A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: peterromer on January 11, 2010, 10:40:36 AM
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Hi
I just mentioned in another thread that DS once in 1992 in Denmark played "Singing In The Rain" (Gene Kelly) because of the heavy rain, or rather Mk himself in the break between the sessions, and then I thought - what have you experinced of NON DS/MK tracks played live at an either DS or MK concert ??
If "Ol
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Everyone will know this but the obvious one is waltzing matilda in sydney 86.
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Special guest appearances I guess, ie with Dylan, Raised Up Family with James Taylor and the like.
Of course there are little references too - Jim Cox playing stuff like "You Really Got Me" on his "rock" accordian, and MK himself used to hide little licks in Calling Elvis like On Broadway and Born Free.
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Dire Straits played "Nadine" (Chuck Berry) live between 1978-1979, also in a benefic show in 1989, and then with The Notting Hillbillies several times.
Also "Alone and Forsaken" and "Lost on the river" with Emmylou Harris in Nashville 2001, both Hank williams songs, that they also recorded together for a Hank Williams tribute record.
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Also Dire Straits (at least Alan Clark) played "Lili Marlene" in several 1980-1981 shows before Les Boys
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Right ;) these replys are very good in search for "new" material to download ;)
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Riders in the sky (tunnel of love)
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Riders in the sky (tunnel of love)
Stop in the name of love too.
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On some versions of "Calling Elvis", especially NHB - "On Broadway".
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Riders on the Storm in Tunnel of Love too among many, many other tunes. Also Tulips from Amsterdam in Leiden '85; the happy birthday tune in Manchester 09.12.85 for Jack Sonni; Cocaine when EC joined them at the Hammersmith Odeon in December '85; All Along The Watchtower, Leopard-Skin Pill-Box Hat, License To Kill and Knockin' On Heaven's Door in Melbourne 19.02.86; the German national anthem in Berlin '85 and Scotland the Brave in Edinburgh 31.12.85.
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Riders in the sky (tunnel of love)
Stop in the name of love too.
In which concert that happened?
In a Paris 1985 (the one in which Sting was a guest in MFN) they played the famous Can Can song
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Ah, I can't remember, in that little instrumental bit before the start. Just a little bit of the melody. MK is often so subtle about these things that you don't notice.
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Of course the Day Tripper riff on Industrial Disease too. :)
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Of course Bonnie, Bonnie Banks o' Loch Lomond before/during What It Is.
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"Stop in the Name of Love" was f.e. played at Wembley Arena in 1985, June 10th. Go to 2:15 and from there on you will hear it. But better listen to it completely! ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZsyEy1uJtg
LE
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Oh, boy, how I loooove the sound of that guitar.... :'(
LE
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"Stop in the Name of Love" was f.e. played at Wembley Arena in 1985, June 10th. Go to 2:15 and from there on you will hear it. But better listen to it completely! ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZsyEy1uJtg
LE
Yes! I didn't invent it! Thank you!
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You are welcome, Dusty!
I was very astonished when I found out some months ago that "Dogswede" (is he a forumer?) had put the complete available Wembley show onto YouTube. And in what great quality! I remember having an extremely bad video recording from only some parts of it and then watching it almost every day - it was nearly religious to me...
But to get back to the topic: There is the rehearsal at the Hammersmith back in 1988 for the Mandela concert available somewhere where they rehearsed TOL also, and I am quite sure that "stop in the name of love" was cited there, too!
LE
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He played "stop in the name of love" in nearly every version of ToL from the BIA tour just after the intro, before the lyrics started.
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I'd say that
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Don't let me be misunderstood in TOL.
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I'd say that
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did we mention the chuck berry covers in the 70ies? like Nadine?
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I'd say that
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I have a vague memory of Mark inserting some licks from other songs into Calling Elvis as well, anyone remembers?
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awesome, that lick you mean in TOL, i always assumed it was an integral part of the live performance, never ever thought about the "stop..." link to it, but now that i pay attention to it...
so obvious...
but yes, that was played this way in all of the BIA tour i would say..
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Pretty simple when you think about it.
Tunnel of Love
Stop in the name of Love.
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I have a vague memory of Mark inserting some licks from other songs into Calling Elvis as well, anyone remembers?
A line from the song "I Belong to Glasgow" was played during Calling Elvis in Glasgow 20.07.01.
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There is no doubt Mark meant to put Stop In The Name of Love in there, don't forget at the start he says "Its a song about being in love"!!
And what a performance :) I had to watch part 2, and it just gets better, We really should have a Blue-Ray release of those Wembley show's, but with Alchemy being released on Blue-Ray this year I doubt it will happen, but Mark was such a dynamic guitarist in that period, something I feel he has lost now, which is a great shame.
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In Why Aye Man, at the playout he plays part of the song Girl, You'll Be A Woman Soon most famous for younger folk from being part of the Pulp Fiction soundtrack.
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where, in every live performance??
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Well, I'm not sure if all those hidden tunes are really intentional or, as it was said before, are a matter of coincidence. I agree with TOL that it was full of musical references and MK intentionally played those licks from 60' but it is quite natural that different themes appear here and there during improvisations in live versions. We have to keep in mind that many licks will sound familiar or similar to something else but I doubt MK intends to play them as a reference to a particular song or theme. A lot of times it is subconcious and unintentional.
BTW, did you notice that live intro to Romeo And Juliet is the same "Stop In The Name Of Love" theme? Intentional or coincidence?
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where, in every live performance??
Yes. During the playout, after the lyrics. I watched the Madrid '09 showcase last night and it was played there too.
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Well, I'm not sure if all those hidden tunes are really intentional or, as it was said before, are a matter of coincidence. I agree with TOL that it was full of musical references and MK intentionally played those licks from 60' but it is quite natural that different themes appear here and there during improvisations in live versions. We have to keep in mind that many licks will sound familiar or similar to something else but I doubt MK intends to play them as a reference to a particular song or theme. A lot of times it is subconcious and unintentional.
BTW, did you notice that live intro to Romeo And Juliet is the same "Stop In The Name Of Love" theme? Intentional or coincidence?
Well, I'll disagree, I think it's intentional.
Thought of some others, Blaydon Races in Why Aye Man in 08 and of course Bonnie Banks of Loch Lomond in What It Is.
Or maybe that was just a coincidence too? ;)
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Bonnie Banks of Loch Lommond was intentional for sure because MK even was making direct references to Scotland when he introduced the song in concerts. Not sure about Blaydon Races - I can't hear it there but it's a Geordie anthem so you may be right ;).
But why on earth would he stick "Girl, you'll be a woman soon" into Why Aye Man? Coincidence ;).
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But why on earth would he stick "Girl, you'll be a woman soon" into Why Aye Man? Coincidence ;).
Blaydon Races was absolutely clear as day in Edinburgh and Newcastle if memory serves (at the start of the song).
I didn't spot Girl You'll Be a Woman Soon, but it could be a nod to Richard Bennett's former long-time employer Neil Diamond.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xXWG8vCa3mg
You can hear Blaydon Races on this one, again crystal clear as it doesn't really fit in with the song at all. :)
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Yeah, point taken, dusty :)
I still think we often try to hear too much. (re: "Girl, you'll be a woman soon" etc.) It's almost like saying that the bridge part of Brothers In Arms is a reference to "Bird Of Paradise" Is it? I think not. Again, coincidence ;).
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Yeah, point taken, dusty :)
I still think we often try to hear too much. (re: "Girl, you'll be a woman soon" etc.) It's almost like saying that the bridge part of Brothers In Arms is a reference to "Bird Of Paradise" Is it? I think not. Again, coincidence ;).
Ha ha, yes, I think Snowy White's publishers might have something to say about that one. :)
But some of them are so clear as to be unavoidable, Day Tripper on Industrial Disease for example.
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"Stop in the Name of Love" was f.e. played at Wembley Arena in 1985, June 10th. Go to 2:15 and from there on you will hear it. But better listen to it completely! ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZsyEy1uJtg
LE
I can't believe how obvious this is now that you mention it! Never noticed it before. I guess MK was trying to recreate the "scene" of the fairgrounds.
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But why on earth would he stick "Girl, you'll be a woman soon" into Why Aye Man? Coincidence ;).
Blaydon Races was absolutely clear as day in Edinburgh and Newcastle if memory serves (at the start of the song).
I didn't spot Girl You'll Be a Woman Soon, but it could be a nod to Richard Bennett's former long-time employer Neil Diamond.
i always noticed that part but never knew it was from another song, let alone that it was called "Blaydon Races"
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"Stop in the Name of Love" was f.e. played at Wembley Arena in 1985, June 10th. Go to 2:15 and from there on you will hear it. But better listen to it completely! ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZsyEy1uJtg
LE
I can't believe how obvious this is now that you mention it! Never noticed it before. I guess MK was trying to recreate the "scene" of the fairgrounds.
I got the feeling that MK was just having a few minutes reminiscing the good old days. After all the Carousel Waltz was meant to recreate the fairground setting - I would doubt that he would pre-empt that. But that is my opinion only.
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But why on earth would he stick "Girl, you'll be a woman soon" into Why Aye Man? Coincidence ;).
Blaydon Races was absolutely clear as day in Edinburgh and Newcastle if memory serves (at the start of the song).
I didn't spot Girl You'll Be a Woman Soon, but it could be a nod to Richard Bennett's former long-time employer Neil Diamond.
i always noticed that part but never knew it was from another song, let alone that it was called "Blaydon Races"
Pottel - a lot of the performers who appear at the Newcastle City Hall seem to try and fit the Blaydon Races tune somewhere into their act - it generally has the effect of winning the audience over and gets them roused. I am sure they play local tunes in most music halls throughout the world too. Though i might just add that for your information:-)
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Aye, Blaydon Races is a very well known Geordie song. A very dear friend on mine who was Geordie died recently and at a memorial concert for him we all sang Blaydon races at teh end. Wonderful. :)
Can somebody post a link to MK playing Girl You'll Be a Woman Soon?
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It seems that MK was a Barack Obama fan way back when as well & he even mentions him in Wild West End at 2.00 :P :P :P
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1k5shPetktQ&feature=PlayList&p=9FB85CD7F838E245&playnext=1&playnext_from=PL&index=115
Well he could have with a bit of poetic licence ::) ::) :o :o
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"Stop in the Name of Love" was f.e. played at Wembley Arena in 1985, June 10th. Go to 2:15 and from there on you will hear it. But better listen to it completely! ;)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_ZsyEy1uJtg
LE
It just makes you remember what a fantastic sound, atmosphere, crowd reaction and appropriateness this tour is for the 80's - the sound and amosphere sum up the 80s so well - just wish i could have been there to see - agree what others say...they were awesome back then....TOL SHOULD be resurected now - amazing tune....
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Ha, good one Waterline Man, never thought of that one before. :)
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Aye, Blaydon Races is a very well known Geordie song. A very dear friend on mine who was Geordie died recently and at a memorial concert for him we all sang Blaydon races at teh end. Wonderful. :)
Can somebody post a link to MK playing Girl You'll Be a Woman Soon?
Just for you Dusty, from about 7:14:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQTh0vH_acs
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Aye, Blaydon Races is a very well known Geordie song. A very dear friend on mine who was Geordie died recently and at a memorial concert for him we all sang Blaydon races at teh end. Wonderful. :)
Can somebody post a link to MK playing Girl You'll Be a Woman Soon?
Just for you Dusty, from about 7:14:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JQTh0vH_acs
Thanks. I do actually think that this one is probably a coincidence, as it's very close to the melodies at that part of Why Aye Man anyway, but no real way of being sure.
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This is like looking into a tea cup full of tea leaves. The longer you stare the more figures, faces, objects, places etc. you will see:-)
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During either Copenhagen -96 or -01 MK's playing some twiddly parts from "Wonderful Copenhagen"...
edit: in between and during the slow parts of Calling Elvis, that is...
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Was thinking, isn't Guy's part in Pyroman a rip off of Nutbush City Limits by Ike and Tina Turner?
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I didn't have time to read this thread, so don't know (yet) what was said, BUT Schmonka THANK YOU for posting this beautiful video. I saw it a while ago and I think this version of the song is one of the best! ..........BEAUTIFUL Mark ......UUhhhhh I mean song! :P ;D
Fieneke
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verona 11-09-1992
during money for nothing , before the final drum solo, you can hear the riff of billy jean!
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wow, gotta check that asap..
only in verona
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"Stop in the Name of Love" was f.e. played at Wembley Arena in 1985, June 10th. Go to 2:15 and from there on you will hear it. But better listen to it completely! ;)
LE
July 10th not June 10th
For a few second I hoped that a new gem had surfaced.
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Whilst listening to TOL from Barcelona 06.06.85 I noticed that MK played a little passage from Entrance of the Gladiators, but not during the introduction of the band, he embeds it into the final solo! Anyone else noticed this or know why? It's at the slow part in the build up and only for about eight seconds but it's definately there and I've never heard it in any other version. Quite funny! ;D
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Ah now, in Glasgow the other night he was playing something in the middle of one song that most definitely didn't fit 100% right and therefore I assumed it to be another song, just one I didn't recognise.
This is where I wish my recording hadn't failed. :(
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So the new intro of Donegan's Gone then? Played with bottleneck slide guitar? Has been discussed here recently, it is from a soundtrack which title I can't remember... Sounds very Ry Cooderian...
LE
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yeah, me thinks so too, even though it comes from a soundtrack, it is very "paris texas" influenced..
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:) "On Broadway" was played at 5:40 during Coyote at Budapest on the 4th July. Happy Independence day to all our US members!! :D He also plays another tune at 4:49, which I can't put a name to? Anyone?
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8uuHqqDQLhw
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He also plays another tune at 4:49, which I can't put a name to? Anyone?
The tune has several names see: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Streets_of_Cairo,_or_the_Poor_Little_Country_Maid (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Streets_of_Cairo,_or_the_Poor_Little_Country_Maid) or
http://www.shira.net/streets-of-cairo.htm (http://www.shira.net/streets-of-cairo.htm) for the story.
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So the new intro of Donegan's Gone then? Played with bottleneck slide guitar? Has been discussed here recently, it is from a soundtrack which title I can't remember... Sounds very Ry Cooderian...
LE
The tune is called "Dark Was The Night, Cold Was The Ground" by Blind Willie Johnson and was used as the theme for a PBS TV documentary called "Seeing in the dark", which was scored by Mark and Guy.
Interesting that you and Pottel should mention Ry Cooder, because he did use this tune in the soundtrack for "Paris, Texas".
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Was watching the famous Thank You Australia and New Zealand show the other night and MK appears to play a bit of the riff from "Love Grows (Where My Rosemary Goes)" by Edison Lighthouse at approx 6:25.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4rs9rCP_wpY