A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Eddie Fox on May 30, 2018, 07:58:18 PM
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Have you checked Guy's forum today? Maybe you should! I quite like the way Guy's been answering questions since the whole RRHOF quarrel. Apparently he's not afraid of speaking out anymore.
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Damn. That IS a change.
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Now that I've regained consciousness...WOW! Has someone hacked his website or is he for real? Maybe it was that post from our Val what did it.
I especially liked the part where he said: "Set repetition does have its disadvantages, admittedly."
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I can´t believe what I´m reading.
Will save it just in case he decides he drunk so much last night.
I´m starting to salivate
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Now that I've regained consciousness...WOW! Has someone hacked his website or is he for real? Maybe it was that post from our Val what did it.
I especially liked the part where he said: "Set repetition does have its disadvantages, admittedly."
Thanks dmg, but I think the credit for that should go to Wolfy! :lol Cheers, LE! :clap
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I caught up on The Doc's forum and I must say he was being unusually frank and the comments were a breath of fresh air compared to his usual "safe" responses.
Interesting to hear the guys don't tend to rehearse before a tour (largely due to the static set list) and The Doc's acknowledgement that the set list is tired and needs a massive overhaul.
"Has its disadvantages".....Yes, a bored audience and fanbase who vote with their feet and wallets and don't come to your live shows.....more and more fans just buy the album - only!
Certain songs have been long known as "need a pee/beer" tunes, so it would be great to have a set list that keeps you captured....with lots of surprises. There is such a rich back catalogue of DS and solo material, the complacency MK shows his audience with a "same as" set list has a whiff of the R&RHOF farce....
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I won't put any credibility on all this, specially since is MK who says what's going to be played, and not the Doc.
Guy and the band obviously rather change the set because if it's always the same it's boring to them, but the boss is the boss.
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No one asks for credibility. But it's remarkable that Guy changed his way of answering set list rants.
LE
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The answer about not rehearsing really shed a light on the way tours are seen by MK, don't you think? To me, he looked exactly like that in 2015: Unrehearsed.
LE
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The answer about not rehearsing really shed a light on the way tours are seen by MK, don't you think? To me, he looked exactly like that in 2015: Unrehearsed.
LE
Yep. Frankly I find it a bit of an insult that he warms-up on his fee paying fans early in the tour.
Looking to the HOF debacle (yet again), I am think perhaps this has led to Guys newly found sense of freedom. Perhaps he is miffed with Mark and perhaps talking to Alan has led him astray with stories that old DS tunes are actually still popular to audiences.
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The band is always able to deliver quality work, and they do. I remember Dublin 2015, sitting first row, with many amiters... but at no point MK himself blew me away, it was great to see him, yes, like seeing old friends again, but I expected more... Most of his solo play had that cringe moment to it, realizing, yes indeed, he IS getting older .... the long set however was a nice touch, although with too many boring songs at the end...
Why I repeat that? Because now I realize how this could happen. Plus when in Hamburg a month later, I went with a very good guitar Player and a DS lover, no Hardcore fan, and he said exactly that after the show, he's rusty, you see that he doesn't rehearse.. I remember that our member Goldenheart96 was attacked on Facebook for stating the same opinion..
So maybe this longer than usual break leads to the need of rehearsals and therefore to a couple of new (old) songs...
LE
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I mean you shouldn't sit there and fear that he messes up Sultans ... or you wait for the mess up moment and there it is, if there is one thing he delivers, it will be that mistake again..
He is bound to this couple of songs only as he really cannot play anymore, he is able to repeat these, but has no energy to liften up his guitar skills to do other stuff. The choice of On Every Street and Your Latest Trick with featuring the Sax more than the guitar is evident to that. So it's more and more demanding to him to deliver good playing, therefore he dishes up what's safe for him. That thought about him turning to an album artist from Guy's forum has something to it the more I think about it...
LE
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To be fair, after I woke up from my short nap at that Hamburg 2015 show, he really delivered a great Brothers In Arms, really a blast from the past which almost gave me those long lost shivers. That version would be worth buying the recording alone, I remember thinking.
LE
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To be fair, after I woke up from my short nap at that Hamburg 2015 show, he really delivered a great Brothers In Arms, really a blast from the past which almost gave me those long lost shivers. That version would be worth buying the recording alone, I remember thinking.
LE
You’ve done it, LE!! Something positive!;-) I’m joking of course. I kinda agree. But he can still do it if he wants I’m sure. If only he’d rehearse more..
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The band is always able to deliver quality work, and they do. I remember Dublin 2015, sitting first row, with many amiters... but at no point MK himself blew me away, it was great to see him, yes, like seeing old friends again, but I expected more... Most of his solo play had that cringe moment to it, realizing, yes indeed, he IS getting older .... the long set however was a nice touch, although with too many boring songs at the end...
Why I repeat that? Because now I realize how this could happen. Plus when in Hamburg a month later, I went with a very good guitar Player and a DS lover, no Hardcore fan, and he said exactly that after the show, he's rusty, you see that he doesn't rehearse.. I remember that our member Goldenheart96 was attacked on Facebook for stating the same opinion..
So maybe this longer than usual break leads to the need of rehearsals and therefore to a couple of new (old) songs...
LE
I believe you about the Dublin gig, LE, even though I wasn't there, but I was at Manchester the next night and I thought he played extremely well and, yes, it was a long set there as well, so he can play well when he puts his mind to it. :)
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We all know who the decision maker is but it feels good to see Guy speaking out and releasing the kraken. I'm sure it has something to do with the HOF drama. Maybe Guy and Mark had a frank talk and our good doc got it all off his chest?
Regarding Mark's playing, it's pretty obvious to me as a guitar player that (and being very generous here) he's no longer at his peak but I do think he can still deliver great performances if he puts himself to it.
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I regularly listen my last MK concert - Sion 2015.
Sounds fantastic to me - including Sultans and TR.
Not the best versions ever, sure, and not the fastest ever, but still very good to hear. And fantastic HFB, SAN and GH...
Let's not exagerate Mark's supposed downfall !
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only laugh and jokes :thumbsup
finally someone managed to tell a green field from a cold steel rail? :clap
(i hope you're not serious people)
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only laugh and jokes :thumbsup
finally someone managed to tell a green field from a cold steel rail? :clap
(i hope you're not serious people)
I’ll tell you when I find out what you mean...
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Guy's site is down... (what have we done ::) :hmm)
LE
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Mark told him to to this!
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Guy's site is down... (what have we done ::) :hmm)
LE
ooops, sorry
;D ;D ;D ;D ;D
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Guy's site is down... (what have we done ::) :hmm)
LE
Jokes apart... with last answers from Guy I thought, someone must had hacked his site and the person answering is not Guy.
And now Guy's site is down.
Maybe his site was hacked really, that would make more sense than his latest answers.
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Now it makes sense
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Hmmm.. don't believe in being hacked ... what I can report is that he called me "Wolfy" in earlier, not openly released mails. ;-) so at least that one was presumably from him still...
Revamping the site because of June, 1st and coming up with official news about the new album was my first thought ...
LE
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Hmmm.. don't believe in being hacked ... what I can report is that he called me "Wolfy" in earlier, not openly released mails. ;-) so at least that one was presumably from him still...
Revamping the site because of June, 1st and coming up with official news about the new album was my first thought ...
LE
Guy calling you Wolfy was the sign that something was already happening. Didn't know he called you that before.
Let's hope it's just a site updating. His last asnwers were rare, but nice LOL
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There are 1 or 2 songs from the current set that I would like to keep listening to - Hill Farmer's Blues and So Far Away (yeah, I'm a sucker for this one).
But the rest, stuff like Postcards From Paraguay, Marbletown, Corned Beef City, Speedway at Nazareth and so on, need to be dropped.
I wish he would revisit Golden Heart and Sailing to Philadelphia a bit more. Songs like Are We In Trouble Now, Rudiger, Silvertown Blues would be great to hear.
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Site is back
Is it just me or did he change his answer referring the rehearsals slightly?
LE
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Site is back
Is it just me or did he change his answer referring the rehearsals slightly?
LE
I don't think so, looks the same to me.
I hope Guy's new persona sticks around. In fact I tend to believe that's his true persona.
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There are 1 or 2 songs from the current set that I would like to keep listening to - Hill Farmer's Blues and So Far Away (yeah, I'm a sucker for this one).
But the rest, stuff like Postcards From Paraguay, Marbletown, Corned Beef City, Speedway at Nazareth and so on, need to be dropped.
I wish he would revisit Golden Heart and Sailing to Philadelphia a bit more. Songs like Are We In Trouble Now, Rudiger, Silvertown Blues would be great to hear.
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No offence but I think Rüdiger was played to death over many tours and promo shows. It's also an extremely dull and boring song, especially when played in a concert situation. There's loads of rare stuff and songs that haven't been played for decades he could try before any of that. Personally I think The Dullards would be good at much of the country stuff from OES like When It Comes To You and How Long.
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There are 1 or 2 songs from the current set that I would like to keep listening to - Hill Farmer's Blues and So Far Away (yeah, I'm a sucker for this one).
But the rest, stuff like Postcards From Paraguay, Marbletown, Corned Beef City, Speedway at Nazareth and so on, need to be dropped.
I wish he would revisit Golden Heart and Sailing to Philadelphia a bit more. Songs like Are We In Trouble Now, Rudiger, Silvertown Blues would be great to hear.
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No offence but I think Rüdiger was played to death over many tours and promo shows. It's also an extremely dull and boring song, especially when played in a concert situation. There's loads of rare stuff and songs that haven't been played for decades he could try before any of that. Personally I think The Dullards would be good at much of the country stuff from OES like When It Comes To You and How Long.
Rudiger was only played for 3 tours. Way less than Speedway...
And it's a damn good song to me. My favourite from the GH album. I like it much more than the two you've mentionned...
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Rudiger was great during the GH tour.
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Rudiger was great during the GH tour.
Yes, after that tour, it was boring, specially considering that in GH there was great tracks, better than R.
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Speedway must stay in the setlist. A must have like SOS !
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How i would love to see him play Hand in Hand at a concert. Replace it for R&J.
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In my opinion no song needs to be dropped, that's not the point. Mark needs to develop an ever-changing setlist so that people go to different shows and have different experiences instead of seeing the same thing evening after evening, tour after tour, like they are stuck in a loop.
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For me, MK concerts are a real musical art. Sometimes I feel like in the theater. The same kind of focus, listening and sensitivity. People go to the theater all the time for the same performance. Mark can not change the concert every day. That would be unfair.
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For me, MK concerts are a real musical art. Sometimes I feel like in the theater. The same kind of focus, listening and sensitivity. People go to the theater all the time for the same performance. Mark can not change the concert every day. That would be unfair.
Robson, sometimes I wonder what kind of perfect world you live in. Good thing here is if Mark does start to shake things up and provide the fans with more creative setlists you'll certainly like it too lol
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For me, MK concerts are a real musical art. Sometimes I feel like in the theater. The same kind of focus, listening and sensitivity. People go to the theater all the time for the same performance. Mark can not change the concert every day. That would be unfair.
Robson, sometimes I wonder what kind of perfect world you live in lol
We do not talk about me. This is my point. :wave
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For me, MK concerts are a real musical art. Sometimes I feel like in the theater. The same kind of focus, listening and sensitivity. People go to the theater all the time for the same performance. Mark can not change the concert every day. That would be unfair.
Robson, sometimes I wonder what kind of perfect world you live in lol
We do not talk about me. This is my point. :wave
You are alone on an island on this one buddy, trust me. Every single fan of Mark's I know apart from you craves a diversified setlist.
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For me, MK concerts are a real musical art. Sometimes I feel like in the theater. The same kind of focus, listening and sensitivity. People go to the theater all the time for the same performance. Mark can not change the concert every day. That would be unfair.
Robson, sometimes I wonder what kind of perfect world you live in lol
We do not talk about me. This is my point. :wave
You are alone on an island on this one buddy, trust me. Every single fan of Mark's I know apart from you craves a diversified setlist.
I do not feel lonely : ) Please, do not talk about me. Privateering? Father And Son? Hill Farmer's Blues? Speedway?, Romeo ? Sultans? Marbletown? I want this !
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You can have it, I didn't say otherwise. What you need to understand is that the vast majority here also want other songs that have been ignored by Mark over the years to be visited. So my question is, don't you think it's fair that not only you but everyone has what they want?
And just for the record, I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about Mark's setlists. If you like static setlists why don't you simply listen to the same gig over and over again? Or even better, listen to all gigs from the past three tours. You got plenty of material to satisfy your soul.
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You can have it, I didn't say otherwise. What you need to understand is that the vast majority here also want other songs that have been ignored by Mark over the years to be visited. So my question is, don't you think it's fair that not only you but everyone has what they want?
And just for the record, I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about Mark's setlists. If you like static setlists why don't you simply listen to the same gig over and over again? Or even better, listen to all gigs from the past three tours. You got plenty of material to satisfy your soul.
But I do and like. I will also accept new songs with joy. I do not see any contradictions here. I did not write that I do not want anything new. But still listen to the old material with joy. There is nothing strange about this. I think so
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You can have it, I didn't say otherwise. What you need to understand is that the vast majority here also want other songs that have been ignored by Mark over the years to be visited. So my question is, don't you think it's fair that not only you but everyone has what they want?
And just for the record, I'm not talking about you, I'm talking about Mark's setlists. If you like static setlists why don't you simply listen to the same gig over and over again? Or even better, listen to all gigs from the past three tours. You got plenty of material to satisfy your soul.
But I do and like. I will also accept new songs with joy. I do not see any contradictions here. I did not write that I do not want anything new. But still listen to the old material with joy. There is nothing strange about this. I think so
Cool :clap
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In my opinion no song needs to be dropped, that's not the point. Mark needs to develop an ever-changing setlist so that people go to different shows and have different experiences instead of seeing the same thing evening after evening, tour after tour, like they are stuck in a loop.
Years ago I used to agree with this, now I don't agree, but there is a reason.
I believe that is unfair that people going to different concerts in different places listen to different songs, everybody deserves to listen to the same songs. Many Spanish fans that couldn't travel didn't had the chance to listen "5.15.a.m" or "Back To Tupelo" during the Privateering tour. I was lucky because I travelled exactly to one of the very few concerts in which MK played them, but that was unfair to the rest of people that attented the rest of concerts.
I believe that a tour should have a setlist that gives equal chance to anybody anywhere to listen the same songs, but at the same time, I believe the setlist must change from one tour to the next in a big number of songs, leaving just the hits as the repeated songs.
The tracker tour and the privateering tour were so similar, despite the fact that 5 songs from Tracker were played, even the surprising add of "Your latest trick" or "On every street", the skeleton of the setlist was so similar that it was almost the same.
If you play 20 songs in a concert, for example, change 12 of that songs, and leave 8 hits between DS and MK solo career, change that from tour to tour, and that would be perfect.
But to play different songs from one show to the next, like Springsteen does.. It's not fair. Some years ago I went to see Springsteen to Madrid, and was a great show, but two days after, he played Bilbao and changed almost half of the songs, songs that I liked more than the ones I listened to in Madrid. Luck for Bilbao fans, bad luck for Madrid fans that wanted to listen some of the songs people from Bilbao heard, and maybe the other way around. That's not fair.
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In my opinion no song needs to be dropped, that's not the point. Mark needs to develop an ever-changing setlist so that people go to different shows and have different experiences instead of seeing the same thing evening after evening, tour after tour, like they are stuck in a loop.
Years ago I used to agree with this, now I don't agree, but there is a reason.
I believe that is unfair that people going to different concerts in different places listen to different songs, everybody deserves to listen to the same songs. Many Spanish fans that couldn't travel didn't had the chance to listen "5.15.a.m" or "Back To Tupelo" during the Privateering tour. I was lucky because I travelled exactly to one of the very few concerts in which MK played them, but that was unfair to the rest of people that attented the rest of concerts.
I believe that a tour should have a setlist that gives equal chance to anybody anywhere to listen the same songs, but at the same time, I believe the setlist must change from one tour to the next in a big number of songs, leaving just the hits as the repeated songs.
The tracker tour and the privateering tour were so similar, despite the fact that 5 songs from Tracker were played, even the surprising add of "Your latest trick" or "On every street", the skeleton of the setlist was so similar that it was almost the same.
If you play 20 songs in a concert, for example, change 12 of that songs, and leave 8 hits between DS and MK solo career, change that from tour to tour, and that would be perfect.
But to play different songs from one show to the next, like Springsteen does.. It's not fair. Some years ago I went to see Springsteen to Madrid, and was a great show, but two days after, he played Bilbao and changed almost half of the songs, songs that I liked more than the ones I listened to in Madrid. Luck for Bilbao fans, bad luck for Madrid fans that wanted to listen some of the songs people from Bilbao heard, and maybe the other way around. That's not fair.
I'm 50% with you there. I agree that the show must have a group of songs that should be played every evening throughout the tour. However, in my opinion the other songs can be changed from gig to gig without affecting the experience. I don't wanna go to a concert knowing exactly which songs are going to be performed, that's boring. At the end of the day 20 songs are 20 songs.
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In my opinion no song needs to be dropped, that's not the point. Mark needs to develop an ever-changing setlist so that people go to different shows and have different experiences instead of seeing the same thing evening after evening, tour after tour, like they are stuck in a loop.
Years ago I used to agree with this, now I don't agree, but there is a reason.
I believe that is unfair that people going to different concerts in different places listen to different songs, everybody deserves to listen to the same songs. Many Spanish fans that couldn't travel didn't had the chance to listen "5.15.a.m" or "Back To Tupelo" during the Privateering tour. I was lucky because I travelled exactly to one of the very few concerts in which MK played them, but that was unfair to the rest of people that attented the rest of concerts.
I believe that a tour should have a setlist that gives equal chance to anybody anywhere to listen the same songs, but at the same time, I believe the setlist must change from one tour to the next in a big number of songs, leaving just the hits as the repeated songs.
The tracker tour and the privateering tour were so similar, despite the fact that 5 songs from Tracker were played, even the surprising add of "Your latest trick" or "On every street", the skeleton of the setlist was so similar that it was almost the same.
If you play 20 songs in a concert, for example, change 12 of that songs, and leave 8 hits between DS and MK solo career, change that from tour to tour, and that would be perfect.
But to play different songs from one show to the next, like Springsteen does.. It's not fair. Some years ago I went to see Springsteen to Madrid, and was a great show, but two days after, he played Bilbao and changed almost half of the songs, songs that I liked more than the ones I listened to in Madrid. Luck for Bilbao fans, bad luck for Madrid fans that wanted to listen some of the songs people from Bilbao heard, and maybe the other way around. That's not fair.
:thumbsup I agree, I wrote about it before.
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Wow, you two agreed on something, that's a first! :lol :lol :lol
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Wow, you two agreed on something, that's a first! :lol :lol :lol
That's the greatest thing in this forum, in the end we all agree at least in one thing...
For example, Eddie and I we agree we like ginger women ;D :lol
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Wow, you two agreed on something, that's a first! :lol :lol :lol
Not only I live in the perfect world ; )
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Wow, you two agreed on something, that's a first! :lol :lol :lol
That's the greatest thing in this forum, in the end we all agree at least in one thing...
For example, Eddie and I we agree we like ginger women ;D :lol
Oh come on, we agree on most things. And just for the record, I met a lovely ginger last week! 8)
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Wow, you two agreed on something, that's a first! :lol :lol :lol
Not only I live in the perfect world ; )
He's just passing through, that world is only yours :lol
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In my opinion no song needs to be dropped, that's not the point. Mark needs to develop an ever-changing setlist so that people go to different shows and have different experiences instead of seeing the same thing evening after evening, tour after tour, like they are stuck in a loop.
Years ago I used to agree with this, now I don't agree, but there is a reason.
I believe that is unfair that people going to different concerts in different places listen to different songs, everybody deserves to listen to the same songs. Many Spanish fans that couldn't travel didn't had the chance to listen "5.15.a.m" or "Back To Tupelo" during the Privateering tour. I was lucky because I travelled exactly to one of the very few concerts in which MK played them, but that was unfair to the rest of people that attented the rest of concerts.
I believe that a tour should have a setlist that gives equal chance to anybody anywhere to listen the same songs, but at the same time, I believe the setlist must change from one tour to the next in a big number of songs, leaving just the hits as the repeated songs.
The tracker tour and the privateering tour were so similar, despite the fact that 5 songs from Tracker were played, even the surprising add of "Your latest trick" or "On every street", the skeleton of the setlist was so similar that it was almost the same.
If you play 20 songs in a concert, for example, change 12 of that songs, and leave 8 hits between DS and MK solo career, change that from tour to tour, and that would be perfect.
But to play different songs from one show to the next, like Springsteen does.. It's not fair. Some years ago I went to see Springsteen to Madrid, and was a great show, but two days after, he played Bilbao and changed almost half of the songs, songs that I liked more than the ones I listened to in Madrid. Luck for Bilbao fans, bad luck for Madrid fans that wanted to listen some of the songs people from Bilbao heard, and maybe the other way around. That's not fair.
100% agree.
The LOG tour which is in many fans heart one of o the best in DS/MK history had the most static setlist in his whole career. Only It never rains was dropped after some months, but all the rest of the setlist remained exactly the same until the end of the tour, and I bet that the experience to attend one of these gigs was outstanding.
I don't want different setlists during a tour, because I don't want to miss some songs, (and people who go to different gigs in a tour are a minority) but of course I want different songs than the last tour !
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I'm 50% with you there. I agree that the show must have a group of songs that should be played every evening throughout the tour. However, in my opinion the other songs can be changed from gig to gig without affecting the experience. I don't wanna go to a concert knowing exactly which songs are going to be performed, that's boring. At the end of the day 20 songs are 20 songs.
you don't have to know the setlist before going to the concert.
of course it's hard nowadays, but if you don't read forums, social networks etc... you can go to the gig without knowing anything
I did that in 2010 : 2 months without read Guy's forum or AMIT before going to the gig, because in 2001 MKnews provided setlists, and it's one of my big regrets in my DS/MK fan life : knowing the songs before the gig starts
2005 was easy because I went to one of early gigs in the tour (so it was something like one week without reading anything), but 2010 was harder because I went to a gig at the middle/end of the tour
okay, since 2010, you know songs that will be played, even if you live in a cavern :lol
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During Privateering tour I did a big effort to not know the setlist until the first usb arrived and listen to it for the first time and discover in that listening the songs, and the day before I dont know where I read they were playing "father and son" linked with Hill Farmer Blues :(
It's really difficult, the only way is go to the first concert, if you can.
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During Privateering tour I did a big effort to not know the setlist until the first usb arrived and listen to it for the first time and discover in that listening the songs, and the day before I dont know where I read they were playing "father and son" linked with Hill Farmer Blues :(
It's really difficult, the only way is go to the first concert, if you can.
Indeed, waiting for the first USB without being spoiled is a hard job nowadays. I succeeded to be unspoiled until the first USB with the Tracker tour.
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Guys, I don't think USBs and concerts are the same thing. If you say you don't want the setlist to change because you can only attend one show and finding out the setlist from another evening was better than the one you got bothers you, I can see your point. I have a different opinion, but I can put myself in your shoes and kind of understand you. However, you can easily get as many recordings as you want these days so do you really want them all to be the same? That I cannot understand...
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Guys, I don't think USBs and concerts are the same thing. If you say you don't want the setlist to change because you can only attend one show and finding out the setlist from another evening was better than the one you got bothers you, I can see your point. I have a different opinion, but I can put myself in your shoes and kind of understand you. However, you can easily get as many recordings as you want these days so do you really want them all to be the same? That I cannot understand...
Fans...
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In the ongoing discussion around setlists, Id heard a petition mentioned.....
Likely to be tongue in cheek, but should someone ACTUALLY put a petition together requesting a setlist revamp, could they also include MK tours to new territories.....ie the Southern Hemisphere? MK hasn't ventured south since 2005 - its high time he stretched the tour to include South America, Australia and New Zealand.
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In the ongoing discussion around setlists, Id heard a petition mentioned.....
Likely to be tongue in cheek, but should someone ACTUALLY put a petition together requesting a setlist revamp, could they also include MK tours to new territories.....ie the Southern Hemisphere? MK hasn't ventured south since 2005 - its high time he stretched the tour to include South America, Australia and New Zealand.
This petition should really be made to local promoters. They are the ones asking the bands to come and play, the bands made their economical request and then the promoters go ahead or refused it.
I recall that some of the 2005 concerts were not sold out and probably the local promoters weren't happy or losed money so that's why they never tried again.
Same goes from South America I guess.
Yes, the band have a say, that say depends on if they can add those dates in their schedule. If they can, then the ball is in the promoters roof.
Guy always says he would like to go back to South America and Australia again, but it's not in his hands.
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I know for a fact Mark's management has been contacted several times by brazilian promoters and the demands were absolutely ridiculous. He doesn't wanna come so the easiest way out is to make it look impossible, that's my understanding based on what I heard here.
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I know for a fact Mark's management has been contacted several times by brazilian promoters and the demands were absolutely ridiculous. He doesn't wanna come so the easiest way out is to make it look impossible, that's my understanding based on what I heard here.
Absolutely ridiculous?
MK tours many places in North America and Europe, in Spain, for example, they play about five or six concerts sometimes in cities where it's not that common or rare someone like MK plays there so, the demands to play in South America are ridiculous but to play NA or Europe, their demands are more normal?
Actually, the Spanish promoter said in an interview once that MK and his manager are not more difficult on their demands that any other artist, in the contrary. And some big names goes to play to Brazil...
Maybe is just is too expensive for MK and their band to travel to certain places, hence the demands... but, other big names plays in Brazil so...
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I know for a fact Mark's management has been contacted several times by brazilian promoters and the demands were absolutely ridiculous. He doesn't wanna come so the easiest way out is to make it look impossible, that's my understanding based on what I heard here.
Absolutely ridiculous?
MK tours many places in North America and Europe, in Spain, for example, they play about five or six concerts sometimes in cities where it's not that common or rare someone like MK plays there so, the demands to play in South America are ridiculous but to play NA or Europe, their demands are more normal?
Actually, the Spanish promoter said in an interview once that MK and his manager are not more difficult on their demands that any other artist, in the contrary. And some big names goes to play to Brazil...
Maybe is just is too expensive for MK and their band to travel to certain places, hence the demands... but, other big names plays in Brazil so...
When I say demands I don't mean 1000 black towels or fancy french mineral water, it's more about money, logistics and so on. Artists know that due to our weak currency and economic issues bringing them over is a huge effort so they tend to lower their demands in order to make it viable. Why do they do it? Because they really wanna come and play here - and of course they still make shit loads of money anyway.
A MK tour here would get sold out within days, DS was a big deal in Brazil back in the day. Mark doesn't come because he's not willing to make the same effort that Clapton, Stewart, Cocker, Sting and many others made over the last 10 years or so... he's happy with his Europe/North America bubble.
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How many copies of Tracker were sold in Brazil, Argentina, Mexico or Chili ? MK don't sell there.
But in Germany yes, so he played 12 shows. In France, sales has declined for ten years and the number of shows too.
No sales = no concerts.
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I could prove you wrong in about 17 different ways but I can’t be bothered right now.
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How many copies of Tracker were sold in Brazil, Argentina, Mexico or Chili ? MK don't sell there.
But in Germany yes, so he played 12 shows. In France, sales has declined for ten years and the number of shows too.
No sales = no concerts.
Dire Straits Legends sales in Brazil must be biggest as hell as they fill their concerts there.
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How many copies of Tracker were sold in Brazil, Argentina, Mexico or Chili ? MK don't sell there.
But in Germany yes, so he played 12 shows. In France, sales has declined for ten years and the number of shows too.
No sales = no concerts.
Dire Straits Legends sales in Brazil must be biggest as hell as they fill their concerts there.
I don't see the link with Mark Knopfler, Privateering, Tracker etc. sorry.
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How many copies of Tracker were sold in Brazil, Argentina, Mexico or Chili ? MK don't sell there.
But in Germany yes, so he played 12 shows. In France, sales has declined for ten years and the number of shows too.
No sales = no concerts.
Dire Straits Legends sales in Brazil must be biggest as hell as they fill their concerts there.
I don't see the link with Mark Knopfler, Privateering, Tracker etc. sorry.
Record sales and ticket sales are not linked at all.
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How many copies of Tracker were sold in Brazil, Argentina, Mexico or Chili ? MK don't sell there.
But in Germany yes, so he played 12 shows. In France, sales has declined for ten years and the number of shows too.
No sales = no concerts.
Dire Straits Legends sales in Brazil must be biggest as hell as they fill their concerts there.
That was one of them, 16 to go lol
Any MK concert in Brazil would be sold out as they all were back in 2001. Album sales in Brazil means nothing. Paul McCartney, Roger Waters and Eric Clapton sell very little here but their tours were extremely successful. That logic might make sense in some countries but not in mine.