A Mark In Time

General Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Ian Lewis on November 24, 2018, 07:30:16 PM

Title: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: Ian Lewis on November 24, 2018, 07:30:16 PM
I was thinking last night as you do...  MK has said himself what if this is ‘the last big go around?’ We’ve been given an album full of songs and even a couple of songs looking back at the past. 

I don’t want to be depressing but could we be looking at the last MK major release with DTRW?  Interested to hear what other people think.

Personally MK seems enamoured with British Grove and seems more productive than ever so I’m sure he’ll produce more if he can.  But if DTRW was the last I certainly wouldn’t be disappointed.  What a wonderful career and collection of music he has given us


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Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: jbaent on November 24, 2018, 10:07:52 PM
I was thinking last night as you do...  MK has said himself what if this is ‘the last big go around?’ We’ve been given an album full of songs and even a couple of songs looking back at the past. 

I don’t want to be depressing but could we be looking at the last MK major release with DTRW?  Interested to hear what other people think.

Personally MK seems enamoured with British Grove and seems more productive than ever so I’m sure he’ll produce more if he can.  But if DTRW was the last I certainly wouldn’t be disappointed.  What a wonderful career and collection of music he has given us


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He means his last long tour.
Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: Knopflerfan on November 24, 2018, 10:27:23 PM
Yes indeed, I agree this will be MK's last huge tour but can see no reason why he would stop producing albums. I can see a few nights residency at say the RAH only in the future rather than tours as such...
Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: qjamesfloyd on November 25, 2018, 07:52:52 AM
I see it as being a good thing, because if he is not going to be touring anymore, if gives him more time to write and record, so we may get more albums with a smaller gap in between the releases.
Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: dmg on November 25, 2018, 12:13:27 PM
A smaller tour this time may have been recommended in fact.  I think, unsurprisingly, he gets quite tired sounding by the end these days.
Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: holaknopfler on November 25, 2018, 03:23:18 PM
A smaller tour this time may have been recommended in fact.  I think, unsurprisingly, he gets quite tired sounding by the end these days.

I can imagine it, they have quite a busy schedule. And he's not 30 anymore too. I wonder what it'll do to his guitarplaying, the smaller tours if they're ever going to happen.
Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: jbaent on November 25, 2018, 03:55:54 PM
In some interviews MK said that this year representation of Local Hero musical is going to be a small thing, but they are preparing something bigger for London, which will be summer 2020 so he might thought he's going to be busy to keep recording and touring in the future...
Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: dmg on November 25, 2018, 04:19:08 PM
A smaller tour this time may have been recommended in fact.  I think, unsurprisingly, he gets quite tired sounding by the end these days.

I can imagine it, they have quite a busy schedule. And he's not 30 anymore too. I wonder what it'll do to his guitarplaying, the smaller tours if they're ever going to happen.

Looking back years to older tours, even the DS days he used to take 2 or 3 day breaks between dates in different venues.  The Golden Heart style tour is an option in the future and perhaps one he should've adopted this time.
Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: ds1984 on November 25, 2018, 08:56:53 PM
Mark is Mark but Clapton many years ago, maybe 2001 or so announced more or less the same. Of course 2004 and 2006/7 were quite still heavy touring years but subsequent tours went lighter.  Now a world tour is almost less than 10 concerts...
Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: skydiver on November 26, 2018, 09:33:39 AM
Shorter tours in beautiful small intimate venues is an unrealistic dream with dreadful consequences.
This romantic sounding scenario is actually a pure nightmare for me:
Not everyone who wants to see Mark will be able to get a ticket.
And those who will get into those intimate venues will be paying a fortune.
It will be a feast for ticket scalpers. They can actually charge any price, people will pay it just to see MK in one of his rare shows.

We are not in 1996 anymore, where the brand "Mark Knopfler" was not known to world-wide concert goers.
Just have a look at how fast tickets are selling for this tour.
Just imagine the masses of a worlwide audience in a bloody struggle for tix for a RAH residency.
Start saving today!

Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: superval99 on November 26, 2018, 09:40:39 AM

We are not in 1996 anymore, where the brand "Mark Knopfler" was not known to world-wide concert goers.


Ahh, those were the days!   :D  I loved those smaller concerts on the GH tour and  Ronnie Scott's with just a couple of hundred people in the audience!    :)   
Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: skydiver on November 26, 2018, 09:45:19 AM

We are not in 1996 anymore, where the brand "Mark Knopfler" was not known to world-wide concert goers.


Ahh, those were the days!   :D  I loved those smaller concerts on the GH tour and  Ronnie Scott's with just a couple of hundred people in the audience!    :)   

Yes I think with fondness of those days, too.
But it would be selfish to wish those times back.
MK as a solo artist has a much bigger audience today than in those days and everyone should have a chance to see and hear him, not just a chosen few in a small intimate setting.
Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: superval99 on November 26, 2018, 10:10:38 AM

We are not in 1996 anymore, where the brand "Mark Knopfler" was not known to world-wide concert goers.


Ahh, those were the days!   :D  I loved those smaller concerts on the GH tour and  Ronnie Scott's with just a couple of hundred people in the audience!    :)   

Yes I think with fondness of those days, too.
But it would be selfish to wish those times back.
MK as a solo artist has a much bigger audience today than in those days and everyone should have a chance to see and hear him, not just a chosen few in a small intimate setting.

What is the solution, though.   Smaller venues, including the RAH, would create the scenario that you suggest and we would be extremely fortunate to see him as easily as we do now.   I don't see him doing huge arenas after this next tour, and he has hinted that could happen, so a residency at the RAH, as Clapton does, would seem to be the best option, but it would still be a struggle for fans to get tickets.    :think
Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: skydiver on November 26, 2018, 10:32:04 AM
What is the solution, though.   Smaller venues, including the RAH, would create the scenario that you suggest and we would be extremely fortunate to see him as easily as we do now.   I don't see him doing huge arenas after this next tour, and he has hinted that could happen, so a residency at the RAH, as Clapton does, would seem to be the best option, but it would still be a struggle for fans to get tickets.    :think

Of course I would love a set of intimate RAH shows, who wouldn't.
But since international concert travelling has increased substantially over the last decade  I expect a massive interest and loads of world-wide fans pouring into London (if MK's gigging will indeed be limited to London) for the "odd show" as he put it.
And given the high demand for low supply, we'll see many disappointed faces and very expensive ticket prices (and smiling scalpers).
He won't play 30+ shows if he feels that playing live takes so much energy out of him.
And this problem can't be solved (unless he returns to the O2). I just want to say that I believe the scenario of a few intimate shows won't be as romatic as one might think.
May this be prevented for a long time!


Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: superval99 on November 26, 2018, 11:04:17 AM
Maybe half-a-dozen arenas or so, here and there would work!   :)
Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: qjamesfloyd on November 26, 2018, 11:37:09 AM


Not sure why it is unrealistic. David Gilmour did just this on his last tour in 2016 playing some really lovely unique venues. I think it is a good way for someone of Mark's standing to tour these days.
Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: skydiver on November 26, 2018, 11:43:42 AM
David's 2015/2016 tour had a very ambitious international schedule which included South Amercia (Brazil, Argentina, Chile) and thus covered more continents than Mark's 2019 tour will do.
So this doesn't seem to me to be a realistic future scenario for Mark if he wants to substantially cut down on touring.
Of course I would love Mark to continue touring like David does!
Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: jbaent on November 26, 2018, 12:20:05 PM
Yes, there are many ways to do it...

Playing a one week residency at th RAH

Playing one or two shows in the biggest cities or the countries in which MK sells better, that won´t take more than a month

Playing two or three residencies of three days in some countries were he always had sold very good

Playing one month in venues like the RAH around Europe...

Many different ways to do it.
Title: Re: ‘The last big go around...’
Post by: skydiver on November 26, 2018, 12:25:46 PM
Maybe half-a-dozen arenas or so, here and there would work!   :)

Phil Collins' European tour last year could maybe be one of many possiblities.
He started out with 5 shows each in London, Cologne and Paris and added a few single ones later on (Dublin etc.).
Although Paris and Cologne sold out fast you could still get a ticket, because he played the biggest arenas there.
But for the RAH residency it was impossible. It was sold out the minute it went on sale. And the secondary market prices went mad.