A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Brass Monkey Date on October 22, 2011, 07:12:17 PM
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I had no idea Mark Knopfler was such an extraordinary songwriter. A big thanks to juliet43 for coming over to Expecting Rain, which led me to this site and my curiousity being peaked by all of your enthusiastic comments on Knopfler
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Hi Brass Monkey Date! Welcome to the wonderful world of Knopfler and also to this forum! ;)
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Thanks Val!
Sorry Bobby D gave you a headache in Manchester. I agree, the volume at his shows these days is too high, and the sound mix too muddy.
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Welcome Brass Monkey Date
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Thanks, ds1984. Happy to be here and looking forward to making my way through the rest of Mark's catalog.
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Welcome, BMD.
While you are discovering MK's solo material, may I suggest you might also give a listen to the Straits records because there is some tremendous songwriting (and playing) involved in those albums, too. Telegraph Road, Single-Handed Sailor, Once Upon A Time in the West, In the Gallery, Down to the Waterline, Wild West End, News, industrial Disease, The Man's Too Strong . . . you might find some of these interesting lyrically. And for a Dylan fan, It Never Rains might be of interest. It always reminds me of a Dylan influence.
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It Never Rains is one of my fave DS song.
Dylan influence on that one is obvious.
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Thanks knopfling, and thanks for the tips.
I did pick up a bunch of DS records this week as well but haven't dipped into them much yet. I have put my ear on Brothers In Arms (the song), Telegraph Road and Industrial Disease a few times and love them. I'm sure I had heard them all back in the day, but only have a memory from then of Industrial Disease. I have the first record and Love Over Gold, so I look forward to hearing Wild West End and It Never Rains. From what I've heard so far, MK's solo stuff is really jarringly different from DS, though Brothers In Arms seems in a similar vein.
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OK, I've just listened to Wild West End and It Never Rains, twice through. They almost sound like they could be Dylan songs, with MK guesting on guitar of course - his guitar is unmistakable. The Dylan influence seems very clear and I have to say I like both songs a lot, but the DS "sound" definitely doesn't bowl me over the same way that the MK sound does. I'm going to keep digging in though. A lot of music that I come to dearly love doesn't hit hard me at first. That's one of the reasons I'm so jazzed about MK's stuff - it knocked me over instantly. I think part of it is his early voice - though I like it - doesn't have the same depth and resonance as that he's settled into. His voice on the solo stuff is tremendous to my ears. But then again, I love Dylan's voice, Tom Waits' voice, even Tom Verlaine's voice :o
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Another proselyte... ;D
Hey Brass Monkey Date,
welcome on board! I like your nickname because I love those lyrics so much, and now I have Mark's deep voice in my head singing it...
Somehow I am a little bit jealous of you because you have it all yet to discover... I remember the great times between announcement and release date of all those solo albums, the first listen of all those great songs you listed and how often I heard them since then and still love them all.
Feel free to be part of this great community and learn as much as possible about Mark, his music, his catalogue and his live repertoire - which is the best part of all... Last year he made it possible for us to get 50 shows via Simfy Live Download... And even if they all had the same set list more or less, it is really great to have the possibility to listen to 50 nights in good mixed quality!
LE
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^ haha, yeah what a great song LE. I can't stop listening to it. 8)
What I really love is live music. I listen to boots way more than studio albums. It's great to hear that Mark puts out a lot of live shows. It'll be great to dip into those.
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One of my all time favorite bootlegs (and I think I am not the only one who loves it) is the show "Vaison 1996". I think it was a radio recording, great sounding, long show, excellent versions, 16 minutes Sultans, very rare Wild West End and exclusive Long Highway and and and...
From 2010, most of the shows from July (those in Spain and Portugal) were really exciting. Audiences going mad, a band that really was into it and Mark getting better and better...
LE
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Very happy to see someone from "the other side" found interest in MK, after all those negative comments we've been reading about MK over at ER. Welcome aboard! :) I certainly envy you - you're still at the beginning with discovering all those beautiful songs! :)
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One of my all time favorite bootlegs (and I think I am not the only one who loves it) is the show "Vaison 1996". I think it was a radio recording, great sounding, long show, excellent versions, 16 minutes Sultans, very rare Wild West End and exclusive Long Highway and and and...
From 2010, most of the shows from July (those in Spain and Portugal) were really exciting. Audiences going mad, a band that really was into it and Mark getting better and better...
LE
I think you mean Water of Love, not WWE. ;)
PS Long Highway's rubbish. :o
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Didn't you know? When you play Telegraph Road backwards, you will hear Wild West...
ahmm, no, thanks, you are right of course. Water of Love is the track I was talking about. ::)
LE
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Well bring more on board if you can. The more the merrier. And by the way, if you follow MK's tracks (musical-footprints) you will come across many great artists. I heard MK more than 20 years ago, and through him and his collaborations I found out about Eric Clapton, Bob Dylan, Steely Dan, Randy Newman, Gerry Rafferty, and even Tom Verlaine (and others, too many to mention. For more info a very good site dedicated to MK and DS is On every bootleg. Check it out.). Television had just release the single Call Mr. Lee that had a sound reminding me of MK that I just went out to look for their albums. And they have become special ever since.
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One of my all time favorite bootlegs (and I think I am not the only one who loves it) is the show "Vaison 1996". I think it was a radio recording, great sounding, long show, excellent versions, 16 minutes Sultans, very rare Wild West End and exclusive Long Highway and and and...
From 2010, most of the shows from July (those in Spain and Portugal) were really exciting. Audiences going mad, a band that really was into it and Mark getting better and better...
LE
I think you mean Water of Love, not WWE. ;)
PS Long Highway's rubbish. :o
you ignorant bastard! :-)
one of MY favorites :-)
Brass monkey, welcome here, try these bootlegs (and i would be happy sending them to you, if you do not do torrents)
1978 Leeds, for some raw, pre-successful Dire Straits
Boston 1979
Amsterdam 1979
Werchter 1981
Wiesbaden 1981
Rotterdam 1983
Uniondale 1985 (the show of shows...with a 24min. Tunnel of love on it)
Stockholm and or Brussels 1985
Sydney 1986
Dublin 1991
Kansas 1992
Nimes 1992
Dublin or Galway 1996
Vaison 1996
any Notting Hilbillies, preferably Glasgow 1990, Snape 1990, Leeds 1993, London 1999
2001 Boston, New Orleans
2002 Sheperds Bush and Beaulie
2005 Melbourne
2006 Brussels
2006 Boothbay
2008 Amsterdam
2008 Brussels
2010 Eugene, OR
2010 any london show
etc....
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Wow, you are in a very special place BM. Discovering the whole of MKs career and appreciating it. Nice!
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Thank you all for the warm welcome!
One of my all time favorite bootlegs (and I think I am not the only one who loves it) is the show "Vaison 1996". I think it was a radio recording, great sounding, long show, excellent versions, 16 minutes Sultans, very rare Wild West End and exclusive Long Highway and and and...
From 2010, most of the shows from July (those in Spain and Portugal) were really exciting. Audiences going mad, a band that really was into it and Mark getting better and better...
LE
Thanks for the great tips LE!
Very happy to see someone from "the other side" found interest in MK, after all those negative comments we've been reading about MK over at ER. Welcome aboard! :) I certainly envy you - you're still at the beginning with discovering all those beautiful songs! :)
:lol :lol :lol I hear you goldenheart. I'd like to think we're all on the same side though - passionate music lovers. You MK fans are nice people. Trust me, even if you wanted to, you couldn't approach the scorn and ridicule heaped on Dylan by his own "fans" over at ER. He's a very polarizing figure and has meant so much to so many people at various stages of his career. Many Dylan fans see absolutely nothing of value in his current musical offerings - both live and in studio - and they're not the least bit shy about voicing those opinions.
I've only seen Paul Simon once - when he was on a co-headlining tour with Dylan in 1999. He put on a great show. I've always liked his music but never been an obsessive fan.
And yes, it's a great feeling to have all of this MK and DS music to experience for the first time. It's been keeping me up all hours. An added benefit is that I'm a guitar player and won't just listen - I'll be learning and jamming out a lot of these tunes myself.
Wow, you are in a very special place BM. Discovering the whole of MKs career and appreciating it. Nice!
Indeed, Fletch. I remember when I first got into Dylan - around 1981 - and had his whole existing catalog to get through. It can really be life transforming. I still remember the depression I felt as the number of unheard albums was approaching an end. Fortunately, technology is such that live recordings are in abundant supply, and Dylan, unlike some others :-X :lol, changes up his setlist a lot!
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Brass monkey, welcome here, try these bootlegs (and i would be happy sending them to you, if you do not do torrents)
1978 Leeds, for some raw, pre-successful Dire Straits
Boston 1979
Amsterdam 1979
Werchter 1981
Wiesbaden 1981
Rotterdam 1983
Uniondale 1985 (the show of shows...with a 24min. Tunnel of love on it)
Stockholm and or Brussels 1985
Sydney 1986
Dublin 1991
Kansas 1992
Nimes 1992
Dublin or Galway 1996
Vaison 1996
any Notting Hilbillies, preferably Glasgow 1990, Snape 1990, Leeds 1993, London 1999
2001 Boston, New Orleans
2002 Sheperds Bush and Beaulie
2005 Melbourne
2006 Brussels
2006 Boothbay
2008 Amsterdam
2008 Brussels
2010 Eugene, OR
2010 any london show
etc....
Wow Pottel what a kind offer! You're generosity is truly heartwarming! I definitely do torrents. If you could just point me in the right direction to find these - if it's allowed to do so on this forum - I'll torrent those shows. Many thanks, mate!
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http://tracker.knopflertk.net/torrents.php
to start, but dime has shedloads as well.
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welcome! :)