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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Pottel on March 05, 2012, 09:57:19 AM

Title: new picture?
Post by: Pottel on March 05, 2012, 09:57:19 AM
never seen this picture before:
http://www.dw.de/dw/episode/9797/0,,15756376,00.html
Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: Jules on March 05, 2012, 10:53:17 AM
Its one of that strange photos by Zoltan / Zolton /Whatever with Z from strange perspectives...

Hate all of them.
Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: superval99 on March 05, 2012, 10:58:43 AM
I downloaded the whole set.  They are the Get Lucky high res promo pictures.   They are pretty weird and I hope we have better ones next time! 
Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: Pottel on March 05, 2012, 11:42:35 AM
mm, anyone else got (supposed) new pictures they "found" to share here?
Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: Jules on March 05, 2012, 05:32:56 PM
never seen this picture before:
http://www.dw.de/dw/episode/9797/0,,15756376,00.html


You have that very same picture here:

http://www.markknopfler.com/gallery/
Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: twm on March 05, 2012, 06:05:31 PM
I think some of you are being unduly harsh about this set of photos. "Weird" and "strange" are strange and weird adjectives to use to describe them.

I assume they were taken by Zoriah Miller, who is a freelance photojournalist of some note, especially in his coverage of humanitarian crises. His work has even rubbed the U.S. miltary authorities up the wrong way:

http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/2008/jul/25/iraq.middleeast

I assume the choice of photographer was down to Mark himself and those among you who like "Brothers in Arms" so much may wish to ponder just why he might wish to meet Zoriah and have him take those publicity photos.

I doubt if Mark will use Zoriah again, as he seems to change photographer from one set of promo pics to the next, but, if he did, I for one wouldn't be upset. Indeed, I would applaud the decision.

Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: superval99 on March 05, 2012, 06:24:07 PM
twm,  I don't find ALL of them weird -  I like those those taken on the sofa in the old warehouse building, very much.  It's just those taken in Highgate Cemetery that I find quite weird, because they just don't look much like MK at all, in fact I can hardly recognise him!   I did already know about Zoriah's work in war zones, etc, btw!   
Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: twm on March 05, 2012, 07:51:46 PM
You're more of an MK fan than I am but I could recognise him in all the shots, including the outdoor ones.
Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: superval99 on March 05, 2012, 08:04:46 PM
The pictures shown on the MK.com Gallery are not the whole set - there are a few much nicer ones taken on a chesterfield sofa, which I do like.   Some of the ones which are taken looking at guitars through a window, look distorted to me, though - MK looks a bit like a sad clown.  If you like those in the cemetery, that's OK, they're just not my cup of tea.   It would be boring if we all liked the same things, wouldn't it!   ;)
Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: Jules on March 05, 2012, 08:30:29 PM
I dislike A LOT all that pictures taken in strange perspectives, that low and high angle shots... I dont mind how prestigious Zoriah Miller is, I don
Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: Love Expresso on March 05, 2012, 08:43:36 PM
To be honest, I like these much more:

http://www.markknopfler.com/gallery/fabioLovino.aspx (http://www.markknopfler.com/gallery/fabioLovino.aspx)

If MK is the subject of the pics I think it should be MK that takes most of the picture and not any stone, flowers, wall or whatever. These ones are from the Shangr-La sessions and I like them all very much.

LE
Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: superval99 on March 05, 2012, 08:52:06 PM
Yes, I like the Shangri-La ones, but I also like the ones from ATRR with Emmylou a lot too - the tourbook has some lovely pictures.    In fact it was the same photographer - Fabio Lovino, so I hope he is chosen again!   :)
Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: Jules on March 05, 2012, 09:01:54 PM
The cemetary ones are ok for me, actually I like them, is that high and low angles pictures that I dont like at all as it distorts everything in the picture, MK, the guitars, the lights, the scenary... Total unnecesary.
Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: twm on March 05, 2012, 11:15:02 PM
It's all in the eye of the beholder.

My guess is that Zoriah took a whole host of photos, selected those for consideration and presented them to Mark, who then chose the ones to be used as publicity photos. I can't imagine that any publicity pictures would be made generally available without Mark's prior approval.

Low angled shots; high angled shots; shots through glass; shots of images reflected in glass; shots taken with the camera turned at an angle; shots of part of the subject; shots where the background almost overwhelms the subject; shots taken very close-up; shots taken with a modicum of blurring; shots partly in shadow; shots with high contrast; unusual textures; unusual patterns; matching patterns; and many more approaches: when you're trying to take a fresh look at a relatively commonplace object or fairly frequently photographed subject, you'll try anything.



Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: vgonis on March 06, 2012, 08:30:20 PM
twm, WOW, the photos you describe sound fascinating! I would like to see them all! In fact I only saw this one photo that appears at the link that Pottel first mentioned. Of course I don't really care how they are taken, as long as they work both artistically and commercially. It is a very difficult combination that we tend to overlook. And yes, it is all down to personal taste.
Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: Jules on March 06, 2012, 08:46:33 PM
twm, WOW, the photos you describe sound fascinating! I would like to see them all! In fact I only saw this one photo that appears at the link that Pottel first mentioned. Of course I don't really care how they are taken, as long as they work both artistically and commercially. It is a very difficult combination that we tend to overlook. And yes, it is all down to personal taste.


Try the link I sent and you will see almost all the pictures.
Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: shooting_star_night on March 07, 2012, 01:41:37 AM
Nice Photo :)
Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: vgonis on March 07, 2012, 03:43:25 AM
Thanks jbaent. Regardless if I like them or not, I think they have achieved their original purpose, to stir the public opinion, and create interest-discussion-focus for the artist and the "product". The fact that we don't need such things from our man because we are already "sold", is of little importance to the marketing department. Anyway, the latest (last 100 years) developments in the aesthetics of art, come from the notion that new art has to be different in any expense, even of aesthetics. But I don't believe we can say that for these photos. 
Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: sak4 on March 08, 2012, 06:14:48 PM
Fact of life that each year MK is older, balder a few more wrinkles - thats life.  He's sensible and down to earth and doesn't try to do anything about it.   I don't think he's too bothered about photos either.

What a nice guy

Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: superval99 on March 08, 2012, 06:29:50 PM
Fact of life that each year MK is older, balder a few more wrinkles - thats life. 


In spite of all that, I think he's looking better and better as time goes by!    :P
Title: Re: new picture?
Post by: twm on March 08, 2012, 07:33:15 PM
And tubbier, too. As sak4 says, that's life.