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OfflineEddie Fox

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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #270 on: December 31, 2017, 07:15:11 PM »
Thanks a lot for posting it. Alan is one of the finest rock’n roll keyboardists I’ve come across and his playing played a very important role in the DS sound from LOG onwards. I won’t let his recent behavior cloud my judgement. I’m extremely disappointed in him for all this legacy bs but as a musician he’ll always have my respect and admiration.

I find his early contributions to DS songs quite infuriating tbh.  His additions to Sultans on the On Location tour  completely spoiled the song and the same can be said for others.  I have often thought that Mark "let him loose" creatively on this tour but "reigned him in" afterwards, realising that most of it just didn't work but it was too late to change while already on tour.

Regarding his recent behaviour, I am really disappointed in him, and I suppose this is why some of us have taken to heavy criticism of the man Visitor.  It has tainted his contribution to DS for me now and whenever I hear him play I no longer enjoy it like I used to.  These guys were all heroes to me but now I just don't like him.

I agree with you to an extent. I also prefer SOS without keys, let alone the sax. But some songs from the first two albums benefited from Alan’s contribution me thinks. He did a great job with Once Upon a Time in the West for example.

Having said that, I was actually referring to LOG, BIA and OES. I didn’t really think of live performances. Should have though.
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #271 on: January 01, 2018, 06:54:38 PM »
I love Alan's work during OL tour on :
- piano on fisrt half of Angel of mercy, an then organ and piano during band introduction
- piano during in down to the waterline (e.g. werchter)
- organ/synth on wehre do you think you're going
- clavinet on single handed sailor
- piano intro on Tunelle of love, and of course all later veolutions to Alchemy and BIA tour
- news
- once upon a time in the west and of course the evolution to Alchemy
- lions

and of course his "work" and early versions of Telegraph road  ;)


I agree that keys on sultans and in the gallery are  a little bit too much

and I agree with DS1984 : Mark has always been the boss. if Alan's arrangements were kept during the whole tour, it's because Mark liked them, if not, he would have asked Alan to change them.

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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #272 on: January 07, 2018, 02:33:18 PM »
Thanks all for given "3 chord tricks" this much attention. I would never have given it any attention otherwise. I must admit that I never thought that album would be any good. But it is. Its really good actually. I really like 3 chord trick, Bounty Hunter, Looking for America, Here And Now, and Alans work on Magdalene ala TR as someone said. I dont know who has the vocals on Magdalene. They should have him as primary vocal as he is better than the guy that sings on most tracks.

And yes its not as great as MK productions, but it does not need to be. They have proven that they actually can do something themselves. Contrary what MK claims. Respect for that. The tracks are in my view better than the worst from MK´s side which makes them good.
Give them a listen on YT, and buy it if you think its good. I did thanks to these threads. The "DS genom" is alive in there, and the sound/guitars are quite good.


 
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #273 on: January 07, 2018, 03:14:36 PM »
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #274 on: January 07, 2018, 03:28:35 PM »
I agree it's a pretty decent album overall. Marco's singing though...
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #275 on: January 07, 2018, 03:34:07 PM »
But why do they use the name Dire Straits? It's probably unfair.
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #276 on: January 07, 2018, 03:52:39 PM »
That part is unfair, but read here https://www.legacyband.cloud/    they call themselves Legacy now.
They have done a proper job with that album, regardless of MK claims. MK is our hero, but even a hero can be wrong sometimes.... just saying.

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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #277 on: January 07, 2018, 03:59:49 PM »
I know this story. My question was rhetorical :) Mark Knopfler solved the band Dire Straits is simple for me. I know that at concerts they used the name Dire Straits. This should not happen.
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #278 on: January 07, 2018, 04:02:45 PM »
I'm just listening "After The Beanstalk" :)
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #279 on: January 07, 2018, 05:05:23 PM »
The album is good, I like it.
Too bad that it took them so long to do something  of their own. Had they done that in the first place, without using the DS name, and play live their own songs together with a few DS numbers, the way John does, Mark would never have gone mad with them. There would have been no harsh lyrics on both TOTT and 3CT. Well both sides officially deny that the other side was the target, but hey, we know...

Mark claims actually were not false. They were true at the time TOTT was written. Maybe actually Mark did them a great favour with this song - he kicked their butt and maybe gave them a wake-up call that had them make a record ! :)

Epiphany is good but sounds a lot like Silvertown Blues.Marco has denied any influence...oh well...

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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #280 on: January 07, 2018, 05:18:52 PM »
The album is good, I like it.
Too bad that it took them so long to do something  of their own. Had they done that in the first place, without using the DS name, and play live their own songs together with a few DS numbers, the way John does, Mark would never have gone mad with them. There would have been no harsh lyrics on both TOTT and 3CT. Well both sides officially deny that the other side was the target, but hey, we know...

Mark claims actually were not false. They were true at the time TOTT was written. Maybe actually Mark did them a great favour with this song - he kicked their butt and maybe gave them a wake-up call that had them make a record ! :)

Epiphany is good but sounds a lot like Silvertown Blues.Marco has denied any influence...oh well...

I had the same thoughts. Maybe MK did  ;D
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #281 on: January 07, 2018, 06:42:28 PM »
I'm just listening "After The Beanstalk" :)
believe or not,  i have just had!!
i went up there times but it NEVER was for the gold!
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #282 on: January 07, 2018, 07:44:40 PM »
"Well the harp's worth more than any fortune and fame"
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #283 on: January 07, 2018, 08:32:43 PM »
"Well the harp's worth more than any fortune and fame"
amongst the other things, exactly!
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Re: 3 Chord Trick (Legacy)
« Reply #284 on: January 07, 2018, 08:45:23 PM »
After The Beanstalk - Great text. Words and music are compatible. I did not immediately understand what Mark meant :)
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