing them.
An enduring fascination with America surfaces on railroad heist song Tunnel 13. The title track salutes his native Newcastle.
Post by: jbaent on April 12, 2024, 11:03:53 AM
Post by: Knopflerfan on April 12, 2024, 11:11:00 AM
https://www.dailymail.co.uk/tvshowbiz/article-13299491/Mark-Knopfler-One-Deep-River-review-former-Dire-Straits-singers-guitar-work-understated-delight-solo-record-six-years-writes-ADRIAN-THRILLS.html
Copied and pasted so that people don't have to click on to the Daily Mail website.
Not content with reviving his classic film theme Going Home with Eric Clapton, Bruce Springsteen and others for the Teenage Cancer Trust, the former Dire Straits singer has also come up with his first new solo record in six years.
Its leisurely pace is closer to 1981's Romeo And Juliet than 1985's Money For Nothing, but Knopfler's guitar work is an understated delight, decorating his bar-room blues songs without overshadowing them.
An enduring fascination with America surfaces on railroad heist song Tunnel 13. The title track salutes his native Newcastle.
Not even a review to be honest, usual DM Tripe!!
Post by: Knopflerfan on April 12, 2024, 11:11:53 AM
Actually, do we mind about reviews of the album made by journalists that are paid just to review everything released? Their opinion are nothing for me, really.
Couldn't care less to be honest!
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 12, 2024, 11:13:40 AM
Actually, do we mind about reviews of the album made by journalists that are paid just to review everything released? Their opinion are nothing for me, really.
Not sure how we would be able to determine which is which.
Now that the album is out I guess very few get-a-lifers care about the reviews anyway to be honest.
With streaming reviews are basically pointless anyway. It used to be helpful if it was a source you trusted before you spent £15 on a CD without hearing it. Now you can just listen and make your own mind up.
Post by: JF on April 12, 2024, 01:26:14 PM
reviews of the album made by journalists that are paid just to review everything released?
sometimes it's the case yes
but there are also "journalists" that suggest articles
including me ;D
well, I am noit really a journalist but I work with them.
sometimes they write about something they don't care, but sometimes they also write about something they really like. It depends
Post by: stratmad on April 12, 2024, 04:09:28 PM
"Gorgeous songs, sung in a voice that sounds like it's lived a life that's full": Mark Knopfler repeats his formula to great effect on One Deep River
Dire Straits mainman Mark Knopfler delivers one of his best solo records
By David Quantick( Classic Rock ) published 9 hours ago
To paraphrase Kenneth Tynan on Eugene Ionesco, once you’ve heard all of Mark Knopfler’s solo albums, you’ve heard one of them.
There’s one or two reflective world-weary ballads, a couple of reflective world-weary toe-tappers, and some finely wrought reflective world-weary character studies that are self-contained short stories.
Because the thing about Knopfler’s solo albums – of which this is the tenth, if you don’t count soundtracks – is that it doesn’t matter that they’re all cut from the same cloth, because it’s a brilliant cloth, part Dylan, part folk, part stadium melancholy.
One Deep River is one of Knopfler’s best. These are gorgeous songs, sung in a voice that sounds like it’s lived a life that’s full, and the character songs – which Knopfler has excelled at since Sultans Of Swing – are as poignant as ever. Roll on album number 11.
Post by: El Macho on April 12, 2024, 04:52:28 PM
Post by: Robson on April 12, 2024, 04:54:00 PM
Nobody says anything about the vinyl bonus tracks ?
I asked about that too.
Post by: Knopflerfan on April 12, 2024, 06:19:08 PM
Nobody says anything about the vinyl bonus tracks ?
Unless anybody elaborates before me, once I get back from London I'll give them an airing on the turntable!
Post by: El Macho on April 12, 2024, 08:21:27 PM
Nobody says anything about the vinyl bonus tracks ?
Back home, I'm listening to them right now
Dolly Shop Man : nice country song with pretty much pedal steel guitar
Your Leading Man : slow song with a nice melody that is played instrumentally at the end. A little guitar lick recalls me So Far Away
Wrong' Un : a little counrty song
Chess : a bit country with strange sounds by Guy, a bit of whistle by Mike. Very unsual :o
Post by: Robson on April 12, 2024, 08:25:55 PM
Nobody says anything about the vinyl bonus tracks ?
Back home, I'm listening to them right now
Dolly Shop Man : nice country song with pretty much pedal steel guitar
Your Leading Man : slow song with a nice melody that is played instrumentally at the end. A little guitar lick recalls me So Far Away
Wrong' Un : a little counrty song
Chess : a bit country with strange sounds by Guy, a bit of whistle by Mike. Very unsual :o
Wow! Thank you El Macho:)
Post by: Knopflerfan on April 12, 2024, 10:25:01 PM
Nobody says anything about the vinyl bonus tracks ?
Back home, I'm listening to them right now
Dolly Shop Man : nice country song with pretty much pedal steel guitar
Your Leading Man : slow song with a nice melody that is played instrumentally at the end. A little guitar lick recalls me So Far Away
Wrong' Un : a little counrty song
Chess : a bit country with strange sounds by Guy, a bit of whistle by Mike. Very unsual :o
I've added the lyrics to the main page...
Post by: JF on April 13, 2024, 11:52:34 AM
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/culture/musique/rock/retour-aux-sources-pour-mark-knopfler-sur-son-nouvel-album-one-deep-river_6480308.html
Post by: jf9081 on April 13, 2024, 01:21:12 PM
my review has been (finally ;D) published :
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/culture/musique/rock/retour-aux-sources-pour-mark-knopfler-sur-son-nouvel-album-one-deep-river_6480308.html
Beautiful review :clap
Post by: kaleo74 on April 13, 2024, 08:08:19 PM
my review has been (finally ;D) published :Superbe article JF
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/culture/musique/rock/retour-aux-sources-pour-mark-knopfler-sur-son-nouvel-album-one-deep-river_6480308.html
Post by: JF on April 13, 2024, 11:15:29 PM
Post by: Pasc' on April 13, 2024, 11:22:23 PM
Merci ; bravo !
Post by: stratmad on April 14, 2024, 12:12:31 AM
Post by: K-alberto on April 14, 2024, 11:22:21 AM
https://www.rockol.it/recensioni-musicali/album/11045/mark-knopfler-one-deep-river
Post by: stratmad on April 14, 2024, 03:02:05 PM
Post by: jbaent on April 14, 2024, 09:48:05 PM
Like MK sings in his Local hero musical, life is numbers 😜
Post by: K-alberto on April 14, 2024, 09:53:38 PM
Post by: jbaent on April 14, 2024, 10:00:16 PM
Yesterday I saw ODR no 1 on british and german Amazon, no. 2 in Italy :clap
That's truly amazing!
Post by: K-alberto on April 14, 2024, 10:24:31 PM
Yesterday I saw ODR no 1 on british and german Amazon, no. 2 in Italy :clap
That's truly amazing!
Definitely!! May not be the most reliable source, but it's a strong signal :)
Post by: Marnix on April 14, 2024, 10:24:55 PM
Post by: arthurvanb on April 15, 2024, 12:44:38 PM
Actually, do we mind about reviews of the album made by journalists that are paid just to review everything released? Their opinion are nothing for me, really.
I’ve searched back and read a lot of reviews in the Dutch newspapers from the early DS days until today. Literally since 1979 most of the reviews are negative: boring, slow, no energy, etc etc. And even after almost 30 years of MK solo albums they’re still looking for Money for Nothing lookalikes. If you don’t like the music just say so before writing a review. ;)
Post by: jbaent on April 15, 2024, 12:45:57 PM
Actually, do we mind about reviews of the album made by journalists that are paid just to review everything released? Their opinion are nothing for me, really.
I’ve searched back and read a lot of reviews in the Dutch newspapers from the early DS days until today. Literally since 1979 most of the reviews are negative: boring, slow, no energy, etc etc. And even after almost 30 years of MK solo albums they’re still looking for Money for Nothing lookalikes. If you don’t like the music just say so before writing a review. ;)
Who cares...
Post by: Nick14 on April 15, 2024, 01:29:58 PM
Post by: Rail King on April 15, 2024, 01:38:13 PM
my review has been (finally ;D) published :
https://www.francetvinfo.fr/culture/musique/rock/retour-aux-sources-pour-mark-knopfler-sur-son-nouvel-album-one-deep-river_6480308.html
Bon travail, JF!
Post by: K-alberto on April 15, 2024, 06:37:48 PM
Number 1 in the Dutch iTunes Store
No. 1 on Amazon Italy !!! :clap :clap :clap
Post by: jf9081 on April 15, 2024, 07:13:51 PM
Number 1 in the Dutch iTunes Store
No. 1 on Amazon Italy !!! :clap :clap :clap
:lol :clap :clap :clap
Post by: Nick14 on April 15, 2024, 07:18:13 PM
Post by: Kris-b on April 15, 2024, 07:43:36 PM
Post by: Knopflerfan on April 15, 2024, 07:49:33 PM
Post by: JF on April 16, 2024, 12:26:26 AM
Post by: Rail King on April 16, 2024, 02:00:48 PM
6/10 here: https://www.clashmusic.com/reviews/mark-knopfler-one-deep-river/
"The repeated synth washes feel a little dated" – exactly my point. And my only criticism of the album.
Post by: Robson on April 16, 2024, 02:08:14 PM
Post by: Rail King on April 19, 2024, 11:33:48 AM
Dated? In which place? There are few synthesizers on the new album.
Few, but still way too many. ;) Mostly used for atmospheric effect. Note that the very last sound you'll hear on the record, at the end of One Big River, is a synth. I'm not sure where it sneaks in (and why), but it's there at the end, as so often. And while it's impossible to ruin a song as good as this, the synth is also totally unnecessary, in my opinion.
The synths I dislike the most are the ones that pretend to sound like real instruments (but don't quite get there), like the string synths on the otherwise wonderful Black Tie Jobs. Why not have an orchestra at British Grove? I don't get it.
Post by: garibaldi on April 26, 2024, 01:43:40 PM
https://avidandrew.com/one-deep-river.html
Post by: stratmad on April 26, 2024, 02:06:50 PM
Post by: Robson on April 26, 2024, 03:50:05 PM
I didn't want to write it up until I had a chance to really listen to the songs and let them sink in, so here (finally) is my review:
https://avidandrew.com/one-deep-river.html
Do you like only half of the album? ;)
Post by: stratmad on April 26, 2024, 04:01:15 PM
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Post by: dustyvalentino on April 26, 2024, 06:58:16 PM
Post by: stratmad on April 27, 2024, 12:57:03 PM
Post by: garibaldi on April 27, 2024, 04:40:10 PM
I didn't want to write it up until I had a chance to really listen to the songs and let them sink in, so here (finally) is my review:
https://avidandrew.com/one-deep-river.html
Do you like only half of the album? ;)
Roughly yes, but that's pretty typical for me when I listen to Mark Knopfler's solo work. He writes in a lot of different styles (rock, blues, country, celtic, etc) and so not all of them will appeal to everyone (unless you're a super MK fan). I personally don't like the country and celtic stuff very much, but really enjoy the rock and blues. I think some of them will grow on me over time too, e.g. I like Janine now but didn't have anything specific to say about it in the review (yet).
https://www.culturesonar.com/mark-knopfler-one-deep-artist/ (https://www.culturesonar.com/mark-knopfler-one-deep-artist/)
Thanks, this was a good read
Post by: Robson on April 27, 2024, 04:52:47 PM
I didn't want to write it up until I had a chance to really listen to the songs and let them sink in, so here (finally) is my review:
https://avidandrew.com/one-deep-river.html
Do you like only half of the album? ;)
Roughly yes, but that's pretty typical for me when I listen to Mark Knopfler's solo work. He writes in a lot of different styles (rock, blues, country, celtic, etc) and so not all of them will appeal to everyone (unless you're a super MK fan). I personally don't like the country and celtic stuff very much, but really enjoy the rock and blues. I think some of them will grow on me over time too, e.g. I like Janine now but didn't have anything specific to say about it in the review (yet).https://www.culturesonar.com/mark-knopfler-one-deep-artist/ (https://www.culturesonar.com/mark-knopfler-one-deep-artist/)
Thanks, this was a good read
I see:)
Post by: vgonis on May 03, 2024, 01:32:01 AM
In Greece as well, the press people, are not very fond of MK. There is actually no music press in Greece anymore, at least not like Uncut, Mojo, etc. Everything went bust after 2010. But the journalists that survived and kept on writing on blogs, fanzines and newspaper music columns, are of a generation that consider MK and the likes, (Phil Collins, Eric Clapton, etc) too unfashionable because these journalists seem to think that punk, new wave, post rock and the currents that come from those music genres, are the genuine ones and every other musician that kept on doing the rock thing, is a dinosaur, but of the boring kind. Imagine that! For example Nirvana are already more than 35 years old and yet they consider them the high point of music of the last 50 years. If this isn't shortsightedness, I don't know what is.
I have written a couple of times to Uncut to complain about the way they handle the reviews when it comes to MK and DS, because i find insulting to see them award 9/10 to albums that are forgotten the very next day and influence nobody at all, let alone have minimum sales and even fewer fans, just because they have journalists that have this mentality to promote things just because they sound new, forgetting that they should also sound good. I am tired of trying these albums and being deeply disappointed by their lack of quality. I even wondered if there is no journalist in those magazines, that actually like MK, in order to give them the albums to review, instead of giving them to know it all snobs.
Sorry for the nagging.
Post by: dustyvalentino on May 03, 2024, 07:11:45 AM