A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => One Deep River / The Boy => Topic started by: border_reiver on January 23, 2024, 11:38:03 PM
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To keep spoilers separate. Go ahead! ;)
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One Deep River
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Wow! Beautiful! If there is a cover and title do we know the release date?
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My Google search has a 7 and a dot.
Can't be the EP any longer
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Interesting album cover. Looks like some's just photoshopped a red sky onto their shot. Still, it's quite nice and I've always loved the High Level Bridge which I think may have a bearing on one or two of the tracks judging by their titles.
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Album cover is just stunning!
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I see dot 7 ;D
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Additional information thanks to Google webcache (https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jK4UnJAzsGgJ:https://shop.markknopfler.com/product/mark-knopfler-one-deep-river-cd-us/) :
Cover + CD:
https://shop.markknopfler.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/MK_ODR_CD.png
Mark Knopfler’s tenth solo studio album in standard CD format featuring mint pack with 16 page commemorative booklet.
Tracklisting:
1. Two Pairs Of Hands
2. Ahead Of The Game
3. Smart Money
4. Scavengers Yard
5. Black Tie Jobs
6. Tunnel 13
7. Janine
8. Watch Me Gone
9. Sweeter Than The Rain
10. Before My Train Comes
11. This One’s Not Going To End Well
12. One Deep River
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Nice find! :clap
Oh the excitement :D
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^ amazing find! I should have been clearer initially that Google only showed the first six tracks and that there was an indication of at least a 7th..
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Additional information thanks to Google webcache (https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jK4UnJAzsGgJ:https://shop.markknopfler.com/product/mark-knopfler-one-deep-river-cd-us/) :
Cover + CD:
https://shop.markknopfler.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/MK_ODR_CD.png
Mark Knopfler’s tenth solo studio album in standard CD format featuring mint pack with 16 page commemorative booklet.
Tracklisting:
1. Two Pairs Of Hands
2. Ahead Of The Game
3. Smart Money
4. Scavengers Yard
5. Black Tie Jobs
6. Tunnel 13
7. Janine
8. Watch Me Gone
9. Sweeter Than The Rain
10. Before My Train Comes
11. This One’s Not Going To End Well
12. One Deep River
Good find - thankyou
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Seeing that the title track is the last one (and keeping in mind that this COULD be his last album) together with this really epic title let my expectation for this song grow in not so healthy dimensions. I expect nothing more than a long and moving masterpiece. "Before My Train Comes" might have Piper To The End vibes, it sounds like a song about getting old/dying, aaah I love to speculate in this very first time after the titles leaked. 12 songs on the standard, that is very fine with me. The cover and the album title is so strong that I forgot to be sad about that it is not a double album (after all those years..)
LE
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Additional information thanks to Google webcache (https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jK4UnJAzsGgJ:https://shop.markknopfler.com/product/mark-knopfler-one-deep-river-cd-us/) :
Cover + CD:
https://shop.markknopfler.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/MK_ODR_CD.png
Mark Knopfler’s tenth solo studio album in standard CD format featuring mint pack with 16 page commemorative booklet.
Tracklisting:
1. Two Pairs Of Hands
2. Ahead Of The Game
3. Smart Money
4. Scavengers Yard
5. Black Tie Jobs
6. Tunnel 13
7. Janine
8. Watch Me Gone
9. Sweeter Than The Rain
10. Before My Train Comes
11. This One’s Not Going To End Well
12. One Deep River
Thank you for the great news :thumbsup Still no release date
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The sky colour was there already on his last boxset...
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"I love to speculate in this very first time after the titles leaked"
Me too :)
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Back in the day, TR mailing list. Then, and still, AMIT.
Always first with the latest, always ahead.
So proud. 8)
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The cover and the album title is so strong that I forgot to be sad about that it is not a double album (after all those years..)
LE
The Deluxe, the EP and of course the hidden digital release in Germany will get to there :)
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Back in the day, TR mailing list. Then, and still, AMIT.
Always first with the latest, always ahead.
So proud. 8)
What do you expect? We are a bunch of Get-A-Lifers after all.. .
LE
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Back in the day, TR mailing list. Then, and still, AMIT.
Always first with the latest, always ahead.
So proud. 8)
What do you expect? We are a bunch of Get-A-Lifers after all.. .
LE
Indeed we are!
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Apparently, the cover is a stock image from Shutterstock taken in 2019: https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/tyne-bridge-lit-dusk-newcastle-england-1407951992
And it's even more asymmetrical on the CD cover. Yikes! I know not everybody's into symmetry, but I don't know why it triggers me so much. Especially this black piece hanging on the right. Ouch... It hurts! Not the first time they used a stock image, I think Sailing To Philadelphia was also a Shutterstock image.
At least Mark is consistent with triggering me with cover pictures time after time again, that means music should be on the same level of awesomeness :lol
Nothing changes.
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Apparently, the cover is a stock image from Shutterstock taken in 2019: https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/tyne-bridge-lit-dusk-newcastle-england-1407951992
And it's even more asymmetrical on the CD cover. Yikes! I know not everybody's into symmetry, but I don't know why it triggers me so much. Especially this black piece hanging on the right. Ouch... It hurts! Not the first time they used a stock image, I think Sailing To Philadelphia was also a Shutterstock image.
At least Mark is consistent with triggering me with cover pictures time after time again, that means music should be on the same level of awesomeness :lol
Nothing changes.
LOL
Then I suppose you love the seagull on the left side?. ;D
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https://www.ohs.org/blog/tragedy-at-tunnel-13.cfm
Not a tunnel of love :)
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Apparently, the cover is a stock image from Shutterstock taken in 2019: https://www.shutterstock.com/image-photo/tyne-bridge-lit-dusk-newcastle-england-1407951992
And it's even more asymmetrical on the CD cover. Yikes! I know not everybody's into symmetry, but I don't know why it triggers me so much. Especially this black piece hanging on the right. Ouch... It hurts! Not the first time they used a stock image, I think Sailing To Philadelphia was also a Shutterstock image.
At least Mark is consistent with triggering me with cover pictures time after time again, that means music should be on the same level of awesomeness :lol
Nothing changes.
LOL
Then I suppose you love the seagull on the left side?. ;D
Two, actually! These birds help you to be 100% sure it's the exact photo used as they both remain on the "final" cover. How final it is we don't know, I remember the Tracker cover changing dramatically after the leak. If this reads anyone who's in charge of design, PLEASE, FOR MARK'S SAKE, move the bridge a few dozen pixels to the right! Thank you!
UPD: I believe Get Lucky also was a stock image of this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Fremont_Hotel_and_Casino
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If this reads anyone who's in charge of design, PLEASE, FOR MARK'S SAKE, move the bridge a few dozen pixels to the right! Thank you!
Sorry but this is ridiculous! It's nature, a real bridge in a natural environment and not a graphic, it SHOULD be not 100% symmetric. Next level design, you know?
LE
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What were the titles from the (bonus) tracks that Christie's gave us?
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https://www.ohs.org/blog/tragedy-at-tunnel-13.cfm
Not a tunnel of love :)
...In reality, this botched robbery led to the death of four innocent men and the birth of American forensic science...
Mark returns to crime topics. How it all began (Shangr-La album - first song)
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What were the titles from the (bonus) tracks that Christie's gave us?
For Chance Dupree
The Living End
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Watch me gone
Smart Money
+ A dream or two (Privateering sessions unreleased)
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Someone on FB says 12 april...
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If this reads anyone who's in charge of design, PLEASE, FOR MARK'S SAKE, move the bridge a few dozen pixels to the right! Thank you!
Sorry but this is ridiculous! It's nature, a real bridge in a natural environment and not a graphic, it SHOULD be not 100% symmetric. Next level design, you know?
LE
From when a digitally enhanced real image of a bridge with an overly dramatic artificial sunset is a "natural environment"? If anything, this IS a graphic representing a dream of sorts, and this raises my brows even more. Just make it even, so it's even more dramatic. And as you can see, even the original photo is symmetrical, so they did it intentionally. I don't know, seems like the idea was to simply piss off the perfectionists, and if that was the goal, well done then :lol
Of course, I will be bombarded with negative answers as this is AMIT, so I'll calm down again and not spoil the fun of discovery for sensitive people. The cover picture is the least-best part about Mark's albums anyway, but I'm sure there'll be some surprises like this down the line.
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Someone on FB says 12 april...
:thumbsup
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First impressions:
Doesn't everyone think these are very atypical MK titles? I know that with him, titles can not really mean much and couldn't possibly suggest what the song is about or what it sounds like, but I feel we have something quite unique going on here. Many of the songs might probably resemble some of his old ones, which is usually the case. But it seems like a unique collection of titles.
So - soon we'll get to hear MK's newest work. Can't wait to see what kind of statement the master makes, it's been a very difficult last few years for the world with a lot of tragedies. Hopefully MK gives a new light of hope going forward with his latest collection of songs.
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I don't know why but I stopped longer at title 11.
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Disc 2:
1. The Living End
2. Fat Chance Dupree
3. Along A Foreign Coast
4. What I’m Gonna Need
5. Nothing But Rain
Bonus Vinyl Tracklist:
1. Dolly Shop Man
2. Your Leading Man
3. Wrong ’un
4. Chess
21 songs :)
April 12
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Ahead Of The Game is the first single.
A blu ray edition is being released.
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All formats on MK shop. 12th April
Incl. box set
https://shop.markknopfler.com
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Baby Blue vinyl!
https://shop.curiouscollectionstx.com/UPC/0602455095565
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If I order the Boxset there would be almost 70 Euro just for postage and fees! I hope there will be other ways to get this!
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If I order the Boxset there would be almost 70 Euro just for postage and fees! I hope there will be other ways to get this!
The official store is really poor with prices and delays in shipping.
Just wait for a few days/weeks and it'll be listed on all the usual sites.
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Additional information thanks to Google webcache (https://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:jK4UnJAzsGgJ:https://shop.markknopfler.com/product/mark-knopfler-one-deep-river-cd-us/) :
Cover + CD:
https://shop.markknopfler.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/MK_ODR_CD.png
Mark Knopfler’s tenth solo studio album in standard CD format featuring mint pack with 16 page commemorative booklet.
Tracklisting:
1. Two Pairs Of Hands
2. Ahead Of The Game
3. Smart Money
4. Scavengers Yard
5. Black Tie Jobs
6. Tunnel 13
7. Janine
8. Watch Me Gone
9. Sweeter Than The Rain
10. Before My Train Comes
11. This One’s Not Going To End Well
12. One Deep River
Commemorative. Hm.
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All formats on MK shop. 12th April
Incl. box set
https://shop.markknopfler.com
Including cassette!
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The cover photography is different in the bonus lp and cd in the boxset...
(https://shop.markknopfler.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/MK_ODR_BoxSet.png)
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And apparently the deluxe 2cd version includes aan atmos remix, as the case says Bluray disc, high fidelity pure audio, but the description says nothing about it...
Description
This product is for European stock to be sold to customers in Europe.
Deluxe 2CD Edition – Mint pack with 16pg Booklet
One Deep River offers an unstoppable flow of future Knopfler classics, with their customarily learned lyrics and refined guitar textures. They draw on a lifetime of genre-crossing ingredients and influences in blues, folk, rock and beyond, and as usual, reveal their charms with unhurried grace and depth.
Tracklist:
Disc 1:
1. Two Pairs Of Hands
2. Ahead Of The Game
3. Smart Money
4. Scavengers Yard
5. Black Tie Jobs
6. Tunnel 13
7. Janine
8. Watch Me Gone
9. Sweeter Than The Rain
10. Before My Train Comes
11. This One’s Not Going To End Well
12. One Deep River
Disc 2:
1. The Living End
2. Fat Chance Dupree
3. Along A Foreign Coast
4. What I’m Gonna Need
5. Nothing But Rain
(https://shop.markknopfler.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/MK_ODR_Bluray.png)
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Nearly £160 for the box, ouch.
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Nearly £160 for the box, ouch.
Tin is so expensive these days :lol
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And apparently the deluxe 2cd version includes aan atmos remix, as the case says Bluray disc, high fidelity pure audio, but the description says nothing about it...
Description
This product is for European stock to be sold to customers in Europe.
Deluxe 2CD Edition – Mint pack with 16pg Booklet
One Deep River offers an unstoppable flow of future Knopfler classics, with their customarily learned lyrics and refined guitar textures. They draw on a lifetime of genre-crossing ingredients and influences in blues, folk, rock and beyond, and as usual, reveal their charms with unhurried grace and depth.
Tracklist:
Disc 1:
1. Two Pairs Of Hands
2. Ahead Of The Game
3. Smart Money
4. Scavengers Yard
5. Black Tie Jobs
6. Tunnel 13
7. Janine
8. Watch Me Gone
9. Sweeter Than The Rain
10. Before My Train Comes
11. This One’s Not Going To End Well
12. One Deep River
Disc 2:
1. The Living End
2. Fat Chance Dupree
3. Along A Foreign Coast
4. What I’m Gonna Need
5. Nothing But Rain
(https://shop.markknopfler.com/wp-content/uploads/2024/01/MK_ODR_Bluray.png)
Apparently the blu ray is going to be exclusive to Paul's https://superdeluxeedition.com/ store.
He usually has an order period(a few weeks)but it isn't up on his site yet.
The usual price is £23 per disc which is pretty good value.
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I wonder if the EP is the bonus tracks lp in the box or is a separated thing...
I bet is a separated, as when they recorded the extra songs that are going to be in the EP, probably the record was closed, but who knows.
If it's a separated thing, there is going to be another announcement one of these days!
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Apparently the blu ray is going to be exclusive to Paul's https://superdeluxeedition.com/ store.
He usually has an order period(a few weeks)but it isn't up on his site yet.
The usual price is £23 per disc which is pretty good value.
It is in the MK site althought there is no mention of it being a bluray further than the picture of the package :hmm
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The Blu-PIcture could be a mistake (same as your observation about different (not symmetric!!) cover pictures, i guess they just made a bad job of copying the stuff into it. The items still don't exist so it's all made up.
Earlier someone posted about the single. Where did that info come from? Can't find anything about "Ahead Of The Game" being the first single.
LE
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The Blu-PIcture could be a mistake (same as your observation about different (not symmetric!!) cover pictures, i guess they just made a bad job of copying the stuff into it. The items still don't exist so it's all made up.
Earlier someone posted about the single. Where did that info come from? Can't find anything about "Ahead Of The Game" being the first single.
LE
https://markknopfler.lnk.to/ODR
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The Blu-PIcture could be a mistake (same as your observation about different (not symmetric!!) cover pictures, i guess they just made a bad job of copying the stuff into it. The items still don't exist so it's all made up.
Earlier someone posted about the single. Where did that info come from? Can't find anything about "Ahead Of The Game" being the first single.
LE
I bet is a speculation because the X and Instagram posts telling people to subscribe to the official account used that sentence as a catch one, "subscribe to be ahead of the game"
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The Blu-PIcture could be a mistake (same as your observation about different (not symmetric!!) cover pictures, i guess they just made a bad job of copying the stuff into it. The items still don't exist so it's all made up.
Earlier someone posted about the single. Where did that info come from? Can't find anything about "Ahead Of The Game" being the first single.
LE
https://markknopfler.lnk.to/ODR
Thanks but what does this saying? Nothing?
LE
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We didn't receive the typical e-mail from MK.com with the announcement so probably when do it there would be a mention of the single.
I remember with DTRW there were some site selling the digital version (which I bought inmediately) of "Good on you, son" before it was even announced oficially, if my memory serves.
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Nearly £160 for the box, ouch.
Think positive! You don't have to spend money on tickets this time! :lol
LE
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I totally love the picture, it reminds me when I travelled to Newcastle in a very fast trip in 2013 to attend the MK gig (and witness one of the few live versions of 5.15 a.m.) and spent many many time doing pictures of the bridges...
Actually, if you see it carefully, there are betwen four and five bridges in the picture but you can't see them all as they are all behind more or less aligned the way the picture is taken.
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I totally love the picture, it reminds me when I travelled to Newcastle in a very fast trip in 2013 to attend the MK gig (and witness one of the few live versions of 5.15 a.m.) and spent many many time doing pictures of the bridges...
Actually, if you see it carefully, there are betwen four and five bridges in the picture but you can't see them all as they are all behind more or less aligned the way the picture is taken.
Yes and they are all not symmetric!
:lol
LE
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I totally love the picture, it reminds me when I travelled to Newcastle in a very fast trip in 2013 to attend the MK gig (and witness one of the few live versions of 5.15 a.m.) and spent many many time doing pictures of the bridges...
Actually, if you see it carefully, there are betwen four and five bridges in the picture but you can't see them all as they are all behind more or less aligned the way the picture is taken.
Yes and they are all not symmetric!
:lol
LE
LOL
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The Blu-PIcture could be a mistake (same as your observation about different (not symmetric!!) cover pictures, i guess they just made a bad job of copying the stuff into it. The items still don't exist so it's all made up.
Earlier someone posted about the single. Where did that info come from? Can't find anything about "Ahead Of The Game" being the first single.
LE
https://markknopfler.lnk.to/ODR
Thanks but what does this saying? Nothing?
LE
It says download / stream ahead of the game
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The Blu-PIcture could be a mistake (same as your observation about different (not symmetric!!) cover pictures, i guess they just made a bad job of copying the stuff into it. The items still don't exist so it's all made up.
Earlier someone posted about the single. Where did that info come from? Can't find anything about "Ahead Of The Game" being the first single.
LE
https://markknopfler.lnk.to/ODR
Thanks but what does this saying? Nothing?
LE
It says download / stream ahead of the game
Not for me
And I click in the links and there is nothing there...
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If I order the Boxset there would be almost 70 Euro just for postage and fees! I hope there will be other ways to get this!
Yes, there would be plenty. The record comes out in April so patience.
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I have a feeling that Jimmy Nail could be a guest on the new album. "Big River"/ "One Deep River"? :think
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I have a feeling that Jimmy Nail could be a guest on the new album. "Big River"/ "One Deep River"? :think
Or Sting, when he was at British Grove for the TCT record, lol
(https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/news/976/cpsprodpb/10F9D/production/_98533596_sting.jpg.webp)
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No mention of Henrik Hansen anywhere...
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On my link there is a download button
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No mention of Henrik Hansen anywhere...
I still think Hansen documentary won't be out until Local Hero Musical doesn't get to a London stage and the record of it is released, as he recorded footage while they were recording the demos for the musical, so they would like to show everything in the video and that can be showed until LHM gets a proper release...
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On my link there is a download button
And where does it goes?
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On my link there is a download button
And where does it goes?
https://markknopfler.lnk.to/AOTG
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On my link there is a download button
And where does it goes?
https://markknopfler.lnk.to/AOTG
Nowhere, LOL
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So we need to keep refreshing ;D
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So we need to keep refreshing ;D
There is not any mail from the official mailing list with the information of the release so maybe when they got that there would be a mention to the single...
Usually friday is the release date in Europe (don't know about the rest of the world), but I hope one of those digital download sites (I remember buying "Good on you son" from one I never heard before) offers it before, lol
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So we need to keep refreshing ;D
There is not any mail from the official mailing list with the information of the release so maybe when they got that there would be a mention to the single...
Usually friday is the release date in Europe (don't know about the rest of the world), but I hope one of those digital download sites (I remember buying "Good on you son" from one I never heard before) offers it before, lol
I vaguely remembering buying it a day before but can’t remember the site, it was 2018 after all
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So we need to keep refreshing ;D
There is not any mail from the official mailing list with the information of the release so maybe when they got that there would be a mention to the single...
Usually friday is the release date in Europe (don't know about the rest of the world), but I hope one of those digital download sites (I remember buying "Good on you son" from one I never heard before) offers it before, lol
I vaguely remembering buying it a day before but can’t remember the site, it was 2018 after all
I found it.
I bought that song from here: https://uk.7digital.com/
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So we need to keep refreshing ;D
There is not any mail from the official mailing list with the information of the release so maybe when they got that there would be a mention to the single...
Usually friday is the release date in Europe (don't know about the rest of the world), but I hope one of those digital download sites (I remember buying "Good on you son" from one I never heard before) offers it before, lol
I vaguely remembering buying it a day before but can’t remember the site, it was 2018 after all
I found it.
I bought that song from here: https://uk.7digital.com/
Yeah that’s the one! You have a good memory ;D
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They are just now playing a song from Mark on Radio 2! BBC
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A new one ?
LE
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They are just now playing a song from Mark on Radio 2! BBC
The new single??
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Yes, Ahead of the game! I just heard the last minute, it was just posted on FB
I love it
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_two
Just go back, then you can hear it!
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It's here!!
https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_two
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https://www.bbc.co.uk/sounds/play/live:bbc_radio_two
Just go to 9:17
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:clap :clap
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Heard it, love it! Really good sounding guitar work with even a little solo in it. Most important: Nothing that annoys one, no wrong decisions, no annoying sounds, pure fresh Knopfler and even DS sound. Very cool. Wow. What a day.
LE
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I love the album title. I expected something epic, and epic it is.
I disagree about the song titles being atypical. If anyone would have shown me this list of titles and asked whose songs it was, I wouldn't have doubted for a second. And I love the titles. They all sound very promising, very Mark. And the closing track is going to be awesome, I'm sure. It can't be any other way.
As for the cover, I always wish for more creativity, but I've accepted a long time ago that it's not where Mark or the designers he hires go on adventures. It's a nice shot, for sure. And isn't it funny that this is the third symmetrical (sorry, almost symmetrical) cover in a row, after Tracker and Down the Road Wherever? Even Privateering is quite symmetrical. I guess Mark is a Stanley Kubrick fan. By the way, I think the slight asymmetry - the bridge being a bit too much too the left - is totally deliberate. It's not just about mathematical symmetry, it's also about the "weight" of each side. There's more black on the right, which makes it heavier. The picture "feels" more balanced this way, I believe.
Anyway, I'm off to learn the song titles by heart. What a great day. ;D
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Heard it, love it! eally good sounding guitar work with even a little solo in it. Most important: Nothing that annoys one, no wrong decisions, no annoying sounds, pure fresh Knopfler and even DS sound. Very cool. Wow. What a day.
LE
Éxactly my thoughts LE. Can’t describe it better.
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Just listening the xth time, great
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https://open.spotify.com/album/6FkxomPxNTWvIPcuau3FN6?si=MXdcxN7KQxCGaarjjCGJUA
Just here lol
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Made a new thread: https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=8587.0
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The blu ray is available to pre order:
https://www.thesdeshop.com/
Other non boxset are available here:
https://www.resident-music.com/productdetails&product_id=108264
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The blu ray is available to pre order:
https://www.thesdeshop.com/
Other non boxset are available here:
https://www.resident-music.com/productdetails&product_id=108264
just ordered the vinyl + Blu Ray set. I have been waiting for this so long. Thank you Mark!
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For the guitar enthusiasts, we can see the black Pensa from the 1980's in the picture from the deluxe boxset. Maybe he used it again after all these years?
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Just got an email about this. The superdeluxeedition.com website is an excellent one if you haven’t seen it before.
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For the guitar enthusiasts, we can see the black Pensa from the 1980's in the picture from the deluxe boxset. Maybe he used it again after all these years?
Yes, Guy confirmed that in his forum some weeks ago.
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Just a thought, the song One Deep River could be about either the Tyne river or even Tina Turner :think
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Amazon shows the lenght of the songs. Most of them are between 3 and 4 minutes, very few excedes the 5 minutes.
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1. Two Pairs Of Hands 04:05
2. Ahead Of The Game 03:56
3. Smart Money 04:27
4. Scavengers Yard 04:34
5. Black Tie Jobs 02:57
6. Tunnel 13 05:28
7. Janine 04:43
8. Watch Me Gone 05:02
9. Sweeter Than The Rain 04:17
10. Before My Train Comes 04:05
11. This One’s Not Going To End Well 04:00
12. One Deep River 04:17
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Just a thought, the song One Deep River could be about either the Tyne river or even Tina Turner :think
It's about the Tyne river.
"The title track reflects Knopfler’s deep affection for the river that ran through not just his childhood in Newcastle, but his whole life.
'Crossing the Tyne is always on your mind,' he says. 'It’s what you were doing when you were leaving as a youngster and that feeling is always the same every time you do it. You’re heading out or you’re coming back, and it just connects with your childhood. The power of it doesn’t go away.' "
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"The SDE-exclusive blu-ray edition is limited to 2,000 units worldwide."
I think this one will sell out fast.
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Amazon shows the lenght of the songs. Most of them are between 3 and 4 minutes, very few excedes the 5 minutes.
To make them fit on one LP. I'm happy about this. I've always thought Mark's albums have been too long.
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Just a thought, the song One Deep River could be about either the Tyne river or even Tina Turner :think
It's about the Tyne river.
"The title track reflects Knopfler’s deep affection for the river that ran through not just his childhood in Newcastle, but his whole life.
'Crossing the Tyne is always on your mind,' he says. 'It’s what you were doing when you were leaving as a youngster and that feeling is always the same every time you do it. You’re heading out or you’re coming back, and it just connects with your childhood. The power of it doesn’t go away.' "
Southbound Again vibes maybe. At least it comes to mind immediately.
LE
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Ok, thanks for clearing that up :thumbsup
Now I wonder which song Guy was referring to about being really amazing, I am going to guess Tunnel 13 :think
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That makes about 50 minutes for the main album
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There is a water of love lick in it! In the little solo part in the middle somewhere
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Now let's hope for some promo activities!!!
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That makes about 50 minutes for the main album
Yeah but there are 5 bonus tracks. If the 50 minutes are good I am perfectly fine with this. I watch Tracker always as one album, and that was nearly 80 minutes all in all. I never went for watching some songs as bonus or not. So together with the 5 tracks it will be probably around 70 minutes I guess.
LE
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The more I look the cover the more I like it!
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https://www.clashmusic.com/news/mark-knopfler-announces-new-album-one-deep-river/
https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/mark-knopfler-one-deep-river-sde-exclusive-blu-ray/
https://www.uncut.co.uk/news/hear-mark-knopflers-new-single-ahead-of-the-game-144889/
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Now let's hope for some promo activities!!!
Do you think there will be some? BBC radio perhaps?
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The more I look the cover the more I like it!
It is very nice, and especially when you have visited Newcastle and its atmospheric waterfront.
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That makes about 50 minutes for the main album
Yeah but there are 5 bonus tracks. If the 50 minutes are good I am perfectly fine with this. I watch Tracker always as one album, and that was nearly 80 minutes all in all. I never went for watching some songs as bonus or not. So together with the 5 tracks it will be probably around 70 minutes I guess.
LE
There are 9 bonus tracks in total.
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Musically, the new song is good enough for me but it is sad to confirm that he's still plagiaring himself mercylessly some of his old musical ideas, as he did in DTRW. The riff is recycled from 38 Special and the verse is litteraly carboncopied from the verses from The Car Was The One. Put it all in the mixer with a new groove and there you have it.
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I love the album cover, it says everything about Mark and his spiritual home.
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Looking forward to it but why can't all the songs be available to everyone.I don't have a record player so won't be able to hear those bonus songs legally unless they will be on Spotify or the like.This seems to happen with every release.
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Looking forward to it but why can't all the songs be available to everyone.I don't have a record player so won't be able to hear those bonus songs legally unless they will be on Spotify or the like.This seems to happen with every release.
Thats because the record are the songs in the main record, the rest are bonus for people who care buying the special editions, like a prize for those fans who spend more money for the product, they got extra songs for that. That's what these songs are for them.
But don't worry, they would be available in a way or another.
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Interesting perspective.Not sure I agree.Sure if pay more for a car you get more features but music supposed to be for the fans not to make them pay as much as possible.No reason the second cd couldn't have all the songs and charge £20 .It plays on them knowing fans will want to listen to everything.Anyway it is what it is.
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I totally love the picture, it reminds me when I travelled to Newcastle in a very fast trip in 2013 to attend the MK gig (and witness one of the few live versions of 5.15 a.m.) and spent many many time doing pictures of the bridges...
Actually, if you see it carefully, there are betwen four and five bridges in the picture but you can't see them all as they are all behind more or less aligned the way the picture is taken.
The Tyne Bridge is the least impressive for me. The largest and most recognisable maybe, but nothing remarkable. The High Level Bridge is a mid 19th century tour de force of engineering. It carries pedestrians and cars on the lower deck and trains on the upper. AKA the Get Carter bridge. Then there's the small, interesting late 19th century swing bridge between them. Both examples of better engineering and more interesting than just a road bridge.
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Now let's hope for some promo activities!!!
Do you think there will be some? BBC radio perhaps?
Ken Bruce has done the right thing and left the BBC.
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1. Two Pairs Of Hands 04:05
2. Ahead Of The Game 03:56
3. Smart Money 04:27
4. Scavengers Yard 04:34
5. Black Tie Jobs 02:57
6. Tunnel 13 05:28
7. Janine 04:43
8. Watch Me Gone 05:02
9. Sweeter Than The Rain 04:17
10. Before My Train Comes 04:05
11. This One’s Not Going To End Well 04:00
12. One Deep River 04:17
Thank you:) 51 minutes. Short.
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https://thesoundofvinyl.com/products/one-deep-river-box-set
It's £89.99 for the boxset here and if you sign up for their newsletter you get a 10% discount code.
Shipping is also MUCH cheaper than official store.
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https://thesoundofvinyl.com/products/one-deep-river-box-set
It's £89.99 for the boxset here and if you sign up for their newsletter you get a 10% discount code.
Shipping is also MUCH cheaper than official store.
Brilliant! Looks a nice looking Litho in there
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https://thesoundofvinyl.com/products/one-deep-river-box-set
It's £89.99 for the boxset here and if you sign up for their newsletter you get a 10% discount code.
Shipping is also MUCH cheaper than official store.
Brilliant! Looks a nice looking Litho in there
Sold all his iconic guitars so he's had to include a bass guitar in the litho.
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https://thesoundofvinyl.com/products/one-deep-river-box-set
It's £89.99 for the boxset here and if you sign up for their newsletter you get a 10% discount code.
Shipping is also MUCH cheaper than official store.
Brilliant! Looks a nice looking Litho in there
Sold all his iconic guitars so he's had to include a bass guitar in the litho.
:lol
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99 Euro in Germany for the boxset
https://store.udiscover-music.de/p1/index.html
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don't know if it has been mentionned before, I don't have the time to read all posts :
do you think that the "EP" is the bonus disc, or there will be another EP later ?
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MKNews says digital mastering by Bob Ludwig, but I thought Guy said Bernie Grundman?
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https://thesoundofvinyl.com/products/one-deep-river-box-set
It's £89.99 for the boxset here and if you sign up for their newsletter you get a 10% discount code.
Shipping is also MUCH cheaper than official store.
With great thanks to Brexsh*t, it won’t be cheap at all for any continental buyers. Import taxes and fees as well as waiting times at customs is ridiculous. I remember buying a DK CD…I think I have to pay the full price at Bol or so.
Btw, does anyone figure out what the CD + bluray tracklist is?
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don't know if it has been mentionned before, I don't have the time to read all posts :
do you think that the "EP" is the bonus disc, or there will be another EP later ?
I was wondering about that too. I think later.
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https://thesoundofvinyl.com/products/one-deep-river-box-set
It's £89.99 for the boxset here and if you sign up for their newsletter you get a 10% discount code.
Shipping is also MUCH cheaper than official store.
With great thanks to Brexsh*t, it won’t be cheap at all for any continental buyers. Import taxes and fees as well as waiting times at customs is ridiculous. I remember buying a DK CD…I think I have to pay the full price at Bol or so.
Btw, does anyone figure out what the CD + bluray tracklist is?
You can order here, shipping is much cheaper, only 6 Euro in Germany, for most of Europe about 15€
https://store.udiscover-music.de/p1/index.html
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https://thesoundofvinyl.com/products/one-deep-river-box-set
It's £89.99 for the boxset here and if you sign up for their newsletter you get a 10% discount code.
Shipping is also MUCH cheaper than official store.
With great thanks to Brexsh*t, it won’t be cheap at all for any continental buyers. Import taxes and fees as well as waiting times at customs is ridiculous. I remember buying a DK CD…I think I have to pay the full price at Bol or so.
Btw, does anyone figure out what the CD + bluray tracklist is?
You can order here, shipping is much cheaper, only 6 Euro in Germany, for most of Europe about 15€
https://store.udiscover-music.de/p1/index.html
Are you experienced with them? I mean are they delivering on Release Day, what happens if the vinyl is warped etc... Good old amazon is still uneatable in stuff like this and I am sure they will come up with the box, too. There is no need to hurry, you can order short before release, the Box will be available for sure.
LE
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Dear amit editors, I know it is maybe too much to ask but with the last album, we had a thread where all relevant informations about formats, track lists etc. were assembled. It was nice to go there and find stuff. If anyone of you finds the time, it would be wonderful and I would be soooo grateful! I see that "02 Ahead of the Game" implies that there are obviously plans to do the same? Thanks in advance for all you do!
I think the bow of the bridge from the cover will make a very nice banner above this forum. I also like the new fond very much. The whole new cover pic is just beautiful!
LE
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No, I just ordered and hope that it will work. But I can cancel my order if necessary.
In MK shop I would have paid almost 60£ p&p and 88;99 for the set.
I thought I take the chance/risk
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Good idea. You are right to do so. Keep us informed! Thank you for the link by the way.
LE
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Gern geschehen!
You are welcome
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Dear amit editors, I know it is maybe too much to ask but with the last album, we had a thread where all relevant informations about formats, track lists etc. were assembled. It was nice to go there and find stuff. If anyone of you finds the time, it would be wonderful and I would be soooo grateful! I see that "02 Ahead of the Game" implies that there are obviously plans to do the same? Thanks in advance for all you do!
I think the bow of the bridge from the cover will make a very nice banner above this forum. I also like the new fond very much. The whole new cover pic is just beautiful!
LE
Reason why I ask is because a question popped up: Am I right that the five bonus songs are only available on the bonus CD and not on vinyl, whereas there is another bonus vinyl with four other songs instead?
So no chance to get the five bonus songs on vinyl? Because the double LP has the 12 tracks, and inside the box it is the double LP and the bonus LP together with the 2 disc CD edition. So I will have all songs, but not all songs on vinyl?
LE
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Dear amit editors, I know it is maybe too much to ask but with the last album, we had a thread where all relevant informations about formats, track lists etc. were assembled. It was nice to go there and find stuff. If anyone of you finds the time, it would be wonderful and I would be soooo grateful! I see that "02 Ahead of the Game" implies that there are obviously plans to do the same? Thanks in advance for all you do!
I think the bow of the bridge from the cover will make a very nice banner above this forum. I also like the new fond very much. The whole new cover pic is just beautiful!
LE
Reason why I ask is because a question popped up: Am I right that the five bonus songs are only available on the bonus CD and not on vinyl, whereas there is another bonus vinyl with four other songs instead?
So no chance to get the five bonus songs on vinyl? Because the double LP has the 12 tracks, and inside the box it is the double LP and the bonus LP together with the 2 disc CD edition. So I will have all songs, but not all songs on vinyl?
LE
Yep that's right.
If you are willing to wait the boxsets will be heavily discounted after release because they never have sold really well.
Of course some fanatics need all the songs asap so aren't able to wait ;D
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Is it the sde shop reliable?
https://www.thesdeshop.com/
I guess it is but I'd like to read your comments, as they are the only ones selling the Blu-ray and blue vinyl.
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That's true, I got all my Box Sets far from release date, some years later, they were all available very long (the Live Box f.e. is still available and both Studio Album Boxes also if I am not mistaken), but I cannot say that they discounted very much in price, more the opposite. This time I am willing to have the Box as early as possible, but it as pity (again) that then those 5 bonus CD songs are not available on vinyl.
LE
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The deluxe box set is at 100€ on Amazon.fr
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Musically, the new song is good enough for me but it is sad to confirm that he's still plagiaring himself mercylessly some of his old musical ideas, as he did in DTRW. The riff is recycled from 38 Special and the verse is litteraly carboncopied from the verses from The Car Was The One. Put it all in the mixer with a new groove and there you have it.
I totally agree with this : .38 Special came immediately to mind. I like the sound and the feeling of the new song, but it's nothing "new", for me he's not "ahead of the game" with this one ;) and I don't like the fade-out ; some alternating licks would be nice...
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Is it the sde shop reliable?
https://www.thesdeshop.com/
I guess it is but I'd like to read your comments, as they are the only ones selling the Blu-ray and blue vinyl.
They are!
I ordered the bundle from them.
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Is it the sde shop reliable?
https://www.thesdeshop.com/
I guess it is but I'd like to read your comments, as they are the only ones selling the Blu-ray and blue vinyl.
They are!
I ordered the bundle from them.
I actually wanted to leave the forum a long time ago, but the administrators haven't reacted yet. So I won't. ;D
Anyway, what I wanted to say: jpc.de also sells the album in blue vinyl.
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Admins over here are too busy... never seen anything about that, sorry. Glad you are staying with us!
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Honestly, if anyone wants to leave the forum, just leave and don’t post, asking mods to delete your account makes no difference. :)
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Long time lurker here, figured this is as good a moment to sign up as any. I was a sporadic member of the Silvertown Blues forum and have discussed Dire Straits and Mark Knopfler elsewhere, but never here.
Is it the sde shop reliable?
https://www.thesdeshop.com/
It is. I've previously ordered the SDE Blu-Rays numbers 1 (Tears for Fears), 9 (also TFF) and 10 (Mike Oldfield) from them, as well as the exclusive CD edition of the TFF album. They always pack things well and customer service hasn't let me down so far. But keep in mind it's a small operation, essentially just Paul Sinclair and his wife Anne. Or at least that's how it was for quite a while.
It's rather remarkable (see what I did there? ;)) that Paul's initiative has revived the Blu-Ray audio format. The first Tears for Fears blu-ray back in 2022 was also limited to 2000 but there was such overwhelming demand, he eventually got to do another print run based on how many would preorder a second pressing - in the end it was 2500 copies sold second time around. I can see this disc selling at a similar pace.
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They have recorderd 30 plus songs we know from Richard. Will the others stay in the vault at BG??
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This release offers 21 songs altogether with all bonus tracks and there is the EP planned with let's say 4 or 5? So there is not too much left over. And they always worked this way so that some maybe are used on a next project. They always have a few songs in store. (Precious Voice From Heaven comes to mind.)
LE
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Or "Back In The Day" ;)
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Any of you typography experts able to identify the font they have used on the new record?
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Long time lurker here, figured this is as good a moment to sign up as any. I was a sporadic member of the Silvertown Blues forum and have discussed Dire Straits and Mark Knopfler elsewhere, but never here.
Is it the sde shop reliable?
https://www.thesdeshop.com/
It is. I've previously ordered the SDE Blu-Rays numbers 1 (Tears for Fears), 9 (also TFF) and 10 (Mike Oldfield) from them, as well as the exclusive CD edition of the TFF album. They always pack things well and customer service hasn't let me down so far. But keep in mind it's a small operation, essentially just Paul Sinclair and his wife Anne. Or at least that's how it was for quite a while.
It's rather remarkable (see what I did there? ;)) that Paul's initiative has revived the Blu-Ray audio format. The first Tears for Fears blu-ray back in 2022 was also limited to 2000 but there was such overwhelming demand, he eventually got to do another print run based on how many would preorder a second pressing - in the end it was 2500 copies sold second time around. I can see this disc selling at a similar pace.
they are. i ordered this one, then heard the normal deluxe box has more songs on it and cancelled the SDE one. this was handled swiftly and friendly. may still consider that box when my tax return for 2022 (finally) comes in :)
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I have also ordered from SDE, I bought the 40th anniversary Tubular Bells Blur-ray last year, all very good, he also does videos about the releases too, so, I guess he will for One Deep River.
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Any of you typography experts able to identify the font they have used on the new record?
I suppose this is one of the best font finding sites: www.whatfontis.com
To me the best results from the search are Grotzec, Industrial Gothic, Rama Gothic, Right Grotesk or Knockout.
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Any of you typography experts able to identify the font they have used on the new record?
I suppose this is one of the best font finding sites: www.whatfontis.com
To me the best results from the search are Grotzec, Industrial Gothic, Rama Gothic, Right Grotesk or Knockout.
Thanks!
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Industrial Gothic would be very appropriate ;)
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Interesting album cover. Looks like some's just photoshopped a red sky onto their shot. Still, it's quite nice and I've always loved the High Level Bridge which I think may have a bearing on one or two of the tracks judging by their titles.
(https://images.universal-music.de/img/assets/586/586191/992/1020/markknopfler.jpg)
You are one deep river, old friend
One deep river, amen
The title track "One Deep River" reflects Knopfler's deep affection for the river that runs through his childhood home city Newcastle. "Crossing the Tyne is always on your mind," he says. "It's what you were doing when you were leaving as a youngster and that feeling is always the same every time you do it. You're heading out or you're coming back, and it just connects with your childhood. The power of it doesn't go away."
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https://twitter.com/MarkKnopfler/status/1750586834495901820?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
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Do we know how long these songs are?
The Living End
Fat Chance Dupree
Along A Foreign Coast
What I’m Gonna Need
Nothing But Rain
Dolly Shop Man
Your Leading Man
Wrong’un
Chess
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Interesting album cover. Looks like some's just photoshopped a red sky onto their shot. Still, it's quite nice and I've always loved the High Level Bridge which I think may have a bearing on one or two of the tracks judging by their titles.
(https://images.universal-music.de/img/assets/586/586191/992/1020/markknopfler.jpg)
You are one deep river, old friend
One deep river, amen
The title track "One Deep River" reflects Knopfler's deep affection for the river that runs through his childhood home city Newcastle. "Crossing the Tyne is always on your mind," he says. "It's what you were doing when you were leaving as a youngster and that feeling is always the same every time you do it. You're heading out or you're coming back, and it just connects with your childhood. The power of it doesn't go away."
Hello ustas,
ist that quoation "You are one deep river, old friend, One deep river, amen" from the lyrics? Or where does it come from? Do you know?
LE
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ist that quoation "You are one deep river, old friend, One deep river, amen" from the lyrics? Or where does it come from? Do you know?
LE
Perhaps from lyrics. It's a quote from the Universal Music Canada message. There is not a complete press-release available yet.
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MKNews says digital mastering by Bob Ludwig, but I thought Guy said Bernie Grundman?
45rpm LPs, mastered at half speed by Miles Showell at Abbey Road Studios.
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ist that quoation "You are one deep river, old friend, One deep river, amen" from the lyrics? Or where does it come from? Do you know?
LE
Perhaps from lyrics. It's a quote from the Universal Music Canada message. There is not a complete press-release available yet.
Thanks. In that case it struck me that "amen" would or could be the last word in the last song on maybe his last album (if you think from the standard version of the album).
LE
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Is it already confirmed that the boxset also includes a downloadcode for all the songs??
I don’t have a recordplayer but I want to have all bonus tracks
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Is it already confirmed that the boxset also includes a downloadcode for all the songs??
I don’t have a recordplayer but I want to have all bonus tracks
Not as far as I'm aware. It did last time but the practice seems to be dying out. For example the first vinyl solo box had a download code but the second didn't (I think).
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You are one deep river, old friend
One deep river, amen
So these lyrics are on the new album
https://www.universalmusic.ca/press-releases/mark-knopflers-new-album-one-deep-river-to-be-released-on-april-12-2024/
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You are one deep river, old friend
One deep river, amen
So these lyrics are on the new album
https://www.universalmusic.ca/press-releases/mark-knopflers-new-album-one-deep-river-to-be-released-on-april-12-2024/
Has he ever been spiritual/religious before?
The latest Paul Simon album is kind of a spiritual reflection on aging and coming towards the end of life...
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You are one deep river, old friend
One deep river, amen
So these lyrics are on the new album
https://www.universalmusic.ca/press-releases/mark-knopflers-new-album-one-deep-river-to-be-released-on-april-12-2024/
Has he ever been spiritual/religious before?
The latest Paul Simon album is kind of a spiritual reflection on aging and coming towards the end of life...
Oh, no, Paul Simon with all due respect is too religious for my taste. He transformed into a full-time spiritual songwriter, all the magic is gone. Give me "The Mississippi delta was shining like a National guitar", not this amen and God BS that you can find in spades from people who do it for a living.
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https://www.universalmusic.ca/press-releases/mark-knopflers-new-album-one-deep-river-to-be-released-on-april-12-2024/
24 JANUARY 2024 (TORONTO, ON) — Mark Knopfler will release his tenth solo studio album on April 12th, 2024 on his own British Grove label via EMI/Universal Music Canada. Entitled One Deep River, it features 12 unhurriedly elegant new Knopfler songs, and his warm Geordie vocal tone, his poetic storytelling lyrics and deft, richly melodic guitar playing are all present and correct and as dazzling as ever.
The first single from the album "Ahead Of The Game", a wistful, perhaps autobiographical, story about a singer/songwriter struggling to make it, set to a distinctively Knopfler-esque classic riff, is available now.
The title track "One Deep River" reflects Knopfler's deep affection for the river that runs through his childhood home city Newcastle. "Crossing the Tyne is always on your mind," he says. "It's what you were doing when you were leaving as a youngster and that feeling is always the same every time you do it. You're heading out or you're coming back, and it just connects with your childhood. The power of it doesn't go away."
One Deep River offers an unstoppable flow of future Knopfler classics, with their customarily learned lyrics and refined guitar textures. They draw on a lifetime of genre-crossing ingredients and influences in blues, folk, rock and beyond, and as usual, reveal their charms with unhurried grace and depth.
One Deep River was produced by Knopfler and his longstanding collaborator Guy Fletcher and was recorded at his state of the art British Grove Studios in London. The album will be available on CD, deluxe 2CD, double gatefold vinyl, cassette and a special limited edition box set that will include the album on both vinyl and CD, 5 bonus tracks on CD, 4 exclusive bonus tracks on LP, a litho print of Mark and some of the guitars played on the record, a guitar pick set and tin, and an enamel badge.
The full tracklistings are:
Standard Album Tracklist
Two Pairs Of Hands
Ahead Of The Game
Smart Money
Scavengers Yard
Black Tie Jobs
Tunnel 13
Janine
Watch Me Gone
Sweeter Than The Rain
Before My Train Comes
This One’s Not Going To End Well
One Deep River
Bonus Vinyl Tracklist (exclusively in boxset):
Dolly Shop Man
Your Leading Man
Wrong ’un
Chess
Bonus CD Tracklist (in boxset and deluxe CD):
The Living End
Fat Chance Dupree
Along A Foreign Coast
What I’m Gonna Need
Nothing But Rain
The album is available to pre-order here: https://markknopfler.lnk.to/ODRPR
The band on One Deep River features Mark Knopfler on guitars, Jim Cox and Guy Fletcher on keyboards, Glenn Worf on bass, Ian Thomas on drums and Danny Cummings on percussion, Richard Bennett on guitar, and newcomer Greg Leisz on pedal and lap steel; Mike McGoldrick provides whistle and uilleann pipes, and John McCusker plays fiddle, while the Topolski sisters Emma and Tamsin add backing vocals. All songs are written by Mark Knopfler.
Mark Knopfler, singer-songwriter, record producer and composer, is one of the most successful musicians the UK has ever produced and is often cited as one of the greatest guitarists of all time. He first came to prominence in the 80s as leader of Dire Straits, who created many of the signature songs of the era. Knopfler broke up the band in 1995 and set off on a new path as a solo artist. In the ensuing years Knopfler has released nine solo albums of sophisticated rootsy rock and has continued to tour the globe with his band. Over the years, Mark has written the music for several films, including Local Hero, Cal, The Princess Bride, Last Exit To Brooklyn and Wag The Dog and has played and recorded with a number of artists, including Bob Dylan, Van Morrison, Emmylou Harris, Tina Turner, Randy Newman and Chet Atkins. Knopfler was made an OBE in 1999 and was given the prestigious Lifetime Achievement Award at the Ivor Novellos in 2012.
On 31st January ’24 Christies will auction the Mark Knopfler Guitar Collection. Comprising more than 120 guitars and amps, the collection spans Mark’s 50-year career and chronicles the diverse array of instruments that he has used to write, record and perform his peerless catalogue of music. The auction will include the Gibson Les Paul Mark played on Dire Straits’ ‘Brothers In Arms’ and at Live Aid, a red Mark Knopfler Signature Fender Stratocaster, and a 1951 Martin D-28, as well as a number of guitars used on the recording of One Deep River (including his Ovations, the little Martin, the Stefan Sobell and the Hummingbird).
Mark has teamed up with Brian Johnson, the singer from rock legends AC/DC, to make a six part new TV series for Sky Arts. The two friends take a fascinating look at the history of popular music alongside various special guests including Sam Fender and Emmylou Harris. Broadcast dates to be announced soon.
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Do I remember correctly that 4 songs are supposed to be acoustic?
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Do I remember correctly that 4 songs are supposed to be acoustic?
No idea, never heard that before
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Do I remember correctly that 4 songs are supposed to be acoustic?
No idea, never heard that before
I thought there was a mention of it at Christie's. Maybe I had a dream:)
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Do I remember correctly that 4 songs are supposed to be acoustic?
No idea, never heard that before
I thought there was a mention of it at Christie's. Maybe I had a dream:)
In Christie's they mention certain acoustic guitars were used in the new record, but as usual. In fact, according to Guy, in the new single MK played a Boswell acoustic and also a Fender Sunburst.
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You are one deep river, old friend
One deep river, amen
So these lyrics are on the new album
https://www.universalmusic.ca/press-releases/mark-knopflers-new-album-one-deep-river-to-be-released-on-april-12-2024/
Has he ever been spiritual/religious before?
The latest Paul Simon album is kind of a spiritual reflection on aging and coming towards the end of life...
Oh, no, Paul Simon with all due respect is too religious for my taste. He transformed into a full-time spiritual songwriter, all the magic is gone. Give me "The Mississippi delta was shining like a National guitar", not this amen and God BS that you can find in spades from people who do it for a living.
Religion is a very a) sensitive and b) personal topic, so once an artist suddenly becomes a priest and releases albums with direct Bible connections and outright prayers and all it goes completely through my radar, The Seven Psalms album doesn't exist for me. Luckily, in Mark's case "amen" is just like a nice finishing touch, the same "amen" as in "Baloney Again" or when we scream "Oh God!", we rarely mean the actual God, it's just an expression. I don't think there'll be any more religious efforts there, thank God!!!
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I remember him mentioning during the interview at Christie's that he plays his Boswell guitar on 4 or so songs. I doubt if he means pure acoustic songs.
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I remember him mentioning during the interview at Christie's that he plays his Boswell guitar on 4 or so songs. I doubt if he means pure acoustic songs.
Exactly, in the new single he already plays the Boswell, so these songs are not pure acoustic.
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I remember him mentioning during the interview at Christie's that he plays his Boswell guitar on 4 or so songs. I doubt if he means pure acoustic songs.
That was it! Thank you KnopfleRick :) I knew it was something with the number 4. Sorry my mistake.
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I remember him mentioning during the interview at Christie's that he plays his Boswell guitar on 4 or so songs. I doubt if he means pure acoustic songs.
That was it! Thank you KnopfleRick :) I knew it was something with the number 4. Sorry my mistake.
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You are one deep river, old friend
One deep river, amen
So these lyrics are on the new album
https://www.universalmusic.ca/press-releases/mark-knopflers-new-album-one-deep-river-to-be-released-on-april-12-2024/
Has he ever been spiritual/religious before?
He certainly made good use of the word "amen" in Baloney Again. Maybe he wants the keys to the gates in heaven. A lot of my neighbours are elderly and most of them are church goers. I think most go just for gossiping mind you because they always know what's going on before we do. 😂
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You are one deep river, old friend
One deep river, amen
So these lyrics are on the new album
https://www.universalmusic.ca/press-releases/mark-knopflers-new-album-one-deep-river-to-be-released-on-april-12-2024/
Has he ever been spiritual/religious before?
The latest Paul Simon album is kind of a spiritual reflection on aging and coming towards the end of life...
Oh, no, Paul Simon with all due respect is too religious for my taste. He transformed into a full-time spiritual songwriter, all the magic is gone. Give me "The Mississippi delta was shining like a National guitar", not this amen and God BS that you can find in spades from people who do it for a living.
I've never thought of Paul Simon as being religious (he was born Jewish).
I googled the latest album and he said that he's not religious but the songs came to him in a dream:
https://www.cbc.ca/arts/q/paul-simon-seven-psalms-q-tom-power-interview-1.6876141#:~:text=Paul%20Simon%2C%2081%2C%20is%20adamant,Seven%20Psalms%2C%20is%20undoubtedly%20divine.
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You are one deep river, old friend
One deep river, amen
So these lyrics are on the new album
https://www.universalmusic.ca/press-releases/mark-knopflers-new-album-one-deep-river-to-be-released-on-april-12-2024/
Has he ever been spiritual/religious before?
The latest Paul Simon album is kind of a spiritual reflection on aging and coming towards the end of life...
Oh, no, Paul Simon with all due respect is too religious for my taste. He transformed into a full-time spiritual songwriter, all the magic is gone. Give me "The Mississippi delta was shining like a National guitar", not this amen and God BS that you can find in spades from people who do it for a living.
I've never thought of Paul Simon as being religious (he was born Jewish).
I googled the latest album and he said that he's not religious but the songs came to him in a dream:
https://www.cbc.ca/arts/q/paul-simon-seven-psalms-q-tom-power-interview-1.6876141#:~:text=Paul%20Simon%2C%2081%2C%20is%20adamant,Seven%20Psalms%2C%20is%20undoubtedly%20divine.
Paul can say a lot, but I'm always looking at the result. "Seven Psalms" is an extremely religious title, there is no ambiguity about it — it's about religion/supernatural/Lord/Bible, and can't be interpreted in any other way. A non-religious person can't name his creation this way.
Maybe naming is the culprit here, and distracts me from it, maybe because I'm not religious myself. I never understood this obsession with ageing and overthinking death. I hate to break it to people, but you will die, pets you love will die, Knopfler and Simon will die, and everybody on this forum will die. Have a nice day!
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Do I remember correctly that 4 songs are supposed to be acoustic?
No idea, never heard that before
Wasn't it that MK had secured 4 new acoustic guitars?
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Paul can say a lot, but I'm always looking at the result. "Seven Psalms" is an extremely religious title, there is no ambiguity about it — it's about religion/supernatural/Lord/Bible, and can't be interpreted in any other way. A non-religious person can't name his creation this way.
I'm not religious but I've written religious songs. Paul says the title came to him in a dream, not sure why he would lie about that.
Lots of great religious themed music out there, if you don't listen just because you don't believe in god you are missing out!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FiJu7FQla3Y
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You are one deep river, old friend
One deep river, amen
So these lyrics are on the new album
https://www.universalmusic.ca/press-releases/mark-knopflers-new-album-one-deep-river-to-be-released-on-april-12-2024/
Has he ever been spiritual/religious before?
He certainly made good use of the word "amen" in Baloney Again. Maybe he wants the keys to the gates in heaven. A lot of my neighbours are elderly and most of them are church goers. I think most go just for gossiping mind you because they always know what's going on before we do. 😂
That's true. It fits very well with the gospel band The Fairfield Four.
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"Amen" is used outside of religion as well.
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"Amen" is used outside of religion as well.
Amen to that!
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I really like references to the Bible in texts.
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Dear amit editors, I know it is maybe too much to ask but with the last album, we had a thread where all relevant informations about formats, track lists etc. were assembled. It was nice to go there and find stuff. If anyone of you finds the time, it would be wonderful and I would be soooo grateful! I see that "02 Ahead of the Game" implies that there are obviously plans to do the same? Thanks in advance for all you do!
I think the bow of the bridge from the cover will make a very nice banner above this forum. I also like the new fond very much. The whole new cover pic is just beautiful!
LE
Work in progres!
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https://thesoundofvinyl.com/products/one-deep-river-box-set
It's £89.99 for the boxset here and if you sign up for their newsletter you get a 10% discount code.
Shipping is also MUCH cheaper than official store.
With great thanks to Brexsh*t, it won’t be cheap at all for any continental buyers. Import taxes and fees as well as waiting times at customs is ridiculous. I remember buying a DK CD…I think I have to pay the full price at Bol or so.
Btw, does anyone figure out what the CD + bluray tracklist is?
You can order here, shipping is much cheaper, only 6 Euro in Germany, for most of Europe about 15€
https://store.udiscover-music.de/p1/index.html
Are you experienced with them? I mean are they delivering on Release Day, what happens if the vinyl is warped etc... Good old amazon is still uneatable in stuff like this and I am sure they will come up with the box, too. There is no need to hurry, you can order short before release, the Box will be available for sure.
LE
uDiscover.de has the big Box for 99,- €, but after reading the latest customer reviews I hesitate to order there. 78% One Star reviews, most of them from the last two months. That is pretty obvious. People presume that the take orders without having the item on stock.
No Box Set on Amazon.de so far. I ordered the light blue (or baby blue) vinyl limited Edition at jpc.com, which is a very good store, but they don't have the Box either.
LE
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I think it will arrive on Amazon. They have it on Amazon France.
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I think it will arrive on Amazon. They have it on Amazon France.
They shouldn't have it because it is an exclusive release to the MK and his record labels various online stores.
The MK store told me it was a limited edition without giving any number.
Obviously it will eventually end up on Amazon secondary markets but I don't see how it can be cheaper as the buyer has to pay the exclusive store price of £89.99
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I think it will arrive on Amazon. They have it on Amazon France.
They shouldn't have it because it is an exclusive release to the MK and his record labels various online stores.
The MK store told me it was a limited edition without giving any number.
Obviously it will eventually end up on Amazon secondary markets but I don't see how it can be cheaper as the buyer has to pay the exclusive store price of £89.99
I didn’t see that it was exclusive, where did it say that?
It’s here on French Amazon
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0CST9DK6J?tag=bluraycom05-21
Also here
https://recordstore.co.uk/products/one-deep-river-box-set
https://thesoundofvinyl.com/products/one-deep-river-box-set
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Also for 99,99 on different shows in Netherlands. I ordered mine with free shipping
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I think it will arrive on Amazon. They have it on Amazon France.
They shouldn't have it because it is an exclusive release to the MK and his record labels various online stores.
The MK store told me it was a limited edition without giving any number.
Obviously it will eventually end up on Amazon secondary markets but I don't see how it can be cheaper as the buyer has to pay the exclusive store price of £89.99
I didn’t see that it was exclusive, where did it say that?
It’s here on French Amazon
https://www.amazon.fr/dp/B0CST9DK6J?tag=bluraycom05-21
Also here
https://recordstore.co.uk/products/one-deep-river-box-set
https://thesoundofvinyl.com/products/one-deep-river-box-set
It did say exclusive earlier in the week and when I emailed the MK store that is what they told me.
However it was listed at £160 then so perhaps they have had an immediate rethink?
It's much better being widely available as that will only lower the price.
The sov and rs sites are linked to the record company.
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I wonder if the exklusive bonus songs on vinyl will be available as digital download for the people who buy the box set or even for all at a later time :think
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I wonder if the exklusive bonus songs on vinyl will be available as digital download for the people who buy the box set or even for all at a later time :think
I hope. In 2018, there was only a code to download Don't Suck Me In, Sky And Water and Pale Imitation. Why the next 4 songs Dolly Shop Man, Your Leading Man, Wrong'un and Chess only on vinyl. I do not understand this.
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Only on LP? I haven't used a CD in a decade. ::)
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I haven't used a vinyl in a decade ::)
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LP, well, never (almost) ;D
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:)
Christian:
With 21 tracks overall, are there any songs among them (you don't have to tell us which) which have been around for a while and were only "right" this time around?
GF:
No, all the tracks are recorded in these sessions
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Texts should appear on the MKNews website soon. But they forgot about the title song ::)
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Another unsatisfying thing that I realized just now is that in the Box Set there are those four bonus vinyl songs which everyone is angry about, but the other five bonus songs are only on CD.. so even people who love vinyl and buy the big Box and are happy with the Bonus Vinyl record with the four songs, still are not able to listen to the five bonus songs on vinyl. the double album is the standard edition, so there is nearly no party really satisfied. As I ordered the Light Blue Vinyl edition already, I have the standard album already. So I could buy the double CD and wait for the four songs to turn up somehwere. That tin crap needs noboby anyway. Why on Earth is it so difficult?? If they point out this one should be a Vinyl edition, why are there not all songs on vinyl then...
Have to think again if or if not to buy the Box.
LE
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The blu ray is available to pre order:
https://www.thesdeshop.com/
Other non boxset are available here:
https://www.resident-music.com/productdetails&product_id=108264
Had to time to read this thread again and finally checked that link. Not if everyone read Mark's words about "Ahead Of The Game":
"That all goes back to bands playing live. In some way, I was thinking about Nashville, because when I first went out there, it must have been in the early '80s and all the bands in the bars downtown were playing the hits. And that's fine. What I was trying to say is that's an achievement to actually get to a place where you've got employment, and you've got yourself a gig. I mean, statistically, what are the odds of making it? If you stopped to think about that, you'd hardly take a step further, would you?"
This seems to be more than I read on any other site. I guess there will be the usual big promo inteview soon?
LE
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Another unsatisfying thing that I realized just now is that in the Box Set there are those four bonus vinyl songs which everyone is angry about, but the other five bonus songs are only on CD.. so even people who love vinyl and buy the big Box and are happy with the Bonus Vinyl record with the four songs, still are not able to listen to the five bonus songs on vinyl. the double album is the standard edition, so there is nearly no party really satisfied. As I ordered the Light Blue Vinyl edition already, I have the standard album already. So I could buy the double CD and wait for the four songs to turn up somehwere. That tin crap needs noboby anyway. Why on Earth is it so difficult?? If they point out this one should be a Vinyl edition, why are there not all songs on vinyl then...
Have to think again if or if not to buy the Box.
LE
Unfortunately we know well that Mark's sales are not satisfactory, and so the record company invents everything to make money.
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No, I know what you mean but here it is has nothing to do with "money making", it is just not possible to get the 5 bonus songs on vinyl, so that is just not good service and a good release politics. If there was
another, fourth, record in the Box with the five songs or let's say if they would put all nine bonus songs on one record instead, it would be full satisfying and they could charge even more money for it.
So it ist just keeping people short of the full possibilities. They did it so well with the bonus records in both boxes. Why not here again?
LE
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No, I know what you mean but here it is has nothing to do with "money making", it is just not possible to get the 5 bonus songs on vinyl, so that is just not good service and a good release politics. If there was
another, fourth, record in the Box with the five songs or let's say if they would put all nine bonus songs on one record instead, it would be full satisfying and they could charge even more money for it.
So it ist just keeping people short of the full possibilities. They did it so well with the bonus records in both boxes. Why not here again?
LE
I agree with you. I've never understood some sales strategies, the only thing I understand is that we, the fans, are the ones who lose out
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Didn’t realise that. I think the last record had everything on vinyl?
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The blu ray is available to pre order:
https://www.thesdeshop.com/
Other non boxset are available here:
https://www.resident-music.com/productdetails&product_id=108264
Had to time to read this thread again and finally checked that link. Not if everyone read Mark's words about "Ahead Of The Game":
"That all goes back to bands playing live. In some way, I was thinking about Nashville, because when I first went out there, it must have been in the early '80s and all the bands in the bars downtown were playing the hits. And that's fine. What I was trying to say is that's an achievement to actually get to a place where you've got employment, and you've got yourself a gig. I mean, statistically, what are the odds of making it? If you stopped to think about that, you'd hardly take a step further, would you?"
This seems to be more than I read on any other site. I guess there will be the usual big promo inteview soon?
LE
Here's about the new album:
it was back to the old-fashioned idea of a band making a record together in the room, which maybe in the more youth-oriented side of the industry has become quite rare, because everyone uses loads of technology. we do too, but what we do is we combine the old and the new. if it works, i use it.
"with these songs, you can see them coming together very quickly, with a band like this. you're in a game where you're making the thing and it's happening whether you like it or not. you could push the pace, but i try and give myself a little bit more breathing room. the fatal thing a lot of the time would be to want to rush everything. something creative always happens by not panicking
MK
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Didn’t realise that. I think the last record had everything on vinyl?
As far as I recall, with DTRW we had two extra songs added in the cd and an extra vinyl with extra songs.
The two extra songs added in the cd were not in any vinyl as far as I recall, and the songs in the extra vinyl were only in the vinyl.
So more or less the same thing.
I seems to recall not all songs were included in the digital download at the beginning but some time after, as we started to complain (weird thing from us, lol) they included everything from the box in that digital download.
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Another unsatisfying thing that I realized just now is that in the Box Set there are those four bonus vinyl songs which everyone is angry about, but the other five bonus songs are only on CD.. so even people who love vinyl and buy the big Box and are happy with the Bonus Vinyl record with the four songs, still are not able to listen to the five bonus songs on vinyl. the double album is the standard edition, so there is nearly no party really satisfied. As I ordered the Light Blue Vinyl edition already, I have the standard album already. So I could buy the double CD and wait for the four songs to turn up somehwere. That tin crap needs noboby anyway. Why on Earth is it so difficult?? If they point out this one should be a Vinyl edition, why are there not all songs on vinyl then...
Have to think again if or if not to buy the Box.
LE
Indeed, I pre ordered the 2 CD set. Box is nice but good to get somewhere with a proper discount someday.
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Here's about the new album:
it was back to the old-fashioned idea of a band making a record together in the room, which maybe in the more youth-oriented side of the industry has become quite rare, because everyone uses loads of technology. we do too, but what we do is we combine the old and the new. if it works, i use it.
"with these songs, you can see them coming together very quickly, with a band like this. you're in a game where you're making the thing and it's happening whether you like it or not. you could push the pace, but i try and give myself a little bit more breathing room. the fatal thing a lot of the time would be to want to rush everything. something creative always happens by not panicking
MK
I don't think I can entirely agree with Mark here. I tried to learn a bunch of new songs from Taylor Swift, Ed Sheeran, John Mayer and all the usual suspects who may be called "youth-oriented", and what do you know? Good musicians, good production, good arrangements, and not any of the things MK mentioned. Music is still music and while yes, you can just play a scale and then combine it into a Rachmaninoff's piano concerto, however, people are also people and they simply don't like when something's fake, overly produced and falls into the uncanny valley of music. Everything he likes is still there in spades, it's NOT rare.
I'm not a fan of when people or brands compare themselves with anyone else. Just do your thing man, stop yelling at clouds.
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Hmm... is he really comparing? It is just that "...a band making a record together in a room" that he talks about. I just don't know how Swift, Sheeran and Mayer work and maybe they are not who he refers to when speaking of "young". On the other hand, when you are nearly 75 everyone is young (apart from Bob).
LE
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Hmm... is he really comparing? It is just that "...a band making a record together in a room" that he talks about. I just don't know how Swift, Sheeran and Mayer work and maybe they are not who he refers to when speaking of "young". On the other hand, when you are nearly 75 everyone is young (apart from Bob).
LE
It implies that "kids these days" only sit in their bedrooms and record everything with computers, not record with a proper band, whereas in reality "kids these days", as Louis Armstrong sang, "Will learn much more than I'll ever know". You can't believe the level of raw musicianship and virtuosity a random 10-year-old bassist or 10-year-old guitar player can achieve thanks to online education. And technology, if anything, made it even easier to jam together, book rehearsal spaces and exchange demos.
So yeah, I'm not sure what he meant here, and electronic youth-oriented music existed throughout all his life, not only these days. Mark recorded some things in his bedroom too, he also recorded a lot of stuff remotely by just exchanging emails, and his latest albums use so much technology it's unbelievable, so... That's why I'm confused. So you can record a song quickly with guys who recorded music professionally for 50+ years? Who knew... Now tell us how much $$$$ this band costs... :lol
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Pavel wonder if you are not over interpretating what Mark is writing.
Mark is using a band that he is working with and somewhat extensively touring with for nearly 25 years and they are all confirmed pro.
And he has money to use studio time (BG is a professionnaly run company so Mark has to pay to use it even if he is the owner).
So this the way Mark has chosen to do it and he explain it,
I don't see criticism over the young artist but a critical view about how things are different now.
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Pavel wonder if you are not over interpretating what Mark is writing.
Mark is using a band that he is working with and somewhat extensively touring with for nearly 25 years and they are all confirmed pro.
And he has money to use studio time (BG is a professionnaly run company so Mark has to pay to use it even if he is the owner).
So this the way Mark has chosen to do it and he explain it,
I don't see criticism over the young artist but a critical view about how things are different now.
I understood the same.
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Pavel wonder if you are not over interpretating what Mark is writing.
Mark is using a band that he is working with and somewhat extensively touring with for nearly 25 years and they are all confirmed pro.
And he has money to use studio time (BG is a professionnaly run company so Mark has to pay to use it even if he is the owner).
So this the way Mark has chosen to do it and he explain it,
I don't see criticism over the young artist but a critical view about how things are different now.
I understood the same.
Me too
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Here's about the new album:
it was back to the old-fashioned idea of a band making a record together in the room, which maybe in the more youth-oriented side of the industry has become quite rare, because everyone uses loads of technology. we do too, but what we do is we combine the old and the new. if it works, i use it.
"with these songs, you can see them coming together very quickly, with a band like this. you're in a game where you're making the thing and it's happening whether you like it or not. you could push the pace, but i try and give myself a little bit more breathing room. the fatal thing a lot of the time would be to want to rush everything. something creative always happens by not panicking
MK
I don't think I can entirely agree with Mark here. I tried to learn a bunch of new songs from Taylor Swift, Ed Sheeran, John Mayer and all the usual suspects who may be called "youth-oriented", and what do you know? Good musicians, good production, good arrangements, and not any of the things MK mentioned. Music is still music and while yes, you can just play a scale and then combine it into a Rachmaninoff's piano concerto, however, people are also people and they simply don't like when something's fake, overly produced and falls into the uncanny valley of music. Everything he likes is still there in spades, it's NOT rare.
I'm not a fan of when people or brands compare themselves with anyone else. Just do your thing man, stop yelling at clouds.
It’s actually quite a skill to take such an innocuous comment and turn it into something to bash MK with. Impressive.
All he said was that he recorded this album with all musicians together, which is rare these days. Given that he owns a recording studio he is qualified to opine on the matter. He doesn’t say that doing it this way is better or worse.
Somehow you manage to turn this into him complaining about Taylor Swift despite him being an old man yelling at, um, nothing.
Bravo my friend. Bravo.
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It’s actually quite a skill to take such an innocuous comment and turn it into something to bash MK with. Impressive.
All he said was that he recorded this album with all musicians together, which is rare these days. Given that he owns a recording studio he is qualified to opine on the matter. He doesn’t say that doing it this way is better or worse.
Somehow you manage to turn this into him complaining about Taylor Swift despite him being an old man yelling at, um, nothing.
Bravo my friend. Bravo.
Guys, we are discussing Marks's liner notes, that can be written with ChatGPT at this point. The sheer act of discussing it already makes you overthink it. Allow me to have some fun and poke Mr Knopfler analysing this rather general and rather predictable text.
"With these songs, you can see them coming together very quickly", — says the man and proceeds to make an album for 6 years. Don't panic, for sure.
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"With these songs, you can see them coming together very quickly", — says the man and proceeds to make an album for 6 years.
Haha! ;D
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"With these songs, you can see them coming together very quickly", — says the man and proceeds to make an album for 6 years.
The 6 years is rubbish though because all these new songs were recorded in the past 2 years.
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"With these songs, you can see them coming together very quickly", — says the man and proceeds to make an album for 6 years.
The 6 years is rubbish though because all these new songs were recorded in the past 2 years.
2 years? More like 2 months. With this band, you can record Mark's entire discography in a single day, all in one-takes.
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Well the sessions were in 2022 and 23 so.....
I doubt MK could record the solos from the early solo albums in one take,especially as he has more mics nowadays!
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Pavel wonder if you are not over interpretating what Mark is writing.
Mark is using a band that he is working with and somewhat extensively touring with for nearly 25 years and they are all confirmed pro.
And he has money to use studio time (BG is a professionnaly run company so Mark has to pay to use it even if he is the owner).
So this the way Mark has chosen to do it and he explain it,
I don't see criticism over the young artist but a critical view about how things are different now.
I understood the same.
Me too
Same here!
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Just stumbled across this set of photos on Facebook accidentally. Taken in Redcar Beach, 50 miles south of Newcastle. I wonder how Tyne Bridge would look with an atmosphere like this, probably something akin to the cover picture. Source: https://www.facebook.com/simplypictures1/posts/pfbid02GrdJVt7nezbKAWpZ8dfAXvTDnTugCv4HJchkTYqkiLEt7GyxsvepzkpRFFBYHzE6l (https://www.facebook.com/simplypictures1/posts/pfbid02GrdJVt7nezbKAWpZ8dfAXvTDnTugCv4HJchkTYqkiLEt7GyxsvepzkpRFFBYHzE6l)
Also, the author says it's sunrise, not sunset. So you can apply this mentality to Mark's cover picture as well. It's not sunset, it's sunrise 8)
(https://scontent-lhr6-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t39.30808-6/423248454_1402402690549663_713887789153000881_n.jpg?_nc_cat=109&ccb=1-7&_nc_sid=3635dc&_nc_ohc=2ZFs_nXpOUAAX-gFarM&_nc_ht=scontent-lhr6-1.xx&oh=00_AfAR5Vf28QCghZVwYNgyPWUbab8Cp5b8HogJx9t3aQ-AbA&oe=65BB90B4)
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"With these songs, you can see them coming together very quickly", — says the man and proceeds to make an album for 6 years.
The 6 years is rubbish though because all these new songs were recorded in the past 2 years.
2 years? More like 2 months. With this band, you can record Mark's entire discography in a single day, all in one-takes.
The thing is he built the songs slowly with Guy, starting from a main idea with just guitar chords, then they start thinking about the arrangements, usually doing demos with bass and drums lines programmed by MK, trying different guitars and amps very slowly...
What it takes very little time is when the band is in the studio to play the songs live all in the room, as everything is pretty planned and althought there is a room for improvisation, they all know the guidelines before they even start so with a bunch of proffesional musicians from Nashville, that is going to be fast, but the preparation work with MK and Guy alone, that takes a lot of time as they are not in a hurry and have a lot of different brands of Tea to try as well.
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The thing is he built the songs slowly with Guy, starting from a main idea with just guitar chords, then they start thinking about the arrangements, usually doing demos with bass and drums lines programmed by MK, trying different guitars and amps very slowly...
What it takes very little time is when the band is in the studio to play the songs live all in the room, as everything is pretty planned and althought there is a room for improvisation, they all know the guidelines before they even start so with a bunch of proffesional musicians from Nashville, that is going to be fast, but the preparation work with MK and Guy alone, that takes a lot of time as they are not in a hurry and have a lot of different brands of Tea to try as well.
And how then does it differ from over-production and overly long post-production Mark was complaining basically from the beginning of his solo career? Instead of long post-production, let's have a long pre-production then but rush everything else. Is this how it works now?
It's quite remarkable how Mark steps in the same water so many times. Dire Straits ended with a long exhausting tour, 9 people on stage, overly produced albums or whatever. Mark's solo career has its sunset (judging by 2 cover pictures in a row) with 11 (!) people on stage, a long exhausting tour, and overly pre-produced albums.
We all love Mark and it's a fan forum, I know, just want to remind people to lower their expectations and never take anything for face value.
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Official video of Ahead of the game coming this evening to MK's YouTube channel.
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The thing is he built the songs slowly with Guy, starting from a main idea with just guitar chords, then they start thinking about the arrangements, usually doing demos with bass and drums lines programmed by MK, trying different guitars and amps very slowly...
What it takes very little time is when the band is in the studio to play the songs live all in the room, as everything is pretty planned and althought there is a room for improvisation, they all know the guidelines before they even start so with a bunch of proffesional musicians from Nashville, that is going to be fast, but the preparation work with MK and Guy alone, that takes a lot of time as they are not in a hurry and have a lot of different brands of Tea to try as well.
And how then does it differ from over-production and overly long post-production Mark was complaining basically from the beginning of his solo career? Instead of long post-production, let's have a long pre-production then but rush everything else. Is this how it works now?
It's quite remarkable how Mark steps in the same water so many times. Dire Straits ended with a long exhausting tour, 9 people on stage, overly produced albums or whatever. Mark's solo career has its sunset (judging by 2 cover pictures in a row) with 11 (!) people on stage, a long exhausting tour, and overly pre-produced albums.
We all love Mark and it's a fan forum, I know, just want to remind people to lower their expectations and never take anything for face value.
Because they are not over producing anything, they are just composing and arranging, they are not producing anything until the band arrives and record the song in full, and after that they add whatever other things they need if any.
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Official video of Ahead of the game coming this evening to MK's YouTube channel.
:thumbsup Thank you for your message:)
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Official video of Ahead of the game coming this evening to MK's YouTube channel.
Thank you, thank you, thank youuuu! :thumbsup
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Here is the link?
https://youtu.be/gaAtqgbA5WA?si=el-edRsfBbAsSSdM
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:) I love this band.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gaAtqgbA5WA
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All that set-up, just for mimicking it. I bet we will have the same set-up from the same day with the same clothes for the next single release :lol
It would have been great to have a live played version, that's all I want to say. I remember back in 1996, when the promo started for Golden Heart, I heard many live-from-the-rehearsal-room-versions of the new material. The band is there anyway, so...
LE
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Looks like a Corona Setup with lots of space between the musicians.
So nice to see the band make music again.
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All that set-up, just for mimicking it. I bet we will have the same set-up from the same day with the same clothes for the next single release :lol
It would have been great to have a live played version, that's all I want to say. I remember back in 1996, when the promo started for Golden Heart, I heard many live-from-the-rehearsal-room-versions of the new material. The band is there anyway, so...
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It reminds me of Shangri-La promo videos, also shot in black and white TWENTY YEARS AGO, and also mimicking. I don't think I'll ever forgive MK for not having a proper "Live at British Grove" album though. You have a world-class studio, you have world-class musicians and access to any film crew that will be happy to do the shoot for you, and all you do is playback promo videos. I know it's getting old criticising MK, but this man's middle name is "missed opportunity". How, how, how it's even possible?
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All that set-up, just for mimicking it. I bet we will have the same set-up from the same day with the same clothes for the next single release :lol
It would have been great to have a live played version, that's all I want to say. I remember back in 1996, when the promo started for Golden Heart, I heard many live-from-the-rehearsal-room-versions of the new material. The band is there anyway, so...
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It reminds me of Shangri-La promo videos, also shot in black and white TWENTY YEARS AGO, and also mimicking. I don't think I'll ever forgive MK for not having a proper "Live at British Grove" album though. You have a world-class studio, you have world-class musicians and access to any film crew that will be happy to do the shoot for you, and all you do is playback promo videos. I know it's getting old criticising MK, but this man's middle name is "missed opportunity". How, how, how it's even possible?
Simple answer: Mark is not interested :D
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All that set-up, just for mimicking it. I bet we will have the same set-up from the same day with the same clothes for the next single release :lol
It would have been great to have a live played version, that's all I want to say. I remember back in 1996, when the promo started for Golden Heart, I heard many live-from-the-rehearsal-room-versions of the new material. The band is there anyway, so...
LE
It reminds me of Shangri-La promo videos, also shot in black and white TWENTY YEARS AGO, and also mimicking. I don't think I'll ever forgive MK for not having a proper "Live at British Grove" album though. You have a world-class studio, you have world-class musicians and access to any film crew that will be happy to do the shoot for you, and all you do is playback promo videos. I know it's getting old criticising MK, but this man's middle name is "missed opportunity". How, how, how it's even possible?
Simple answer: Mark is not interested :D
I know he's not a fan of music videos, but boy, as was highlighted earlier the man doesn't mind organising a freaking pantomime performance so many times and yet — giving your fans a chance to marvel at your studio's beauty, witness your perfect band doing REAL magic, capturing your unique playing for generations to come is a big no-no. He's been giving a big middle finger to his fans all this time, no wonder many of us are so angry.
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https://www.thesdeshop.com/
SOLD OUT :clap
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"The SDE-exclusive blu-ray edition is limited to 2,000 units worldwide."
I think this one will sell out fast.
... in less than a week.
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In the booklet of Jimmy Nail's "Big River" album is the same bridge but under construction.
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Didn’t realise that. I think the last record had everything on vinyl?
"Rear View Mirror" and "Every Heart in the Room" weren't on vinyl until the 2009 - 2018 box set.
and electronic youth-oriented music existed throughout all his life
Really?
Look at any current pop chart and tell me what you think compares from the 1950s. There was assembly line writing and production, sure, but it was still with an underlying craft. Nowadays, there is an awful lot of music that barely has any human element. The John Mayers, Taylor Swifts and Sam Fenders of today are exceptions that also appeal to parts of the (predominantly older) rock crowd because of that.
And how then does it differ from over-production and overly long post-production Mark was complaining basically from the beginning of his solo career? Instead of long post-production, let's have a long pre-production then but rush everything else. Is this how it works now?
It's quite remarkable how Mark steps in the same water so many times. Dire Straits ended with a long exhausting tour, 9 people on stage, overly produced albums or whatever. Mark's solo career has its sunset (judging by 2 cover pictures in a row) with 11 (!) people on stage, a long exhausting tour, and overly pre-produced albums.
We all love Mark and it's a fan forum, I know, just want to remind people to lower their expectations and never take anything for face value.
Sure, he can shoot himself in the foot. But if the pre-production works for him, then I don't see a reason to take exception to it. Would the songs sound more spontaneous, fresher without it? Maybe.
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I don't get bothered by how long it takes to make the album, it's what the finished product sounds like that's important. This is a great time we are in, we had the Dire Straits box set late last year, now the new album and a TV show to look forward to :clap I for one am excited by all this, let's enjoy it while we have it.
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I don't get bothered by how long it takes to make the album, it's what the finished product sounds like that's important. This is a great time we are in, we had the Dire Straits box set late last year, now the new album and a TV show to look forward to :clap I for one am excited by all this, let's enjoy it while we have it.
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also the tct project
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Now we have separated threads for each song, so please if any find information about a specific song, post it in that thread :)
THANKS!
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and electronic youth-oriented music existed throughout all his life
Really?
Look at any current pop chart and tell me what you think compares from the 1950s. There was assembly line writing and production, sure, but it was still with an underlying craft. Nowadays, there is an awful lot of music that barely has any human element. The John Mayers, Taylor Swifts and Sam Fenders of today are exceptions that also appeal to parts of the (predominantly older) rock crowd because of that.
Really what? Humanity always tried to come up with music for the future and for the youth, without it, we'd still be banging on the bongos like chimpanzees and singing Gregorian chants, being afraid not to anger GOD with our tritones. Renaissance, romantic music, then the invention of recording, blues, and bebop, everything was new and hip at some point. In Mark's age, there were synthesisers, Stratocasters (Strato — nuclear age, future, the space) and so on.
I'd be the last one to criticise today's music. There are a LOT more people than in the 50s, music is more abundant and available than ever, so no way it would not diminish in quality. Everything diminishes in quality once gets this abundant, available and easy to make. Our job is to find little gems in the sea of mediocrity. Like Eric Clapton said or whoever it was, in music, it's 5% of gold and 95% of shit, and this ratio never ever changed in the history of art, now even more so.
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Now we have separated threads for each song, so please if any find information about a specific song, post it in that thread :)
THANKS!
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Now we have separated threads for each song, so please if any find information about a specific song, post it in that thread :)
THANKS!
Thank you!!
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SDE blu-ray sold out. https://www.thesdeshop.com/collections/mark-knopfler
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Here's a fun new video from Rick Beato that just came out about how fast you can write and record a song with a Nashville band, and how little to no actual "production" is needed when the musicians are so great. Guess who's using an even better Nashville band than this!
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YEBscJND_ZM
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Why is there such an obsession about how long his albums take? It really doesn't matter, to me at least, most people naturally slow down later in life, yes there are exceptions, Paul McCartney, Ringo, Nick Mason, Roger Waters etc, but with them it mainly about touring, Mark is still making original albums, and this is the 1st time in his career he has intentionally not toured an album. The Ragpicker's Dream tour was a forced cancelation. If I was in his shoes, I would be doing the same, maybe he just wants to slow things down even further, and spend time with his family etc, he must be fully aware there are less years ahead now. I have no doubt this is not his last album.
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Why is there such an obsession about how long his albums take? It really doesn't matter, to me at least, most people naturally slow down later in life, yes there are exceptions, Paul McCartney, Ringo, Nick Mason, Roger Waters etc, but with them it mainly about touring, Mark is still making original albums, and this is the 1st time in his career he has intentionally not toured an album. The Ragpicker's Dream tour was a forced cancelation. If I was in his shoes, I would be doing the same, maybe he just wants to slow things down even further, and spend time with his family etc, he must be fully aware there are less years ahead now. I have no doubt this is not his last album.
100% agree with you!!!
I'm really sick and tired of all this moaning about what Mark is doing or not. :(
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One of the main reasons for this impatience among Get-A-Lifers is that Guy keeps telling us what they do all the time and automatically raises expectations. I was totally happy and surprised when back in summer 2000 I learned that a new album was going to be released. I had no idea what MK had been doing since 1998.
In times of social Media and X everything is detected within minutes as fans are behaving like vultures for news. Remember that pic from the band's meeting in London? Immediately speculation and alarm went off.
I read some comments on YouTube from "casual" music fans and how surprised and happy they were hearing news about a new album release. I was a little envious about that I must admit.
Sometimes I think we are sort of "professional fans" which takes the pure joy and happiness from a lot of things that should be the core of it all.
LE
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I agree, I think a lot of people just don't seem to have much patience anymore, maybe it's different for me as I don't and won't do social media, so am not in this needing everything instantly state of mind. I remember the thrill of hearing that Mark had a solo album coming out in 1996 there was really no lead up to it, it just happened as most people didn't know he was recording anymore.
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I don't and won't do social media.
:clap
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Here's a fun new video from Rick Beato that just came out about how fast you can write and record a song with a Nashville band, and how little to no actual "production" is needed when the musicians are so great. Guess who's using an even better Nashville band than this!
Hate to disappoint you quizzaciously, but Tom Bukovac is the top of the line! I wouldn't dare to say Richard Bennett is better.
More info on Bukovac:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Bukovac
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Here's a fun new video from Rick Beato that just came out about how fast you can write and record a song with a Nashville band, and how little to no actual "production" is needed when the musicians are so great. Guess who's using an even better Nashville band than this!
Hate to disappoint you quizzaciously, but Tom Bukovac is the top of the line! I wouldn't dare to say Richard Bennett is better.
More info on Bukovac:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Bukovac
Fair to say! I like Richard's personality more though, he's so intelligent and soft-spoken, and reminds me of Teller of Penn & Teller. Anyhow, these session musicians frighten me, the way they can play anything, anywhere, in any style, how they learn songs not just fast, but at the speed of light, and the sheer amount of their recording credits. They are true magicians of their instruments.
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Here's a fun new video from Rick Beato that just came out about how fast you can write and record a song with a Nashville band, and how little to no actual "production" is needed when the musicians are so great. Guess who's using an even better Nashville band than this!
Hate to disappoint you quizzaciously, but Tom Bukovac is the top of the line! I wouldn't dare to say Richard Bennett is better.
More info on Bukovac:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Bukovac
Fair to say! I like Richard's personality more though, he's so intelligent and soft-spoken, and reminds me of Teller of Penn & Teller. Anyhow, these session musicians frighten me, the way they can play anything, anywhere, in any style, how they learn songs not just fast, but at the speed of light, and the sheer amount of their recording credits. They are true magicians of their instruments.
I was sure I was going to find something ;D
https://youtu.be/PLzL7xTFQZ8?si=cbxwWrSeelY_LETe
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Here's a fun new video from Rick Beato that just came out about how fast you can write and record a song with a Nashville band, and how little to no actual "production" is needed when the musicians are so great. Guess who's using an even better Nashville band than this!
Hate to disappoint you quizzaciously, but Tom Bukovac is the top of the line! I wouldn't dare to say Richard Bennett is better.
More info on Bukovac:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tom_Bukovac
Fair to say! I like Richard's personality more though, he's so intelligent and soft-spoken, and reminds me of Teller of Penn & Teller. Anyhow, these session musicians frighten me, the way they can play anything, anywhere, in any style, how they learn songs not just fast, but at the speed of light, and the sheer amount of their recording credits. They are true magicians of their instruments.
Oh gosh! What a great comparison. I reckon Richard Bennett and Teller would make a great pairing. Lock them in a room and tell them to get to know each other, awesome
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Like Eric Clapton said or whoever it was, in music, it's 5% of gold and 95% of shit, and this ratio never ever changed in the history of art, now even more so.
It's called Sturgeon's Law (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Sturgeon%27s_law), and unfortunately, it's not just true for music, but also, crucially, for people's thoughts, opinions and decisions. Which is rather worrying if you're a defender of democracy ... :think
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xg8Kqu44Yw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xg8Kqu44Yw)
There's a video coming up tonight!
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That looks intriguing, it's not often you see Mark behind the desk.
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Whuauuuu :D
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Part one, looks like the EPK obviously. Pretty early? I guess it will contain song snippets in the background for sure...
LE
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Great! It looks like Guy's diary part 4 is losing this race...
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Great! It looks like Guy's diary part 4 is losing this race...
Maybe diary 4 is for the next album hahahaha
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xg8Kqu44Yw (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xg8Kqu44Yw)
There's a video coming up tonight!
Thank you for your message :) I wonder if we'll hear seconds of new music
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"I guess it will contain song snippets in the background for sure...
I thought about that too :)
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It says part 1. How many video's we can expect??
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Part one, looks like the EPK obviously. Pretty early? I guess it will contain song snippets in the background for sure...
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There is already new music in the background of this very small advance.
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It says part 1. How many video's we can expect??
Who knows? I would not expect too much today, maybe only a few minutes which at the end after several dates will altogether make the complete usual 10 to 15 minutes EPK, maybe slightly more.
LE
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"The songs are deep". Well the album does say One Deep River so it does suggest that. ;D
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Wow, there is a lot going on since the single is out. Great!
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Too short. Sisters Topolski - Amen - One Deep River :)
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Too short as expected. I've heard some interesting things, it sounds like he's going back to an Americana style.
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WOW - The songs in the background of the video sound amazing! I hope the piano part during the interview with Greg Leisz is on the record! Also the snippet of One Deep River sounds so promising. Very beautiful! Can't wait for the album!
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Piano part sounds like Solid Rock 92.
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Now I can't wait even more.
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One Deep River (track) sounds so promising. Wow
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Now I can't wait even more.
Me too! I would guess there are 4 or 5 more videos to come.
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Now I can't wait even more.
Me too! I would guess there are 4 or 5 more videos to come.
Yes, it is possible because the first one is very short.
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Snippets of the new songs are promising. Very promising. 8)
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I'm wondering if Henrik Hansen did the filming. Anybody knows?
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Guys, I don't know about you but the second snippet struck me a lot, a sort of Brothers in Arms or Solid Rock (live)! WOWWWW!!! :D
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Guys, I don't know about you but the second snippet struck me a lot, a sort of Brothers in Arms or Solid Rock (live)! WOWWWW!!! :D
Solid Rock yes, i noticed it too
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The last part about the train leaving, is that One Deep River or another song?
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First snippet sounds like Altamira.
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The last part about the train leaving, is that One Deep River or another song?
Maybe: Before My Train Comes
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I feel the album is going to be very, very emotional :'(
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I listened again and again. I think its One Deep River, that must be an amazing song of what i have heard so far. That guitar bend at 2.41 immediately got me into tears.
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Same here; I have already watched it like five times and love it! I still feel just about nothing for "Ahead of the game", but this! Aaah <3 Smiles and tears from me too
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The first feragment is also amazing.
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They all sound better than Ahead of the Game!
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Nice clip! Not that the content or music are that different from the previous EPKs though ;) But the soundbytes sound promising. And I think because of the noticeably shorter running time than usual the album will feel a lot more cohesive, hopefully with more killers than fillers ;D
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The very first moments sound exactly as if they would coming from any J.J. Cale record, Broken Bones style. I have a fear that this sort of monotonous music will not only appear on Ahead Of The Game... ;D
P.S.
Wild guess: the first minutes are "Tumnel 13" .. Sounds like a train song anyway.
LE
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Apart from the short musical fragments, I really like the way he talks. Really as sharp and as eloquent as always. The Christie's interview was the same, I could listen to him talking this way for hours, also with his calming deep voice. I remember that I had very different feelings about this when the DTRW interview(s) appeared. He obviously was (mentally) not in the same good condition back then as he is now. He should try to get rid of that immense belly though. It's sooo unhealthy..
LE
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Announcing a new album 2.5 months before the release date is brutal. I love the feeling of anticipation for new music but at the same time I hate the waiting and hanging on to little snippets like your life depends on it - if you know what I mean. Dusty nailed it comparing it to being thirsty in the dessert...
I'd rather not hear anything until the D-Day but it's impossible not to hear it unless you disconnect from internet.
That being said... I really like what I'm hearing between the lines of talking.
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I feel the album is going to be very, very emotional :'(
I feel the same.
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Announcing a new album 2.5 months before the release date is brutal. I love the feeling of anticipation for new music but at the same time I hate the waiting and hanging on to little snippets like your life depends on it - if you know what I mean. Dusty nailed it comparing it to being thirsty in the dessert...
I'd rather not hear anything until the D-Day but it's impossible not to hear it unless you disconnect from internet.
That being said... I really like what I'm hearing between the lines of talking.
I don't remember how many MK tours I did putting the album listening on embargo until I attended my first gig of the tour.
The excitement of discovering the new songs by hearing them performed live on stage.
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The last part about the train leaving, is that One Deep River or another song?
Maybe: Before My Train Comes
One of the bridges over the "Deep River" it's a train bridge, so it can be both songs I guess.
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Very nice (intro?) sounds in the EPK. I hope that the atmosphere will continue to the main part. In the last album, there were quite a change between the intro and the rest of song is some of those.
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Very nice (intro?) sounds in the EPK. I hope that the atmosphere will continue to the main part. In the last album, there were quite a change between the intro and the rest of song is some of those.
I wonder if the first seconds from the EPK really are the intro of the song, or not maybe the outro.. I like that sound very much too, it was so cool guitar licks. Somewhere it was compared with Early Bird which fits, I earlier said Broken Bones and J.J. Cale style. I am really curious about this one.
Then the second clip sounds very unusual for me. it is pretty long repeating instrumental, atmospheric sound, almost like something from Local Hero. I wonder what kind of song that will be.
LE
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"Then the second clip sounds very unusual for me. it is pretty long repeating instrumental, atmospheric sound, almost like something from Local Hero. I wonder what kind of song that will be"
Yes, this part intrigued me too. It's got something from the 80s.
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What's that? Guy Fletcher noises?
Sorry, guys. All that i can rear are GF Noises.
The same "pulsar" from Speedway.
That phaser guitar sound like another 'Nobody Does That' or 'Broken Bones' for me.
A wide pallet of songs...
Hmmmm.... sounds like an alert to me.
I'm a hopeful pessimist
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The last part about the train leaving, is that One Deep River or another song?
Maybe: Before My Train Comes
One of the bridges over the "Deep River" it's a train bridge, so it can be both songs I guess.
Agree! I cannot (try to) check the key/chords now, but I think it could be the beginning of One Deep River.
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I'm a hopeful pessimist
No doubt about that. ;D
LE
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Very nice (intro?) sounds in the EPK. I hope that the atmosphere will continue to the main part. In the last album, there were quite a change between the intro and the rest of song is some of those.
I wonder if the first seconds from the EPK really are the intro of the song, or not maybe the outro.. I like that sound very much too, it was so cool guitar licks. Somewhere it was compared with Early Bird which fits, I earlier said Broken Bones and J.J. Cale style. I am really curious about this one.
Then the second clip sounds very unusual for me. it is pretty long repeating instrumental, atmospheric sound, almost like something from Local Hero. I wonder what kind of song that will be.
LE
Sounds a bit like the Solid Rock on the night intro
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No doubt about that. ;D
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;D
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Just for getting by
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I posted this to Guy:
Q:I was watching the video from the "One Deep River" record and listening to it, I think first instrumental piece we listen is "Tunnel 13", following instrumental piece, quite atmospheric, sounds to me like the introduction of "One deep river", then you have "Ahead of the game", after we have a small part of "One deep river", and at the end a small part of "Before my train comes". Which one I guessed right and which one wrong? 😉
» https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-xg8Kqu44Yw
A:4 out of 6 isn’t bad. I wouldn’t expect anyone to guess them all.
He says I got 4 good guesses from 6, but as far as I recall there are only four musical pieces in that video...
So, does he means that in other video there are two more songs, or there are six songs in that video that I didn't spotted? :hmm
:lol
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In my opinion it is 5. This moving guitar (4) is a different song. The fifth and last fragment is Before my train comes.
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Maybe that second instrumental piece is indeed an instrumental (and not the introduction to One Deep River) and he gave you another point for guessing that it is an instrumental.
LE
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In my opinion it is 5. This moving guitar (4) is a different song. The fifth and last fragment is Before my train comes.
Yes, I was thinking that, if the atmospheric music is not really the "Deep River" intro, it must be another song, maybe that's the one I got wrong ;)
The 4th is clearly One Deep River as you can hear MK lyrics.
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The second part is also a different song for me. Guy Fletcher is right : six :)
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The second part is also a different song for me. Guy Fletcher is right : six :)
which second part? I only listen five there... could you point each one with the timing of the video?
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1. The "Tunnel 13" sound
2. The instrumental synth Sound
3. Ahead of the Game
4. One Deep River (during Mike and John talking) starts at 2: 40
5. Before My Train Comes
LE
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1. The "Tunnel 13" sound
2. The instrumental synth Sound
3. Ahead of the Game
4. One Deep River (during Mike and John talking)
5. Before My Train Comes
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By what Robson says, seems there is a small piece of other song, maybe betwen "One deep river" and "Before my train comes"
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1. The "Tunnel 13" sound
2. The instrumental synth Sound
3. Ahead of the Game
4. One Deep River (during Mike and John talking)
5. Guitar solo different song :)
6. Before My Train Comes
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Okay, who's going to edit this and join the snippets together and get us a longer track? :lol
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This, people, is the purest definition of "Get-A-Lifers"
:lol :wave ;D
LE
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This, people, is the purest definition of "Get-A-Lifers"
:lol :wave ;D
LE
Yes, we are, and very proud!
:lol :lol :lol :lol
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Ok, so do I detect female background vocals on One Deep River? Quite nice!
LE
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1. The "Tunnel 13" sound
2. The instrumental synth Sound
3. Ahead of the Game
4. One Deep River (during Mike and John talking)
5. Guitar solo different song :)
6. Before My Train Comes
Track 05 starts at 3:46 and "Before my train comes" at 4:05?
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1. The "Tunnel 13" sound
2. The instrumental synth Sound
3. Ahead of the Game
4. One Deep River (during Mike and John talking)
5. Before My Train Comes
LE
By what Robson says, seems there is a small piece of other song, maybe betwen "One deep river" and "Before my train comes"
3:46 - 4:04 I don't think this is the song: Before my train comes
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1. The "Tunnel 13" sound
2. The instrumental synth Sound
3. Ahead of the Game
4. One Deep River (during Mike and John talking)
5. Guitar solo different song :)
6. Before My Train Comes
Track 05 starts at 3:46 and "Before my train comes" at 4:05?
Yes:)
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Ok, so do I detect female background vocals on One Deep River? Quite nice!
LE
Tamsin and Emma Topolski.
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I think 4,5,6 is all One Deep River. I tried to remove it with ai but it failed because of the talking. It sounds to me as the same song (2.41 to 4.19)
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I think 4,5,6 is all One Deep River. I tried to remove it with ai but it failed because of the talking. It sounds to me as the same song (2.41 to 4.19)
Agree, I think the same.
LE
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There is also pedal steel on One Deep River.
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There is also pedal steel on One Deep River.
Greg Leisz plays pedal steel, from memory he played it on tour with Clapton.
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There is also pedal steel on One Deep River.
Greg Leisz plays pedal steel, from memory he played it on tour with Clapton.
I know, so he plays it at least on 1 track 😉
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I think 4,5,6 is all One Deep River. I tried to remove it with ai but it failed because of the talking. It sounds to me as the same song (2.41 to 4.19)
But Guy Fletcher talks about 6 songs :think
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We'll know when the album is out but I don't think Guy can be mistaken, we are just missing something
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I can't believe that you are actually analysing and dissecting six microscopic pieces of songs... ;D
I love this forum.
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I can't believe that you are actually analysing and dissecting six microscopic pieces of songs... ;D
I love this forum.
The record comes out in April, we have to do something until that date, lol
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I love all of your "Private Investigations" :thumbsup
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As far as I understand Guy did not say there are 6 songs in the fragment. He just counted 6 assumptions made in the question, of which four are correct.
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As far as I understand Guy did not say there are 6 songs in the fragment. He just counted 6 assumptions made in the question, of which four are correct.
He counted 4 that jbaent mentions, but there are 6 fragments. That's how I understood it :)
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For example:
following instrumental piece, quite atmospheric, sounds to me like the introduction of "One deep river"
Assumption 1: this fragment comes from a intro of a song
Assumption 2: this fragment comes from the song One Deep River
From this statement you can have score of 0/2, 1/2 or 2/2
To me this comes across a something typical for Guy to state something very carefully that in fact is true but doesn’t give too much and/or can even be a bit misleading in an amusing way.
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That's true but why does Guy write 4 out 6.? :)
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1. First piece is Tunnel 13
2. Second piece is an intro
3. Second piece is One deep river
4. Third fragment is Ahead of the game
5. Fourth piece is One deep river
6. Last fragment is Before my train comes
4 of the above 6 are true. My guess: 2,4,5,6.
Just an interpretation.
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Hi guys. I read that you tried to give the name of the song to the snippets in the first part of the promo video. And what if the second snippet (the instrumental one) would be the intro of the first song (Two Pairs of Hands) as happened with the long intro of Trapper Man? ??? What do you think?
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Hi guys. I read that you tried to give the name of the song to the snippets in the first part of the promo video. And what if the second snippet (the instrumental one) would be the intro of the first song (Two Pairs of Hands) as happened with the long intro of Trapper Man? ??? What do you think?
Of course it can be so.
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markknopfler.com:
Devotees and newcomers will have their early favourites, perhaps including the funky opener ‘Two Pairs Of Hands,’ inspired by a story shared by percussionist Danny Cummings about a memorable malapropism; the classic riffing of ‘Ahead Of The Game’; the country swing of ‘Smart Money’: the gripping storytelling of ‘Scavengers Yard,’ ‘Tunnel 13’ and others; the closing nod to his beloved Tyne on ‘One Deep River,’ and the list goes on.
The title track reflects Knopfler’s deep affection for the river that ran through not just through his childhood, but his whole life. ‘Crossing the Tyne is always on your mind,’ he says. ‘It’s what you were doing when you were leaving as a youngster and that feeling is always the same every time you do it. You’re heading out or you’re coming back, and it just connects with your childhood. The power of it doesn’t go away.’
‘Ahead Of The Game’ has plenty to do with Mark’s own apprenticeship as a performing musician. ‘It all goes back to bands playing live,’ he says. ‘In some way, I was thinking about Nashville, because when I first went out there, it must have been in the early ’80s and all the bands in the bars downtown were playing the hits. And that’s fine.
‘What I was trying to say is that’s an achievement to actually get to a place where you’ve got employment, and you’ve got yourself a gig. I mean, statistically, what are the odds of making it? If you stopped to think about that, you’d hardly take a step further, would you?
‘’Two Pairs of Hands’ would just be a song trying to explain what it’s like coping with all of the info and trying to collate everything when you’re standing in the middle of the stage with a huge band. You’ve got a big audience around you and you’re just trying to process all of this stuff at the same time.’
‘Tunnel 13’ is a new example of Knopfler’s eye and ear for a gripping yarn, an instinct that goes back to his journalistic training in the years before Dire Straits became one of the biggest bands in the world. Reminiscent of his telling of the story of adventurers Mason and Dixon in ‘Sailing To Philadelphia,’ it centres on the real-life Western tale of a train robbery staged in the Siskiyou Mountains in 1923.
The song’s bridge to modern times is skilfully constructed, since the redwood used in the construction of the ‘Tunnel 13’ at the scene of that century-old crime became one of the most treasured woods in the making of the flat-top guitars that Knopfler reveres so much.
Those and a hundred other carefully-curated lyrical and musical details all go towards making One Deep River a new landmark in what is, for all of his innate modesty, a uniquely storied career. Says Knopfler of his undimmed motivation: ‘I’ve never heard a better definition of it since Gillian Welch told me one day: ‘All I want to do is write a good song and make a good record of it.’ Those two things sum it up for me.’
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It all sounds really promising.
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Has anyone tried to Shazam the clips?
When my band released a record we had to upload to Spotify etc way before it was actually released.
I tried Shazamming one of the tracks and it found it! So these clips may be on the Shazam server ahead of the release (but maybe not yet).
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Only Ahead of the Game was in Shazam... i tried it on monday
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The first piece of the video is two pairs of hand i guess then
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The first piece of the video is two pairs of hand i guess then
We thought it was Tunnel 13.
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The first piece of the video is two pairs of hand i guess then
We thought it was Tunnel 13.
Yeah i think thats wrong
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The question is whether "Two Pairs Of Hands" has a funky beat if it's the first fragment. For me, drums remind me of the rhythm of a train, that's why Tunel 13. :)
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Well it sounds like Broken Bones / Nobody does that. I call that funky
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All right. I do not deny. But I'm still close to Tunnel 13 in this part :)
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To me it sounds funky too!
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And why shouldn't there be two funky pieces on the album? It is just that I can literally HEAR that train on it's way to Tunnel 13 in that few seconds at the beginning of the video.
LE
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And why shouldn't there be two funky pieces on the album? It is just that I can literally HEAR that train on it's way to Tunnel 13 in that few seconds at the beginning of the video.
LE
I agree :)
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I have never heard of a funky train. Funny that you are all convinced of Tunnel 13. Time will tell.
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Has anyone tried to Shazam the clips?
When my band released a record we had to upload to Spotify etc way before it was actually released.
I tried Shazamming one of the tracks and it found it! So these clips may be on the Shazam server ahead of the release (but maybe not yet).
Yeah, I tried this the other day. Nothing yet, I’m afraid.
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I have never heard of a funky train. Funny that you are all convinced of Tunnel 13. Time will tell.
My money’s on it being Two Pairs of Hands.
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I won't say that the first track in the video is funky but I understand that some of you think that's funky.
For me it's more old Americana ala JJCale.
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I won't say that the first track in the video is funky but I understand that some of you think that's funky.
For me it's more old Americana ala JJCale.
Exactly.
LE
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I’ll be difficult by offering the opinion that JJ Cale was frequently funky. :)
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markknopfler.com is still under construction. Information about the new album that I copied a few days ago has disappeared :)
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I don't have access problem
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Is there information about One Deep River?
https://www.markknopfler.com/biography/
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Yes, I can see information as always
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Also at the link I posted earlier ?
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Yes, all
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I don't see anything in the tabs about One Deep River and the band. Strange:(
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I don't see anything in the tabs about One Deep River and the band. Strange:(
Maybe because there's something coming this week? :think
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I finally see news about the new album on markknopfler.com :)
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Second single coming soon?
7digital store
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Thank you!
Really, it is absolutely astonishing how fast you guys are getting these Informations. I would say it is impossible that any MK related news slips through and won't be detected by ANY member within 10, 15 minutes. Awesome!
LE
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Is there a snippet? Where is this from? 00.00 Spotify maybe? I think its quite soon... but who knows
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Is there a snippet? Where is this from? 00.00 Spotify maybe? I think its quite soon... but who knows
Yes! Snippet 30s
https://it.7digital.com/artist/mark-knopfler/release/watch-me-gone-37660298
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22 february... thats next week
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Is there a snippet? Where is this from? 00.00 Spotify maybe? I think its quite soon... but who knows
Yes! Snippet 30s
https://it.7digital.com/artist/mark-knopfler/release/watch-me-gone-37660298
Love these backing vocals. Oh yes and nice guitar driven track. Again no Synth nonsense. At least not in these 30 seconds. I love this style!
LE
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Sounds like the guitar part of the One Deep River video part 1. 1 out of the 6?
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Indeed. You are right.
It's true! :lol
LE
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What's going on here today. You can go crazy ::)
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Yes but don't you like it?
LE
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Contrary. I love :)
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Contrary. I love :)
:clap
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I loved this 30 sec preview! Can't wait for the full song
It seems he's abandoning the synths and horns sound of DRTW...good!
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So much happening and I am afraid to go to bed now! What will I miss?
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So much happening and I am afraid to go to bed now! What will I miss?
Yes, I have the same thing ;)
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I loved this 30 sec preview! Can't wait for the full song
It seems he's abandoning the synths and horns sound of DRTW...good!
The second excerpt from One Deep River part 2 is very synths and very nice, atmospheric ;)
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.1 two Pairs Of Hands
2. ???
3. Ahead of the game
4. One deep river
5. Watch Me Gone
6 before My Train Comes
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1 two Pairs Of Hands
This is not certain yet ;)
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Lap steel at the end there. Mark just strumming. :-\
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That's true but strumming in a cool way. It's one of the longer songs about 5 min. I am sure that guitar will get some little soloing in this one. But I am also aware that the virtuoso days are long gone.
LE
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Lap steel at the end there. Mark just strumming. :-\
Oh and I prefer some tasteful lap steel over brass and strange synth sounds every day. I just like that there seems to be rhythm guitar and strumming in the background all over the place in all snippets we know so far. Richard and Greg's contributions seem to be utilized in the best possible way.
LE
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Lap steel at the end there. Mark just strumming. :-\
It sounds like MK guitar for me at the end, not lap steel...
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Lap steel at the end there. Mark just strumming. :-\
It sounds like MK guitar for me at the end, not lap steel...
I thought that as well. Sounds like MK to me.
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Lap steel at the end there. Mark just strumming. :-\
It sounds like MK guitar for me at the end, not lap steel...
I thought that as well. Sounds like MK to me.
So Richard strumming then probably in his gentle style. Wondered about that because it was just fading out. Sounds nice.
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Lap steel at the end there. Mark just strumming. :-\
It sounds like MK guitar for me at the end, not lap steel...
I thought that as well. Sounds like MK to me.
yes. it's Mark on guitar with the volume pedal
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Yes! Snippet 30s
https://it.7digital.com/artist/mark-knopfler/release/watch-me-gone-37660298
Well, i am a pessimist that hopes to be wrong.
But... 30s of this... that backing vocals.... hmmmm
A BIG alert sounded.
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Yes! Snippet 30s
https://it.7digital.com/artist/mark-knopfler/release/watch-me-gone-37660298
Well, i am a pessimist that hopes to be wrong.
But... 30s of this... that backing vocals.... hmmmm
A BIG alert sounded.
4.30 left of the song, plenty of room for the stuff you like ;) What do you like?
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I'm astonished that those backing vocals already seem to be a little controversial. I think they sound exceptionally good and put a new flavour into Mark's music. I indeed hope there will be more of them on the record.
LE
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I'm astonished that those backing vocals already seem to be a little controversial. I think they sound exceptionally good and put a new flavour into Mark's music. I indeed hope there will be more of them on the record.
LE
That's because they sound different to what we are used to in MK songs.
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Oooh okay that's why. Thank you Sherlock :lol :wave
LE
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Oooh okay that's why. Thank you Sherlock :lol :wave
LE
You are welcome, Watson :lol :thumbsup
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I'm astonished that those backing vocals already seem to be a little controversial. I think they sound exceptionally good and put a new flavour into Mark's music. I indeed hope there will be more of them on the record.
LE
Exactly. And we know that these are only choirs, not duets. We know two songs:)
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I used to think that some new sounds and freshness would be good when it comes to MK albums but after Down The Road Wherever that changed. What I heard so far (which is not too much, ok) sounds absolutely fabulous and I really hope for nothing less then a Masterpiece.
LE
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.1 two Pairs Of Hands
2. ???
3. Ahead of the game
4. One deep river
5. Watch Me Gone
6 before My Train Comes
The last part (There's a train leaving... are you coming?) also could be a verse of Watch Me Gone...
What do you think? Sounds like 1 song... (but yeah, before i thought it was all (4,5,6) One Deep River)
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.1 two Pairs Of Hands
2. ???
3. Ahead of the game
4. One deep river
5. Watch Me Gone
6 before My Train Comes
The last part (There's a train leaving... are you coming?) also could be a verse of Watch Me Gone...
What do you think? Sounds like 1 song... (but yeah, before i thought it was all (4,5,6) One Deep River)
I thought so too.
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When Tracker was released, it was a big shock for me.
After Chuck leave his shoes to GF, the thing seems to follow a strange path.
Tracker has some 'unfinished' vibe, DTRW is a mess and ODR seems to me that will follow the same premise that his predecessor. It means, MK gave power to GF do anything he wants on his songs. After few reunions during pre-production, Mark give his 'ok' to an GF ideas and that's it.
Well, in other hand, i doubt that MK still have the strenght to ensure 100% of his albums (this is normal considering the aging effect) so, he deliver most of the role to GF.
Chuck and GF have different visions.
To my taste, i preffer the first.
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When Tracker was released, it was a big shock for me.
After Chuck leave his shoes to GF, the thing seems to follow a strange path.
Tracker has some 'unfinished' vibe, DTRW is a mess and ODR seems to me that will follow the same premise that his predecessor. It means, MK gave power to GF do anything he wants on his songs. After few reunions during pre-production, Mark give his 'ok' to an GF ideas and that's it.
Well, in other hand, i doubt that MK still have the strenght to ensure 100% of his albums (this is normal considering the aging effect) so, he deliver most of the role to GF.
Chuck and GF have different visions.
To my taste, i preffer the first.
Interesting take. I find the production pretty indistinguishable overall, aside from some "cool" modern sounding stuff from Guy on DTRW.
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When Tracker was released, it was a big shock for me.
After Chuck leave his shoes to GF, the thing seems to follow a strange path.
Tracker has some 'unfinished' vibe, DTRW is a mess and ODR seems to me that will follow the same premise that his predecessor. It means, MK gave power to GF do anything he wants on his songs. After few reunions during pre-production, Mark give his 'ok' to an GF ideas and that's it.
Well, in other hand, i doubt that MK still have the strenght to ensure 100% of his albums (this is normal considering the aging effect) so, he deliver most of the role to GF.
Chuck and GF have different visions.
To my taste, i preffer the first.
I agree. I translated this position all the way from the release of Tracker. We are in the minority though. I love Chuck. When you listen to his interviews, it's as if you listen to Mark with a deeper voice and longer hair, that's how similar their views of things are. Chuck is such a class act.
Guy is different. You can tell they are different. Maybe it's Mark's way of "freshen things up". If that was the goal, then they succeeded 100%. Guy brings this fresh, younger side, for better or worse. Considering it's not the first album done in this fashion, the authors are completely satisfied with it.
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When Tracker was released, it was a big shock for me.
After Chuck leave his shoes to GF, the thing seems to follow a strange path.
Tracker has some 'unfinished' vibe, DTRW is a mess and ODR seems to me that will follow the same premise that his predecessor. It means, MK gave power to GF do anything he wants on his songs. After few reunions during pre-production, Mark give his 'ok' to an GF ideas and that's it.
Well, in other hand, i doubt that MK still have the strenght to ensure 100% of his albums (this is normal considering the aging effect) so, he deliver most of the role to GF.
Chuck and GF have different visions.
To my taste, i preffer the first.
Interesting take. I find the production pretty indistinguishable overall, aside from some "cool" modern sounding stuff from Guy on DTRW.
But that's exactly the difference. It can't be all the same, the human factor is huge. I mean yes, Mark's records from 2006 sound so similar you can barely tell to which album each song belongs if you're not a die-hard fan, but that's because of the same studio and the same people making it. Production differences are very subtle. Little sounds here and there, little decisions here and there. But over time, these differences become big and noticeable.
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Interesting take. I find the production pretty indistinguishable overall, aside from some "cool" modern sounding stuff from Guy on DTRW.
I think that the 'musician' GF sobrepose the Engineer/Producer GF.
In other words, GF is a simplistic musician that tries to do some "complicated" stuff, with sound plastic and non-organic. To correct the mess, he inserts some synths and weird sequencer beats.
I am sure that Chuck can play a good guitar, piano or other instrument. But he don't let his musician side to interfere on his amazing 'listener' side.
In case of GF, its a snow ball, one side affect the other.
So, the ball keep growing and growing
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I agree. I translated this position all the way from the release of Tracker. We are in the minority though. I love Chuck. When you listen to his interviews, it's as if you listen to Mark with a deeper voice and longer hair, that's how similar their views of things are. Chuck is such a class act.
Guy is different. You can tell they are different. Maybe it's Mark's way of "freshen things up". If that was the goal, then they succeeded 100%. Guy brings this fresh, younger side, for better or worse. Considering it's not the first album done in this fashion, the authors are completely satisfied with it.
"Guy brings the younger side"
I think that is the stranger thing about recent MK music (I mean, since GF assumed the major role on MK's music) because MK is the opposite of younger music.
Stranger than that is the peak charts that shows Tracker and DTRW in greater positions than STP and SL (not considering the sell factor)
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mark_Knopfler_discography
In a generic way, GF production/direction is transforming MK in a Generic Artists.
Well, what appears to me is that the world prefers this Rod Stewart/Michael Bolton and lazy singering version of MK.
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I'm astonished that those backing vocals already seem to be a little controversial. I think they sound exceptionally good and put a new flavour into Mark's music. I indeed hope there will be more of them on the record.
LE
I agree. One of the reasons I love Tracker so much is Ruth Moody's voice on Basil, Skydiver, Long Cool Girl and WIG
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I agree. One of the reasons I love Tracker so much is Ruth Moody's voice on Basil, Skydiver, Long Cool Girl and WIG
Personally will be happy never to hear of her again and it seems there's a good chance as she's disappeared into obscurity.
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Greg is a lap steel player so he could feature on this one.
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The latest diary is online including the boy ep
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I agree. One of the reasons I love Tracker so much is Ruth Moody's voice on Basil, Skydiver, Long Cool Girl and WIG
Personally will be happy never to hear of her again and it seems there's a good chance as she's disappeared into obscurity.
I don’t particularly like “Wherever I go” but I enjoy her voice and I LOVE her solo albums. I’m grateful to MK for introducing me to her as a solo artist.
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I agree. One of the reasons I love Tracker so much is Ruth Moody's voice on Basil, Skydiver, Long Cool Girl and WIG
Personally will be happy never to hear of her again and it seems there's a good chance as she's disappeared into obscurity.
I don’t particularly like “Wherever I go” but I enjoy her voice and I LOVE her solo albums. I’m grateful to MK for introducing me to her as a solo artist.
I like "Wherever I Go" live more than the studio version. I have both "The Garden" and "These Wilder Things" on CD and like both, but "These Wilder Things" is my favourite.
I saw Ruth and her band in 2013 at "The Band Room" in the wilds of Farndale in the North York Moors. It was held in a tiny corrugated shed-type building which held around 100 people. Ruth and her band were excellent and in the interval some of the villagers came round with chocolate cake! At the end whilst Ruth was signing my CD the lights went out and we were in complete darkness. Ruth's signature was just a scribble, but that is what reminds me of what was happening at that moment. :)
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https://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/2023-studio-diary-4/
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Thanks!
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Personally will be happy never to hear of her again and it seems there's a good chance as she's disappeared into obscurity.
LOL!
I think maybe that was the reason that the amazing Imelda May didn't appear much on DTRW
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I agree. One of the reasons I love Tracker so much is Ruth Moody's voice on Basil, Skydiver, Long Cool Girl and WIG
Personally will be happy never to hear of her again and it seems there's a good chance as she's disappeared into obscurity.
Ouch!
According to her website she has a six year old child so no surprise if she took some time off to raise a child.
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I agree. One of the reasons I love Tracker so much is Ruth Moody's voice on Basil, Skydiver, Long Cool Girl and WIG
Personally will be happy never to hear of her again and it seems there's a good chance as she's disappeared into obscurity.
I don’t particularly like “Wherever I go” but I enjoy her voice and I LOVE her solo albums. I’m grateful to MK for introducing me to her as a solo artist.
I like "Wherever I Go" live more than the studio version. I have both "The Garden" and "These Wilder Things" on CD and like both, but "These Wilder Things" is my favourite.
I saw Ruth and her band in 2013 at "The Band Room" in the wilds of Farndale in the North York Moors. It was held in a tiny corrugated shed-type building which held around 100 people. Ruth and her band were excellent and in the interval some of the villagers came round with chocolate cake! At the end whilst Ruth was signing my CD the lights went out and we were in complete darkness. Ruth's signature was just a scribble, but that is what reminds me of what was happening at that moment. :)
I think I recall a clip of this gig on YouTube where she’s chatting with someone who saw her supporting MK and she comments something like “you get around don’t you?”
Was that you?!?
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I agree. One of the reasons I love Tracker so much is Ruth Moody's voice on Basil, Skydiver, Long Cool Girl and WIG
Personally will be happy never to hear of her again and it seems there's a good chance as she's disappeared into obscurity.
I don’t particularly like “Wherever I go” but I enjoy her voice and I LOVE her solo albums. I’m grateful to MK for introducing me to her as a solo artist.
I like "Wherever I Go" live more than the studio version. I have both "The Garden" and "These Wilder Things" on CD and like both, but "These Wilder Things" is my favourite.
I saw Ruth and her band in 2013 at "The Band Room" in the wilds of Farndale in the North York Moors. It was held in a tiny corrugated shed-type building which held around 100 people. Ruth and her band were excellent and in the interval some of the villagers came round with chocolate cake! At the end whilst Ruth was signing my CD the lights went out and we were in complete darkness. Ruth's signature was just a scribble, but that is what reminds me of what was happening at that moment. :)
I think I recall a clip of this gig on YouTube where she’s chatting with someone who saw her supporting MK and she comments something like “you get around don’t you?”
Was that you?!?
I did tell her that I had seen her about a week before at the RAH, but I don't remember her saying that, but she may have done. She spoke to lots of people during the interval and at the end of the show. She was very friendly and seemed a nice person. :)
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I agree. One of the reasons I love Tracker so much is Ruth Moody's voice on Basil, Skydiver, Long Cool Girl and WIG
Personally will be happy never to hear of her again and it seems there's a good chance as she's disappeared into obscurity.
I don’t particularly like “Wherever I go” but I enjoy her voice and I LOVE her solo albums. I’m grateful to MK for introducing me to her as a solo artist.
I like "Wherever I Go" live more than the studio version. I have both "The Garden" and "These Wilder Things" on CD and like both, but "These Wilder Things" is my favourite.
I saw Ruth and her band in 2013 at "The Band Room" in the wilds of Farndale in the North York Moors. It was held in a tiny corrugated shed-type building which held around 100 people. Ruth and her band were excellent and in the interval some of the villagers came round with chocolate cake! At the end whilst Ruth was signing my CD the lights went out and we were in complete darkness. Ruth's signature was just a scribble, but that is what reminds me of what was happening at that moment. :)
I think I recall a clip of this gig on YouTube where she’s chatting with someone who saw her supporting MK and she comments something like “you get around don’t you?”
Was that you?!?
I did tell her that I had seen her about a week before at the RAH, but I don't remember her saying that, but she may have done. She spoke to lots of people during the interval and at the end of the show. She was very friendly and seemed a nice person. :)
Absolutely she is. At the meet and greet I attended in 2015 she sang only a couple of metres away from me with only a couple of acoustic instruments (Richard and Ian) for company and her voice is so sweet.
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I agree. One of the reasons I love Tracker so much is Ruth Moody's voice on Basil, Skydiver, Long Cool Girl and WIG
Personally will be happy never to hear of her again and it seems there's a good chance as she's disappeared into obscurity.
I don’t particularly like “Wherever I go” but I enjoy her voice and I LOVE her solo albums. I’m grateful to MK for introducing me to her as a solo artist.
I like "Wherever I Go" live more than the studio version. I have both "The Garden" and "These Wilder Things" on CD and like both, but "These Wilder Things" is my favourite.
I saw Ruth and her band in 2013 at "The Band Room" in the wilds of Farndale in the North York Moors. It was held in a tiny corrugated shed-type building which held around 100 people. Ruth and her band were excellent and in the interval some of the villagers came round with chocolate cake! At the end whilst Ruth was signing my CD the lights went out and we were in complete darkness. Ruth's signature was just a scribble, but that is what reminds me of what was happening at that moment. :)
I think I recall a clip of this gig on YouTube where she’s chatting with someone who saw her supporting MK and she comments something like “you get around don’t you?”
Was that you?!?
I did tell her that I had seen her about a week before at the RAH, but I don't remember her saying that, but she may have done. She spoke to lots of people during the interval and at the end of the show. She was very friendly and seemed a nice person. :)
I’m sure it’s not the same. Just recalled the clip and your account seemed similar.
I remember speaking to her at the RAH. She was lovely, I felt cheeky as she’d spelled my name wrong so asked for an extra t at the end….but she was kind and added it
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I agree. One of the reasons I love Tracker so much is Ruth Moody's voice on Basil, Skydiver, Long Cool Girl and WIG
Personally will be happy never to hear of her again and it seems there's a good chance as she's disappeared into obscurity.
I don’t particularly like “Wherever I go” but I enjoy her voice and I LOVE her solo albums. I’m grateful to MK for introducing me to her as a solo artist.
I like "Wherever I Go" live more than the studio version. I have both "The Garden" and "These Wilder Things" on CD and like both, but "These Wilder Things" is my favourite.
I saw Ruth and her band in 2013 at "The Band Room" in the wilds of Farndale in the North York Moors. It was held in a tiny corrugated shed-type building which held around 100 people. Ruth and her band were excellent and in the interval some of the villagers came round with chocolate cake! At the end whilst Ruth was signing my CD the lights went out and we were in complete darkness. Ruth's signature was just a scribble, but that is what reminds me of what was happening at that moment. :)
I think I recall a clip of this gig on YouTube where she’s chatting with someone who saw her supporting MK and she comments something like “you get around don’t you?”
Was that you?!?
I did tell her that I had seen her about a week before at the RAH, but I don't remember her saying that, but she may have done. She spoke to lots of people during the interval and at the end of the show. She was very friendly and seemed a nice person. :)
https://youtu.be/8mLWKg97ea0?si=0iqGhPkvRmfpN90g
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I agree. One of the reasons I love Tracker so much is Ruth Moody's voice on Basil, Skydiver, Long Cool Girl and WIG
Personally will be happy never to hear of her again and it seems there's a good chance as she's disappeared into obscurity.
I don’t particularly like “Wherever I go” but I enjoy her voice and I LOVE her solo albums. I’m grateful to MK for introducing me to her as a solo artist.
I like "Wherever I Go" live more than the studio version. I have both "The Garden" and "These Wilder Things" on CD and like both, but "These Wilder Things" is my favourite.
I saw Ruth and her band in 2013 at "The Band Room" in the wilds of Farndale in the North York Moors. It was held in a tiny corrugated shed-type building which held around 100 people. Ruth and her band were excellent and in the interval some of the villagers came round with chocolate cake! At the end whilst Ruth was signing my CD the lights went out and we were in complete darkness. Ruth's signature was just a scribble, but that is what reminds me of what was happening at that moment. :)
I think I recall a clip of this gig on YouTube where she’s chatting with someone who saw her supporting MK and she comments something like “you get around don’t you?”
Was that you?!?
I did tell her that I had seen her about a week before at the RAH, but I don't remember her saying that, but she may have done. She spoke to lots of people during the interval and at the end of the show. She was very friendly and seemed a nice person. :)
https://youtu.be/8mLWKg97ea0?si=0iqGhPkvRmfpN90g
Studio version from MK :)
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I agree. One of the reasons I love Tracker so much is Ruth Moody's voice on Basil, Skydiver, Long Cool Girl and WIG
Personally will be happy never to hear of her again and it seems there's a good chance as she's disappeared into obscurity.
I don’t particularly like “Wherever I go” but I enjoy her voice and I LOVE her solo albums. I’m grateful to MK for introducing me to her as a solo artist.
I like "Wherever I Go" live more than the studio version. I have both "The Garden" and "These Wilder Things" on CD and like both, but "These Wilder Things" is my favourite.
I saw Ruth and her band in 2013 at "The Band Room" in the wilds of Farndale in the North York Moors. It was held in a tiny corrugated shed-type building which held around 100 people. Ruth and her band were excellent and in the interval some of the villagers came round with chocolate cake! At the end whilst Ruth was signing my CD the lights went out and we were in complete darkness. Ruth's signature was just a scribble, but that is what reminds me of what was happening at that moment. :)
I think I recall a clip of this gig on YouTube where she’s chatting with someone who saw her supporting MK and she comments something like “you get around don’t you?”
Was that you?!?
I did tell her that I had seen her about a week before at the RAH, but I don't remember her saying that, but she may have done. She spoke to lots of people during the interval and at the end of the show. She was very friendly and seemed a nice person. :)
https://youtu.be/8mLWKg97ea0?si=0iqGhPkvRmfpN90g
Wasn't me, but I was at this concert.
Lovely evening and Ruth is sweet too.
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HAJEPE's youtube account, That's Henk Pestman i guess
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Was watching the EPK video pt. 1 (again) and wonder who the person around 1:25 with the long blonde hair is, sitting next to Guy and smiling?
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Was watching the EPK video pt. 1 (again) and wonder who the person around 1:25 with the long blonde hair is, sitting next to Guy and smiling?
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Possibly Eve from Diary # 2
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Indeed Eve:
https://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/2022-studio-diary-2/#jp-carousel-40197
https://www.guyfletcher.co.uk/2022-studio-diary-2/#jp-carousel-40223
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With "Ahead of the game" released in late January, "Watch me gone" in late February, should be expect another track released in late March, as far as the record would be out in April?
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SECOND PART OF THE VIDEO:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=trqIfpJTBh8
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With "Ahead of the game" released in late January, "Watch me gone" in late February, should be expect another track released in late March, as far as the record would be out in April?
I think so, it could be a radio single as well as Ahead of the Game, given that there will be an album release.
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There will almost certainly be another song made available before the album is released. New albums, especially by established artists invariably have at least three or four songs released prior to the album itself these days. Personally I’m avoiding hearing anymore after Ahead of the Game. Have successfully avoided hearing Watch Me Gone so far. It’s going to be a painful seven weeks or so!
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I suspect that if we do get another track before the album release, it’ll be the week before, not earlier. Reason? I think Going Home is going to be providing enough MK exposure for several weeks from mid March.
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Apparantly Guy decided which tracks are bonus or boxset songs...
Or maybe he decided the whole order, a little language barrier mixed with a short answer from Guy to an extensive question.
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Apparantly Guy decided which tracks are bonus or boxset songs...
Or maybe he decided the whole order, a little language barrier mixed with a short answer from Guy to an extensive question.
I am surprised. Mark always decided which songs would be bonus tracks. If I understand correctly the bonus tracks are Guy's choice:
The Living End
Fat chance Dupree
Along the foreign coast
What I'll need
Nothing but rain
Or from vinyl?
Dolly the Salesman
Your leading man
Wrong 'un
Chess
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Apparantly Guy decided which tracks are bonus or boxset songs...
Or maybe he decided the whole order, a little language barrier mixed with a short answer from Guy to an extensive question.
I am surprised. Mark always decided which songs would be bonus tracks. If I understand correctly the bonus tracks are Guy's choice:
The Living End
Fat chance Dupree
Along the foreign coast
What I'll need
Nothing but rain
Or from vinyl?
Dolly the Salesman
Your leading man
Wrong 'un
Chess
I remember I was laughing back when Tracker or Down The Road was released, with this momentum going soon we'll see Guy sharing a writing credit with Mark on one of the songs on the next album. It's unbelievable how much power is in GF's hands now, even selecting the tracks and all. A joint credit is not too far-fetched at all. More tape, more tape, hail the tape!
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Option one : Mark has the final go on them, so who cares who choosed as long as it is Mark approuved.
Otion two : Mark did not want to be bored with extra tracks selection and let someone else to do the job. As usual. The only change is that we know the name of the guy who did it.
25 new songs by Mark ?
Way too much not to let some in the bin.
8 to 10 songs and 45 minutes sounds like great numbrers to my ears :think
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Mark does not waste any time for such descisions
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Mark does not waste any time for such descisions
...sounds like a definition of "I don't care". It's your supposed last album, what about bonus tracks? Who cares, put them however you want, on whatever medium you want. Half of the songs are bonus tracks? Who cares! Put them in any order. It reminds me of the famous story when Mark and Phil were recording the "On Every Street" outro riff for the whole day, and after that Mark decided the engineer would choose the best take. Mark is King!
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Nobody said it would his last record, actually Guy said the opposite a couple of times.
If this record is deep in the same vain than this song, it's going to be tough for many here, lol
Seems that in terms of guitar player, we're going to listen very little stuff if all songs have playing similar to the two songs we already heard.
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Apparantly Guy decided which tracks are bonus or boxset songs...
Or maybe he decided the whole order, a little language barrier mixed with a short answer from Guy to an extensive question.
I am surprised. Mark always decided which songs would be bonus tracks. If I understand correctly the bonus tracks are Guy's choice:
The Living End
Fat chance Dupree
Along the foreign coast
What I'll need
Nothing but rain
Or from vinyl?
Dolly the Salesman
Your leading man
Wrong 'un
Chess
I remember I was laughing back when Tracker or Down The Road was released, with this momentum going soon we'll see Guy sharing a writing credit with Mark on one of the songs on the next album. It's unbelievable how much power is in GF's hands now, even selecting the tracks and all. A joint credit is not too far-fetched at all. More tape, more tape, hail the tape!
Was thinking this too. As each album and tour passes, the more influence I sense Guy has on it, on the production of albums, credited musical director on tour etc. and the more boring they have become.
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He is Mark 's right arm for many years and has now taken over long time collaborator Chuck.
Mark is the boss and if one horse has to be beatten it's him.
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Maybe we forget about the official announcement of the album. If it is true, it is not good news for everyone who is waiting for a faster pace of MK :)
Mark Knopfler will release his tenth solo studio album on April 12th 2024 on his own British Grove label via EMI. Entitled One Deep River, it features 12 unhurriedly elegant new Knopfler songs, and his warm Geordie vocal tone, his poetic storytelling lyrics and deft, richly melodic guitar playing are all present and correct and as dazzling as ever.
One Deep River offers an unstoppable flow of future Knopfler classics, with their customarily learned lyrics and refined guitar textures. They draw on a lifetime of genre-crossing ingredients and influences in blues, folk, rock and beyond, and as usual, reveal their charms with unhurried grace and depth.
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I just don't understand why some people can't accept Mark is a different person these days, he is never going to be the long guitar solos man ever again, so, why expect him to make songs like that? He is being true to himself in that way. I like the more laidback Mark now, we will always have those epic songs to listen to, now, it's about something different, and I praise him for that. It's lots of new Knopfler songs I always want, I am not bothered about the solo's anymore.
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He is Mark 's right arm for many years and has now taken over long time collaborator Chuck.
Mark is the boss and if one horse has to be beatten it's him.
Guy himself admitted that Mark's "bossiness" has mellowed down over the years, and he's not as fearless and perfectionist of a leader as he used to be. And so you get outsourced production, track selection, most certainly arranging in many cases, non-symmetric album covers and everything in between. Ageing sucks.
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I just don't understand why some people can't accept Mark is a different person these days, he is never going to be the long guitar solos man ever again, so, why expect him to make songs like that? He is being true to himself in that way. I like the more laidback Mark now, we will always have those epic songs to listen to, now, it's about something different, and I praise him for that. It's lots of new Knopfler songs I always want, I am not bothered about the solo's anymore.
:thumbsup Exactly!
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I'm wondering if everyone who just wants to hear new Mark Knopfler songs has listened to all the songs from the Local Hero musical?
Because if not, you have more than 20 great songs to discover.
Yes, they are not performed by MK and his band, and we don't have them in great quality, but even in bootleg form there are some fantastic MK songs there for you to enjoy.
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I have only heard 1 song from the musical, so I am missing out on lots of songs.
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Half of the songs of Local Hero musical are the typical musical songs with most of the cast singing, but the other half could be easily on any MK solo record and they would be instant favourites for some of you, I'm sure.
Two of my all times MK songs favourites are in that musical.
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Half of the songs of Local Hero musical are the typical musical songs with most of the cast singing, but the other half could be easily on any MK solo record and they would be instant favourites for some of you, I'm sure.
Two of my all times MK songs favourites are in that musical.
It's true.
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Half of the songs of Local Hero musical are the typical musical songs with most of the cast singing, but the other half could be easily on any MK solo record and they would be instant favourites for some of you, I'm sure.
Two of my all times MK songs favourites are in that musical.
Which songs would be instant favourites?
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Half of the songs of Local Hero musical are the typical musical songs with most of the cast singing, but the other half could be easily on any MK solo record and they would be instant favourites for some of you, I'm sure.
Two of my all times MK songs favourites are in that musical.
Which songs would be instant favourites?
Houston we have a problem
What a life
Rocks and water
Filthy dirty rich
I wonder if i come go home again
Cheerio away ye go
Numbers
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I'm wondering if everyone who just wants to hear new Mark Knopfler songs has listened to all the songs from the Local Hero musical?
........................, but even in bootleg form there are some fantastic MK songs there for you to enjoy.
I never heard any of these songs before, what bootleg are you talking about ?
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I'm wondering if everyone who just wants to hear new Mark Knopfler songs has listened to all the songs from the Local Hero musical?
........................, but even in bootleg form there are some fantastic MK songs there for you to enjoy.
I never heard any of these songs before, what bootleg are you talking about ?
There are audience recordings of Edinburgh and Chichester but circulating in private, I'm sure someone would share them with you if you want them.
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I just don't understand why some people can't accept Mark is a different person these days, he is never going to be the long guitar solos man ever again, so, why expect him to make songs like that? He is being true to himself in that way. I like the more laidback Mark now, we will always have those epic songs to listen to, now, it's about something different, and I praise him for that. It's lots of new Knopfler songs I always want, I am not bothered about the solo's anymore.
Exactly my thoughts! :thumbsup
Mark has given us so many great songs in the past and continues to give us wonderful music today, so all we need to do is say THANK YOU, nothing else.
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THANK YOU, nothing else.
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THANK YOU, nothing else.
Should we close the forum then? :hmm :D
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THANK YOU, nothing else.
Should we close the forum then? :hmm :D
And where is this written?
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THANK YOU, nothing else.
Should we close the forum then? :hmm :D
And where is this written?
If there is nothing left to say... then we can close the forum. That's what Quizzy means.
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I just don't understand why some people can't accept Mark is a different person these days, he is never going to be the long guitar solos man ever again, so, why expect him to make songs like that? He is being true to himself in that way. I like the more laidback Mark now, we will always have those epic songs to listen to, now, it's about something different, and I praise him for that. It's lots of new Knopfler songs I always want, I am not bothered about the solo's anymore.
Yes to that. And while most of his newer songs are definitely "unhurried", they can still be epic. Lights of Taormina, The Fish and the Bird, Follow the Ribbon, Silver Eagle, Seattle, Just a Boy Aways from Home ... all of them slow, and all of them epic.
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THANK YOU, nothing else.
Should we close the forum then? :hmm :D
And where is this written?
If there is nothing left to say... then we can close the forum. That's what Quizzy means.
It was a simple thank you for what we received. And that's all. We so rarely say thank you.
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THANK YOU, nothing else.
Should we close the forum then? :hmm :D
And where is this written?
If there is nothing left to say... then we can close the forum. That's what Quizzy means.
It was a simple thank you for what we received. And that's all. We so rarely say thank you.
We say thank you every single time we spent any coin on anything MK does, records, concerts, merchandise, memorabilia, whatever...
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THANK YOU, nothing else.
Should we close the forum then? :hmm :D
And where is this written?
If there is nothing left to say... then we can close the forum. That's what Quizzy means.
It was a simple thank you for what we received. And that's all. We so rarely say thank you.
We say thank you every single time we spent any coin on anything MK does, records, concerts, merchandise, memorabilia, whatever...
And the fact that this forum exists is, in itself, the biggest thank you there could be.
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About "unhurried" (some will say: boring) music:
I was listening to Neil Young's "Harvest" for the very first time yesterday. Call me a total ignorant (and you'll be right), but somehow I never got to Neil Young up to this date. I saw the album mentioned somewhere, and thought I'd give it a listen. I was unaware of the fact that this is his signature album, and was a billboard no. 1 back then. I just thought: Okay, here's an album that some people seem to like, let's see how it is.
Now, the reason I'm mentioning this: The album is good, I liked it a lot. But in no way is it something that immediately says: hit record! It's totally unassuming, simple melodies, (mostly) sparse arrangements, temperate guitars and singing. Nothing groundbreaking even for 1972, nothing bold or loud or risky or experimental. But still very good! There's not one song on it that I didn't like, and several of them I found touching. In short: "Harvest" is in no way better or more surprising on a first listen than what I've heard of Mark's upcoming album so far. And still it seems to have achieved legendary status over time!
I think this status - and Neil Young's in general - may be well deserved. But my reaction, I think, shows that a great record doesn't always need flashy guitar solos, 15-minute song epics, stadium-compatible sing-along choruses or wild experimentation. There is such a thing as "unhurried grace", and it can be great, too. I'm quite confident that "One Deep River" will deliver exactly that.
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Is there anyone who knows something more about the box set?
It's not listed on Swedish or German Amazon. Nor is it offered on regular webstores within Sweden. Other sites has it, but to 3 times the price of MK.com
Is it time to give up and just place an order with the official store?
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Just wait, it will appear sooner or later.
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About "unhurried" (some will say: boring) music:
I was listening to Neil Young's "Harvest" for the very first time yesterday. Call me a total ignorant (and you'll be right), but somehow I never got to Neil Young up to this date. I saw the album mentioned somewhere, and thought I'd give it a listen. I was unaware of the fact that this is his signature album, and was a billboard no. 1 back then. I just thought: Okay, here's an album that some people seem to like, let's see how it is.
Now, the reason I'm mentioning this: The album is good, I liked it a lot. But in no way is it something that immediately says: hit record! It's totally unassuming, simple melodies, (mostly) sparse arrangements, temperate guitars and singing. Nothing groundbreaking even for 1972, nothing bold or loud or risky or experimental. But still very good! There's not one song on it that I didn't like, and several of them I found touching. In short: "Harvest" is in no way better or more surprising on a first listen than what I've heard of Mark's upcoming album so far. And still it seems to have achieved legendary status over time!
Harvest is a fantastic record and an undeniable classic. But, the comparison with Mark seems farfetched. First, there are a couple of heavy songs musically speaking, in Alabama and Words. Second, this is almost a collection of Young's best songs, at least some of them. Old Man, Needle, Out on the Weekend... Lyrics, singing, guitar playing, and overall mood are simply striking in each one. And there is tension. It sounds as if life depends on it.
Mark has always produced slow songs, but they used to be in the minority, unlike now. More problematic for me, though, is that they are often devoid of tension these days, and sound similar to the point of being interchangeable, frequently lacking proper hooks.
The whole focus on "storytelling" has always had the effect of maintaining a certain distance, with songs about boxers and ships and what not. More personal lyrics, like on the latest single, sounds promising in theory, but the music leaves me flat.
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https://www.gratefulweb.com/articles/mark-knopflers-one-deep-river-review
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https://www.gratefulweb.com/articles/mark-knopflers-one-deep-river-review
Reviews! Start! Thank you.
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About "unhurried" (some will say: boring) music:
I was listening to Neil Young's "Harvest" for the very first time yesterday. Call me a total ignorant (and you'll be right), but somehow I never got to Neil Young up to this date. I saw the album mentioned somewhere, and thought I'd give it a listen. I was unaware of the fact that this is his signature album, and was a billboard no. 1 back then. I just thought: Okay, here's an album that some people seem to like, let's see how it is.
Now, the reason I'm mentioning this: The album is good, I liked it a lot. But in no way is it something that immediately says: hit record! It's totally unassuming, simple melodies, (mostly) sparse arrangements, temperate guitars and singing. Nothing groundbreaking even for 1972, nothing bold or loud or risky or experimental. But still very good! There's not one song on it that I didn't like, and several of them I found touching. In short: "Harvest" is in no way better or more surprising on a first listen than what I've heard of Mark's upcoming album so far. And still it seems to have achieved legendary status over time!
Harvest is a fantastic record and an undeniable classic. But, the comparison with Mark seems farfetched. First, there are a couple of heavy songs musically speaking, in Alabama and Words. Second, this is almost a collection of Young's best songs, at least some of them. Old Man, Needle, Out on the Weekend... Lyrics, singing, guitar playing, and overall mood are simply striking in each one. And there is tension. It sounds as if life depends on it.
Mark has always produced slow songs, but they used to be in the minority, unlike now. More problematic for me, though, is that they are often devoid of tension these days, and sound similar to the point of being interchangeable, frequently lacking proper hooks.
The whole focus on "storytelling" has always had the effect of maintaining a certain distance, with songs about boxers and ships and what not. More personal lyrics, like on the latest single, sounds promising in theory, but the music leaves me flat.
I think I see where you're coming from, but my experience is a very different one. When you say that Mark's recent music leaves you flat, I'll have to say that for me the opposite is true. I'm deeply touched by by certain songs on each of his albums, and that's as true for his solo albums just as it is for Dire Straits records. Actually, the songs that touch me most of all might be from his solo career. Do they have as much tension as, say, "In the Gallery" or some of Neil Young's songs? They certainly don't. But tension isn't everything. Take a song like Mark's "Silver Eagle" - zero tension, but an awful lot of melancholy (or whatever that feeling might be). I leaves me stunned every time I hear it. More so than anything on "Harvest", to be honest. And I could name dozens of other Knopfler songs that do the same or something similar for me.
I wouldn't want to doubt your judgement in any way - it's as true for you as mine is for me - but I honestly wonder what role the so-called "halo effect" plays when we listen to old and legendary records. Is it possible that we rate them higher because so many people have rated them high for such a long time?
That's why I thought my experience with "Harvest" and it's juxtaposition with Mark's latest songs was so interesting. Both were equally new to me. Both made me want to hear them again. But I couldn't say that on first listen, "Out on the Weekend" touched me more than "Watch Me Gone". My reaction to both songs was very similar. I thought they were both great.
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"is front-porch lazy day music, but with lyrics that underscore the album’s poignant theme of stability in the face of change"
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"In fact, the same might be said of Knopfler’s songs throughout his career: they’re what you were listening to when you were a youngster, and that feeling is always the same every time you hear it. From his Dire Straits days through several decades of solo albums, Mark Knopfler’s voice may sound like a faded pair of ancient jeans. It’s never grown old – it just is old, in a timeless, wise, and wonderous sense. It’s a voice many of us listened to for decades. And whether we’re heading out or coming back, the power of Knopfler’s storytelling hasn’t gone away"
Nice.
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Front porch lazy day music ... ouch ::)
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Album Review six weeks before release date? Idiotic behaviour..
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Album Review six weeks before release date? Idiotic behaviour..
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I was surprised too. A little too fast.
A modest and strange review. Only 5 songs are listed.
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I have not read every post but, was it discussed about the pre-order of the album that includes a chance to win a tour of British Grove studios with Guy? You have to order any format from the Mark Knopfler online store before 6th March 12:00 GMT You and a guest will be shown around on 20th April.
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I have not read every post but, was it discussed about the pre-order of the album that includes a chance to win a tour of British Grove studios with Guy? You have to order any format from the Mark Knopfler online store before 6th March 12:00 GMT You and a guest will be shown around on 20th April.
And most important, you have to be a UK resident.
After reading that, lost all interest in this.
As if London wasn't reachable from most European countries with cheap or affordable flights...
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About "unhurried" (some will say: boring) music:
I was listening to Neil Young's "Harvest" for the very first time yesterday. Call me a total ignorant (and you'll be right), but somehow I never got to Neil Young up to this date. I saw the album mentioned somewhere, and thought I'd give it a listen. I was unaware of the fact that this is his signature album, and was a billboard no. 1 back then. I just thought: Okay, here's an album that some people seem to like, let's see how it is.
Now, the reason I'm mentioning this: The album is good, I liked it a lot. But in no way is it something that immediately says: hit record! It's totally unassuming, simple melodies, (mostly) sparse arrangements, temperate guitars and singing. Nothing groundbreaking even for 1972, nothing bold or loud or risky or experimental. But still very good! There's not one song on it that I didn't like, and several of them I found touching. In short: "Harvest" is in no way better or more surprising on a first listen than what I've heard of Mark's upcoming album so far. And still it seems to have achieved legendary status over time!
Harvest is a fantastic record and an undeniable classic. But, the comparison with Mark seems farfetched. First, there are a couple of heavy songs musically speaking, in Alabama and Words. Second, this is almost a collection of Young's best songs, at least some of them. Old Man, Needle, Out on the Weekend... Lyrics, singing, guitar playing, and overall mood are simply striking in each one. And there is tension. It sounds as if life depends on it.
Mark has always produced slow songs, but they used to be in the minority, unlike now. More problematic for me, though, is that they are often devoid of tension these days, and sound similar to the point of being interchangeable, frequently lacking proper hooks.
The whole focus on "storytelling" has always had the effect of maintaining a certain distance, with songs about boxers and ships and what not. More personal lyrics, like on the latest single, sounds promising in theory, but the music leaves me flat.
I think I see where you're coming from, but my experience is a very different one. When you say that Mark's recent music leaves you flat, I'll have to say that for me the opposite is true. I'm deeply touched by by certain songs on each of his albums, and that's as true for his solo albums just as it is for Dire Straits records. Actually, the songs that touch me most of all might be from his solo career. Do they have as much tension as, say, "In the Gallery" or some of Neil Young's songs? They certainly don't. But tension isn't everything. Take a song like Mark's "Silver Eagle" - zero tension, but an awful lot of melancholy (or whatever that feeling might be). I leaves me stunned every time I hear it. More so than anything on "Harvest", to be honest. And I could name dozens of other Knopfler songs that do the same or something similar for me.
I wouldn't want to doubt your judgement in any way - it's as true for you as mine is for me - but I honestly wonder what role the so-called "halo effect" plays when we listen to old and legendary records. Is it possible that we rate them higher because so many people have rated them high for such a long time?
That's why I thought my experience with "Harvest" and it's juxtaposition with Mark's latest songs was so interesting. Both were equally new to me. Both made me want to hear them again. But I couldn't say that on first listen, "Out on the Weekend" touched me more than "Watch Me Gone". My reaction to both songs was very similar. I thought they were both great.
Well, we all have different views, but Harvest is a young Neil on top form, and so would more suitably be compared to young Mark. My present views of Mark and Neil are roughly the same.
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Reviews coming in now. One posted in another thread. Today I saw one in Uncut. 8 out if 10, short, mentioned slow and measured, quiet gentle etc, similar overall to the other review. Said Watch Me Gone was the highlight.
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Reviews coming in now. One posted in another thread. Today I saw one in Uncut. 8 out if 10, short, mentioned slow and measured, quiet gentle etc, similar overall to the other review. Said Watch Me Gone was the highlight.
Hi Nick14!
Can you post the review? Thank you.
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Reviews coming in now. One posted in another thread. Today I saw one in Uncut. 8 out if 10, short, mentioned slow and measured, quiet gentle etc, similar overall to the other review. Said Watch Me Gone was the highlight.
Do you have a link?
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I don't I'm afraid. I read a hard copy in a shop! It was short. Very much along the lines of the review we do have a link to. Reflective, meditative etc.
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I don't I'm afraid. I read a hard copy in a shop! It was short. Very much along the lines of the review we do have a link to. Reflective, meditative etc.
Ok. Thank you:)
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Well, -Watch Me Gone the best track on it... not exactly what I was hoping for... :think
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Reviews coming in now. One posted in another thread. Today I saw one in Uncut. 8 out if 10, short, mentioned slow and measured, quiet gentle etc, similar overall to the other review. Said Watch Me Gone was the highlight.
Do you have a link?
MARK KNOPFLER
One Deep River
BRITISH GROVE
8/10
Heartfelt songs from the
Northumberland veteran
During “Watch Me
Gone”, a highlight
from his atmospheric
new album, Mark
Knopfler indulges in
a couple of rock’n’roll
fantasies: “Maybe I’ll hit the road with
Bob/Or maybe I’ll hitch a ride with Van”,
he sings in his signature pre-coffee
grumble, as warm and weathered as
ever. While the veteran songwriter and
guitarist has indeed shared stages with
both legends, his tentative, bittersweet
tone signals the inspiration for this
diverse batch of songs, dreamed up
during Covid lockdown. Characterised
by a laid-back, full-band sound, this
heartfelt music exudes the warm thrill
of catching up and looking back among
old friends. SAM SODOMSKY
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Reviews coming in now. One posted in another thread. Today I saw one in Uncut. 8 out if 10, short, mentioned slow and measured, quiet gentle etc, similar overall to the other review. Said Watch Me Gone was the highlight.
Do you have a link?
MARK KNOPFLER
One Deep River
BRITISH GROVE
8/10
Heartfelt songs from the
Northumberland veteran
During “Watch Me
Gone”, a highlight
from his atmospheric
new album, Mark
Knopfler indulges in
a couple of rock’n’roll
fantasies: “Maybe I’ll hit the road with
Bob/Or maybe I’ll hitch a ride with Van”,
he sings in his signature pre-coffee
grumble, as warm and weathered as
ever. While the veteran songwriter and
guitarist has indeed shared stages with
both legends, his tentative, bittersweet
tone signals the inspiration for this
diverse batch of songs, dreamed up
during Covid lockdown. Characterised
by a laid-back, full-band sound, this
heartfelt music exudes the warm thrill
of catching up and looking back among
old friends. SAM SODOMSKY
Thank you very much :) I don't know why, but I really like reading reviews without knowing the album,
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I don't pay much attention to those reviewers, if I did, I won't be listening to most of what I do!!
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Music reviews are pointless these days.
It used to be helpful to get an opinion on an album before you spent a sizeable amount of cash on it.
Now you can stream instantly to see if you like it or not.
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Reviews coming in now. One posted in another thread. Today I saw one in Uncut. 8 out if 10, short, mentioned slow and measured, quiet gentle etc, similar overall to the other review. Said Watch Me Gone was the highlight.
Do you have a link?
MARK KNOPFLER
One Deep River
BRITISH GROVE
8/10
Heartfelt songs from the
Northumberland veteran
During “Watch Me
Gone”, a highlight
from his atmospheric
new album, Mark
Knopfler indulges in
a couple of rock’n’roll
fantasies: “Maybe I’ll hit the road with
Bob/Or maybe I’ll hitch a ride with Van”,
he sings in his signature pre-coffee
grumble, as warm and weathered as
ever. While the veteran songwriter and
guitarist has indeed shared stages with
both legends, his tentative, bittersweet
tone signals the inspiration for this
diverse batch of songs, dreamed up
during Covid lockdown. Characterised
by a laid-back, full-band sound, this
heartfelt music exudes the warm thrill
of catching up and looking back among
old friends. SAM SODOMSKY
I could have written this review after having listened to Watch Me Gone. I bet this guy hasn't heard the complete album yet.
LE
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I will buy anything that Mark releases regardless of what a review says.
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Reviews coming in now. One posted in another thread. Today I saw one in Uncut. 8 out if 10, short, mentioned slow and measured, quiet gentle etc, similar overall to the other review. Said Watch Me Gone was the highlight.
Do you have a link?
MARK KNOPFLER
One Deep River
BRITISH GROVE
8/10
Heartfelt songs from the
Northumberland veteran
During “Watch Me
Gone”, a highlight
from his atmospheric
new album, Mark
Knopfler indulges in
a couple of rock’n’roll
fantasies: “Maybe I’ll hit the road with
Bob/Or maybe I’ll hitch a ride with Van”,
he sings in his signature pre-coffee
grumble, as warm and weathered as
ever. While the veteran songwriter and
guitarist has indeed shared stages with
both legends, his tentative, bittersweet
tone signals the inspiration for this
diverse batch of songs, dreamed up
during Covid lockdown. Characterised
by a laid-back, full-band sound, this
heartfelt music exudes the warm thrill
of catching up and looking back among
old friends. SAM SODOMSKY
I could have written this review after having listened to Watch Me Gone. I bet this guy hasn't heard the complete album yet.
LE
He probably has, the reviewers get sent advance links to listen.
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Well, -Watch Me Gone the best track on it... not exactly what I was hoping for... :think
LE
HA!
Same as me
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In the past JF and Railking got early access for reviewing. How is that this year?
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In the past JF and Railking got early access for reviewing. How is that this year?
I don't have a link yet
otherwise, I would have talk about it here ;D
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Music reviews are pointless these days.
aaaarghhhh.... :-X ::) ;D
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In the past JF and Railking got early access for reviewing. How is that this year?
I don't have a link yet
otherwise, I would have talk about it here ;D
But will you get a link this time again?
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I will buy anything that Mark releases regardless of what a review says.
Same here! ;)
Every MK release means something special to me, and his music has never disappointed me.
Of course, there are always a few songs that take time to grow on you. But that's the interesting thing about his music, even after years there's something to discover that you haven't heard before.
Mark's music is timeless!
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In the past JF and Railking got early access for reviewing. How is that this year?
I don't have a link yet
otherwise, I would have talk about it here ;D
But will you get a link this time again?
I asked to my contact at Universal some weeks ago, but no answer yet
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I will buy anything that Mark releases regardless of what a review says.
Same here! ;)
Every MK release means something special to me, and his music has never disappointed me.
Of course, there are always a few songs that take time to grow on you. But that's the interesting thing about his music, even after years there's something to discover that you haven't heard before.
Mark's music is timeless!
:thumbsup
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I will buy anything that Mark releases regardless of what a review says.
Same here! ;)
Every MK release means something special to me, and his music has never disappointed me.
Of course, there are always a few songs that take time to grow on you. But that's the interesting thing about his music, even after years there's something to discover that you haven't heard before.
Mark's music is timeless!
:thumbsup
I feel the same. At first I was a bit underwhelmed by KTGC, but now it is in my top three albums. Some of Mark's songs need listening to a lot, but they eventually become favourites. I always buy MK's albums whatever the music critics say. :)
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Well, -Watch Me Gone the best track on it... not exactly what I was hoping for... :think
LE
HA!
Same as me
The review calls it "a" highlight, not "the" highlight.
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In the past JF and Railking got early access for reviewing. How is that this year?
I asked Universal for a link last time, and got it, because I used to work as a journalist - which I wasn't anymore, really, even back then. They expected me to write about the album, and they would expect the same now. I would feel kind of dishonest asking again, knowing that I won't publish a review. And I don't mind waiting, really (BUT IF SOMEONE HAS A LINK, SEND IT AROUND IMMEDEATELY! :lol)
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I will buy anything that Mark releases regardless of what a review says.
Same here! ;)
Every MK release means something special to me, and his music has never disappointed me.
Of course, there are always a few songs that take time to grow on you. But that's the interesting thing about his music, even after years there's something to discover that you haven't heard before.
Mark's music is timeless!
Amen to that. Very, very rarely, there's a song that I think he could have left off the album (I wouldn't miss "Miss You Blues", despite its name). More often, I think "Great song, but should have been produced differently". But even those songs are not ones that I would skip. The consistency with which he delivers great songs is amazing - and almost unmatched in my opinion.
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I felt the same with all his amazing albums until Down The Road Wherever, which I severely dislike not because it is slow (Tracker is slower but much better) or because it tries to cover new ground with those brass arrangements, but simply because I find it's an astonishingly uninspired album, full of musical selfplagiarism, poor ideas and extremely uninteresting lyrics. But MK's whole career until that record is simply awesome and uncomparable.
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@beryl - totally agree. DTRW is 4/10, absolute skipper of an album which I don't see myself ever listening to again.
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"but simply because I find it's an astonishingly uninspired album, full of musical selfplagiarism, poor ideas and extremely uninteresting lyrics"
I protest and disagree :)
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"but simply because I find it's an astonishingly uninspired album, full of musical selfplagiarism, poor ideas and extremely uninteresting lyrics"
I protest and disagree :)
What a surprise!
Is there a single song or album by MK that you don't like?
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"but simply because I find it's an astonishingly uninspired album, full of musical selfplagiarism, poor ideas and extremely uninteresting lyrics"
I protest and disagree :)
What a surprise!
Is there a single song or album by MK that you don't like?
I'm glad I didn't surprise you. Of course. For example, from the album Down The Road Wherever, I don't understand the song Rear View Mirror. Should be a bonus song.
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"but simply because I find it's an astonishingly uninspired album, full of musical selfplagiarism, poor ideas and extremely uninteresting lyrics"
I protest and disagree :)
What a surprise!
Is there a single song or album by MK that you don't like?
I'm glad I didn't surprise you. Of course. For example, from the album Down The Road Wherever, I don't understand the song Rear View Mirror. Should be a bonus song.
It is a bonus song, it's in the deluxe cd version, not in the standard.
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"but simply because I find it's an astonishingly uninspired album, full of musical selfplagiarism, poor ideas and extremely uninteresting lyrics"
I protest and disagree :)
What a surprise!
Is there a single song or album by MK that you don't like?
I'm glad I didn't surprise you. Of course. For example, from the album Down The Road Wherever, I don't understand the song Rear View Mirror. Should be a bonus song.
It is a bonus song, it's in the deluxe cd version, not in the standard.
In the first version of the album (16 songs) Rear View Mirror is on the album (15)
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As a bonustrack, obviously
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Am I the only one who has the digipack version? :)
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Standard version had 14 songs, deluxe had 16 (2 bonustracks)
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Yes, deluxe, but the version: one disc and Rear View Mirror on it is not a bonus song.
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https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=6298.0
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Robson is true as the digipack version just lists 16 tracks on one CD without pointing out anywhere that two of them are bonus tracks.
LE
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Robson is true as the digipack version just lists 16 tracks on one CD without pointing out anywhere that two of them are bonus tracks.
LE
Exactly! :thumbsup
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And a cheap paper sleeve CD Edition is not ecactly what I would call a special or limited or whatever edition. ;D
LE
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The order and number of songs (16) in the digipack of the Down The Road Wherever album is better for me than in The studio albums 2009-2018 box. Drover's Road bonus song? I don't forgive. I know, the requirements of a vinyl record.
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Its obviously a bonustrack because its included on the b sides disc of the studio album compilation. Dont be so naive
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The Digipack versión is a Deluxe one with two more tracks than the standard version, so that track and Every heart in the room are bonuses.
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Its obviously a bonustrack because its included on the b sides disc of the studio album compilation. Dont be so naive
It just shows how random those "versions" are compiled and what a mess it is. If I wouldn't be a fan and would buy this cheap digipack thing, I would never think of anything "deluxe". And the icing ofcthe cake is that for vinyl editions they mix it all up again. So nobody really knows for sure (apart from the elite get-a-lifers) what song is a bonus and why. It is not exactly naive to point that out I think.
LE
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https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=6298.0
Here is the official information released at the time.
The standard edition is 14 songs.
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https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=6298.0
Here is the official information released at the time.
The standard edition is 14 songs.
Yes of course. And I guess it would have been too easy to make the last two tracks the bonus as it usually is done with other artists or at least if the two tracks had some sort of marking or anything. But no. So from 16 tracks, 14 and 15 are bonus. Of course. :smack
LE
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The Digipack versión is a Deluxe one with two more tracks than the standard version, so that track and Every heart in the room are bonuses.
But they are not described as bonus songs
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It also shows that Down The Dump Whatever has no special running order needed as the songs are all totally random style wise and have no special idea or inspiration in terms of an "album" behind it. Better don't get me started about this release again, I shut up now..
LE
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Yeah, back to the topic ;)
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With One Deep River, they found a better solution. Here it seems, bonus songs get an own CD (and/or LP) and the core album of 12 songs stays untouched. This gives me hope that the 12 songs might have a real "album/theme" feeling which is a good thing!
LE
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With One Deep River, they found a better solution. Here it seems, bonus songs get an own CD (and/or LP) and the core album of 12 songs stays untouched. This gives me hope that the 12 songs might have a real "album/theme" feeling which is a good thing!
LE
Album/theme will also have the EP "The Boy" :)
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The Digipack versión is a Deluxe one with two more tracks than the standard version, so that track and Every heart in the room are bonuses.
But they are not described as bonus songs
Right now in the official site there is no reference to previous records, but I remember very well that were three editions, a standard one with 14 songs, a deluxe with two more tracks (Every heart in the room and Rear view mirror) and the box with the extra vinyl with more bonus tracks.
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I think you don't get the problem.
LE
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I think you don't get the problem.
LE
No, I see it very clear.
The fact that the deluxe version, the digipack, doesnt says that songs are bonus, doesn't turn it into the standard edition of the record, as the standard exists as a 14 songs cd and was announced like that when it was released, and the digipack with 16 songs was announced like deluxe version at the time.
The official site doesn't show the information of that record editions, but it is detailed in its wikipedia entry:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Down_the_Road_Wherever
What's the problem?
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It's two different things what's "announced" and what is visible for the buyer. Drovers Road perfectly sums up the whole mess regarding it's character of bonus song or standard song. Depends on what?
Compare it with the way it is done with One Deep River and then look at all running orders of all "versions" of DTRW. Nobody should have to check the press release first to understand the status of a song on a release.
LE
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I know, i'm on Jbaents side, but it's way offtopic here, and also pointless, so let it go and back to the real topic again ;)
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It's two different things what's "announced" and what is visible for the buyer. Drovers Road perfectly sums up the whole mess regarding it's character of bonus song or standard song. Depends on what?
Compare it with the way it is done with One Deep River and then look at all running orders of all "versions" of DTRW. Nobody should have to check the press release first to understand the status of a song on a release.
LE
Excuse Dutchessy, my last post on this off topic.
Right now I did a search on Amazon Spain and it displays various formats, one that only says the title, which has 14 tracks, another that says deluxe, that has 16 tracks, and the LP version, that has 13, only the standard appears on sale by Amazon, the rest by other sellers.
I agree that is a mess and a confussion for buyers, specially the thing about "Drovers road" that was out of the LP version as far as I recall, was even outside of the standard cd version in North America, but that happens also with STP, who had "One more matinee" on all versions except the North American, that one had "Do America" instead, which was included in the UK version but not in the rest of European countries, and the European and UK editions both had One more matinee! So "Do America" was a bonus in the UK respect to the European, "One more matinee" was a bonus respect to the American... maybe it was a little mess as when you went to your record shop, even online, you only were offered the release assigned to your country...
I prefer that the deluxe version has two cds, as it's easiest to identify, but probably they thought that do a two cds version just to add two songs was too expensive to produce in comparation with adding it to the original cd and label it in the online shops as deluxe, maybe it even had a sticker on the plastic envelope saying that it was deluxe, I don't remember...
However, I agree it was confusing, but in the end even confusing, the fact is that both "Rear view mirror" and "Every heart in the room" were bonus tracks ;)
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I know, i'm on Jbaents side, but it's way offtopic here, and also pointless, so let it go and back to the real topic again ;)
And going on topic again...
With all the fuss of MK going to St James's Park, the video from his visit to the hospital, the inminent release of the Going Home with 66 musicians on it, I totally forgot about the expectation of "One Deep River"... Did it happened to any of you too?
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So, in your head, does STP include Do America and One More Matinee?
It does to me, that's how I always heard it.
But I bet people from other countries feel differently.
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I know, i'm on Jbaents side, but it's way offtopic here, and also pointless, so let it go and back to the real topic again ;)
And going on topic again...
With all the fuss of MK going to St James's Park, the video from his visit to the hospital, the inminent release of the Going Home with 66 musicians on it, I totally forgot about the expectation of "One Deep River"... Did it happened to any of you too?
No,5 weeks and counting :)
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I know, i'm on Jbaents side, but it's way offtopic here, and also pointless, so let it go and back to the real topic again ;)
And going on topic again...
With all the fuss of MK going to St James's Park, the video from his visit to the hospital, the inminent release of the Going Home with 66 musicians on it, I totally forgot about the expectation of "One Deep River"... Did it happened to any of you too?
Yes, which is good... Time flies even faster these days.
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So, in your head, does STP include Do America and One More Matinee?
It does to me, that's how I always heard it.
But I bet people from other countries feel differently.
One More Matinee is definitely the album closer for me since 2000, one of the most perfect ones he has ever done. Funnily I just learned only a few weeks ago that it was not on the US release which is a bold thing to do with such a good song. Do America always was a strange bonus thing to me which doesn't belong onto the record.
But those were the times where still b-sides were produced although both cd-singles had so many good songs and could have been called EP's on its own.
The whole affair about questionable dealing with extra- or bonus tracks really started when Get Lucky came out and they made the first Box Set.
LE
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Well for me the confusion started with STP.
I know what all the DS albums are (although some people will tell you that Badges is part of the Twisting EP!)
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For me it's going weird to have two different MK records in the same month, no matter one of them is just an EP with four songs.
Very much looking forward to all these new songs.
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Yes indeed. The notes say that the songs on the EP are (lyrically) based im the 50's and 60's. To me, that would be the KTGC sound, especially We Can Get Wild. I think the song titles sound very interesting. I would bet there is at least one acoustic guitar song with only Mark on it like River Of Grog or Heart Of Oak.. , or some steamy blues like Song For Sonny Liston..
LE
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I'm just hoping I can get a copy of the EP. Seems to be low numbers.
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Do I remember correctly that Nigel Hitchcock and Tom Walsh joined in the second part of the session? If so, there will be no shortage of brass atmosphere. ;)
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Do I remember correctly that Nigel Hitchcock and Tom Walsh joined in the second part of the session? If so, there will be no shortage of brass atmosphere. ;)
No.
LE
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Do I remember correctly that Nigel Hitchcock and Tom Walsh joined in the second part of the session? If so, there will be no shortage of brass atmosphere. ;)
I hope not
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They were just there for the pints (only the evening) if i understood correctly.
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Yes.
GF:
No horns on the new album
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(although some people will tell you that Badges is part of the Twisting EP!)
It was on the copy I bought back in the day!
Also, the STP thing is really a separate issue. In their infinite stupidity, Warner Bros. didn't like One More Matinee, thought it was "too English", and asked to replace it with Do America for the US release. Bad trade IMO, but that's just me. It had nothing to do with bonus tracks. Back then it seems all the "bonus tracks" were "b-sides" or attached to singles.
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It had nothing to do with bonus tracks. Back then it seems all the "bonus tracks" were "b-sides" or attached to singles.
I mean, it is is to do with bonus tracks, or at least "extra music" for the UK.
(https://live.staticflickr.com/65535/53575277778_2f34635d7c_m.jpg) (https://flic.kr/p/2pCgixQ)IMG_20240308_155631 (https://flic.kr/p/2pCgixQ) by Dusty Valentino (https://www.flickr.com/photos/190235235@N02/), on Flickr
And here's the Australian version with no Do America.
(https://i.discogs.com/FcrYUN7kIsbr1Mh8sapam9eSv5QEf7SBylUrGg7N55Q/rs:fit/g:sm/q:90/h:521/w:600/czM6Ly9kaXNjb2dz/LWRhdGFiYXNlLWlt/YWdlcy9SLTE5Njcy/MjQtMTI1NTU5NTEz/Mi5qcGVn.jpeg)
The point is, there are different versions of that album floating around, which is crazy.
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(although some people will tell you that Badges is part of the Twisting EP!)
It was on the copy I bought back in the day!
Also, the STP thing is really a separate issue. In their infinite stupidity, Warner Bros. didn't like One More Matinee, thought it was "too English", and asked to replace it with Do America for the US release. Bad trade IMO, but that's just me. It had nothing to do with bonus tracks. Back then it seems all the "bonus tracks" were "b-sides" or attached to singles.
And today we would call the single What It Is a real EP:)
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So, in your head, does STP include Do America and One More Matinee?
It does to me, that's how I always heard it.
But I bet people from other countries feel differently.
STP must be considered an album in a variety of versions, as they were released simultaneously as "STP".
What they are doing now seems more logical. Burying songs as b-sides was also a frustrating practice, as they would be unheard by the majority of the audience, especially a few years later.
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To me the ‘real’ STP is the version with One More Matinee and without Do America. From that time I remember this was indeed the initially intended worldwide release. However, US legislation required STP to be labeled with a ‘parental advisory adult content’ sticker because the lyrics of One More Matinee contained the word ‘bitch’. To be categorized this way would be inappropriate for an MK album, so therefore it was decided to replace this track with another song that was recorded but not initially intended to be included on the album.
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To me the ‘real’ STP is the version with One More Matinee and without Do America. From that time I remember this was indeed the initially intended worldwide release. However, US legislation required STP to be labeled with a ‘parental advisory adult content’ sticker because the lyrics of One More Matinee contained the word ‘bitch’. To be categorized this way would be inappropriate for an MK album, so therefore it was decided to replace this track with another song that was recorded but not initially intended to be included on the album.
Interesting! And, conveniently, there was high-paced guitar song named after America lying about :think
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Still offtopic ::)
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on topic, whos placed a virtual padlock on the bridge for exclusive content on MK.COM
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on topic, whos placed a virtual padlock on the bridge for exclusive content on MK.COM
They can use energy for this BS but releasing an album so that everyone can experience all of the songs seems impossible. Also, One Song At A Time will be the last great song MK ever released.
There, I said it. ;D
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on topic, whos placed a virtual padlock on the bridge for exclusive content on MK.COM
I did, to see Guy's studio diary pictures ha ha
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on topic, whos placed a virtual padlock on the bridge for exclusive content on MK.COM
They can use energy for this BS but releasing an album so that everyone can experience all of the songs seems impossible. Also, One Song At A Time will be the last great song MK ever released.
There, I said it. ;D
There are 23 more songs coming... how can you be so sure?
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One More Matinee is such a beautiful tune. And Do America is much better than every DTRW song. The solution for STP was to put in both of those songs (and also Camerado and Let's See You, great tunes in their own right) and throw to the toilet Who's Your Baby Now (a song that goes nowhere and gets old extremely fast) and El Macho, which I consider completely pointless and cheesy. MY TWO CENTS
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To me the ‘real’ STP is the version with One More Matinee and without Do America. From that time I remember this was indeed the initially intended worldwide release. However, US legislation required STP to be labeled with a ‘parental advisory adult content’ sticker because the lyrics of One More Matinee contained the word ‘bitch’. To be categorized this way would be inappropriate for an MK album, so therefore it was decided to replace this track with another song that was recorded but not initially intended to be included on the album.
To me the album has both songs, that’s the album I bought on release day and have listened to ever since!
Again, the fact that we have different albums for this depending on our country is ridiculous!
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I even had all STP versions at home, first the European. When I went to the US, I bought the US version and during a visit to London, got myself the UK copy so I sold the US version again and now I got another copy with the box set. :lol You got to be weird as MK music addict. ;D
The new album will be the 2 CD pack for me, no box.
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https://twitter.com/MarkKnopfler/status/1766494158808903865?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
:)
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https://twitter.com/MarkKnopfler/status/1766494158808903865?ref_src=twsrc%5Egoogle%7Ctwcamp%5Eserp%7Ctwgr%5Etweet
:)
Now I know where I'll drink when in Newcastle! :D
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Cheeky little purchase this evening - ODR Promo poster
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Month :)
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I'm wondering if we will hear a reference of some sort to Big River, the collaboration between Jimmy Nail and Mark Knopfler. It's about the river Tyne after all, the river that's also the main theme of One Deep River.
I really like Big River. Magnificent song!
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I'm wondering if we will hear a reference of some sort to Big River, the collaboration between Jimmy Nail and Mark Knopfler. It's about the river Tyne after all, the river that's also the main theme of One Deep River.
I really like Big River. Magnificent song!
Big River is indeed a magnificent song, and of course MK's playing adds a lot to the track.
Maybe not the thing to say on an MK forum but for me Big River is a far superior song about the subject matter than My Claim To Fame.
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Big River is an amazing song, I think I remember somewhere that Mark helped Jimmy Nail with the lyrics on it too :think
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I'm quit fed up of all this exclusive UK fans things if you preorder the record, just for UK fans...
There are a lot of cheap flights from most European big cities, what made this people think that only UK fans can go to London for a private tour inside British Grove or attend a preview of the new record in atmos?
Someone from Shetland Islands can go without problems to London but someone from Paris can't?
What the logic behind this stupid discrimination?
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Cheeky little purchase this evening - ODR Promo poster
A good buy. Looks amazing! :thumbsup
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I'm quit fed up of all this exclusive UK fans things if you preorder the record, just for UK fans...
There are a lot of cheap flights from most European big cities, what made this people think that only UK fans can go to London for a private tour inside British Grove or attend a preview of the new record in atmos?
Someone from Shetland Islands can go without problems to London but someone from Paris can't?
What the logic behind this stupid discrimination?
It's probably actually legal stuff relating to rules around giveaways. I see it a lot in US competitions as well.
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Another One Deep River Promo Poster up for grabs
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/196289529238?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=mYkKHMMBQoe&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=FDnWw-_hRta&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
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Another One Deep River Promo Poster up for grabs
https://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/196289529238?mkcid=16&mkevt=1&mkrid=711-127632-2357-0&ssspo=mYkKHMMBQoe&sssrc=4429486&ssuid=FDnWw-_hRta&var=&widget_ver=artemis&media=COPY
Hi-Res: https://sacksco.com/photo/hi/mark_knopfler2.jpg
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I'm quit fed up of all this exclusive UK fans things if you preorder the record, just for UK fans...
There are a lot of cheap flights from most European big cities, what made this people think that only UK fans can go to London for a private tour inside British Grove or attend a preview of the new record in atmos?
Someone from Shetland Islands can go without problems to London but someone from Paris can't?
What the logic behind this stupid discrimination?
BREXIT is BREXIT so **** all in the EU.
I'm surprised this hasn't been used to promote the album as more old white men in the UK would buy the album :D
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I'm quit fed up of all this exclusive UK fans things if you preorder the record, just for UK fans...
There are a lot of cheap flights from most European big cities, what made this people think that only UK fans can go to London for a private tour inside British Grove or attend a preview of the new record in atmos?
Someone from Shetland Islands can go without problems to London but someone from Paris can't?
What the logic behind this stupid discrimination?
There's always been stuff exclusive to various countries. Remember the Hot Dog carry on?
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I'm quit fed up of all this exclusive UK fans things if you preorder the record, just for UK fans...
There are a lot of cheap flights from most European big cities, what made this people think that only UK fans can go to London for a private tour inside British Grove or attend a preview of the new record in atmos?
Someone from Shetland Islands can go without problems to London but someone from Paris can't?
What the logic behind this stupid discrimination?
BREXIT is BREXIT so **** all in the EU.
I'm surprised this hasn't been used to promote the album as more old white men in the UK would buy the album :D
Brexit Man wouldn’t approve of MK. He wrote a song that was sympathetic to cross dressers you know.
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I was in a cafe near the BBC in Portland Place and I heard this guy hail a waitress and say in a very hangdog voice: 'Have you got my roll? My bacon roll.' To me that is poetry. Much more appealing than Wordsworth and his host of golden daffodils, but then that probably means there's something wrong with me.
MK
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Give me Hot Dog any day of the week! ;D ;D
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Give me Hot Dog any day of the week! ;D ;D
Hot dog sounds like a very early and rough demo, that sounds ok but it was never worth to be released, short, not developed at all, simple...
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Give me Hot Dog any day of the week! ;D ;D
But only available in Germany. Let's blame Deutsch-exit for the Hot Dog fiasco. ::)
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the guitar sound he had from obviously a lespaul in 'Hot Dog' was nasty in a good way, wish he would have used that elsewhere
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I wonder if there's a chance for a third song this week. :think
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I wonder if there's a chance for a third song this week. :think
No I guess first the Going Home single and my guess maybe one week for the album release a single drop
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I wonder if there's a chance for a third song this week. :think
No I guess first the Going Home single and my guess maybe one week for the album release a single drop
Yes, I thought about that too. Now the most important single is Going Home.
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They announced "Real Live Roadrunning" for this Wednesday. But I guess next week would be possible, it's only two weeks then.
LE
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Real Live Roadrunning?
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Yes, March 20.
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It's true. ;)
LE
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Yes, March 20.
........I'm too curious, how did you know :clap :clap :clap :clap
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Yes, March 20.
........I'm too curious, how did you know :clap :clap :clap :clap
X :)
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Oh goodie - we can play spot the shoe again!
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Review in the new edition of Mojo. 4 stars. I'll type out later if no-one beats me to it. Positive, more stuff about it being slower, studied, nuanced. Mention of a tex mex flavour to one song, and ahead of the game mentioned as guitar highlight.
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Oh goodie - we can play spot the shoe again!
I hate these shoes he wore in 2005/2006. He improved with some nice dark browns for the 2008 tour and peaked in 2010 with those beautiful Oxford-like brown shoes. He did wear some nice suede shoes in 2015 but nothing like 2010.
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... and ahead of the game mentioned as guitar highlight.
Well I guess, that is something a lot of people feared aleady, but also, very deep inside they knew it already when the track was released as a first single.
LE
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Despite "Full Concert" I don't believe it will be the full concert.
Missing Michaelangelo argh :thumbsdown
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Thank you!
And "four stars" meant full four stars, :lol which I wasn't aware of. Not that I care too much about it, but still...
LE
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Maybe it's just me, but I pay no attention to reviews!!
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One final chance to get the blu ray:
https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/more-mark-knopfler-one-deep-river-blu-rays-now-available/
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One final chance to get the blu ray:
https://superdeluxeedition.com/news/more-mark-knopfler-one-deep-river-blu-rays-now-available/
Thank you.
Fuck it, just ordered. I guess given the limited availability I'll be able to sell it if I end up thinking the multichannel stuff is pointless. I don't have Atmos but we'll see how it sounds in 5.1.
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Ordered it also for the high res stereo audio, don't have Atmos either.
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Somebody from SDE responded to a question about the album: I liked it. Very high quality audio and it sounded great – the bonus tracks are good fun, bit of a ‘B-side’ vibe going on, and I mean that in a good way.
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"Like much of the record, 'This One’s Not Going to End Well' is front-porch lazy day music, but with lyrics that underscore the album’s poignant theme of stability in the face of change:"
https://www.gratefulweb.com/articles/mark-knopflers-one-deep-river-review
I think we're in for a reflective, rainy-Sunday-afternoon-type-of album.
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I will post reviews I see. Rely no need for folks to post to say they pay no attention to reviews......
Yes, 4 stars, out of a max of 5. The three reviews I have seen have much in common. All three praise the album highly, give high marks, make similar comments on the style, lyrically and musically.
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I will post reviews I see. Rely no need for folks to post to say they pay no attention to reviews......
Yes, 4 stars, out of a max of 5. The three reviews I have seen have much in common. All three praise the album highly, give high marks, make similar comments on the style, lyrically and musically.
Sounds promising. Keep on posting those reviews. I will make a dedicated review thread for it and move the reviews
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Great, thanks.
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I have never heard of a funky train.
Neither have I but there is one, apparently. https://www.discogs.com/release/4761898-The-Poets-Of-Rhythm-Funky-Train ;)
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Haha good find!
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MK on Rockenteurs podcast from Sunday
https://twitter.com/rockonteurs/status/1770409945818640681
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MK on Rockenteurs podcast from Sunday
https://twitter.com/rockonteurs/status/1770409945818640681
Great news, both Gary and Guy are big fans, in many of their previous podcasts took any tiny chance to mention MK or DS!
And they also chatted with John Illsley when he published his book.
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MK on Rockenteurs podcast from Sunday
https://twitter.com/rockonteurs/status/1770409945818640681
Great news, both Gary and Guy are big fans, in many of their previous podcasts took any tiny chance to mention MK or DS!
And they also chatted with John Illsley when he published his book.
I’ve always admired Guy, what a musician!
It will be interesting to see what subjects will be covered, apart from the TCT project and the new album. Can’t wait!
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They tend to go through the obvious stuff so I expect an hour of Uncle Kingsley, "it had to be red", blowing up the radio etc then a few minutes at the end promoting TCT and the new album.
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They tend to go through the obvious stuff so I expect an hour of Uncle Kingsley, "it had to be red", blowing up the radio etc then a few minutes at the end promoting TCT and the new album.
It's not always the interviewer's fault, somehow Mark can steer ANY conversation into Uncle Kingsley, "it had to be red" and blowing up the radio. He's a master at that!
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They tend to go through the obvious stuff so I expect an hour of Uncle Kingsley, "it had to be red", blowing up the radio etc then a few minutes at the end promoting TCT and the new album.
It's not always the interviewer's fault, somehow Mark can steer ANY conversation into Uncle Kingsley, "it had to be red" and blowing up the radio. He's a master at that!
And about fame and success 😉 …
he always sticks to the script!
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Good interviewers who have done their research know how to pre-empt those situations. Mark Lawson did a fantastic job when he interviewed Mark a few years ago. (And that Katie lady, who did the podcast with Guy, is also great at it.)
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As i the first and only time they got MK in their podcast, it's obvious it's going to be around most of the common places we all know, that's what they usually do, it's usually a kind of biographical thing in a very relaxed and fun way.
Just for all of you that never heard that podcast, here you have the one when they interviewed John Illsley:
https://open.spotify.com/episode/2wLVctVbdAffhLA11z7wFK?si=orW109fNQNinj_46ed3mQg
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Yes, their podcast is very much not for "get a lifers" on any artist - it's for causal fans to find out a bit more about legendary artists that they might know by name.
I'm not a huge Tom Petty fan but I had heard basically all the stories in the Mike Campbell episode before.
So I'm sure it will be fun and we might get some interesting nuggets but don't expect anything revelatory. :)
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It seems Mark is putting himself out there at the moment more than he has in many years, I wonder if a combination of stopping touring and his age is giving him to option to do more things.
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It seems Mark is putting himself out there at the moment more than he has in many years, I wonder if a combination of stopping touring and his age is giving him to option to do more things.
Compared with other artists of his stature and generation, isn't it a bit unusual, though? Especially considering how Mark generally does not seek attention. He (including DS) has featured regularly, and quite often, in the media since the release of the DS live box set last fall. I have a hard time thinking it's a coincidence. Which begs the question: Why? And: Why now?
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It seems Mark is putting himself out there at the moment more than he has in many years, I wonder if a combination of stopping touring and his age is giving him to option to do more things.
Compared with other artists of his stature and generation, isn't it a bit unusual, though? Especially considering how Mark generally does not seek attention. He (including DS) has featured regularly, and quite often, in the media since the release of the DS live box set last fall. I have a hard time thinking it's a coincidence. Which begs the question: Why? And: Why now?
It's just promotion. He always does promotion to a lesser or greater extent. He used to go across Europe with a little band, obviously he's not doing that anymore. so more interviews.
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It seems Mark is putting himself out there at the moment more than he has in many years, I wonder if a combination of stopping touring and his age is giving him to option to do more things.
Compared with other artists of his stature and generation, isn't it a bit unusual, though? Especially considering how Mark generally does not seek attention. He (including DS) has featured regularly, and quite often, in the media since the release of the DS live box set last fall. I have a hard time thinking it's a coincidence. Which begs the question: Why? And: Why now?
Usually he would release an album and do a tour that would generate lots and lots of money/attention, I have a theory that the DS box set , potentially the guitar sale event and other events are a good way of generating income/advertising instead of a tour to potentially pacify the record company/advertisters/supporters?
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Really nice interview with the legend that is Twiggy.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/1nr5qoQDpgEpHTPQt5PWAS?si=4541b0ab2a58436a
A lot of the "favourites" (Uncle Kingsley makes an appearance) but a few new nuggets. Did we know what the first record MK ever bought was before?!
Seems MK is finally embracing the promo opportunities offered by podcasts. :)
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Really nice interview with the legend that is Twiggy.
https://open.spotify.com/episode/1nr5qoQDpgEpHTPQt5PWAS?si=4541b0ab2a58436a
A lot of the "favourites" (Uncle Kingsley makes an appearance) but a few new nuggets. Did we know what the first record MK ever bought was before?!
Seems MK is finally embracing the promo opportunities offered by podcasts. :)
Oh, this is lovely! Thank you. Mark's in a good mood, and women like Twiggy, so bubbling and outgoing, just bring out the best in him. Great to hear him chit-chat about tea making ha-ha
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This is what I mean, now he isn't preparing to tour he has more time on his hands for this kind of thing, to me, it's like a new (ish) Mark
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Thank you so much dusty for this lovely interview with Twiggy. Mark sounds so comfortable and really relaxed. In one part of the interview Twiggy mentioned Paul Anka's Diana and it immediately brought back memories for me of going to the Liverpool Empire, when I was 14, to see Paul with one of my friends and he sang Diana - we were very close to the stage too. Later after the show we went to the stage door and he signed our autograph books. Great memories! Still listening.....
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Oh, my goodness! Listen to all the stuff that Mark remembers! During many interviews he's often said "oh, I don't remember" or "I have no idea what it was". Clearly it's just because he couldn't be bothered LOL
Seriously, Mark (since you're reading this anyway ;D ), write an autobiography!
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I remember his radio shows. His knowledge and memory made a great impression on me.
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Very nice. And he said his next album has to get ready faster and he will have to put some rockers on it
;) :wave
LE
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"David, is that your brother?"
"Yeah. He makes his own records!"
;D ;D
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"David, is that your brother?"
"Yeah. He makes his own records!"
;D ;D
Instant diversion LOL
I also loved Twiggy's reaction when Mark talked about remembering lyrics and he said "If I was in the mood to punish you." ;D
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I didn't had the nerve to ask my dad for an amplifier :lol
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First time he admits he gave up touring btw...
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First time he admits he gave up touring btw...
I lost many of what he said... Didn't heard that.
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Very nice. And he said his next album has to get ready faster and he will have to put some rockers on it
;) :wave
LE
I also lost that... My hear is not as good as I thought in English. Lack of practice, indeed.
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Very nice. And he said his next album has to get ready faster and he will have to put some rockers on it
;) :wave
LE
I also lost that... My hear is not as good as I thought in English. Lack of practice, indeed.
I lost much more :(
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First time he admits he gave up touring btw...
I lost many of what he said... Didn't heard that.
36.24
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From memory, when she asked about the new album, he said "well, it took too long to make it, and it is... slow."
LE
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Mark is slow, not the album
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No. Listen to around 45:44
"And how is it? It is slow" Mark says.
LE
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I really love the way he comes across lately. As eloquent as ever, with a lot of humour, not cynical as back in 2018... and so many little stories and remembers it all so good. Really a joy to listen to him. Much better than 25 years ago. If his physical condition should be reason for not touring anymore, there is no doubt that he doesn't suffer in things like mood, optimism, wittness and thinking. He really must be fun to have around.
LE
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Maybe he has just "made peace with himself" and just accepted the fact he'll not be touring anymore? Could have been a burden on his shoulders before he made that final decision.
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First time he admits he gave up touring btw...
He also said it in the interview with GoodTimes (see my thread in the German corner).
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I was listening it while working and thought I was catching the important stuff but obviously I missed a lot of things, would have to capture it and listen to it with 100% attention...
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Listen to it again. It's worth every minute.
LE
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Listen to it again. It's worth every minute.
LE
I laughed quite loud at work when Twiggy asked him about David and he answers "he's doing his own records now".
What a great sense of humour he has, I have big expectations now for his TV show with Brian Johnson.
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First time he admits he gave up touring btw...
He also said it in the interview with GoodTimes (see my thread in the German corner).
My German is a bit short for that, only studied and passed the first course, and it was so demanding I couldn't dare with the second course, of a total of six!
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Listen to it again. It's worth every minute.
LE
I laughed quite loud at work when Twiggy asked him about David and he answers "he's doing his own records now".
What a great sense of humour he has, I have big expectations now for his TV show with Brian Johnson.
He just says "he's making his own records" pretty neutral without any humourous Intention.
LE
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Listen to it again. It's worth every minute.
LE
I laughed quite loud at work when Twiggy asked him about David and he answers "he's doing his own records now".
What a great sense of humour he has, I have big expectations now for his TV show with Brian Johnson.
He just says "he's making his own records" pretty neutral without any humourous Intention.
LE
But it's funny the way he says it, at least for me, saying that as an answer.
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First time he admits he gave up touring btw...
He also said it in the interview with GoodTimes (see my thread in the German corner).
What does he says exactly?
Did he says anything further that he gave up doing it?
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Listen to it again. It's worth every minute.
LE
I laughed quite loud at work when Twiggy asked him about David and he answers "he's doing his own records now".
What a great sense of humour he has, I have big expectations now for his TV show with Brian Johnson.
He just says "he's making his own records" pretty neutral without any humourous Intention.
LE
But it's funny the way he says it, at least for me, saying that as an answer.
Listened to it again. She asks somehow stupidly " and David.. David is your Brother?" "Yes. Makes his own records."
Nothing really funny but of course you can't argue about what someone finds funny and what not.
LE
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First time he admits he gave up touring btw...
He also said it in the interview with GoodTimes (see my thread in the German corner).
What does he says exactly?
Did he says anything further that he gave up doing it?
I just gave up touring recently.. And that he absolutely loved it, and was really made for it. Also loved rehearsing.
Something like that
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What kind of question is this: David is your Brother? :o
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First time he admits he gave up touring btw...
He also said it in the interview with GoodTimes (see my thread in the German corner).
What does he says exactly?
Did he says anything further that he gave up doing it?
I just gave up touring recently.. And that he absolutely loved it, and was really made for it. Also loved rehearsing.
Something like that
So in Good times he said the same than in the podcast?
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Listen to it again. It's worth every minute.
LE
I laughed quite loud at work when Twiggy asked him about David and he answers "he's doing his own records now".
What a great sense of humour he has, I have big expectations now for his TV show with Brian Johnson.
He just says "he's making his own records" pretty neutral without any humourous Intention.
LE
But it's funny the way he says it, at least for me, saying that as an answer.
Listened to it again. She asks somehow stupidly " and David.. David is your Brother?" "Yes. Makes his own records."
Nothing really funny but of course you can't argue about what someone finds funny and what not.
LE
Agree, it made me laugh, I found it funny, but I'm talking about me and my reaction to that question and answer, doesn't means it's funny to anyone else, lol
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I really enjoyed the interview, Mark was on good form, who would have known Mark was friends with Twiggy :think This is the kind of interview I prefer, not music journalists etc, this was more relaxed and fun, and they clearly talked for longer than the podcast released, as Mark was saying good luck with editing this.
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I really enjoyed the interview, Mark was on good form, who would have known Mark was friends with Twiggy :think This is the kind of interview I prefer, not music journalists etc, this was more relaxed and fun, and they clearly talked for longer than the podcast released, as Mark was saying good luck with editing this.
It seems like if your last name is Lawson, you're gonna get a great interview with Mark. Yes, I just returned from listening to the interview, it's great! Hilarious Mark insisting on PG Tips and constantly joking, what a treat. And it's more like a conversation, doesn't feel like an interrogation at all. 10/10
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I can't wait for the Nigella Lawson interview next :lol
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Oh goodie - we can play spot the shoe again!
I don't like these either, but I guess if you suffer from back aches to the extent Mark has, you stop caring about how they look.
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All formats on MK shop. 12th April
Incl. box set
https://shop.markknopfler.com
And for anyone who has not yet pre-ordered (or is flush with cash), there is now a limited edition vinyl/CD and signed art card version available.
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All formats on MK shop. 12th April
Incl. box set
https://shop.markknopfler.com
And for anyone who has not yet pre-ordered (or is flush with cash), there is now a limited edition vinyl/CD and signed art card version available.
Sold out!
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All formats on MK shop. 12th April
Incl. box set
https://shop.markknopfler.com
And for anyone who has not yet pre-ordered (or is flush with cash), there is now a limited edition vinyl/CD and signed art card version available.
Sold out!
And it was only available in the UK shop
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on topic, whos placed a virtual padlock on the bridge for exclusive content on MK.COM
There was supposed to be 'new exclusive content' every monday.
An official email from markknopfler.com even said so last week, but nothing appeared yesterday.
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on topic, whos placed a virtual padlock on the bridge for exclusive content on MK.COM
There was supposed to be 'new exclusive content' every monday.
An official email from markknopfler.com even said so last week, but nothing appeared yesterday.
I'm pushing F5 every second since yesterdaymorning...
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How does it work? I left a lock last week or so. But cannit find it there within those 1000 locks. So when I return to the site, what habe I got to do to get the exclusive content?
LE
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There are 2 white big slots at the moment, there you find the exclusive content. I'm expecting a third white/big slot to appear soon..
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Ok found it. Thanks.
LE
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Another song will be released on Wednesday,
This was just announced on Facebook
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https://www.instagram.com/reel/C4_JwqAMNkC/?igsh=MWVpdmV0d3dnaHh5MA==
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:thumbsup :thumbsup
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Also the intro of EPK part 1 again. I bet its the album opener Two pairs of hand. I said it then, now again.
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Yes, it will be Two Pairs Of Hand.
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Yes, it will be Two Pairs Of Hand.
:lol
LE
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I think it will be available after midnight :think
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Yes, it will be Two Pairs Of Hand.
:lol
LE
LE still thinks its Tunnel 13 😉
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This means another short night again
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I think it will be available after midnight :think
Let's hope so!!
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This means another short night again
Exactly! :)
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Yes, it will be Two Pairs Of Hand.
:lol
LE
LE still thinks its Tunnel 13 😉
No, it's just funny how confident Robson sounds. It is clear after all we heard that the snippet is from the opener.. sounds extremely cool. I am really looking forward to hear it completely.
LE
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If there were no comparisons to JJ, I wouldn't be sure ;)
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Also the intro of EPK part 1 again. I bet its the album opener Two pairs of hand. I said it then, now again.
Btw, I have trouble finding all the track lengths from the new songs. I know they are somewhere in this thread. Would it be possible to add the lengths in the song topics of each song as we did with earlier albums?
LE
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Also the intro of EPK part 1 again. I bet its the album opener Two pairs of hand. I said it then, now again.
Btw, I have trouble finding all the track lengths from the new songs. I know they are somewhere in this thread. Would it be possible to add the lengths in the song topics of each song as we did with earlier albums?
LE
1. "Two Pairs of Hands" 4:05
2. "Ahead of the Game" 3:56
3. "Smart Money" 4:27
4. "Scavengers Yard" 4:33
5. "Black Tie Jobs" 2:57
6. "Tunnel 13" 5:27
7. "Janine" 4:42
8. "Watch Me Gone" 5:02
9. "Sweeter Than the Rain" 4:16
10. "Before My Train Comes" 4:04
11. "This One's Not Going to End Well" 4:00
12. "One Deep River" 4:17
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Yes, it will be Two Pairs Of Hand.
:lol
LE
LE still thinks its Tunnel 13 😉
Camerado and me thinks the 2nd fragment of EPK part1 is the intro of Tunnel 13.
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According to Apple Music, the two most popular tracks as for today are Two Pairs Of Hands and Smart Money. At least these two have a dot next to them which would suggest the highest number of streams? Weird, given the fact they are not even the two tracks that were made available to public.
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According to Apple Music, the two most popular tracks as for today are Two Pairs Of Hands and Smart Money. At least these two have a dot next to them which would suggest the highest number of streams? Weird, given the fact they are not even the two tracks that were made available to public.
Yeah, saw that yesterday and I had the same thoughts, weird. Maybe it’s based on a prediction algorithm ? Will see.
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New content on the bridge!
See 'sweeter than the rain' thread
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Nice little vid on MK's x account:
https://twitter.com/MarkKnopfler/status/1772684945594654818 (https://twitter.com/MarkKnopfler/status/1772684945594654818), in case you haven't seen it yet.
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7 days! :)
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It's going to be One Long Week...
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It's going to be One Long Week...
It's true but the reward will be very big :)
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Nice interview
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/2024/04/06/mark-knopfler-on-the-end-of-dire-straits-maybe-i-should-have-kept-playing-let-it-get-as-big-as-brazil/?fbclid=IwAR0Omka5dTI5g5koQMkU5nNA0UPfu1PpEJKyWYoJTxKdmxeXNx5pKImbxKw_aem_AUyDoxR4MU2D5poz69Amy_WUPpDTCB6QaDYVDs1W_V_6UZmaRu4pOJZFotm56PDXUFE
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Thank you:) I thought there would be more news about the new album.
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Thank you:) I thought there would be more news about the new album.
I love the part about Irish literature and Rory Gallagher. We heard so much about the album already but this was new to me.
LE
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Thank you:) I thought there would be more news about the new album.
I love the part about Irish literature and Rory Gallagher. We heard so much about the album already but this was new to me.
LE
Yes it's true. I agree.
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Hi guys!
We're now close to the release of Mark's album and I'm wondering: what happened to the 30 second snippets? Does it make more sense now to release them a few days after the album's release? Do you know anything about it?
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Also curious about the track lenghts of the rest of the tracks
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Also curious about the track lenghts of the rest of the tracks
Exactly. I check often and nothing.
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Media Markt Germany says that the 2CD Set has a running time of 70 minutes which would mean 19 minutes for the 5 bonus tracks. Which means the usual 4 minute lengths... (they correctly say that the single CD is 51 min so I guess they have it right.)
LE
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Thats good info LE, thanks!
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Thank you for the info LE :)
I'm also very curious here:
Mr. Solomons Said
The Boy
All Comers
Bad Day For A Knife Thrower
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Thank you for the info LE :)
I'm also very curious here:
Mr. Solomons Said
The Boy
All Comers
Bad Day For A Knife Thrower
Probably average duration between 3 and 5 minutes, they are in a maxi lp so that makes sense
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Nice interview
https://www.irishtimes.com/culture/music/2024/04/06/mark-knopfler-on-the-end-of-dire-straits-maybe-i-should-have-kept-playing-let-it-get-as-big-as-brazil/?fbclid=IwAR0Omka5dTI5g5koQMkU5nNA0UPfu1PpEJKyWYoJTxKdmxeXNx5pKImbxKw_aem_AUyDoxR4MU2D5poz69Amy_WUPpDTCB6QaDYVDs1W_V_6UZmaRu4pOJZFotm56PDXUFE
Nice indeed. And finally the world got to know the backstory of Money For Nothing ;D
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New video from Lock Bridge:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vkwgbVZy2eU&t=5s
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It seems markknopfler.com did already send out the album? Anybody got it??
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Jepp. Sounds nice. Bonus tracks are all killers.
LE
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Jepp. Sounds nice. Bonus tracks are all killers.
LE
Hahaha, joker
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It seems markknopfler.com did already send out the album? Anybody got it??
a french FB friend received it yesterday
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:o :o :clap
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Seems some Spanish people already received it too, not me or anyone I know, sadly for me :smack
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If anyone has it please be in touch via DM
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I find it amusing that people just can't wait to listen! Maybe I just don't care as much anymore but I'm happy to wait until my blu-ray arrives so I can sit down and listen properly. :)
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I find it amusing that people just can't wait to listen! Maybe I just don't care as much anymore but I'm happy to wait until my blu-ray arrives so I can sit down and listen properly. :)
Just excited for the new music :-)
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We've waited six years, so what's another few days?
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We've waited six years, so what's another few days?
Like in a desert wihout water, one day might be too much :) However, I will be waiting.
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Oh my God, it's only Tuesday.
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We've waited six years, so what's another few days?
Like in a desert wihout water, one day might be too much :) However, I will be waiting.
Funnily enough I'm scouring the internet looking for places to get the album sooner or for any leaks!
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Let’s see: I just got an email that my 2CD is on it’s way (tracking details shared, awaiting package) and the EP will arrive on the 15th it says. Well, first see, then believe! :lol
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I would doubt that the EP would be delivered before Record Store Day which is on April 20th.
LE
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Bonus track
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Let’s see: I just got an email that my 2CD is on it’s way (tracking details shared, awaiting package) and the EP will arrive on the 15th it says. Well, first see, then believe! :lol
From MK shop?
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Let’s see: I just got an email that my 2CD is on it’s way (tracking details shared, awaiting package) and the EP will arrive on the 15th it says. Well, first see, then believe! :lol
From MK shop?
Nope, Platenzaak (Dutch webshop) for ODR, ordered The Boy via Ebay.
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Should we create a new topic for the AMIT reviews and opinions?
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New video about Two pairs of hands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z_Yj2QNg-k
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We've waited six years, so what's another few days?
Like in a desert wihout water, one day might be too much :) However, I will be waiting.
Funnily enough I'm scouring the internet looking for places to get the album sooner or for any leaks!
I must confess, I had a quick look as well.
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Should we create a new topic for the AMIT reviews and opinions?
Good idea :thumbsup
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We've waited six years, so what's another few days?
Like in a desert wihout water, one day might be too much :) However, I will be waiting.
Funnily enough I'm scouring the internet looking for places to get the album sooner or for any leaks!
I must confess, I had a quick look as well.
So did I. But it seems that those days of early leaks are over. Or at least Google has learned how to hide them. Still - you know where to reach me if you should find something. ;)
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Has anyone else noticed the similarity of the cover photo (of the Tyne Bridge (NOT the much older High Level Bridge !) to the Five Bridges Suite issued by the Nice in 1970 ?
I'll bet it was in MK's record collection in the 1970s....
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Party on Friday!
https://youtu.be/FyjiwtUATvQ?si=KSmgXHu1beCkz_NC
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Party on Friday!
https://youtu.be/FyjiwtUATvQ?si=KSmgXHu1beCkz_NC
Drinks are on Mark!
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Party on Friday!
https://youtu.be/FyjiwtUATvQ?si=KSmgXHu1beCkz_NC
That's the song 'before my train comes'
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Party on Friday!
https://youtu.be/FyjiwtUATvQ?si=KSmgXHu1beCkz_NC
That's the song 'before my train comes'
It sounded similar to AOTG to me.
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We've waited six years, so what's another few days?
Like in a desert wihout water, one day might be too much :) However, I will be waiting.
Funnily enough I'm scouring the internet looking for places to get the album sooner or for any leaks!
I must confess, I had a quick look as well.
So did I. But it seems that those days of early leaks are over. Or at least Google has learned how to hide them. Still - you know where to reach me if you should find something. ;)
:think
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How envious! ;) my Blu-ray just shipped today... :-\the waiting is killing me :smack
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Any shares?
I promised myself that I was going to wait but the anticipation is getting a bit too much.
And my boxset is only leaving amazon on the 16th ::)
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Any shares?
I promised myself that I was going to wait but the anticipation is getting a bit too much.
And my boxset is only leaving amazon on the 16th ::)
Lucky you. I've got no news from Amazon so far, although I ordered it weeks ago. :-(
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New video about Two pairs of hands: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1z_Yj2QNg-k
My friends and most dedicated fans of Mr. Knopfler and his music, "Two Pairs of Hands" is a very close take on "Go It Alone" from Noonday Underground. Half a step below, same vibe same tempo some of the same changes throughout, and even arrangement / soundwise (on Go It Alone, check out 0´26´´ / Mark´s Two Pairs check @ 1´04´´). It´s an inspired tune, that makes me feel as it is harks back to some of the late Straits vibe, I love it all, but so do I love Noonday´s hit Go It Alone. Seems probable to me anyway, the connection, inspiration, incorporation or whatever one wants to call it. Cheers to you all
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRcn2DAvXKg
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Any idea will I be able to download the album at midnight in Australia, if I use VPN? That is quite soon...
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Any idea will I be able to download the album at midnight in Australia, if I use VPN? That is quite soon...
This works! Listening now via Youtube music.
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Any idea will I be able to download the album at midnight in Australia, if I use VPN? That is quite soon...
This works! Listening now via Youtube music.
How do you manage? I'm trying all I can with VPN. ;D
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Any idea will I be able to download the album at midnight in Australia, if I use VPN? That is quite soon...
This works! Listening now via Youtube music.
How do you manage? I'm trying all I can with VPN. ;D
Not sure :D VPN to Australia ja then to Mark Knopfler shop and you get options where to listen to the album.
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https://youtube.com/shorts/hxwvAbGGFL0?si=JX37GVAGSkbwVV97
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Any idea will I be able to download the album at midnight in Australia, if I use VPN? That is quite soon...
This works! Listening now via Youtube music.
How do you manage? I'm trying all I can with VPN. ;D
Not sure :D VPN to Australia ja then to Mark Knopfler shop and you get options where to listen to the album.
It worked after deleting cache. :)
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"One Deep River" release is tonight at midnight.
Do you think this is UK time ?
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"One Deep River" release is tonight at midnight.
Do you think this is UK time ?
Check my and Maxx's messages above.
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I received information that the album was on its way to me. There will be no delay. There is joy :) :)
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I received information that the album was on its way to me. There will be no delay. There is joy :) :)
Finally! :thumbsup
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I received information that the album was on its way to me. There will be no delay. There is joy :) :)
Finally! :thumbsup
Yes! ;)
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All lyrics from the standard edition are updated in each dedicated thread per song.
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My Blu-ray is on its way! :lolI listened to the whole thing via spotify anyway, WONDERFUL. I can't wait to listen in Dolby Atmos. Does anyone know if the bonus tracks included on the vinyl are available for purchase anywhere? I don't have a turntable, I would like to avoid purchasing the box set. :-\
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My Blu-ray is on its way! :lolI listened to the whole thing via spotify anyway, WONDERFUL. I can't wait to listen in Dolby Atmos. Does anyone know if the bonus tracks included on the vinyl are available for purchase anywhere? I don't have a turntable, I would like to avoid purchasing the box set. :-\
No. For now anyway.
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I'm about to go away for the weekend and delayed my departure hoping the postman would come....a few moments ago I decided I could delay no more, so got my hat, coat and car keys. As I approached the front door, the bell went. It was the postman. He handed me my mail. One Deep River included. I am now setting off with my first listen awaiting in the car.....bliss. Happy release day everyone!
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Is the Atmos mix available on any streaming platform?
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Is the Atmos mix available on any streaming platform?
Amazon music had the three previous singles, I guess the other 11 songs would be too in Atmos if you have the Unlimited account.
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Has anyone listened to the 4 bonus songs on vinyl?
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Has anyone listened to the 4 bonus songs on vinyl?
Not yet, still travelling back from London!
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Has anyone listened to the 4 bonus songs on vinyl?
Not yet, still travelling back from London!
:thumbsup I'm very curious if "Chess" is about his father.
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what about the titles chess, your leading man, wrong'un, dolly shop man ?
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what about the titles chess, your leading man, wrong'un, dolly shop man ?
Lyrics have been added...
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Has anyone listened to the 4 bonus songs on vinyl?
Not yet, still travelling back from London!
:thumbsup I'm very curious if "Chess" is about his father.
Might be but I'm not sure??
https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=8726.0
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2CD Edition 39,99 € and standard vinyl 2LP 62,- € on Amazon.de, wtf?
LE
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Has anyone listened to the 4 bonus songs on vinyl?
Let me preface this by saying that for me one listen counts for almost nothing.
Dolly shop men: beautiful, very rhythmic, chorus so-so but the rest really addictive
Your leading man: track with a retro flavour, rhythm like rumba or cha cha cha. Not exactly my cup of tea
Wrong 'un: light and negligible, on the album it would have been out of tune
Chess: not very Knopflerian, atmospheres almost... South American? I find it intriguing, but even this is better here than on the album. And no, it's not about his father.
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I have the 2cd set but why are those bonus songs and the vinyl bonus songs not on the streaming platforms or the iTunes Store? Is there a way to hear the vinyl tracks if you don’t own the super de luxe box??
I don’t have a vinyl player and that the box didn’t include download codes that’s the reason I didn’t bought the super box
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I have the 2cd set but why are those bonus songs and the vinyl bonus songs not on the streaming platforms or the iTunes Store? Is there a way to hear the vinyl tracks if you don’t own the super de luxe box??
I don’t have a vinyl player and that the box didn’t include download codes that’s the reason I didn’t bought the super box
I'm in the same boat. And without the download code it looks like it impossible to get those tracks in a good quality. But anyway, if anyone is willing to share recordings of vinyl bonuses I would be very grateful
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I have the 2cd set but why are those bonus songs and the vinyl bonus songs not on the streaming platforms or the iTunes Store? Is there a way to hear the vinyl tracks if you don’t own the super de luxe box??
I don’t have a vinyl player and that the box didn’t include download codes that’s the reason I didn’t bought the super box
I'm in the same boat. And without the download code it looks like it impossible to get those tracks in a good quality. But anyway, if anyone is willing to share recordings of vinyl bonuses I would be very grateful
I'm in the same situation and have the same questions.
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Same situation ; same questions :smack :wave
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in the part 1 presentation video, we hear a keyboard synth intro that I don't find in the album, was this a title that they didn't include?
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in the part 1 presentation video, we hear a keyboard synth intro that I don't find in the album, was this a title that they didn't include?
We probably hear this part on "The Boy" EP or in the bonus songs on the vinyl version. I don't remember at the moment. But someone mentioned it.
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in the part 1 presentation video, we hear a keyboard synth intro that I don't find in the album, was this a title that they didn't include?
We probably hear this part on "The Boy" EP or in the bonus songs on the vinyl version. I don't remember at the moment. But someone mentioned it.
It's 'All Comers', lucky enough to hear the premier yesterday in person in London and its' gonna make you all very excited.
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in the part 1 presentation video, we hear a keyboard synth intro that I don't find in the album, was this a title that they didn't include?
We probably hear this part on "The Boy" EP or in the bonus songs on the vinyl version. I don't remember at the moment. But someone mentioned it.
It's 'All Comers', lucky enough to hear the premier yesterday in person in London and its' gonna make you all very excited.
Yes! Thanks :)
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in the part 1 presentation video, we hear a keyboard synth intro that I don't find in the album, was this a title that they didn't include?
We probably hear this part on "The Boy" EP or in the bonus songs on the vinyl version. I don't remember at the moment. But someone mentioned it.
It's 'All Comers', lucky enough to hear the premier yesterday in person in London and its' gonna make you all very excited.
I can only echo what has been said and I think you all will really enjoy 'All comers'
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To me, ODR is one of the most beautiful, haunting and elegant works of art. What strikes me most is the elegant and poetic guitar playing. He still can do it!
The record sounds mindblowing, too. Every MK album out of BGS sounds better than the ones before. And this has to be the pinnacle.
...so who's Janine, then? :D
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I think with the 9 bonustracks and the upcoming The Boy EP you will have a good second album.
I am very happy that they released in total 25 new tracks we can enjoy!!
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Nerd level analysis of the different formats:
https://magicvinyldigital.net/2024/04/13/mark-knopfler-one-deep-river-review-test-box-vinyl-record-cd-tidal-max-tidal-dolby-atmos/
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Nerd level analysis of the different formats:
https://magicvinyldigital.net/2024/04/13/mark-knopfler-one-deep-river-review-test-box-vinyl-record-cd-tidal-max-tidal-dolby-atmos/
Brilliant read there sir....
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Nerd level analysis of the different formats:
https://magicvinyldigital.net/2024/04/13/mark-knopfler-one-deep-river-review-test-box-vinyl-record-cd-tidal-max-tidal-dolby-atmos/
Yep that's a really good article.
Thanks.
Brilliant read there sir....
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Apparently MK will be on the Chris Evans show on Virgin radio soon.
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Apparently MK will be on the Chris Evans show on Virgin radio soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DakCv_jz3w
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Apparently MK will be on the Chris Evans show on Virgin radio soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DakCv_jz3w
:thumbsup Thank you very much :)
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Lovely interview. Thank you so much.
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Apparently MK will be on the Chris Evans show on Virgin radio soon.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7DakCv_jz3w
Thank you :thumbsup
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Brilliant thankyou....
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Really enjoyable, thank you! :)
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MKNews
Jannie wins ;)
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A bit confusing, but it appears that Taylor Swift's new album has four CD release, with one bonus track on each...
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What do you think about the artwork of the album? I think it is nice, but photos of Mark are quite weird.
On the lyrics it is disappointing that also in the first verse of Watch me gone there is written "Watch me go babe, watch me gone" although Mark sings there "go" on both occasions, which is very nice stylistic thing.
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What do you do when you don't have a vinyl turntable? Mark is reserved for an elite? how to buy them???
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Yes. Mark makes his music only for Elites. Happy now?
LE
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I’m in the elite and the illuminati so I feel this music was made just for me.
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I’m in the elite and the illuminati so I feel this music was made just for me.
Ssh don't give it away!
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It makes no sense to restrict the audience for your music. I would have bought the box set without hesitation had you been able to access the bonus tracks digitally.
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It makes no sense to restrict the audience for your music. I would have bought the box set without hesitation had you been able to access the bonus tracks digitally.
It is not restricted.
Anyone can buy a turntable and access the extra tracks.
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It makes no sense to restrict the audience for your music. I would have bought the box set without hesitation had you been able to access the bonus tracks digitally.
It is not restricted.
Anyone can buy a turntable and access the extra tracks.
Trolling much?
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Here, an interview with Mark, broadcast yesterday on an Italian radio/TV.
https://play.rtl.it/interviste/17/mark-knopfler-radiofreccia-il-grande-musicista-inglese-ex-dire-straits-ha-raccontato-ai-microfoni-di-radiofreccia-il-decimo-album-solista-one-deep-river
(https://i.postimg.cc/8cmwym22/1713623453652.jpg)
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Nice! Thank you. :)
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Hi Olivier,
The Boy EP will be available digitally in May. Some initial exclusivity for the Record Store Day campaign to support independent record stores is not unusual. We’ll announce the release on Mark’s website/social channels closer to time.
Kind regards,
CMG
a: 10 Tottenham Mews, London W1T 4AF
e: info@c-m-g.com | t: +44 (0) 20 7637 7574
c-m-g.com
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Hi Olivier,
The Boy EP will be available digitally in May. Some initial exclusivity for the Record Store Day campaign to support independent record stores is not unusual. We’ll announce the release on Mark’s website/social channels closer to time.
Kind regards,
CMG
a: 10 Tottenham Mews, London W1T 4AF
e: info@c-m-g.com | t: +44 (0) 20 7637 7574
c-m-g.com
:clap
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Hi Olivier,
The Boy EP will be available digitally in May. Some initial exclusivity for the Record Store Day campaign to support independent record stores is not unusual. We’ll announce the release on Mark’s website/social channels closer to time.
Kind regards,
CMG
a: 10 Tottenham Mews, London W1T 4AF
e: info@c-m-g.com | t: +44 (0) 20 7637 7574
c-m-g.com
And what about a CD? Apparently there would be a CD according to Guy.
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I am really astonished that you STILL believe or take for granted what Guy says. He has made clear more than once that he doesn't care about release strategies and when he throws in a "surely", it has the same weight as if any other fan makes an assumption.
Good news about the digital release! That person seems to ask the right questions. Maybe he/she should ask if the vinyl bonus songs are planned to be released digitally, too.
LE
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Gotta say - the novelty wore off quickly with this album.
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Gotta say - the novelty wore off quickly with this album.
I like it and seem to have a different tune stuck in my head each day.
Need to spend more time with all the bonus tracks now.
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I am really astonished that you STILL believe or take for granted what Guy says. He has made clear more than once that he doesn't care about release strategies and when he throws in a "surely", it has the same weight as if any other fan makes an assumption.
Good news about the digital release! That person seems to ask the right questions. Maybe he/she should ask if the vinyl bonus songs are planned to be released digitally, too.
LE
He's one of the only sources from the inside, but I don't take anything for granted, the person who answered from the management was only asked about a digital version of the record, and they say they would announce it in May, so having just that information, there is still an option there is a cd, unless they say no.
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I am really astonished that you STILL believe or take for granted what Guy says. He has made clear more than once that he doesn't care about release strategies and when he throws in a "surely", it has the same weight as if any other fan makes an assumption.
Good news about the digital release! That person seems to ask the right questions. Maybe he/she should ask if the vinyl bonus songs are planned to be released digitally, too.
LE
He's one of the only sources from the inside, but I don't take anything for granted, the person who answered from the management was only asked about a digital version of the record, and they say they would announce it in May, so having just that information, there is still an option there is a cd, unless they say no.
You never know, but I'm not too optimistic about a CD. I don't know how many they think they would sell with it being out on vinyl and streaming.
We should point out that the Atmos blu-rays have sold out quickly and push for that as a physical release.
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Gotta say - the novelty wore off quickly with this album.
I like it and seem to have a different tune stuck in my head each day.
Need to spend more time with all the bonus tracks now.
It just doesn't "suck me in". I think I'll save it for the autumn :thumbsup
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I am really astonished that you STILL believe or take for granted what Guy says. He has made clear more than once that he doesn't care about release strategies and when he throws in a "surely", it has the same weight as if any other fan makes an assumption.
Good news about the digital release! That person seems to ask the right questions. Maybe he/she should ask if the vinyl bonus songs are planned to be released digitally, too.
LE
He's one of the only sources from the inside, but I don't take anything for granted, the person who answered from the management was only asked about a digital version of the record, and they say they would announce it in May, so having just that information, there is still an option there is a cd, unless they say no.
You never know, but I'm not too optimistic about a CD. I don't know how many they think they would sell with it being out on vinyl and streaming.
We should point out that the Atmos blu-rays have sold out quickly and push for that as a physical release.
Yeah, a cd just with four songs would be weird nowadays, but in the old times they released cd singles with just 2 songs so, who knows?
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I am really astonished that you STILL believe or take for granted what Guy says. He has made clear more than once that he doesn't care about release strategies and when he throws in a "surely", it has the same weight as if any other fan makes an assumption.
Good news about the digital release! That person seems to ask the right questions. Maybe he/she should ask if the vinyl bonus songs are planned to be released digitally, too.
LE
He's one of the only sources from the inside, but I don't take anything for granted, the person who answered from the management was only asked about a digital version of the record, and they say they would announce it in May, so having just that information, there is still an option there is a cd, unless they say no.
You never know, but I'm not too optimistic about a CD. I don't know how many they think they would sell with it being out on vinyl and streaming.
We should point out that the Atmos blu-rays have sold out quickly and push for that as a physical release.
Yeah, a cd just with four songs would be weird nowadays, but in the old times they released cd singles with just 2 songs so, who knows?
Imagine they’d release a CD with just ONE song on it! Imagine it’s one of Knopfler and he doesn’t even sing on it! Oh wait… ;D
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Gotta say - the novelty wore off quickly with this album.
I like it and seem to have a different tune stuck in my head each day.
Need to spend more time with all the bonus tracks now.
Same here! Still enjoy his new album.
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I am really astonished that you STILL believe or take for granted what Guy says. He has made clear more than once that he doesn't care about release strategies and when he throws in a "surely", it has the same weight as if any other fan makes an assumption.
Good news about the digital release! That person seems to ask the right questions. Maybe he/she should ask if the vinyl bonus songs are planned to be released digitally, too.
LE
He's one of the only sources from the inside, but I don't take anything for granted, the person who answered from the management was only asked about a digital version of the record, and they say they would announce it in May, so having just that information, there is still an option there is a cd, unless they say no.
You never know, but I'm not too optimistic about a CD. I don't know how many they think they would sell with it being out on vinyl and streaming.
We should point out that the Atmos blu-rays have sold out quickly and push for that as a physical release.
Yeah, a cd just with four songs would be weird nowadays, but in the old times they released cd singles with just 2 songs so, who knows?
Imagine they’d release a CD with just ONE song on it! Imagine it’s one of Knopfler and he doesn’t even sing on it! Oh wait… ;D
Oh, go home already!
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They could alternatively comprise a mini album on CD containing The Boy EP + ODR bonus vinyl EP tracks. Oh wait… that would probably be too convenient for the paying customer.
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They could alternatively comprise a mini album on CD containing The Boy EP + ODR bonus vinyl EP tracks. Oh wait… that would probably be too convenient for the paying customer.
And also artistically, a nonsense.
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They could alternatively comprise a mini album on CD containing The Boy EP + ODR bonus vinyl EP tracks. Oh wait… that would probably be too convenient for the paying customer.
Might have to wait for the next studio albums box set for that ;D
Seriously, this album seems to have been marketed much more aggressively than any previous release, so I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of some form of mini album release in the future.
I personally would love something along the lines of the “One Take Radio Sessions” EP
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They could alternatively comprise a mini album on CD containing The Boy EP + ODR bonus vinyl EP tracks. Oh wait… that would probably be too convenient for the paying customer.
Might have to wait for the next studio albums box set for that ;D
Seriously, this album seems to have been marketed much more aggressively than any previous release, so I wouldn’t rule out the possibility of some form of mini album release in the future.
I personally would love something along the lines of the “One Take Radio Sessions” EP
Problem is I guess that One Take Radio Sessions was from a time when people actually bought CDs. Nowadays, not so much.
Even after all our panic it seems like 3,000 copies of The Boy was too many...
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Yeah but the circumstances were limited in many ways .. only one day, only independent stores, not garantueed that they got copies, plus hundreds of other RSD releases in competition to spend your money otherwise. It seems like they tried to make an experiment to chose the least possible way to sell records.
LE
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Finally arrived! Dolby Atmos Wow!
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GF:
We didn’t finish more than are released. There are more songs though.
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GF:
We didn’t finish more than are released. There are more songs though.
:o
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GF:
We didn’t finish more than are released. There are more songs though.
:o
So we can expect more in the future. That's how I read it!
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Ofcourse, Mark said in all the interviews he will continue writing and making records.
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You guys are amazing, we've just had 25 new songs and you are still demanding more!
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You guys are amazing, we've just had 25 new songs and you are still demanding more!
Not at all, we are demanding nothing, just interpreting Guy's words.
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I was meaning more the original question to GF.
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You guys are amazing, we've just had 25 new songs and you are still demanding more!
:D You have a lot. You want even more:)
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GF:
We didn’t finish more than are released. There are more songs though.
Richard Bennett
October, 23, 2023
https://www.richard-bennett.com/notes-from-nashville/2023/10/25/autumn-update
(https://i.postimg.cc/3R8FYjCq/rb-30.jpg)
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https://www.forbes.com/sites/hughmcintyre/2024/04/28/mark-knopfler-lands-one-of-the-biggest-successes-of-his-solo-career/
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Finally arrived! Dolby Atmos Wow!
ODR in Dolby Atmos blow's one's mind doesn't it??!!
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Finally arrived! Dolby Atmos Wow!
ODR in Dolby Atmos blow's one's mind doesn't it??!!
Fabulous! total immersion :o ;)
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In this One deep river album, Mark is singing better and better. Especially in Mr Solomons said.
I would have loved Mark to sing A night in summer long ago (in my opinion vocally failed) with his current voice !
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As the fabulous Guitarist (https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=8701.0) feature is no longer on the shelves, you can find it as a PDF here:
https://fastupload.io/dKRF
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They have a digital shelf, too :)
https://pocketmags.com/ca/guitarist-magazine (https://pocketmags.com/ca/guitarist-magazine)
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Interview in Forbes:
https://www.forbes.com/sites/stevebaltin/2024/05/04/saturday-conversation-mark-knopfler-im-a-songwriter-first/
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I find funny how much he highlights that he's a songwriter than a guitar player or than anything else, I don't find that he's a better songwriter than the one who wrote Sultans, Tunnel, Telegraph or Brothers, very back in the day, actually I'd say that he's now just a songwriter as he's not that guitar player anymore, but everytime he says that seems that he's like waiting the Nobel Prize of Literature, like Dylan.
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I find funny how much he highlights that he's a songwriter than a guitar player or than anything else, I don't find that he's a better songwriter than the one who wrote Sultans, Tunnel, Telegraph or Brothers, very back in the day, actually I'd say that he's now just a songwriter as he's not that guitar player anymore, but everytime he says that seems that he's like waiting the Nobel Prize of Literature, like Dylan.
I agree and I've wondered the same. Why is he so obsessed about telling people that he's only a songwriter nowadays. I feel like that is something people sort of deduce by themselves, just by listening what kind of music he's been doing since 1996.
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I find funny how much he highlights that he's a songwriter than a guitar player or than anything else, I don't find that he's a better songwriter than the one who wrote Sultans, Tunnel, Telegraph or Brothers, very back in the day, actually I'd say that he's now just a songwriter as he's not that guitar player anymore, but everytime he says that seems that he's like waiting the Nobel Prize of Literature, like Dylan.
I think that there a prize that Mk pursuits is the Composers Hall Of Fame.
About the "songwriter first", I think that he is telling to himself that he is unable to play like he used to play and he is telling to the press that he dont practice anymore because COVID or age.
He is a terrific songwriter? Oh yes.
But his signature is the combination by his voice and guitar. His magic is between his lyrics, singing and playing.
Well, it's a gently way to say that he is with health issues.
Unfornunately, he is not aging fisically well.
Seeing his TV Show and watch Tom Jones (80yo) and Carlos (76yo), it is a pity to see MK aging the way he does. I will not talk about Eric (79yo) and John McLaughlin(82yo).
I am not complain.
ODR is very well sung and played. MK made a HUGE effort to deliver the album. And is great to see him promoting it (even when he tells the same stories)
It is a pity to see our favorite artist unable to deliver it that the way he used to.
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The Composers Hall of Fame would be nice of course, but it would mean he'd have to go there for the ceremony ;-)
But I think you're right: it's maybe his way of saying that the focus has shifted and that the guitar is no longer the main thing.
Actually I'm not sure that he is pursuing to get any prize, although he certainly seems to be enjoying the public recognition he is now getting. He didn't do such a lot of interviews for Tracker, did he?
Especially the music press in the U.K. somehow weren't taking him very seriously as an artist for a long time, maybe because of the "pop music" image of DS, so at least now he is finally acknowledged on the same level as Van Morrison, James Taylor etc.
As far as prizes go, he's already got the Ivor Novello Award, which is probably as good as it gets for a songwriter.
The Nobel Prize is probably not on the cards, because he is (and sees himself as) a songwriter, not a poet like Dylan. And I think for the Nobel Prize they will expect a writer to be more political and outspoken in their views.
But for MK, I think a knighthood for services to music (and to the world) might be a good idea - it's about time :)
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About the prize, I'm just kidding...
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About the prize, I'm just kidding...
Of course :)
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I'd like to finally listen to different MK album but all the time something is pulling me to One Deep River.
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Have to be honest - I haven't listen to the album for over a week now. Whether the EP has anything to do with it I don't know, but it's yesterdays news.
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Have to be honest - I haven't listen to the album for over a week now. Whether the EP has anything to do with it I don't know, but it's yesterdays news.
Did I understand correctly? Do you like the EP better? :)
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Have to be honest - I haven't listen to the album for over a week now. Whether the EP has anything to do with it I don't know, but it's yesterdays news.
Did I understand correctly? Do you like the EP better? :)
That's not what I meant - although it's an interesting comparison - it's really just that coming so soon after the album it's overshadowed it.
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Have to be honest - I haven't listen to the album for over a week now. Whether the EP has anything to do with it I don't know, but it's yesterdays news.
Where on the other hand there hasn't been a day gone by personally without the album, bonus tracks or EP being played! Even on the go now in our beach hut!
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Have to be honest - I haven't listen to the album for over a week now. Whether the EP has anything to do with it I don't know, but it's yesterdays news.
Where on the other hand there hasn't been a day gone by personally without the album, bonus tracks or EP played!
I have listened to both every day - the last time this afternoon in the garden in the sunshine. :)
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Yes still listening to the album and also the EP pretty much every day.
Not so much the bonus tracks.
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Why is he so obsessed about telling people that he's only a songwriter nowadays.
Because people, journalists in particular, keep overlooking that (maybe most significant) aspect of his talent. Everybody keeps calling him the "great guitarist". There's nothing wrong with that; he is and certainly was a fantastic guitarist. But it must be annoying if people keep reducing you to this when you're actually one of the best songwriters in the history of songwriting.
And about the Nobel Prize: I think it's generally questionable whether a songwriter will qualify for that award, but at least today, Mark is a much better lyricist than Dylan is. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Dylan fan (also of his late work), but in terms of lyrics, he's really just pasting together whatever he finds in the books he reads. That's okay when it works (and it often does), but hardly Nobel-Prize-worthy. Whereas Mark deserves his Ivor Novello award more than ever.
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'but in terms of lyrics, he's really just pasting together whatever he finds in the books he reads"
Really? I didn't know that.
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Why is he so obsessed about telling people that he's only a songwriter nowadays.
Because people, journalists in particular, keep overlooking that (maybe most significant) aspect of his talent. Everybody keeps calling him the "great guitarist". There's nothing wrong with that; he is and certainly was a fantastic guitarist. But it must be annoying if people keep reducing you to this when you're actually one of the best songwriters in the history of songwriting.
And about the Nobel Prize: I think it's generally questionable whether a songwriter will qualify for that award, but at least today, Mark is a much better lyricist than Dylan is. Don't get me wrong, I'm a huge Dylan fan (also of his late work), but in terms of lyrics, he's really just pasting together whatever he finds in the books he reads. That's okay when it works (and it often does), but hardly Nobel-Prize-worthy. Whereas Mark deserves his Ivor Novello award more than ever.
And an even more important question: why journalists don't ask about the meaning of songs?
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'but in terms of lyrics, he's really just pasting together whatever he finds in the books he reads"
Really? I didn't know that.
for example, first verse of TR is excatly first lines of the book
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'but in terms of lyrics, he's really just pasting together whatever he finds in the books he reads"
Really? I didn't know that.
for example, first verse of TR is excatly first lines of the book
But Rail King talks about Dylan ;)
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Yes still listening to the album and also the EP pretty much every day.
Not so much the bonus tracks.
I think all of the bonus tracks are really worth to listen to. No skippers for me.
Since 4 weeks I've been listening to Mark's new music every day.
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Yes still listening to the album and also the EP pretty much every day.
Not so much the bonus tracks.
I think all of the bonus tracks are really worth to listen to. No skippers for me.
Since 4 weeks I've been listening to Mark's new music every day.
Yep still listening to the 25 tracks each day with absolutely no skippers!
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'but in terms of lyrics, he's really just pasting together whatever he finds in the books he reads"
Really? I didn't know that.
for example, first verse of TR is excatly first lines of the book
But Rail King talks about Dylan ;)
ah yes you're right,I read too quickly :)