A Mark In Time

Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Banjo99uk on March 31, 2012, 02:31:24 AM

Title: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: Banjo99uk on March 31, 2012, 02:31:24 AM
Sorry I couldn't find a relevant topic to post this in but I was watching some JJ Cale stuff on youtube and look who appears at 35 secs in the picture.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cXM9hWBnPLo&NR=1&feature=endscreen
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: twm on March 31, 2012, 10:04:55 AM
Great to see but is it really from 1988?
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: Jules on March 31, 2012, 10:18:03 AM
MK "without-T"-shirt looks like the 1979 style  ;D
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: tunnel85 on March 31, 2012, 10:22:53 AM
Very interesting picture.
It can't be '88.
For JJ, it seems to be around his #8 period, 1983-84. 
I agree with jbaent, for Mark it seems to be earlier.

Is that the Sept 14 1985 show or an earlier one ?
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: KitKat on April 01, 2012, 02:06:08 AM
I remember this picture being discussed before and if memory is accurate, the pic was signed by JJ Cale in 1988.  Apparently, he had a habit of dating his autographs.
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: JF on April 01, 2012, 09:59:15 AM
I don't know exactly the date of the pic, but there's a clue:
Mark's guitar neck

both of his Fender strats didn't have any 'skunk stripe' at the back of the neck, sot it can't be in 79 (unless Mark would have borrowed a guitar to JJ ?)

it rather looks like a Schecter one piece maple neck with bird eyes at the back of the headstock.

so it must be during the 80's
If it was in 88, I guess Mark would have used the pensa which don't have any skunk stripe'.

Regarding Mark's clothes, he used to wear such "without T"-shirts during BIA tour (e.g. wembley).

So to me, 1985 fit well.
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: Pottel on April 01, 2012, 02:06:31 PM
because of the friggin german copyright wankers i cannot view this film, can anyone upload it somewhere else?
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: twm on April 01, 2012, 03:14:26 PM
Pottel,

Assuming you want the MK/JJ photo, check your e-mails. I think the second e-mail will have the photo attached, even if the first does not. I tried to get it to you two ways.

Maybe you should post it in the thread in case others have the same problem.

twm
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: Pottel on April 01, 2012, 03:49:58 PM
That is the pic as made by jj's Manager, Mike Kappus, in Sept. 85
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: Justme on April 01, 2012, 05:27:33 PM
http://www.unblockyoutube.co.uk/

Goodbye GEMA!
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: Pottel on April 02, 2012, 12:04:44 AM
http://www.unblockyoutube.co.uk/

Goodbye GEMA!
thnx Justme!
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: Pottel on April 02, 2012, 12:27:29 AM
by the way, does no one realise how effing brilliant this man is? this song alone should make you all run to the nearest LP-store...awesome artist.
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: Banjo99uk on April 02, 2012, 12:34:41 AM
Ive said it before and I'll say it again. When it comes to early MK influences I prefer him to BD.  His music is right up my street.
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: Pottel on April 02, 2012, 12:35:37 AM
JJ is legend. and a VERY gentle person as well.
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: Banjo99uk on April 02, 2012, 12:49:36 AM
JJ Cale seems like a really nice human.
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: Hoops McCann on April 02, 2012, 03:45:17 AM
by the way, does no one realise how effing brilliant this man is? this song alone should make you all run to the nearest LP-store...awesome artist.

Indeed, I hadn't listened to much JJ Cale up until this morning. :disbelief I just knew a little bit about his association with Clapton. I've been listening to Naturally today and it's a fantastic album.

If you want to hear an early MK influence, listen to Al Stewart's Year of the Cat. MK had to have listened to that album at some point early on. To me, parts of the drums on the title track sound exactly like the drums in Sultans.
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: sweetsurrender on April 02, 2012, 06:44:08 AM
JJ is legend. and a VERY gentle person as well.


I am in a class with an older gentleman who is a friend of mine also.  His best friend in high school was Leon Russell. He told me a bunch of stories about growing up with Leon and if I remembered correctly he went to the same high school with JJ.  He met many famous artists such as Elton John and Eric Clapton while visiting Leon in the studio.    He never met Mark , but did say that most artists he knew all spoke very highly of Mark.  That made me feel really really good.  He knows I love Mark :)  We talked mostly interesting music stuff.
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: superval99 on April 02, 2012, 09:28:45 AM
I absolutely love JJ Cale - his albums are so cool and laid back!   Yesterday, I had a JJ day, listening to lots of his albums.  I love them all, but probably my favourites are "Okie"  "Naturally"  "Travel Log" and "Number 10".
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: twm on April 02, 2012, 11:13:48 AM
If anyone's interested in an audio of MArk with JJ in 1985, perhaps someone on this fan site might be able to help:

http://www.jjcale.net/
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: vgonis on April 02, 2012, 11:31:42 AM
his first 10 albums are flawless and the rest perfect. My favorites have to be 5,8, Grasshopper and Troubadour. Also Shades has 3-4 of my all time favorite songs: Carry on, Cloudy day, Deep dark dungeon etc.
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: tunnel85 on April 02, 2012, 12:36:50 PM
his first 10 albums are flawless and the rest perfect. My favorites have to be 5,8, Grasshopper and Troubadour. Also Shades has 3-4 of my all time favorite songs: Carry on, Cloudy day, Deep dark dungeon etc.
Almost the same ones for me : Grasshopper, Troubadour, #8 and Travel-log.
Favorite songs : carry on ;) , travelin' light, artificial paradise and the absolute masterpiece stone river (Fish Tree Water Blues version).

 
 
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: Pottel on April 02, 2012, 10:01:14 PM
need i again tell you all how great a song "Artificial Paradise" from his underestimated album "10" is?? he has no bad songs. mamma don't allow...aah, his version is the best... (who's song is that anyways?)
i used the same way to contact JJ's manager some years ago TWM, to ask him bout the pictures.
i was also in contact with his awesomely cowboy like piano player, "Rocky Frisco" (man, that name!!) who was sadly not in his band yet by that time (1985) even though the man looks like he could have been around changing JJ's diapers...
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: Pottel on April 02, 2012, 10:02:42 PM
listening to some brilliant live neil young with our very own Chad on drums (show from 1988, around the time of his brilliant Blue note album)
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: vgonis on April 02, 2012, 10:31:52 PM
need i again tell you all how great a song "Artificial Paradise" from his underestimated album "10" is?? he has no bad songs. mamma don't allow...aah, his version is the best... (who's song is that anyways?)
i used the same way to contact JJ's manager some years ago TWM, to ask him bout the pictures.
i was also in contact with his awesomely cowboy like piano player, "Rocky Frisco" (man, that name!!) who was sadly not in his band yet by that time (1985) even though the man looks like he could have been around changing JJ's diapers...

Davenport claimed to have been the composer of "Mama Don't Allow It". He also said he had written the Louis Armstrong hit "I'll be Glad When You're Dead (You Rascal You)", but sold the rights  and credit to others.(from wiki) Yes that is the 4th song from Shades I forgot to mention. Do you see the resemblance with the Gitanes cigarettes' pack?  http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gitanes




Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: Pottel on April 02, 2012, 10:37:15 PM
yeah VG, always found that to be a very, very nice piece of artwork, and the resemblance has always been very obvious to me...
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: vgonis on April 02, 2012, 10:50:39 PM
I kind of dislike Neil Young's 80ies period. It was a sort of "don't know what I am doing" period. Personal problems didn't help either. But there are an album worth of songs, from this period, that some people would give their hair to have written. (the bald ones, know what I am talking about)
But I like Hawk and doves and Old ways. I still can't listen to the others, only bits and pieces of them.
Even his 90ies feel a bit short, although everybody thinks it is his big come back. Harvest moon was OK, and Ragged glory had its moments, but the rest were so uneven. The new century was much more rewarding. Chrome dreams II stayed in my CD player for a week! But gone are the days when you could put a Neil vinyl on the stereo and listen to it uninterrupted, again and again. His last truly great record has to be Rust never sleeps. I stopped buying his records when the crisis hitted Greece, so no Noise or his newer one. Are they any good? 
Title: Re: JJ Cale and MK pic
Post by: Pottel on April 02, 2012, 11:10:04 PM
Correction:i believe the cd I mean is called "this note's for you"