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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: holaknopfler on December 08, 2013, 09:59:16 PM

Title: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: holaknopfler on December 08, 2013, 09:59:16 PM
 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xALs54SgIik

Anyone seen this before? Just love this, the guitar is so great.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: Pottel on December 08, 2013, 10:37:53 PM
yep. not new. but still, nice to enjoy....and mark wearing  his alchemy tshirt...
what a great rythm section too.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: holaknopfler on December 08, 2013, 10:59:55 PM
yep. not new. but still, nice to enjoy....and mark wearing  his alchemy tshirt...
what a great rythm section too.
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Marks guitarplaying fits so good to bob his songs, the laid back, leave out notes playing is awesome indeed
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: JF on December 09, 2013, 05:38:23 PM
and mark wearing  his alchemy tshirt...

well it's not exactly the alchmey one, it's a "negative one", the alchemy one has black arrows on a white tshirt  ;)  :D

I was desperately seraching for views of the Fernandes strat in the bakground, but the video ends just when we could eventually see it  :smack :-[

yes Mark's licks are great, but Mick taylor's slide playing is great too  :thumbsup

I thinks that the song where the 2 styles blend  perfectly together is tell me (on bootlegs sessions, never ended up on the album) : clean fingerstyle by Mark, and gorgeous slide by Mick
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: Rkd on December 09, 2013, 08:29:17 PM
This is sooooo great! Thanks for sharing. Completed a circle for me today as I just returned from my local Apple store and while there "Like a Rolling Stone" came on the sound system. I commented on it to my very young clerk, saying she probably doesn't even know who BD is,  to which she replied that she certainly did know him as her dad went to high school with Bob in Hibbing, Mn. She said her dad told her that Hibbing did not treat Bob very kindly when he was there, thinking he would never make it in the music world - that he was just kind of a joke. Of course now, she continued, Hibbing is trying to make money off the BD name. Which then made me wonder whether any of us would recognize it when we are in the presence of potential greatness?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: Pottel on December 09, 2013, 11:13:40 PM
very good question.
even though, one would think, someone with the writing skills like Bob, or mark's playing skills, should be taken notice of, sooner or later, right?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: JF on December 10, 2013, 08:05:50 AM
Yes very difficult to answer.

Do we think that all these "known" artists are really great after they became "famous", "acclaimed" etc...or would have we think the same when they were unknown ?

I think that twn could answer us  :wave :

did he have the same feeling in the 60ies when seeing "new" artists at the time ? Has his feeling "changed" when they became more famous ?

Did he realise to go seeing "legends", or did this feeling came later ?

Was their potential greatness obvious a the time ?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: superval99 on December 10, 2013, 09:23:51 AM
Personally, I can only give my opinion of seeing the Beatles at many lunch-time and Saturday night shows at The Cavern, before they were famous.    They were obviously a very good band indeed, but so were many others at that time and I can honestly say that no-one was more surprised than my group of friends and myself when they became so famous.  Of course, there are always those who say, in retrospect, that they always knew they would make it big, but we never did!     They did have a special charisma, though!    :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: Fletch on December 10, 2013, 10:31:36 AM
How is Bob not singing into a dynamic microphone here? Is just one mic capturing the whole room for rehearsal purposes?
Brilliant film anyway, wonderful to see Mark grooving away with such joy, and Bob bubbling over with esoteric lyrics ! Such fun !
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: JF on December 10, 2013, 10:57:55 AM
How is Bob not singing into a dynamic microphone here? Is just one mic capturing the whole room for rehearsal purposes?

I don't understand your question.

the video is a playback over the studio version,right ? or did I miss something ? :hmm
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: Fletch on December 10, 2013, 11:15:20 AM
Oh maybe you're right, I thought this was a 'live' rehearsal outtake ?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: JF on December 10, 2013, 12:36:57 PM
No I don't think so.
it's the "official" video clip, like the one for license to kill (can't find it on YT but it exists)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: Ingo on December 28, 2013, 08:06:33 PM
How is Bob not singing into a dynamic microphone here? Is just one mic capturing the whole room for rehearsal purposes?

I don't understand your question.

the video is a playback over the studio version,right ? or did I miss something ? :hmm

Yes, a mimic playback (guitars not even plugged in) , but not the version of the song that was released. One of the alternative takes they recorded of each track.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: Pottel on December 29, 2013, 03:03:29 AM
Personally, I can only give my opinion of seeing the Beatles at many lunch-time and Saturday night shows at The Cavern, before they were famous.    They were obviously a very good band indeed, but so were many others at that time and I can honestly say that no-one was more surprised than my group of friends and myself when they became so famous.  Of course, there are always those who say, in retrospect, that they always knew they would make it big, but we never did!     They did have a special charisma, though!    :)
doesn't get any bigger then with that little band, doesn't it?
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: Lis on January 04, 2014, 03:36:08 AM
Personally, I can only give my opinion of seeing the Beatles at many lunch-time and Saturday night shows at The Cavern, before they were famous.    They were obviously a very good band indeed, but so were many others at that time and I can honestly say that no-one was more surprised than my group of friends and myself when they became so famous.  Of course, there are always those who say, in retrospect, that they always knew they would make it big, but we never did!     They did have a special charisma, though!    :)
Val... That is quite nice moment in time captured... So glad you got to experience it!!!  :D
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: vgonis on January 22, 2014, 12:39:59 AM
I thought that many bands would make it big, a decade ago,  by listening  to one of their records. But after 1-2 fine records, the rest was average and they vanished.  But you have to be consistent, producing many great records one after another with no gaps. It also helps to have good looks, be clever and reveal it in equal measures and most of all be lucky to get noticed.
MK played on the Aaron Neville cover of this song, issued on  CD single.   
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: holaknopfler on January 24, 2014, 03:02:00 PM
I thought that many bands would make it big, a decade ago,  by listening  to one of their records. But after 1-2 fine records, the rest was average and they vanished.  But you have to be consistent, producing many great records one after another with no gaps. It also helps to have good looks, be clever and reveal it in equal measures and most of all be lucky to get noticed.
MK played on the Aaron Neville cover of this song, issued on  CD single.

Agree with that. Not many people can do that.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 18, 2021, 09:16:21 AM
The video has re-surfaced again....

https://youtu.be/di6wU11_4Wg
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: quizzaciously on September 18, 2021, 11:32:39 AM
The video has re-surfaced again....

https://youtu.be/di6wU11_4Wg

Yeah, great stuff. The video was terribly lip-synced, but the song is great! And the slide reminds me of recent MK a lot.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: Knopflerfan on September 18, 2021, 12:24:39 PM
The video has re-surfaced again....

https://youtu.be/di6wU11_4Wg

Yeah, great stuff. The video was terribly lip-synced, but the song is great! And the slide reminds me of recent MK a lot.

Yes that's very true of the slide reminding us of the 'recent' MK...
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: quizzaciously on October 05, 2021, 09:48:51 AM
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HRrlFYg2QkI
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: Knopflerfan on October 05, 2021, 11:52:45 AM
Oooooh!!! :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 05, 2021, 12:01:06 PM
Kind of funny/weird that MK wears a DS t-shirt in a Dylan video.

Do many artists wear their own t-shirts?!
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: vgonis on October 05, 2021, 04:30:45 PM
Kind of funny/weird that MK wears a DS t-shirt in a Dylan video.

Do many artists wear their own t-shirts?!

Interesting observation. Maybe it is only a reference and a nod  to Brett Whiteley, apart from an indirect advertising of the upcoming (?)  Alchemy album. Although it is hard to tell when the Dylan video was shot, in order to place it chronologically.

https://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/media/downloads/files/Brett_Whiteley_notes.pdf
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 05, 2021, 04:49:08 PM
Kind of funny/weird that MK wears a DS t-shirt in a Dylan video.

Do many artists wear their own t-shirts?!

Interesting observation. Maybe it is only a reference and a nod  to Brett Whiteley, apart from an indirect advertising of the upcoming (?)  Alchemy album. Although it is hard to tell when the Dylan video was shot, in order to place it chronologically.

https://www.artgallery.nsw.gov.au/media/downloads/files/Brett_Whiteley_notes.pdf

It's not actually difficult to tell when it was shot if you look closely at the 1st second of the video. :)
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: vgonis on October 05, 2021, 10:00:11 PM
Missed that.   :smack  It was shot nearly 2 months prior the concert from which Alchemy was comprised of, so I guess Knopfler already had in mind to record the double live album, use the Whiteley artwork and name it Alchemy after it.  Unless we are looking at the most advance promoting ever (for those days at least), almost a year before the release, even months before the actual recording occurred.  What is even more striking is that Knopfler left the Dylan recording sessions as they were concluding, and Dylan went on to change so many things from this record - from mixes to removing tracks from the final tracklist,  that we lost another masterpiece, and we had to be content with  a mere excellent record.
Title: Re: Bob Dylan and Mark Knopfler - Don't fall apart on me tonight
Post by: dustyvalentino on October 05, 2021, 10:53:55 PM
Missed that.   :smack  It was shot nearly 2 months prior the concert from which Alchemy was comprised of, so I guess Knopfler already had in mind to record the double live album, use the Whiteley artwork and name it Alchemy after it.  Unless we are looking at the most advance promoting ever (for those days at least), almost a year before the release, even months before the actual recording occurred.  What is even more striking is that Knopfler left the Dylan recording sessions as they were concluding, and Dylan went on to change so many things from this record - from mixes to removing tracks from the final tracklist,  that we lost another masterpiece, and we had to be content with  a mere excellent record.
Yes, good point. I wonder if these were Brett tshirts rather than DS shirts? Do artists have T-shirts?!

(I actually have a Warhol tshirt but that’s a bit different).