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Mark Knopfler Discussion => One Deep River / The Boy => Topic started by: jbaent on January 30, 2024, 11:57:40 AM

Title: (12) One deep river
Post by: jbaent on January 30, 2024, 11:57:40 AM
One Deep River   4:17

Now the highway is sleeping
The plains are still
The steel rails are silent
Sun's going down behind the hills
And the night comes falling
With the evening star
Wherever you're going
Wherever you are

You are one deep river, old friend
One deep river, amen
You're one deep river, old friend
One deep river, amen

The wild geese are flying
Into the west
And your soul is heading
To its rest
But your light will keep on burning
Like that evening star
And your song will keep returning
Wherever you are

You are one deep river, old friend
One deep river, amen
You're one deep river, old friend
One deep river, amen
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Robson on January 30, 2024, 11:59:51 AM
You are one deep river, old friend
One deep river, amen
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: jbaent on January 30, 2024, 12:04:56 PM
“Crossing the Tyne is always on your mind,” he says. “It’s what you were doing when you were leaving as a youngster and that feeling is always the same every time you do it. You’re heading out or you’re coming back, and it just connects with your childhood. The power of it doesn’t go away.” 
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Love Expresso on February 12, 2024, 08:25:57 PM
Man, those snippets in that video pt.1 sound sooo nice. Such a nice melody, his voice so beautiful .. I really can't wait to hear the full track. The backing vocals seem to sing that "amen", right?

I wonder if it will have a proper playing-out at the end, an outro, even a solo, if it will be faded out and and and...

LE
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Stanko on February 18, 2024, 06:32:25 PM
When you cross the bridge you don't know if you are going or leaving home
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Solid Rock on April 09, 2024, 09:31:17 PM
One Deep River is the Real Deal! One of the best songs of latest albums in my opinion. - it’s almost o gospel song! And recognition from 'my claime to flame - railroad worksong' with a beautiful deep clean voice! Tomorrow I will write an extensive review! Now just listen to everything quietly.
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Dutchessy on April 09, 2024, 11:39:12 PM
Fits easily with Marks best solo stuff.
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: jbaent on April 10, 2024, 09:50:07 AM
I still don't understand the lyrics well but I'm not sure he's talking about the Tyne at all...  :think
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Silvertown on April 10, 2024, 11:26:58 AM
Oh, how much I am waiting to hear this and other songs! I guess this one is more personal for MK than many others. Especially if it is just not about the river. What do you think?
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Love Expresso on April 10, 2024, 12:17:03 PM
To me it seems like the river stands for a constant in your life, like the beacon of hope or the light in the  dark in  In The Sky. To Mark, the Tyne is this constant. It can also be a person, the one you love or you look up to, or your inspiration.  The thing or the one that keeps you going.

Soundwise it indeed has something from Follow The Ribbon and I detect some If This Is Goodbye in it. But much better than both those songs.

LE
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Dutchessy on April 10, 2024, 05:16:10 PM
This song reminds me somehow of Forever Young with Dylan in 2011. Especially the 2nd part (2min - 2.35). It's imo a bit similar to the parts MK is singing in Forever Young.
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: dmg on April 10, 2024, 06:11:33 PM
Wish it had a bit more punch.  Mark is really holding back on this one and it has so much potential.  Such a disappointment when Greg takes over the solo at the end.  I nearly cried.
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Banjo99uk on April 10, 2024, 06:43:35 PM
Wish it had a bit more punch.  Mark is really holding back on this one and it has so much potential.  Such a disappointment when Greg takes over the solo at the end.  I nearly cried.
I agree with that, it’s got the melody just not the punch. A shame.
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Knopflerfan on April 10, 2024, 10:33:04 PM
Wish it had a bit more punch.  Mark is really holding back on this one and it has so much potential.  Such a disappointment when Greg takes over the solo at the end.  I nearly cried.
I agree with that, it’s got the melody just not the punch. A shame.

As if the master is holding back....
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: K-alberto on April 10, 2024, 11:04:45 PM
Should I find a minus in this song, which for me is one of the best in his career, is that... it ends too early. Could have gone on and leave us with that everlasting feeling... Yes, at a certain point it could start with a proper, ludicrious solo, but it's ok for me with all those licks that flow with the music.

Do you know what song makes me think of?
Forever young, Bob Dylan.
Just to say, the magnificence of this song ;-)
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Knopflerfan on April 11, 2024, 12:03:56 AM
Should I find a minus in this song, which for me is one of the best in his career, is that... it ends too early. Could have gone on and leave us with that everlasting feeling... Yes, at a certain point it could start with a proper, ludicrious solo, but it's ok for me with all those licks that flow with the music.

Do you know what song makes me think of?
Forever young, Bob Dylan.
Just to say, the magnificence of this song ;-)

Good call with forever young! I love One Deep River but like you ends far too soon....another tearjerker of a track
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Dutchessy on April 11, 2024, 12:20:46 AM
Hey i said that already some posts above K-Alberto that it reminded me of forever young. I am not the only one it seems.
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: K-alberto on April 11, 2024, 07:51:46 AM
Hey i said that already some posts above K-Alberto that it reminded me of forever young. I am not the only one it seems.

Yep!!!  :o I had tried not to read too much before having a listen
Thanks Dutchessy!!!  :)
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: jbaent on April 11, 2024, 07:52:52 AM
You are a one deep river... that lines makes me remember that conversation about the gramatically thing using "One deep river" instead of "A deep river", which makes me think this song is not really about the Tyne but about a person which is strong or good like a river that is deep, so, a lot!
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Knopflerfan on April 11, 2024, 08:13:58 AM
You are a one deep river... that lines makes me remember that conversation about the gramatically thing using "One deep river" instead of "A deep river", which makes me think this song is not really about the Tyne but about a person which is strong or good like a river that is deep, so, a lot!

MK is most definitely alluding to the Tyne in those lyrics....
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: jbaent on April 11, 2024, 08:17:20 AM
You are a one deep river... that lines makes me remember that conversation about the gramatically thing using "One deep river" instead of "A deep river", which makes me think this song is not really about the Tyne but about a person which is strong or good like a river that is deep, so, a lot!

MK is most definitely alluding to the Tyne in those lyrics....

I don't understand the lyrics line by line but the little I got made me think he's talking about/to someone.

If anyone could transcribe the lyrics it would be great, if not, maybe the official website would release them tomorrow, hopefully.
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Knopflerfan on April 11, 2024, 08:29:48 AM
You are a one deep river... that lines makes me remember that conversation about the gramatically thing using "One deep river" instead of "A deep river", which makes me think this song is not really about the Tyne but about a person which is strong or good like a river that is deep, so, a lot!

MK is most definitely alluding to the Tyne in those lyrics....

I don't understand the lyrics line by line but the little I got made me think he's talking about/to someone.

If anyone could transcribe the lyrics it would be great, if not, maybe the official website would release them tomorrow, hopefully.

I guess like with most MK songs, they go off and have a life of their own. One can interpret the words any which way but to me he is reminiscing about Newcastle and the Tyne but alternatively one could think he is singing about someone....
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: TommyJ88 on April 11, 2024, 11:58:45 AM
Beautiful, beautiful song—musically and lyrically. In my opinion, this (along with several others on the album) happily sits on the top shelf with the rest of Mark’s very best material.
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: jbaent on April 12, 2024, 08:19:11 AM
You are a one deep river... that lines makes me remember that conversation about the gramatically thing using "One deep river" instead of "A deep river", which makes me think this song is not really about the Tyne but about a person which is strong or good like a river that is deep, so, a lot!

MK is most definitely alluding to the Tyne in those lyrics....

After reading the lyrics, yes you're right, he seems to be describing landscapes of Newcastle...
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Knopflerfan on April 12, 2024, 11:05:22 AM
You are a one deep river... that lines makes me remember that conversation about the gramatically thing using "One deep river" instead of "A deep river", which makes me think this song is not really about the Tyne but about a person which is strong or good like a river that is deep, so, a lot!

MK is most definitely alluding to the Tyne in those lyrics....

After reading the lyrics, yes you're right, he seems to be describing landscapes of Newcastle...

'Wherever you're going, wherever you are' is to me the Tyne flowing...

Truly an MK classic....
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: jbaent on April 12, 2024, 11:06:31 AM
You are a one deep river... that lines makes me remember that conversation about the gramatically thing using "One deep river" instead of "A deep river", which makes me think this song is not really about the Tyne but about a person which is strong or good like a river that is deep, so, a lot!

MK is most definitely alluding to the Tyne in those lyrics....

After reading the lyrics, yes you're right, he seems to be describing landscapes of Newcastle...

Truly an MK classic....

Actually there is nothing that makes you think he talks about Newcastle further than the picture of the cover, LOL
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Knopflerfan on April 12, 2024, 11:07:32 AM
You are a one deep river... that lines makes me remember that conversation about the gramatically thing using "One deep river" instead of "A deep river", which makes me think this song is not really about the Tyne but about a person which is strong or good like a river that is deep, so, a lot!

MK is most definitely alluding to the Tyne in those lyrics....

After reading the lyrics, yes you're right, he seems to be describing landscapes of Newcastle...

Truly an MK classic....

Actually there is nothing that makes you think he talks about Newcastle further than the picture of the cover, LOL

Very true!!
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: stratmad on April 12, 2024, 08:56:29 PM
For me this is the most intense song on this album, on a par with Brothers in Arms.
I couldn't help thinking that it's a funeral song, from a friend to a friend who's passed away. Chet? Brendan? Tina? It could be so many others.
But in spite of that, for me it's a happy, peaceful song, because of the gospel music and the way he sings it - full of love and a positive perspective. That's what I admire Mark for!
 
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Brunno Nunes on April 13, 2024, 02:38:39 AM
For me, in my semantic universe, Mark Knopfler is the deep river of the song, listening and reading the lyrics, it's like a meaningful farewell. The day he leaves, I will listen to this song and it will take on an even deeper meaning for me. May this day take a long time to arrive! (Needless to say, this song touched me in a strong way!)
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Knopflerfan on April 13, 2024, 08:40:28 AM
For me, in my semantic universe, Mark Knopfler is the deep river of the song, listening and reading the lyrics, it's like a meaningful farewell. The day he leaves, I will listen to this song and it will take on an even deeper meaning for me. May this day take a long time to arrive! (Needless to say, this song touched me in a strong way!)

Great interpretation and wholeheartedly agree. One very powerful song!
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: stratmad on April 13, 2024, 03:41:56 PM
Hmmm. It'll certainly take on that meaning for us fans one day.

But still I can't imagine Mark writing his OWN "goodbye" song from the perspective of someone else. That would be a very odd thing for anyone to do, wouldn't it?
Besides, if that were the case, he'd also be singing his own praise (his "light would keep on burning", his "song would keep returning"), which for me just isn't compatible with the Mark that we (think we) know.
On top of that, he says he wants to make a few more albums, so for me it's not a swan song, but a goodbye song to someone.

From my end, it's clear that the character in the song is addressing someone else, whose "soul is heading to its rest", and it's their "light that will keep on burning", and their "song that will keep returning", not his own.
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: Stanko on April 14, 2024, 08:23:39 PM
You are a one deep river... that lines makes me remember that conversation about the gramatically thing using "One deep river" instead of "A deep river", which makes me think this song is not really about the Tyne but about a person which is strong or good like a river that is deep, so, a lot!

MK is most definitely alluding to the Tyne in those lyrics....

After reading the lyrics, yes you're right, he seems to be describing landscapes of Newcastle...

Truly an MK classic....

Actually there is nothing that makes you think he talks about Newcastle further than the picture of the cover, LOL

Very true!!
Yes but not if you're into all songs
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: ingridswing on April 14, 2024, 11:09:54 PM
One deep river…. Can’t stop listening to it. So far my favorite but it can change. It always changes from time to time
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: dustyvalentino on April 15, 2024, 03:33:19 PM
Don't think anyone has mentioned yet that the melody of the phrase One Deep River seems to be pretty similar to the old song Old Man River?
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: bobfan on April 16, 2024, 03:49:00 PM
Don't think anyone has mentioned yet that the melody of the phrase One Deep River seems to be pretty similar to the old song Old Man River?

I do think it sounds like ‘Follow The Ribbon’ in parts, and that song sounds like ‘Old Man River’ in parts to my ears…
Title: Re: (12) One deep river
Post by: garibaldi on April 26, 2024, 01:33:30 PM
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I couldn't help thinking that it's a funeral song, from a friend to a friend who's passed away. Chet? Brendan? Tina? It could be so many others.

Yes, I was wondering if he's talking about someone specifically, maybe Chet? The neat thing is you can listen to the lyrics at multiple levels simultaneously - e.g. it can both be about the River Tyne as well as a lost friend at the same time