A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Simon on February 15, 2010, 09:02:11 PM
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There was an article on the news tonight about the recent Euro Lottery winners who won
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Yes, and it
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I thought MK is worth more than that. In the 100 millions or so. I read somewhere he's like # 20 something richest man in the UK. Maybe I'm wrong ! Anyway, whatever MK net worth is, his music has given us fans money for everything. Long live MK.
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There was an article in "Q" Magazine just after "Golden Heart" was released about the 100 richest rock stars and MK was #12 worth
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These things are base on The Sunday Times Rich List. Basically The Sunday Times gathers as much information as it can about an individual (known property, earnings as reported through their companies etc) and then... makes a figure up. These figures are entirely made up by journalists and as such aren't really worth talking about.
For what it's worth, since I started following these things in the mid-90s, MK is ALWAYS reported around the
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Being on that list seems to mean also, that he isn't rich enough to prompt a removal from this list. ;-)
British Grove Studios must have been a costly investment, but I'm sure that it will pay in the long-run - certainly in musical ways.
Anyway, I do honestly think that he fully deserves his wealth.
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I thought MK is worth more than that. In the 100 millions or so. I read somewhere he's like # 20 something richest man in the UK. Maybe I'm wrong ! Anyway, whatever MK net worth is, his music has given us fans money for everything. Long live MK.
Well the people that won
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These things are base on The Sunday Times Rich List. Basically The Sunday Times gathers as much information as it can about an individual (known property, earnings as reported through their companies etc) and then... makes a figure up. These figures are entirely made up by journalists and as such aren't really worth talking about.
For what it's worth, since I started following these things in the mid-90s, MK is ALWAYS reported around the
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According to the Sunday Times, he was placed at 924 overall richest in 2009 - up from 1118 and I have worked out, he is 24th in music!
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I'd imagine that a lot of people that are up to their necks in property have fallen way down that list from previous years :-[ :-[.
The best of luck to him & I hope that the fact that he can lead a more comfortable life means that he will be around longer for all of us to enjoy more of his music ;) ;)
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I suppose the majority of the rich have some or all of their assets in property and or stock and therefore when these fall so does all of their wealth so it probably doesn't affect their relative positions in the 'rich list'.
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considering the 120 million sold albums alone, and considering the average price for a cd/LP/MC, not counting the video's and dvd's, not considering the tours, i am pretty sure that he is worth more then that, and that is NOT considering his various properties (new york, Beaulie, Chelsea, british grove, i believethere was something in france as well,...etc..)
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considering the 120 million sold albums alone, and considering the average price for a cd/LP/MC, not counting the video's and dvd's, not considering the tours, i am pretty sure that he is worth more then that, and that is NOT considering his various properties (new york, Beaulie, Chelsea, british grove, i believethere was something in france as well,...etc..)
But he has had to survive for the last 33 years as well:-) He didn't just stash the cash and live on handouts.
The actual prices of merchandise do not have too much affect on the earnings of someone in this industry. It is the wholesale price that determines their 'take'. And it all depends on how 'canny' someone is when agreeing contracts. Young naive artists may get taken for a ride quite easily and end up with nothing but a signing on fee. While the wiser more astute ones will have a decent % of sales (again these are wholesale prices and not high street prices which are usually 4 or 5 times greater than the actual production costs).
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here the article in question, and John (!) was also included there, and a decent 34th place or something
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x293/Pottel1/19980800Q-Magazinethe100richestmark.jpg)
and
(http://i187.photobucket.com/albums/x293/Pottel1/19980800Q-Magazinethe100richestjohn.jpg)
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I wonder what Ron Wood was selling to earn
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So 12m for MK in 1993 after On Every Street album and tour! Now that are figures I could live with! The same article says 6,2m for John Illsley, so half of the sum, which seems realistic to me! Boy! That
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There was an article in "Q" Magazine just after "Golden Heart" was released about the 100 richest rock stars and MK was #12 worth
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So 12m for MK in 1993 after On Every Street album and tour! Now that are figures I could live with! The same article says 6,2m for John Illsley, so half of the sum, which seems realistic to me! Boy! That
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nowhere do they mention whether it is nett or gross.
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So 12m for MK in 1993 after On Every Street album and tour! Now that are figures I could live with! The same article says 6,2m for John Illsley, so half of the sum, which seems realistic to me! Boy! That
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nowhere do they mention whether it is nett or gross.
And there will be no receipts to prove just how exact it is anyway. It is all pure guesswork based on album sales vs prices and ticket sales vs prices minus costs. And then they multiply it by a decent factor before they come up with a sensational figure.
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I remember Jimmy Saville saying (and this was approx. 30 years ago) that he had no idea how much he was worth and that if he wanted to find out it would cost him approx. 30,000GBP in accountants fees. (That figure alone is worth approx. 250,000 - 300,000GBP at todays rates).
If someone doesn't know how much they are worth how the heck does some hack know how much someone else grossed from a single album/tour.
And of course the royalties didn't just stop after the year of release and I am sure MK is still receiving them to this day.
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little bit more info
http://business.timesonline.co.uk/tol/business/specials/rich_list/rich_list_2009/article6147302.ece
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And there will be no receipts to prove just how exact it is anyway. It is all pure guesswork based on album sales vs prices and ticket sales vs prices minus costs. And then they multiply it by a decent factor before they come up with a sensational figure.
Not quite, those figures will be taken from the results published at companies house. MK and I guess JI will have set themselves up as Limited companies for tax and liability purposes and the figures for the company have to be made public. As I said, MK and JI effectively bankrolled the OES album and tour so JI's return reflects his investment in both I assume.
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And there will be no receipts to prove just how exact it is anyway. It is all pure guesswork based on album sales vs prices and ticket sales vs prices minus costs. And then they multiply it by a decent factor before they come up with a sensational figure.
Not quite, those figures will be taken from the results published at companies house. MK and I guess JI will have set themselves up as Limited companies for tax and liability purposes and the figures for the company have to be made public. As I said, MK and JI effectively bankrolled the OES album and tour so JI's return reflects his investment in both I assume.
There was : Dire Straits Overseas, Ltd
Apparently the society is still running
http://bizzy.info/uk/companies/dire_straits_overseas_limited/co_no/01399705/
http://www.jordanwatch.co.uk/reports/details/01399705/direstraitsoverseaslimited.html
http://www.ukdata.com/company-listings/Di-93.html
While doing research I found a document about a dispute for the "direstraits.com" domain name.
http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2007/d2007-0778.html
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I think it will be safe to say that MK is probably worth more than
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And there will be no receipts to prove just how exact it is anyway. It is all pure guesswork based on album sales vs prices and ticket sales vs prices minus costs. And then they multiply it by a decent factor before they come up with a sensational figure.
Not quite, those figures will be taken from the results published at companies house. MK and I guess JI will have set themselves up as Limited companies for tax and liability purposes and the figures for the company have to be made public. As I said, MK and JI effectively bankrolled the OES album and tour so JI's return reflects his investment in both I assume.
There was : Dire Straits Overseas, Ltd
Apparently the society is still running
http://bizzy.info/uk/companies/dire_straits_overseas_limited/co_no/01399705/
http://www.jordanwatch.co.uk/reports/details/01399705/direstraitsoverseaslimited.html
http://www.ukdata.com/company-listings/Di-93.html
While doing research I found a document about a dispute for the "direstraits.com" domain name.
http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2007/d2007-0778.html
Odd that it took 11 years to realise there was a domain name registered in the name of direstraits.com. It certainly weakens their argument for claiming it. Like they weren't interested and now all of a sudden when the vinyls are coming out, 'wahay we might as well have it'. If they/he/it wanted that name then 1996 was the time to go for it - not 2007. I can't have any sympathy on this one. Dire straits is a phrase - 2 words - yes it means a lot to us but that is what it is in civvy street.
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There was : Dire Straits Overseas, Ltd
Apparently the society is still running
http://bizzy.info/uk/companies/dire_straits_overseas_limited/co_no/01399705/
http://www.jordanwatch.co.uk/reports/details/01399705/direstraitsoverseaslimited.html
http://www.ukdata.com/company-listings/Di-93.html
While doing research I found a document about a dispute for the "direstraits.com" domain name.
http://www.wipo.int/amc/en/domains/decisions/html/2007/d2007-0778.html
Great work!
"Serial cybersquatter", ha!
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The dispute is closed :
"For all the foregoing reasons, in accordance with paragraphs 4(i) of the Policy and 15 of the Rules, the Panel orders that the domain name, <direstraits.com>, be transferred to Complainant."
Check www.direstraits.com
Booh, we genuine Dire Straits fans, are parked again toward another site :disbelief
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Seems a bit silly to go to all that hassle to get the domain and then not even use it.
Seem to remember Tomas Molin having a fight with David Knopfler after setting up knopfler.net.
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direstraits.com leads you directly to marknopfler.com
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Seems a bit silly to go to all that hassle to get the domain and then not even use it.
Seem to remember Tomas Molin having a fight with David Knopfler after setting up knopfler.net.
They are using it in 3 ways.
1) They are redirecting us to the main site
2) They are protecting the name Dire Straits - if they let the person that had the domain loose he/she could cause problem if they decided to sell stuff etc. i.e. merchandise/CDs as the unsuspecting public would think it was a pukka site.
3) They are potentially 'parking' it themselves for the future.