A Mark In Time

Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: zeusjazmin on November 21, 2018, 08:48:38 PM

Title: verdict?
Post by: zeusjazmin on November 21, 2018, 08:48:38 PM
where does the new album rank with all the other solo albums? my top 3 are,get lucky,our Shangri la and golden heart.
Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: dmg on November 21, 2018, 09:03:36 PM
I initially thought it was 2nd only to STP but the initial novelty has worn off and there are a few tracks I just don't like and all three bonus songs are among my favourites.  Quite sad really that the songs were there so it had the potential to be right up there.  Still rate this album highly though, much better than the last couple.

He should've scrapped these for the three bonus songs:

Just a boy
When you leave
Floating away
Slow learner
Heavy up
Rear view mirror
Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: PensaGhost on November 21, 2018, 09:15:37 PM
1st row   STP + Get Lucky
2nd row  Down the road, Golden heart, Kill to get Crimson
3rd         all the others
Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: quizzaciously on November 21, 2018, 09:36:19 PM
Down The Road Wherever is all the way down for me as you've may expected. From the last 3 albums I like Tracker more.

The rest is history and I don't know how to rank it really... In terms of songs quality Shangri-La is probably my №1 ever. In terms of production also Shangri-La. The best photoshoot — Shangri-La. Man, if you come to think of it, it's the best Mark's album ever and it has a song which Bob Dylan called his favourite Mark's song. Enough said...
Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: Love Expresso on November 21, 2018, 09:37:07 PM
Way too early for me to answer that. I need at least some months. Privateering for example was very high in my ranking but has totally lost since then. The other older ones are much too beloved to rank them.
Golden Heart is very far away.
I try nevertheless:


                      STP     RPD     
                         Tracker

                      Shangri-La
 
                          DTRW   
                             GL

 
                     Privateeting

                      KTGC      GH


LE
Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: herlock on November 21, 2018, 09:53:19 PM
Down The Road Wherever is all the way down for me as you've may expected. From the last 3 albums I like Tracker more.

The rest is history and I don't know how to rank it really... In terms of songs quality Shangri-La is probably my №1 ever. In terms of production also Shangri-La. The best photoshoot — Shangri-La. Man, if you come to think of it, it's the best Mark's album ever and it has a song which Bob Dylan called his favourite Mark's song. Enough said...
Funnily enough, we have opposite tastes. Shangri-La is my least favorite, although I love it (this is a MK album !). But it find it too dry, lacking the emotion of TRD. Of course it has some brillant songs, like BLT, 5.15am and Postcards !
And I really love DTRW. I would rank it above GL, because of its diversity and also for OSAAT, that might be his greatest solo song: Border Reiver is great as a catchy opener; Piper to the End is great as an emotional closer. OSAAT has the genius to perfectly blend them together: both catchy and emotional, great opener or closer, with clever and touching lyrics about Mark's debuts. Absolutely brilliant. So I would rank as follows:
STP
TRD
DTRW
GL
P
GH
Tracker
KTKC
SL
Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: neco on November 21, 2018, 09:56:47 PM
It is hard to rank albums because there are songs on each of them that i would not want to miss.. but right now without overthinking the decisions i would say:

1. Down the road wherever
2. Get Lucky, Privateering
3. Shangri-La, Ragpickers dream
Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: straitsway75 on November 21, 2018, 10:58:02 PM
1) STP GH SH GH DTRW TRPD TRACKER PRIVATEERING
2)
3) KTGC

mean that all albums has something special, ktgc some track, but I try to to a greatest hits 20 tracks

01 WHAT IT IS
02 TRAPPER MAN
03 WHY AYE MAN
04 0515am
05 THE LAST LAUGH
06 GET LUCKY
07 A NIGHT IN SUMMER LONG AGO
08 DREAM OF DROWNED SUBMARINER
09 FOLLOW THE RIBBON
10 SPEEEDWAY AT NAZARETH
11 SO FAR FROM THE CLYDE
12 DON'T SUCK ME IN
13 RUDIGER
14 TRAWERLMANS SONG
15 SAILING TO PHILADELPHIA
16 LIGHTS OF TAORMINA
17 ARE WE IN TROUBLE NOW
18 OLD PIGWEED
19 PIPER TO THE END
20 ONE SONG AT A TIME

....sure that who never listen Mark, will run to buy his whole discography  :P
Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: Knopflerfan on November 21, 2018, 11:40:55 PM
DTRW - is still a goodun in my eyes... So..

1) STP
2) GL
3) DTRW
4) GH
5) SH
6) Tracker
7) KTGC
8) TRD
9) Privateering
Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: rmarques821 on November 22, 2018, 01:04:17 AM
1 - Golden Heart
2 - Privateering
3 - Sailing to Philadelphia
4 - Tracker
5 - Down The Road Wherever
6 - Shangri-La
7 - Get Lucky
8 - The Ragpicker's Dream
9 - Kill To Get Crimson
Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: Stiglar on November 22, 2018, 02:55:58 AM
Great Question! I've had a few listens now and I'm really likign this new record, it's pretty up there for me but in the list it woudl go something like this:


Shangri La - I think this is my favourite songwriting record...
STP - The most DS like of the Solo Records I think? Was I write in remembering there was rumours of a DS reunion around this time?
DTRW/Tracker - to me these last 2 records have been really great, will be interesting to see how DTRW stands up to the test of time for me.

Then .... Everything else with GH being top of that list, there are songs I love on all the records though :)
Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: superval99 on November 22, 2018, 07:38:10 AM
I like DTRW but other albums please me much more.

1   Tracker
2   RPD
3   Privateering
4   DTRW
5   Golden Heart
6   Shangri-La
7   Get Lucky
8   STP
9   Kill to Get Crimson

Difficult, because I like songs from every album.   There are songs on DTRW that I am tiring of already and I am reaching for the skip button more often, especially Slow Learner, whereas for Tracker I just listen all the way through and never tire of listening - that's my yardstick!  :)

Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: GIUMK on November 22, 2018, 08:23:43 AM
1-DTRW
2-STP
3-GH
4-SL
5-Tracker
6-GL
7-Privateering
8-RPD
9-KTGC
Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: Eddie Fox on November 22, 2018, 12:48:35 PM
1- Sailing to Philadelphia  :clap
2- Down the Road Wherever, Golden Heart and Shangri-La  ;D
5- Tracker, Privateering and Get Lucky  ;)
8- The Ragpicker's Dream  :think
9- Kill to Get Crimson  :disbelief

The very only one I never ever revisit is KTGC. TRD gets a listen every second year or so. All the others are on the top of my list, I love saying hi to them every now and then.
Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: PensaGhost on November 22, 2018, 01:39:47 PM
1- Sailing to Philadelphia  :clap
2- Down the Road Wherever, Golden Heart and Shangri-La  ;D
5- Tracker, Privateering and Get Lucky  ;)
8- The Ragpicker's Dream  :think
9- Kill to Get Crimson  :disbelief

The very only one I never ever revisit is KTGC. TRD gets a listen every second year or so. All the others are on the top of my list, I love saying hi to them every now and then.

I like KTGC pretty much. I think many people don't like it because it's the farthest from DS sounds (and I do agree with that) but when you concentrate only on the melodies I think basically all are nice and interesting.
Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: ruipedro on November 22, 2018, 04:03:31 PM
1-DOWN THE ROAD WHEREVER
2-TRACKER
3-GET LUCKY
4-SAILING TO PHILADELPHIA
5-SHANGRI-LA
6-GOLDEN HEART
7-KILL TO GET CRIMSON
8-PRIVATEERING
9-THE RAGPICKER´S DREAM
 :clap :clap :clap :wave :wave
Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: Eddie Fox on November 22, 2018, 05:39:19 PM
1- Sailing to Philadelphia  :clap
2- Down the Road Wherever, Golden Heart and Shangri-La  ;D
5- Tracker, Privateering and Get Lucky  ;)
8- The Ragpicker's Dream  :think
9- Kill to Get Crimson  :disbelief

The very only one I never ever revisit is KTGC. TRD gets a listen every second year or so. All the others are on the top of my list, I love saying hi to them every now and then.

I like KTGC pretty much. I think many people don't like it because it's the farthest from DS sounds (and I do agree with that) but when you concentrate only on the melodies I think basically all are nice and interesting.

Not my cuppa tea at all, that's all. I like lots of things that sound nothing like DS. I just find it boring, repetitive and bland.
Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: milicz on November 22, 2018, 06:25:45 PM
This is a hard one since I really enjoy almost all the albums and listen to all of them (except for one), I don't think I can rank the albums, although tiers work for me.   I would put Down the Road Wherever in Tier 2 or 3 for me, right now I'm leaning towards 2, but I will know better in a couple months.

Tier 1
Sailing to Philadelphia

Tier 2
Ragpickers Dream
Shangri-La
Privateering

Tier 3
Get Lucky
Kill to Get Crimson
Tracker

Tier 17
Golden Heart
Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: rockaway on November 23, 2018, 05:33:35 PM
I just listened to them all mostly through to figure this out, still a tentative ranking as I tend to change my mind every time re-listen to them

1) Tracker, Down the Road Wherever, and Sailing to Philadelphia
2) The Ragpicker's Dream, Privateering, and Get Lucky
3) Golden Heart, Kill to Get Crimson, Shangri-La

I love DTRW, guess I'll see how it stands over time, but it's at the top of my list now. Drover's Road is one of my favorite songs now, OSAAT is wonderful, Matchstick Man is a more autobiographical version of Heart of Oak which I love. Thrilled with DTRW overall, it's a wonderful new album. And It's gotten my dad, who hasn't paid attention to MK since a few popular songs in the DS days and hasn't listened to his solo stuff, to start listening (first I introduced him to Sailing to Philadelphia which he also liked, but he loves this one)

Even the bottom tier here doesn't mean I don't like the albums, just a bit less than others. Although KTGC I don't listen to much besides In the Sky. Shangri-La I didn't like after a couple listens and just listened to it again and now I like it more... I guess I just had to turn the volume up, go figure  :)


Title: Re: verdict?
Post by: Robson on November 23, 2018, 08:17:01 PM
It's too difficult for me. I'm afraid to write number one  :)