A Mark In Time
General Discussion => General Discussion => Topic started by: Jackal on April 13, 2011, 09:54:27 PM
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Thought I'd start a thread where we could write about great musicians, artists, bands, etc. that are well-kept secrets because they never became famous. The music and musicianship may nonetheless be great, and we all probably know about someone that others don't know about. It would be great if you could provide some info plus maybe a link to YouTube or Grooveshark.
I'll start out with a guy I just discovered:
- Jack Pearson
- Singer/guitarist/session musician, previous member of the Allman Brothers Band
- Blues/rock/jazz
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=osd0-7CJJsQ&feature=related
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The Proclaimers! :lol
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The Proclaimers! :lol
Forrest Gumps favourite band ;D
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what would you rate as unknown?
i mean, would you accept "heavily underrated" as well?
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Could be, I guess, but rather people who don't make the charts, are not celebrities. Dig into the closets of obscurity, Pottel :) Artists that are not known to the general public and casual, mainstream-music listeners. I guess that's what I'm after.
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JimGphBSNGc
song starts at 1:13
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song starts at 1:13
Cool. The artist is The Riders :)
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Yes, I like the Riders. Mixed by Guy too! :)
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Here's a female singer that I absolutely adore, Annie Sellick. She's more into jazz, but she's the most charming performer ever.
This is a clip with her, her husband, who is the excellent guitarist Pat Bergeson (another unknown great), and Tommy Emmanuel. Tommy of course steps well into the spotlight hehe
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uMQNlHlmKME&feature=related
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Yes, I like the Riders. Mixed by Guy too! :)
I absolutely adore them. Their 1st album (not mixed by Guy) is even better IMO. Can't wait for the next one!
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Ok, one more. This is a clip of two Norwegian guys, J
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Here's another fantastic player I just discovered, Tim Lerch. Tone heaven.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=szLUwkmX2BM&feature=related
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http://youtu.be/NxZV05X5rEQ
Smell of incense - Alice
A nice band from Norway, with psych elements. Pottel they have even done a nice Interstellar overdrive version. Unfortunately haven't found the song I originally wanted, but this will do. Still active, have issued 2-3 albums and several EPs.(maybe more...)
http://youtu.be/PC0J2hHbGEk
The for carnation - Tales from the Crypt
A fantastic side project with members from Tortoise (if I remember correctly). Atmospheric, bass driven, and metronomically played. They have issued one proper album and by popular demand re-released another previous flop one, with older recordings. The album from which this song comes is great!
Unfortunately none of these two songs have a proper video, or a live recording... Hope you like them!
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Nice to hear, VGONIS, but it's outside my area of taste :)
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I think I just fell in love with Annie Sellick, what a beautiful woman.
Tommy showing his virtuosity again, but he really could benefit loads by a slow build when he solos - TOL or TR style - Tommy just goes for all the tricks straight away, amazing to watch though.
Nice thread Jackal, about to check the other vids...
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and of course, there's Rayland Baxter, who I have just fallen madly in love with after Richard Bennett posted this song on Facebook (his son plays guitar on this track)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5qVmGMrHQu8
He has no CD out (yet?) but a EP which can be downloaded here.
http://www.mediafire.com/?s07e2ahj7xoy0bg
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I think I just fell in love with Annie Sellick, what a beautiful woman.
Tommy showing his virtuosity again, but he really could benefit loads by a slow build when he solos - TOL or TR style - Tommy just goes for all the tricks straight away, amazing to watch though.
Nice thread Jackal, about to check the other vids...
Yeah, she's fantastic.
As for Tommy, a modicum of moderation at times would certainly make his music (even) more interesting in terms of listening. The razzmatazz does wear off eventually.
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Another guy I really like, except the blonde hair ;D . Amazing player.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xauiehPhGm4&feature=related
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Check out this vocalist. Amazing. Spotted her first on a YouTube clip with Springsteen guitarist Nils Lofgren. Lots of long clips on this page:
http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/maredmond3dd (http://www.cdbaby.com/cd/maredmond3dd)
http://www.marb.com/ (http://www.marb.com/)
Mary Ann Redmond
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=z9ud9hzt3u4&feature=related
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Jackal, where do you find these names/peeps?
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Jackal, where do you find these names/peeps?
Basically by always wondering who this and that person might be. And by YT's suggestions :)
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I don't know the definition of "unknown" or "great" either but, nevertheless, this thread is a good idea. I shall do my very best to find time to listen to and/or watch as many of the recommendations as pI can fit in.
What about a few old stagers? Or some off-the-wall characters? Or some simply unusual material?
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TWM, Everything is relative, but I started the thread to draw attention to musicians and artists who are skilled and talented, but not famous or well known. I'd say the artists presented so far in this thread give a good indication of what I was thinking about (i.e. Claptons, Dylans, Knopflers).
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http://youtu.be/1gsQXvZzNNY
You probably know Jo Ann Kelly. She is fantastic!
http://youtu.be/y-BIKjypNsE
And another great, Karen Dalton!
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I had this memory of seeing Jo-Ann Kelly once but couldn't place it, so I dug out a few old pocket diaries and found the date. It was on 30 March 1967 at the Gaslight Folk Club - not the one in Greenwich Village but one that was held in a pub on Highgate Hill in London. I'm pretty certain the pub was called Ye Old Crown but, when I looked that up on-line, it wasn't at all like my memory of the place. In fact, googling around, my memory is more of the Duke's Head further up the hill. I went to both so I've probably conflated the two places in my mind.
Anyway, the Gaslight Folk Club was set up by Bruce May, who I knew from college, for his brother, who was Ralph May and in the proces of becoming Ralph McTell, in honour of Blind Willie ditto. I was member 007 of the club, which I think was some kind of joke. Cliff Aungier was also on that night. He was a good singer, a good South London friend of both Mays and had a contract with Decca.
It's fun looking through old diaries. The previous week (possibly the opening night of the club), there was Ralph May/McTell, Cliff Aungier, Roy Harper and Ron Geesin. Also Henry (Bartlett?) who had run a sort-of jug band that Ralph had been a member of along with Jaqui McShee who went on to join Pentangle. I had only seen Roy Harper once before that, the previous Sunday at the Enterprise Folk Club opposite Chalk Farm tube station. The principal singer that night was Nigel Denver (a Scottish singer with a powerful voice, left-wing views and a big acapacity for the booze - he also had a contract with Decca and I'd once booked him for the college folk club and we'd met several times over the months). Roy Harper, as they say, sang from the floor. I'd not heard of him before and he had apparently just returned from Denmark. He probably did only three songs but I only remember the one where he sang into the hole in the guitar's soundbox so that the strings, untouched by his fingers, resonated in an eerie way - I think the song was about a night in a graveyard.
The week after I saw Jo-Ann Kelly at the Galsight, I saw John Renbourne there and he was joined by Jacqui (McShee) but Roy Harper also turned upthat night. A few days later, I was at the Saturday all-nighter at Les Cousins in Soho for The Young Tradition (these three lived in the same North London house, different flat, as Bert Jansch and John Renbourne at the time). Al Stewart also performed that night and, lo and behold, Roy Harper turned up again. He was probably trying to get himself known enough by club organisers to get (paid) bookings in his own right. It must have worked because, less than three weeks later, he was back at the Gaslight as the headline singer and I saw him once again.
And I can't resist saying that, the very next night (12 May 1967), I was at the Queen Elizabeth Hall on the South Bank for "Games For May", Pink Floyd's first major London gig, I think. I may even still have my ticket somewhere.
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omg ,....games for may is legendary shit...
ticket?? pls bring it on (as in scan somehow)
also, roy harper has a strong floys connection of course..
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Yes, I have found my ticket - it calls them The Pink Floyd.
As I left the venue, in one of the public areas, they had several piles of handbills for their various concerts, including "Games For May" that I was just leaving. I gathered up a whole selection, most of which I used to decorate the walls of my flat. However, quite a few years ago, I found a few "Games For May" ones that I hadn't used, maybe 5 or 6 in total. This was either before or in the early years of home computers, so I ended up selling them, as a batch, to a Pink Floyd trader. I can't remember how much I got but it financed Bob Dylan collecting for quite a while. I was wise enough to make colour photocopies, so I could scan one of those, if you wish.
I wasn't a big fan of early Floyd but liked them enough to go see them when they played near me.
12 December 1966: The Roundhouse at Chalk Farm was close to my flat, so I went to this:
http://www.angelfire.com/wv/breastmilky/enealiansmith.html
In my diary, I wrote "Roundhouse happening - P.T.O." on the Saturday and, having turned the page, wrote "Psychodelphia v. Ian Smith" on the Sunday, as I arrived late and it went on well past midnight.
8 April 1967: Roundhouse, Chalk Farm, "Pink Floyd, The Flies, etc" says my diary
Added in later
12 May 1967: "Games For May" at Queen Elizabeth Hall (as mentioed already)
3 May 1968: Westfield College dance. This was fairly near where Janet stayed and we had a meal at her place and walked along to the college. We knew some people who were studying there and I can recall one or two people free-form dancing all round the hall in one of Floyd's musical "interludes".
That's three but I think I've missed one - Roundhouse - Floyd and The Flies - maybe a false memory
Modified: Not a false memory, found it and inserted it in the above listing
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I've amended my previous posting to add in the fourth of those four early shows. I have never seen Pink Floyd live since then.
However, on 14 December 1967, we did go to see "Tonight Let's All Make Love In London", which was shown with "Dutchman". The latter was good and I subsequently bought the play script.
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Since knowing nothing about The Flies, despite having seen them , I decided to do a search and found this:-
Biography
by Richie Unterberger
The minor British band the Flies are most well-known for a couple of things, neither of which entirely prepares listeners for the pretty average brand of pop-psychedelia on most of their recordings. One is their debut single, "(I'm Not Your) Stepping Stone," issued at the end of 1966, which is a hard rock treatment of a number more associated with the Monkees, but with plenty of crunching fuzz guitar. It wasn't a hit, but it did start to get the Flies a reputation among psychedelic collectors after being included in the very first compilation of rare British psychedelia, Chocolate Soup for Diabetics. The other thing they're notorious for are their sometimes outrageous live performances, particularly their appearance at the 14-Hour Technicolour Dream psychedelic festival in April 1967 in London, where they arranged to have hundreds of bags of flour explode and cover the audience at the end of their set.
The Flies grew out of an East London band called the Rebs, and in 1965 they recorded a British Invasion exploitation album under the name of the In-Sect, all but one of the songs on the LP being covers of contemporary hits. By the end of 1966 they were signed to Decca and were recording as the Flies, though they issued only a couple of singles for the label. Arguably, their version of "(I'm Not Your) Stepping Stone" is overrated, and not particularly psychedelic, What's more, it wasn't too typical of their output, which on the Decca singles, at least, was filled out by unmemorable pop and pop-psych numbers with prominent vocal harmonies, in the manner of many other fair but unremarkable British groups recording non-hit discs at the time.
The Flies did manage to put out one more single on RCA in 1968, another middling piece of pop-psych titled "The Magic Train." Some unissued demos from the time show the band moving toward a more organ-based, ethereal sound, but the group disbanded at the end of that year. Members surfaced in the subsequent obscure British psychedelic/progressive groups Infinity, Please, Bulldog Breed, and T2. In addition, while still in the Flies, singer Robin Hunt recorded a very British, fey pop/rock-psychedelic 1967 single for CBS under the pseudonym Alexander Bell, "Alexander Bell Believes"/"A Hymn...With Love." All six sides of the three Flies singles, as well as both sides of the Alexander Bell 45, various 1965-68 demos, and cuts from the In-Sect album, were reissued on the CD Complete Collection 1965-1968.
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Does John Stewart count as an "unknown great"? He has a wiki entry, so may not count, but his is a name not known to many.
He started in The Cumberland Three, then joined The Kingston Trio (when one of the original members left) and, after, went solo. He wrote "Daydream Believer" (a hit for The Monkees) but his range of writing is much wider than this suggests.
Someone recommended me to give his "California Bloodlines" album a listen and, around about that time, tracks from "The Lonesome Picker Rides Again" were played occasionally on the radio. Both these albums always give me pleasure whenever I put them on. I haven't bought all his output, by a long chalk, but I have seen him live a few times - even had my photo taken with him when he did an "in-store" at Tower Records somewhere towards the Upper East Side in Manhattan.
If you see either of those two albums going at a reasonable price, dip your hand in your pocket and give them a try.
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Wizz Jones! See "Bruce Springsteen" thread, Reply #39, second paragraph.
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Wizz Jones more recently; white haired and no longer bearded:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YDvd-cuKUOM&feature=related
A nice gentle lullaby.
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Maybe he is not so unknown, but surely great and undervalued. Pottel, I guess you know him, he is playing with Gilmour on the whole album and most of the songs are co-written!
http://youtu.be/xfXP_dyvL5
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Until recently, Rodriguez qualified for this category. Outstanding talent in his day.
http://youtu.be/hVdWXqtk484
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Maybe he is not so unknown, but surely great and undervalued. Pottel, I guess you know him, he is playing with Gilmour on the whole album and most of the songs are co-written!
http://youtu.be/xfXP_dyvL5
no clue as again the video is "not available for my country..."
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It was a Roy Harper video from his fantastic album "The unknown soldier" who mostly co-wrote with Gilmour who also contributed on guitar. Have you seen this?
http://youtu.be/GKB63Z7CbOM
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Of course! Remember that and the gdansk concert movies are exactly what I have been hoping for from mark. And echoes is like my all time favorite Floyd song, hearing the acoustic version of it was like the second coming...
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well, those who remember me from the red pages would probably have guessed who I pitch in a voice for now: Show of Hands, the "arguably best active folk duo in the world" (quote not from me). Look them up on YouTube; for hardcore folkies, I'd recommend the Blue Cockade or Cousin Jack. Steve Knightley is certainly something different in the league of top notch singer/songwriters, and his pairing with Phil Beer makes it all the more astounding. Currently my favorite listening alongside Mark.
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well, those who remember me from the red pages would probably have guessed who I pitch in a voice for now: Show of Hands, the "arguably best active folk duo in the world" (quote not from me). Look them up on YouTube; for hardcore folkies, I'd recommend the Blue Cockade or Cousin Jack. Steve Knightley is certainly something different in the league of top notch singer/songwriters, and his pairing with Phil Beer makes it all the more astounding. Currently my favorite listening alongside Mark.
does this rock your boat as well? i love em...
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mWEuQboKyZo&feature=BFa&list=AL94UKMTqg-9CvKbB_7Q8AWOZKTNXm3BSv
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I saw Show of Hands live a few years back and I was impressed enough to buy a couple of CDs - "WITNESS" and "as you were" (the latter is a live double-CD for their Autumn 2004 tour). The pair were accompanied by a female string bass player.
Live, they toss in some songs not written by Steve Knightley (Little Feat, Dylan etc) and the occasional traditional song arranged by Knightley.
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I was going through my records and stumbled upon an LP by a band called December's children. Nice sounding band, but since this was their only release ( I have the re-issue) they never made it to the other bank of fame river, and stayed a somewhat cult psych band. Now that it is easy to find details, through the internet, I came across this page. It is peculiar, but I just thought that many hopeful bands and musicians have a similar future and only few make it big. Imagine our MK not making it with the first DS album...
http://www.buckeyebeat.com/decchildcl.html
http://prognotfrog.blogspot.gr/2007/09/decembers-children-decembers-children.html
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These guys always struck me as unknown greats:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N5QYijFfOaQ
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Dan, what a great find! Thanks! The last solo was ska, metal, punk, prog, nutty and nice! I am going to listen to some more!
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Dan, what a great find! Thanks! The last solo was ska, metal, punk, prog, nutty and nice! I am going to listen to some more!
Cool, glad someone enjoyed it. :)
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More then one. Liked the echo on his voice. Liked the guitar bits, like the amateurish behavior.name?
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These two just not getting the attention they deserve. Known but unknown.
http://youtu.be/92Rl0re5Mu4
Mazzy star on a Green on Red song.
http://youtu.be/Wt6IpDO9Q9g
Raveonettes-Dead sound
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Today I saw the film "Radio on", from 1980. A wonderful film in the vein of Wenders (actually he produces the film and the film itself has many references to the "Alice in the cities" Wenders film). Fantastic photography, and wonderful soundtrack.
This is famous but I was reminded of it when he plyed it in the jukebox (a wink to Wenders' scene with the jukebox but Wenders had Canned heat's "On the roaad again" http://youtu.be/QexOuH8GS-Y )
So Wreckless Eric - Whole wide world
http://youtu.be/cUFL8WSxTgY
And a more recent live!
http://youtu.be/jYDFOBTjuuw
A must see film, with a guest appearence by a young, guitar playing-just for the movie, musician by the name Gordon Sumner, performing an Eddie Cohran song - "Three steps to heaven" :) ;)
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Idon'tknow if anybody follows this anymore,seemsI only get to suggest thing,but it doesn'tmatter! ;)
Here is a track from one of my all time favourite instrumental albums ANGLES by the band ARCA. It is a French band, (some say post rock,I prefer the sound scape description) that Sylvain Chauveau leads.
This is one of the tracks.
http://youtu.be/tjV6Y3L8qLQ
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http://youtu.be/rwmfWzCxBUE
Great psychedelic rock song, by the Common People, re-released 3-4 years ago and available again! Great sound!
http://youtu.be/2NcdjLUD9Hs
And here is the full album of one of the greatest Psychedelic albums of all times by Gandalf (as Hobit is released today, I kind of remember them)
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not sure who that guitar player is that manu chao has in his band, but he so spices up the music, the man is great!!
whatch in the beginning, and then there'S the outro brilliant guy. always used t obe a huge Mano negra fan, back in the late eighties early nineties, but far prefer Manu chao solo.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1tP1umpp4M4
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and here a far better quality show
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-wWoofPkEc
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could his name be "Madjid Fahem"??
the man is a genius player...
boy oh boy, around the 3 min mark...
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love it, did i mention that?
secnd part of the vid...sweet...
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I like Manu Chao a lot. His 2-3 solo albums were more like the theme of Athens life when they were released. Mano Negra had a solid following but nothing as big!
Very Versatile guitarist, indeed. Almost bouzouki sounding, and some eastern scales thrown in for good measure!
Here is another great unknown, kevin Coyne. On the second track, a certain Andy Summers is on guitar.
http://youtu.be/rL4S8yoOoAY
http://youtu.be/_PYpuwOO0gs
http://youtu.be/uxhjVZA_2Xg
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kevin cyne is not really unknown now is he?
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Maybe not to you or me, ;) and speaking in general, but his best albums were hard to find and even his re-releases are not easy to trace or best sellers. So probably he is less known than some of the people I have already mentioned here!
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Hi friends,
unfortunately alot of the videos aren`t "available in my country" :( .
Last autumn I saw Luka Bloom in Kiel. It was a great show. A quite small venue, an audience of 250 people maybe. But it was fantastic. This video wasn`t recorded in Kiel, but the song is one of my favourites:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d6gGLClgmZU
Hope you like it....Mona
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Saw luka 200 yrs ago, was great then.
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http://youtu.be/77TaEHHvhq4
The great Steve Miro! Great music. Also check his band other band, Spherical objects.
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manu chao, great artist, great band, brilliant guitar player
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=J1FSpzFEfwM
guitar at 10:25
guitar at 15:56
guitar at 42:47
guitar at 50:50
guitar at 53:30
guitar at 54:15
and so on, and so on...this guy is great...
would soooooooo love to see him live one day...
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You have already mentioned him! Yes he is good, and he was good with his previous band Mano Negra. How about Arca? http://youtu.be/XccqQVVdlN0
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could his name be "Madjid Fahem"??
the man is a genius player...
boy oh boy, around the 3 min mark...
yes, you are right ... it's Madjid Fahem ... he plays really brilliant. Here is a quote from Manu Chao: "... ich brauche mich gar nicht mit Madjid Fahem aus meiner Band zu vergleichen. Er ist ein Monster, einer der besten Gitarristen der Welt ..."
http://www.manuchao.net/new/manu-chao-et-madjid-fahem-bilbo-22-11-2014/
perhaps he will be on tour 2015 ??
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You have already mentioned him! Yes he is good, and he was good with his previous band Mano Negra. How about Arca? http://youtu.be/XccqQVVdlN0
never heard that before. interesting, thnx!
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Must have mentioned it before, though! ;-)
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This guy is in Europe from May, if you get chance you won't be disappointed. A drop dead guitar master, and dedicated to the Deep South blues, in a thoroughly entertaining evening !
C.W.Stoneking - look him up on youtube, but his new 'electric guitar' shows are incredible!
https://www.facebook.com/cwstonekingofficial/posts/10152478615756213
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I know we're all Tracker fixated right now, but having seen this incredible artist live last night I do implore you to check him out if he plays a town near you. (There's a yt link to one of the great songs he performs live, Stoneking is quite unique.)
http://ripitup.com.au/music/c-w-stoneking-womadelaide-interview/
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Not coming to Aberdeen sadly.
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Great find Fletch! Reminded me of Dr.John's swamp albums!
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Flech, I found two of his older album in Greece (nice price too) , but not his latest. Looking forward for his live appearence. Thanks for this fine suggestion!
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Nice, I haven't got King Hokum yet, but Jungle Blues is certified madness ! The live show is incredible, he's added dates all over Europe now, I hope you enjoy :)
Edit - and the new album is fantastic too -Gon Boogaloo- in true Knopfler/Fletcher fashion, it was recorded and pressed to vinyl entirely via analogue means and you can really hear it, there's some beautiful distortion in the vocals that give it old world charm.
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Despite it getting lukewarm reviews, I absolutely love this album from beginning to end. I actually saw this band perform most of the songs on this album before it came out to about 100 people and knew they were destined for something bigger. Sure enough, they're now a lot more well known.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fBERG3rgUA0
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Dan this is fantastic! It recreates the 80ies sound perfectly! So many groups come to mind and importantly one of my favorites from that era Cocteau twins. . Still have to listen to it more times to make up my mind if there are great songs or it is just the feelings and memories that this sound stirs in me. Thanks!
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Dan this is fantastic! It recreates the 80ies sound perfectly! So many groups come to mind and importantly one of my favorites from that era Cocteau twins. . Still have to listen to it more times to make up my mind if there are great songs or it is just the feelings and memories that this sound stirs in me. Thanks!
Great, glad you liked it! The first time I heard them, I was reminded of early era music from The Cure. That's the trouble with bands like this. Sometimes they mimic their predecessors a bit too much. I still think in this case they have presented something truly unique though.