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Title: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: allen on July 07, 2019, 07:02:49 AM
DTRW TOUR 2019 [C 48] UK/Europe leg 48
(https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?action=dlattach;topic=6793.0;attach=3372)

VENUE & LATEST TICKET INFO
Location:- http://www.tauronarenakrakow.pl/
Buy Tickets:- https://www.livenation.pl/show/1229910/mark-knopfler/krak%C3%B3w/2019-07-10/pl
Clock @ Weather: https://www.timeanddate.com/worldclock/poland/krakow

DIARIES
Guy Fletcher D.T.R.W. tour Diary: http://guyfletcher.co.uk/category/2019-european-tour-diary/
Richard Bennett Notes from the Road: https://www.richard-bennett.com/notes-from-the-road

A.M.I.T. HUB
Who’s going where?: https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=6400.0
Tickets : sale / exchange / wanted: https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?board=48.0
Pre-concert meetings: https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?board=49.0

PREVIOUS/NEXT MARK KNOPFLER Concert
Previous concert:- https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=7054.0
Next Concert:- https://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php?topic=7056.0

Buy USB’S of this concert:- https://store.markknopfler.com/down-the-road-wherever-live-2019?utm_source=website&utm_medium=landingpage&utm_campaign=04_25_19&utm_content=dtrw_liveconcerts
29 songs were played on the 2015 tour
22 songs yet played on this tour

SET LIST

01. Why Aye Man
02. Corned Beef City
03. Sailing to Philadelphia (with Danny as second voice !)
04. Once Upon A Time In The West
05. Romeo and Juliet
06. My Bacon Roll
07. Matchstick Man
08. Done With Bonaparte
09. Heart Full of Holes
10. Your Latest Trick
11. Postcards from Paraguay
12. On Every Street
13. Speedway at Nazareth

Encores
14. Money For Nothing
15. Piper to the End
16. Going Home
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: Robson on July 10, 2019, 08:43:21 PM
Why Aye Man
Corned Beef City
Sailing To Philadelphia
Once Upon A Time In The West
Romeo And Juliet
My Bacon Roll
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: koobaa on July 10, 2019, 09:01:30 PM
Have fun there tonight Rob!
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: Robson on July 10, 2019, 09:06:53 PM
Matchstick Man
Done With Bonaparte
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: Robson on July 10, 2019, 09:07:26 PM
Tnanks kooba:)
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: Robson on July 10, 2019, 09:25:35 PM
Heaet Full Of Holes
She's Gone/Your Latest Trick
Postcards From Paraguay
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: koobaa on July 10, 2019, 11:58:11 PM
From the good source...

Why Aye Man
Corned Beef City
Sailing to Philly
Once Upon A Time In The West
Romeo And Juliet
My Bacon Roll
Matchstick Man
Done With Bonaparte
Heart Full Of Holes
She's Gone / Your Latest Trick
Postcards From Paraguay
On Every Street
Speedway At Nazareth
Money For Nothing
Piper To The End
Going Home
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: Robson on July 11, 2019, 12:38:30 AM
Yes, that's right. Wonderful concert.
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: dmg on July 11, 2019, 12:44:48 PM
Yes, that's right. Wonderful concert.

Glad you enjoyed yourself.

Looks like there are going to be no changes whatsoever now. 

SB - not going down
SFA - that ain't workin'
BIA - why bother - he only has to back up the brassies in Piper
TR -  :lol

The fleeting appearance of SFA is a bit of a mystery.
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: vr46mk on July 11, 2019, 12:51:43 PM
They should play BIA in the US though...
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: dmg on July 11, 2019, 07:30:30 PM
He was at it again last night during WAM and again altered the lyrics to give some budding Geoffrey Unsworth a ticking off. 

He's got a ruddy great spotlight on him for 2 hours and that doesn't bother him so why start rudely pointing at his fans every show and spoil it for everyone?

I don't attend many concerts so don't know, but is this normal behaviour for artists at concerts these days?  I haven't experienced it before.  Personally I find it embarrassing.
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: Kris-b on July 11, 2019, 08:07:19 PM
Isn‘t it more embarrassing that people still use flashlights in his shows although they are not allowed to. And the stage lights don‘t blind the musicians but the flashlight in front of the stage do.
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: vr46mk on July 11, 2019, 09:02:19 PM
He was at it again last night during WAM and again altered the lyrics to give some budding Geoffrey Unsworth a ticking off. 

He's got a ruddy great spotlight on him for 2 hours and that doesn't bother him so why start rudely pointing at his fans every show and spoil it for everyone?

I don't attend many concerts so don't know, but is this normal behaviour for artists at concerts these days?  I haven't experienced it before.  Personally I find it embarrassing.

They should try to remove this from the recordings.. if they could remove Guy's MTV vocals in one version they should be able to remove Mark shouting to fans to turn off things... So far it's all in the mix.
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: dmg on July 11, 2019, 09:14:58 PM
He was at it again last night during WAM and again altered the lyrics to give some budding Geoffrey Unsworth a ticking off. 

He's got a ruddy great spotlight on him for 2 hours and that doesn't bother him so why start rudely pointing at his fans every show and spoil it for everyone?

I don't attend many concerts so don't know, but is this normal behaviour for artists at concerts these days?  I haven't experienced it before.  Personally I find it embarrassing.

They should try to remove this from the recordings.. if they could remove Guy's MTV vocals in one version they should be able to remove Mark shouting to fans to turn off things... So far it's all in the mix.

When he alters the lyrics or stops 'singing' to tick people off then they need to paste some from other shows.  That's not a true live recording of the show.  That isn't really the point anyway. 

@Kris-b:  I am not saying these people are right to do what they do and they should learn how to operate their camera properly without the focus assist light but it is the reaction of Mark that annoys me.  That one person does not disturb 10,000+ concertgoers, however his reaction does.
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: Kris-b on July 11, 2019, 09:24:05 PM
He was at it again last night during WAM and again altered the lyrics to give some budding Geoffrey Unsworth a ticking off. 

He's got a ruddy great spotlight on him for 2 hours and that doesn't bother him so why start rudely pointing at his fans every show and spoil it for everyone?

I don't attend many concerts so don't know, but is this normal behaviour for artists at concerts these days?  I haven't experienced it before.  Personally I find it embarrassing.

They should try to remove this from the recordings.. if they could remove Guy's MTV vocals in one version they should be able to remove Mark shouting to fans to turn off things... So far it's all in the mix.

When he alters the lyrics or stops 'singing' to tick people off then they need to paste some from other shows.  That's not a true live recording of the show.  That isn't really the point anyway. 

@Kris-b:  I am not saying these people are right to do what they do and they should learn how to operate their camera properly without the focus assist light but it is the reaction of Mark that annoys me.  That one person does not disturb 10,000+ concertgoers, however his reaction does.

I see what you mean, but if it happens every night and really disturbs Mark or his band, I can understand him too. And for myself I can say, I was more embarrased by the people using flashlights than by his reaction.
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: quizzaciously on July 11, 2019, 10:50:56 PM
I would prohibit taking phones on the shows, like it's prohibited to take water bottles on planes. If you bring one, no luck, throw it in the bin.

Smartphones really ruins the whole thing to me, more than coughing, beer, etc., it's like messaging in Facebook with your woman in bed.

So whatever Mark is doing to scold those bastards is OK with me since I hate it too with my whole heart. You can't just ignore this nonsense.
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: Marnix on July 11, 2019, 11:06:35 PM
Steve Lukather once warned somebody a couple of times who was front row the full show filminpg and at one point he stopped the show and took off the camera from that Guy.
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: qjamesfloyd on July 12, 2019, 07:56:11 AM
And don't forget what Roger Waters did in Montreal 6th July 1977 In light of that, Mark is not so bad. Anyway it's Mark's show, so if he has a policy about certain things, people should respect that.
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: Chase on July 12, 2019, 08:01:53 AM
Absolutely amazing concert. During PFP fans run towards front row. Before security reacted, a lot of people got their way closer to the stage. Shortly after that all people on the floor were standing. According to Guy's journal, he and other band members really appreciated that. However it didn't impress Mark enough, because there were no surprises. I was hoping for BiA or SFA, which I really wanted to hear.
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: Pottel on July 12, 2019, 09:43:29 AM
no one of us knows what it is like to stand there, on stage in front of a gazillion lights, mobile phones recording and idiots with flashes, so there may simply be an understandable cause to his reaction
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: dvschend on July 12, 2019, 11:46:50 AM
Mark's reaction ain't that bad, try this guy  ;D

https://youtu.be/uOXDbMne6Ek
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: Knut on July 12, 2019, 08:16:55 PM
It's 2019, people carry electronics everywhere. Mark is 70, not 270 years old, and surely there are more "up to date" people around him to explain that this battle is long lost. Most people who film are probably not aware of their lights being a problem, and a GENTLE REMINDER works alot better than calling for security or being grumpy and point fingers everywhere. Also from a show perspective, it is just embarrassing if an artist gets pissed off at this kind of behaviour to the point where they're visibly angry while on stage. If the guy is front row, why not approach him, make a funny face in his camera, and whisper "dude that flash makes it hard to focus on playing the songs, please turn it down".

If that doesn't help, sunglasses indoors?

Honestly, if I paid 100 Euros for a show and half of it was spoiled because of interruptions from nonsense like "oh noes, someone filmed on third row", I'd be done seeing that artist live. I pay for the performance, not grumpy noises from center stage, and non-vital security interactions.
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: Jarle on July 12, 2019, 10:37:58 PM
When the comedian Chris Rock had a show in Norway in 2017, in Oslo Spectrum, the same arena Mark played in this June, they used a system called Yondr, where every person in the audience had to lock there phones away in some sort of a bag, which they were unable to open inside of the venue. I bit of hassle, I suppose, but smart. I would gladly use one at a concert if it meant that everyone else in the audience would focus on the show too, and not see they´re favorite song through the screen (which is totally meaningless - now and forever...). Should I send it to Crockford?  ;D

https://www.overyondr.com/

https://youtu.be/I2A38Nxz8sc (https://youtu.be/I2A38Nxz8sc)
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: quizzaciously on July 12, 2019, 11:34:41 PM
When the comedian Chris Rock had a show in Norway in 2017, in Oslo Spectrum, the same arena Mark played in this June, they used a system called Yondr, where every person in the audience had to lock there phones away in some sort of a bag, which they were unable to open inside of the venue. I bit of hassle, I suppose, but smart. I would gladly use one at a concert if it meant that everyone else in the audience would focus on the show too, and not see they´re favorite song through the screen (which is totally meaningless - now and forever...). Should I send it to Crockford?  ;D

https://www.overyondr.com/

https://youtu.be/I2A38Nxz8sc (https://youtu.be/I2A38Nxz8sc)

This is ingenious... Besides, as the security checks every guest and often every guest are being checked for bracelets and stuff, why not use this brilliant yondr thing? Anyway, this is the future and I'm glad somebody make some steps against this smartphone plague which made live shows a mess.
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: Knut on July 13, 2019, 12:33:48 AM
...and then you have those who may have to check their phone for text messages etc. because of work reasons, or perhaps they have kids at home. Would you go to a show and be unreachable if something happened to your children?

But, why fight over it - apparently he's done touring now (on a large scale), so it doesn't matter.

My two cents: if you go to a show and someone holding a camera or a phone in a reasonable manner is a problem, you're not paying attention to what's going on on the stage.
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: hunter on July 13, 2019, 09:53:42 AM
My two cents: if you go to a show and someone holding a camera or a phone in a reasonable manner is a problem, you're not paying attention to what's going on on the stage.

No, no, no. You have paid a good amount of money to watch a favorite, world-class artist, and having a sea of people in front of you (most of us don't sit very close to the front) holding up bright, big screens just isn't OK. It's extremely distracting.
Title: Re: #48 DTRW TOUR - July 10 2019 - Tauron Arena Kraków, Kraków, Poland #SPOILER#
Post by: dmg on July 13, 2019, 12:02:17 PM

I've never been distracted by a phone/camera at any show.  On the other hand I have been distracted and missed parts of songs letting people in and out for drinks and the consequent pee breaks.

I also enjoy watching videos on You Tube from the shows.  It's like following the tour every step of the way.  Imagine we couldn't see him play except for the show we attended.  I am assuming everyone supporting Mark has never watched an audience video because if you have it's a bit hypocritical, isn't it?  :)