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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: xxFordiexx on September 04, 2010, 09:05:23 AM

Title: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: xxFordiexx on September 04, 2010, 09:05:23 AM
Hi all,

Just came across this nice bit of info about a small tour celebrating the classic album BIA!

What I love is the fact that Chris Whitten is on drum duties :)

What do you think? http://www.theaec.net/EventDisplay.aspx?eid=1712

He. Is a another link http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IO2kRMQby_0&sns=em
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: Pottel on September 04, 2010, 10:12:21 AM
they really seem very into it.
and never knew Chris whitten was australian, at least he sounds like one.
by the way, anyone know why mark often would introduce Danny with the whole "aspiring drummer" story to then end with "and now he AM one"??
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: Love Expresso on September 04, 2010, 10:19:37 AM
Because after all those real master drummers like for example chad cromwell, he maybe has the feeling that we do not believe in a new drummer like
DC only because he is a nice chap and who has been well known as a percussionist over the years. I always preferred Chads drumming to be honest...
Even Chris Whitten had a very good style on the OES tour, much power, much energy and also very nice dry sound. But that is only my impression.

LE
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: ds1984 on September 04, 2010, 03:23:32 PM
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Chris_Whitten

Chris Whitten (born 26 March 1959) is a British session drummer who provided drums for the hit singles "What I Am" by Edie Brickell & New Bohemians, "World Shut your Mouth" by Julian Cope and "The Whole of the Moon" by The Waterboys. Two critically acclaimed projects in the 1990s were Paul McCartney's Flowers In The Dirt album and Dire Straits final world tour from 1991-1992 to accompany their last studio album, On Every Street.

Whitten unusually has used a Noble & Cooley drum kit which are radically designed drums. The toms and snare are single-ply, steam-bent shells which give them (especially the snare) a distinctive sound. He has also recorded with such varied musicians as Tom Jones, Johnny Cash, The Pretenders, ABC and The The.

Whitten has been an active participant and Honorary VIP Member of the Drummer Cafe community forum since 2003.


http://www.discogs.com/artist/Chris+Whitten


Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: Jules on September 05, 2010, 06:23:06 PM
When I read this topic I thought that in the end, a video documentary about how the BIA record was made already happened, a pitty to find that its not that  :(

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Classic_Albums
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 06, 2010, 11:50:38 AM
Kind of a wierd concept, you go along to hear BiA played by people that have no association to BiA at all, except the drummer who played on a subsequent tour? I think Phil Emmanuel is Tommy Emmanuel's brother isn't he?

Whatever happened to Chris Whitten anyway? Seems he was an in demand session drummer until OES then just disappeared.
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 06, 2010, 12:26:30 PM
Did a bit of cyber stalking on the web, seems he's quite active on various forums.

Here's one of his posts which is relevant when considering the other thread about the "Dire Straits Legends".

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/5688252-post1493.html
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 06, 2010, 12:32:44 PM
Also this, seems Chris gave up touring and now composes music for TV.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/5119824-post47.html
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: FenderBender on September 06, 2010, 02:07:31 PM
Weird concept indeed.

I wonder if the Aussies will go for it. Starved of any live MK as they have been for the past couple of tours.
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: ds1984 on September 06, 2010, 03:47:12 PM
Also this, seems Chris gave up touring and now composes music for TV.

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/5119824-post47.html

"Of course, someone like Mark Knopfler has earned millions for writing 'Money For Nothing', but I have no problem with that, as long as I receive some income from my compositions."


While reading this I just asked myself : could the MFN solo drum actualy being edited out of the OTN release because of credits/royalties claim for it?
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 06, 2010, 04:04:45 PM
Eh, no, that comment should be taken in the context of the wider thread about musicians being paid for compositions. Some people were saying that all music should be free, he's saying that a lot of people like him make a small living out of composing, even though a small few like MK make millions.
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 06, 2010, 05:31:55 PM
More of Chris' thoughts

http://www.drummercafe.com/forum/index.php/topic,18542.msg209154.html#msg209154
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: Love Expresso on September 06, 2010, 06:20:38 PM
Cool, thanks! Interesting. He seems to be a nice chap!

LE
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: ds1984 on September 06, 2010, 06:37:14 PM
He is so right about Macca turning a soundcheck into a real mini concert in front of a small audience*. AND during soundcheck you can hear much stuff that won't be played during the actual concert.

Whereas for Mark, even the "credited all access VIPs" are politely asked to got out of the room when time come to soundcheck.

Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: Pottel on September 06, 2010, 09:14:58 PM
Did a bit of cyber stalking on the web, seems he's quite active on various forums.

Here's one of his posts which is relevant when considering the other thread about the "Dire Straits Legends".

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/5688252-post1493.html
wasn't gearslutz also the website Chuck Ainlay was a member of?
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: Pottel on September 06, 2010, 09:26:20 PM
real interesting stuff he tells.
great insight. seems like a nice chap.
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: ustas on September 06, 2010, 11:20:58 PM
Did a bit of cyber stalking on the web, seems he's quite active on various forums.

Here's one of his posts which is relevant when considering the other thread about the "Dire Straits Legends".

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/5688252-post1493.html
wasn't gearslutz also the website Chuck Ainlay was a member of?

Yes, it is

http://www.gearslutz.com/board/chuck-ainlay-ed-cherney-frank-filipetti-george-massenburg-elliot-scheiner-al-schmitt/
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: xxFordiexx on September 07, 2010, 04:51:53 AM
Thanks for all those really interesting links Dusty, I really enjoyed reading through them :)
Chris does seem like a nice chap.... looks like we have Mark to blame for his hearing loss oops  ;)
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: Fletch on September 07, 2010, 10:00:18 AM
Might get a couple of tickets for Nov 11 in Syd!!!  :D
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 07, 2010, 10:21:02 AM
We should ask Chris to join us here, offer to set up a Chris Whitten sub-forum where fans can speak to him about his days with DS and the rest of his career.
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: schmonka on September 07, 2010, 01:14:33 PM
When i first read about this Oz concert i thought "Oh Dear.....this sounds like it could be pretty sad"

But nostalgia is clearly a big business - and i think they are right they will get a lot of people to attend these shows and after all it may apease some of the people who write in to Dr Fletch and want more than anything for DS to reform - hey - live and let live i say!
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 07, 2010, 01:21:17 PM
When i first read about this Oz concert i thought "Oh Dear.....this sounds like it could be pretty sad"

But nostalgia is clearly a big business - and i think they are right they will get a lot of people to attend these shows and after all it may apease some of the people who write in to Dr Fletch and want more than anything for DS to reform - hey - live and let live i say!

Agreed, I look at these things in the same way as tribute bands or muisicals like Mamma Mia or We Will Rock You, not my thing at all and kind of lame to be honest, but lots of people like it so fair play to them.
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: Rollergirl on September 07, 2010, 01:46:43 PM
I just saw we will rock you and although this is not what I consider "my thing" either, I was very pleasantly surprised and loved every minute of it.

So, yeah, why not? There is a market for this kind of things
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 07, 2010, 01:52:51 PM
I just saw we will rock you and although this is not what I consider "my thing" either, I was very pleasantly surprised and loved every minute of it.

So, yeah, why not? There is a market for this kind of things

Yeah, saw that on Facebook and was tginking of you when I typed it. :)

The problem I have with these things is that the songs are all about different things and they have to write a terribly contrived story to fit it all together. I took my mum to see Mamma Mia and while I love the Abba songs I thought the story was just total bollocks. The whole theatre was up and screaming though, so what do I know.
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: superval99 on September 07, 2010, 02:43:32 PM
It all seems toe-curlingly awful to me!   :disbelief   I would only want the real thing, or not at all.   ;)
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: ds1984 on September 07, 2010, 03:07:26 PM
I usualy don't like cover band that much either but seeing TAPFS* live was quite enjoyable, actualy their TGGITS rendition sounding even better than the one done by Floyd during the 80's and 90's.


* : acronym for The Australian Pink Floyd Show
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: Rollergirl on September 07, 2010, 03:18:16 PM
Yeah, saw that on Facebook and was tginking of you when I typed it. :)

The problem I have with these things is that the songs are all about different things and they have to write a terribly contrived story to fit it all together. I took my mum to see Mamma Mia and while I love the Abba songs I thought the story was just total bollocks. The whole theatre was up and screaming though, so what do I know.

aaaahhh sweet  ;D (I didn't think of you when I posted on FB.)
It
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: superval99 on September 07, 2010, 03:21:35 PM
Gig In The Sky?  ;D
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: Love Expresso on September 07, 2010, 03:41:28 PM

GREAT!!  ;D ;D :-*

LE
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: ds1984 on September 07, 2010, 03:46:39 PM
Gig In The Sky?  ;D

Yes The Great Gig In The Sky
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: Rollergirl on September 07, 2010, 03:50:07 PM
see? It wasn't difficult was it?

 ;D
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: Dutchessy on September 07, 2010, 03:50:23 PM
Yeah, saw that on Facebook and was tginking of you when I typed it. :)

The problem I have with these things is that the songs are all about different things and they have to write a terribly contrived story to fit it all together. I took my mum to see Mamma Mia and while I love the Abba songs I thought the story was just total bollocks. The whole theatre was up and screaming though, so what do I know.

aaaahhh sweet  ;D (I didn't think of you when I posted on FB.)
It
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: dustyvalentino on September 07, 2010, 03:52:42 PM
Yeah, saw that on Facebook and was tginking of you when I typed it. :)

The problem I have with these things is that the songs are all about different things and they have to write a terribly contrived story to fit it all together. I took my mum to see Mamma Mia and while I love the Abba songs I thought the story was just total bollocks. The whole theatre was up and screaming though, so what do I know.

aaaahhh sweet  ;D (I didn't think of you when I posted on FB.)
It
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: Simon on September 07, 2010, 06:47:09 PM
He is also writing a lot of very unoriginal story books too and making a healthy living out of it
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: Pottel on September 07, 2010, 10:34:42 PM
I usualy don't like cover band that much either but seeing TAPFS* live was quite enjoyable, actualy their TGGITS rendition sounding even better than the one done by Floyd during the 80's and 90's.


* : acronym for The Australian Pink Floyd Show
tggits must be my least favorite floyd song, and i like all of them, normally. .... ;-)
Title: Re: Classic Album Tour - Brothers in Arms
Post by: Rollergirl on September 09, 2010, 10:48:37 AM
He is also writing a lot of very unoriginal story books too and making a healthy living out of it

I have read  quite a few of his novels and while some are very unoriginal and quite similar to one another, there are 2 that are really good IMHO: High Society and Chart Throb. The first one tells the story of a PM who is passing a bill trying to make all drugs legal and the second is Pop Idol and all those crappy "talent" shows from the inside. Hillarious.

(and another thread which changed course. Love it!)