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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Dutchessy on January 13, 2011, 03:02:52 PM

Title: Guitar parts for 17 hills...
Post by: Dutchessy on January 13, 2011, 03:02:52 PM
I don't know if this is posted before... But it's quite cool!! :D A lot of MK licks! I remember that we were
saying about the fact that MK recorded 23 different takes for just 1 song... OMG, a pity that we can't
hear those takes...

Here it is ;)  :D

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=K1OBXlEC4_Q&feature=player_embedded
Title: Re: Guitar parts for 17 hills...
Post by: Love Expresso on January 13, 2011, 07:14:22 PM
Ha, ha,
Mark probably thought of playing one or two takes on a lazy afternoon and give this guy what he wanted in the fast way. He probably was astonished to
meet such a demanding guy who got him playing so much different takes. I wonder how they socialized... And how the atmosphere was...

However, I like every single take I could hear on this clip... I wish Mark would do some stuff on his own where this kind of guitar playing can be heard...  ::)

LE
Title: Re: Guitar parts for 17 hills...
Post by: vgonis on January 13, 2011, 07:52:15 PM
is it officially released, with MK parts in it? and if it is, is it any good?because that is what counts. Dolby was a wiz kid back in the 80ies, but i have lost track of him for many years.
Title: Re: Guitar parts for 17 hills...
Post by: superval99 on January 13, 2011, 08:02:26 PM
is it officially released, with MK parts in it? and if it is, is it any good?because that is what counts. Dolby was a wiz kid back in the 80ies, but i have lost track of him for many years.

Yes, it is officially released.  I downloaded the EP "Amerikana" from Thomas Dolby's site which has three tracks, one of which "17 Hills" is the only track featuring MK.    I like the whole EP, but "17 Hills" is my favourite track - I love it!   BTW If you look at the "No News is Good News" thread, you will find more about this track.    Also Terry Kilburn has posted some news on MK News about "17 Hills" which apparently, is on a CD called "A Map of the Floating City".    :)
Title: Re: Guitar parts for 17 hills...
Post by: vgonis on January 13, 2011, 10:05:18 PM
Thank you so much for your reply, i will seek it out, even though i much prefer the physical object as well. Hope it is released on CD as well.
Title: Re: Guitar parts for 17 hills...
Post by: Fletch on January 14, 2011, 07:55:01 AM
Great demo of how a comp track is put together. Of course it's tons easier in this day and age of pro tools click and drag. The computer age allows the artist to be much less rehearsed when it comes time to recording.
Title: Re: Guitar parts for 17 hills...
Post by: Banjo99uk on January 16, 2011, 12:58:34 AM
Well I think this is one of MK's best single collaborations to date.  It is full of MK licks and after watching the making of it sounds like Thomas Dolby knows a bit about MK. I dont think a member of this forum could have squeezed more out of MK if they tried.  Apart from demanding a solo from tunnel of love.
Title: Re: Guitar parts for 17 hills...
Post by: Dutchessy on February 19, 2011, 12:15:54 AM
Here it is! The full song on youtube! :D

 http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YjjfWPmQOmE
Title: Re: Guitar parts for 17 hills...
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 19, 2011, 08:47:41 AM
It's OK, but personally I feel like it's MK on autopilot. A lot of the licks sounded like ones he's played before in other songs.

I think when it's one of his own songs he puts more effort into constructing something new that he hasn't done before.
Title: Re: Guitar parts for 17 hills...
Post by: Dutchessy on February 19, 2011, 03:40:15 PM
Yes, could be... But I like these licks very much. It makes a song very powerfull
And you can see in the first youtube video that Mark has done a lot of effort, a very
large amount of different licks.
Title: Re: Guitar parts for 17 hills...
Post by: localhero1986 on February 20, 2011, 10:02:41 PM
Great demo of how a comp track is put together. Of course it's tons easier in this day and age of pro tools click and drag. The computer age allows the artist to be much less rehearsed when it comes time to recording.

Hmm, well, I wouldn't say it has anything to do with rehearsed or not. If you don't 'get the song', it simply doesn't work. No matter what stuff you record. But, of course it's much easier nowadays to try some new things and mix some parts. Recording an additional track is quite cheap. :)
Title: Re: Guitar parts for 17 hills...
Post by: Jackal on February 21, 2011, 04:24:29 AM
What kind of guitar do you think he used here? I'd guess a Les Paul with both pickups selected, or maybe the new Don Grosh with both pickups. Sounds a bit like Piper to the end?
Title: Re: Guitar parts for 17 hills...
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 21, 2011, 04:21:10 PM
Was definitely the Grosh, well spotted, confirmed in earlier comments by Dolby and also GF.
Title: Re: Guitar parts for 17 hills...
Post by: Jackal on February 21, 2011, 05:58:41 PM
I can't say I'm too crazy about that sound. Undistorted it works great for funky rhythm guitar or surf/twangy stuff, but as a distorted lead sound, I think it's too wimpy. Bridge-only would have been awesome though ...
Title: Re: Guitar parts for 17 hills...
Post by: dustyvalentino on February 21, 2011, 09:16:48 PM
Sounds great on Piper IMO.
Title: Re: Guitar parts for 17 hills...
Post by: Jackal on February 21, 2011, 09:30:34 PM
Maybe I'm just not so used to it. I'm a Strat man, but last year I rewired the thing to get the neck plus bridge combination. I use that combination only rarely, and then clean with tremolo (Twin Peaks stuff). Just don't feel it works that well with distortion because of the twanginess. But maybe it's just an acquired taste.