A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: knopflerized on April 04, 2012, 10:01:12 PM
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Hello Folks,
I'm not that active on that forum anymore... so I'm sorry if it was already posted...( I had a quick check it seems not...)
MK is featuring on Chris Botti Album ! You can listen to a tiny clip here !
http://www.amazon.com/What-A-Wonderful-World/dp/B007QYLOZS/ref=sr_1_1?ie=UTF8&s=dmusic&qid=1333568970&sr=1-1
Love it :-)
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Love it, too! Mark's voice is sooooooo unique...
Please come back! Why not? AMIT would be happy to have you back!
LE
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i guess knopflerized means "the other forum"
i love this version. think it is brilliant and 7 minutes+!!!
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Wow! :D
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Fantastic clip! :)
I love his singing and the nice guitar in there.. ;D
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I love it too! :P
knopflerized - please come back to us, you are missed! :-*
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What a lovely track and what a tease that sample was - just as Mark was about to let loose the Gibson!!! Roll on the 17th...
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I love it too! :P
knopflerized - please come back to us, you are missed! :-*
Yup, miss Knopflerized it would be great if you had more time and could be posting here again,
I miss you too as well as many other ladies who have been posting for years! ;)
Where are our stories about the...... hhhmmm beautiful blue eyes of Mark and his black leather suit? :P
Yeahhhh great memories of a wonderful time! ;D
Btw thank you for posting the link! ;)
Fieneke
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Hi Fieneke! I agree! It is great to be a member of this forum and I really enjoy chatting to the lovely guys here, but somehow the ladies have become seriously outnumbered these days! Ladies, if you read this, please come back to us so that we can have all the delicious drooly posts again - and more serious stuff too, of course! :o
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The clip was short, so it's difficult to judge, but my impression is that Mark has gone for a different angle on the song, as one would hope (expect, even). It is so easy to find oneself following the cadence of a well-remembered version from one's past. Mark's vocal changes the points of emphasis within the lyric.
As many of you will know, McCartney has recently released an album of favourite songs from his own youth. This is understandable and, in a way, commendable but, in Macca's case, some of the songs don't really sound like him. Mark, at least, has avoided that trap, as far as we can hear from this short clip.
Does anyone know if, vocally,Mark just contributes this section of the song or is there more of the lyric from him?
Also, are there any indications that he might have been delving into the Great American Songbook?
Finally, a suggestion for the ladies. If you wish to apply "Fifty Shades of Grey" here, why not start a "Cool Drools" thread? Just an idea!
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Oh the ladies had that in the past. I think we all remember very well.... :-*
LE
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Oh the ladies had that in the past. I think we all remember very well.... :-*
LE
Oh yes, I remember it well! ;D
twm - Here it is! :P
http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php/topic,102.0.html
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Being a newbie, I didn't know that. So, why not resurrect it?
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Being a newbie, I didn't know that. So, why not resurrect it?
We would need more of the ladies to return to the fold first, but it would be great if it was resurrected, because I remember we all had such a lot of fun! :)
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Being a newbie, I didn't know that. So, why not resurrect it?
We would need more of the ladies to return to the fold first, but it would be great if it was resurrected, because I remember we all had such a lot of fun! :)
correction! The ladies had fun....
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Being a newbie, I didn't know that. So, why not resurrect it?
We would need more of the ladies to return to the fold first, but it would be great if it was resurrected, because I remember we all had such a lot of fun! :)
correction! The ladies had fun....
That's exactly what I meant, pottel! ;) I think the guys had a few peeks though! ::)
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Being a newbie, I didn't know that. So, why not resurrect it?
We would need more of the ladies to return to the fold first, but it would be great if it was resurrected, because I remember we all had such a lot of fun! :)
correction! The ladies had fun....
Haha Pottel, the ladies had sure a LOT of fun and........most of the guys as well! I am sure about that! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Roflbig.gif)
Thank you for mentioning twm and LE and for posting the link Val! I have been reading the first 2 pages and it made me laugh again! It is a pity that I don't have time today to read all the others, but will try to read them all this weekend! What a great time we all had! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Grinsmiley.gif)
Btw Imagine we had at that time 13 pages and most important 11.235 visitors watching! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Grinning.gif)
Fieneke
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Getting back to to the main thrust of this thread (sorry, ladies), I watched an episode of "Masters of American Music" on TV this evening and it was the one about Louis Armstrong, made in the late 1980s. It had lots of great clips but not one of Satchmo doing "What A Wonderful World". However, it did have a snatch of his recording towards the end. There was a clip of him and Billie Holiday together (one of the first albums I ever bought was a Billie Holiday one, from her recordings for the Commodore label) and she is a great vocalist.
The clip that really brought out memories, though, was Louis Armstrong and trombonist Jack Teagarden duetting on "Rockin' Chair". The singing wasn't the best but the first record I ever owned was a 78 of the two of them doing that song live at New York Town Hall in 1948 (I forget the precise date). The disc was given me by a neighbour who played in a small dance band and had learned of my growing interest in jazz. The only thing was, we didn't have any means of playing the record at home. The neighbour concernd had built his own hi-fi system, doubtless rather basic but wonderful to me, and he played the record before passing it on. A lot later, I took round to a jazz-lover of my own age and played it there. As I had no record player, I was persuaded to leave it there, so i could play it on my various visits. Eventually, our ways parted and I left that 78 behind - sadly.
Incidentally, the neighbour in question was a Chet Atkins fan and had quite a lot of his 78s as I recall, which I also heard on my visits there.
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Hi,
I read the forum almost daily, but this is my first post.
On the US amazon site there is a promo video about Chris Botti's new album with some friendly comments from Mark starting at 1.43 into the video:
http://www.amazon.com/Chris-Botti/e/B000AQ8S0S/ref=ntt_mus_dp_pel
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Welcome to AMIT Surferboy and thank you very much for sharing this beautiful video!
It was nice to see and hear Mark talking! ;D
Fieneke
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Hi,
I read the forum almost daily, but this is my first post.
On the US amazon site there is a promo video about Chris Botti's new album with some friendly comments from Mark starting at 1.43 into the video:
http://www.amazon.com/Chris-Botti/e/B000AQ8S0S/ref=ntt_mus_dp_pel
Thanks, surferboy! This is going to be a lovely version, I'm sure...
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Many thanks Surferboy for drawing my attention to the video. I can't wait to hear the whole song and I'm sure I'm going to love it! :)
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Looks like it's going to be a great record. Perfect for quiet evenings and Sunday afternoons. (I mean that in a good way.)
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;) http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pnWTrG6gSZ8&feature=channel&list=UL
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Fantastic! Thanks for sharing! Really great version with some juicy licks from MK and nice instrumental outro. Have to listen again...
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What about MK including it occasionally in his forthcoming solo tour, perhaps with Chris Botti guesting? Wouldn't that make for a wonderful world!
Indeed, isn't it about time that Mark tried out a brass section on stage? I mean, I really do enjoy his Celtic- and folk-tinged material (sorry to bang on about it but I like this style more than the DS-based stuff - most of you will disagee but it's my taste and that's the way I respond to what I hear) but one could put forward an arguement that Mark's guitar-playing is well-suited to some jazzy arrangements. OK, this is what I might call soft jazz (lounge-style perhaps but no mere elevator music) but it's a lyrical sound, gentle on the ear and it involves a subtle but firm control of tempo and mood - all wthin Mark's capabilities. It's a bit less forgiving on vocal inaccuracies but Mark could cope with that. Overall, it might stretch Mark a bit but, apart from personal inclination, I see little reason why he should not try it out.
Emulating and extending what tends to be termed "the great American songbook" tradition might just be the sort of challenge to stimulate his creative juices.
Finally, I'm not much up on current jazz musicians, so Chris Botti was new to me - even though he has been around for years, won Grammys, recorded many albums and played with a range of musicians, including some I've seen and enjoy. This is a failing on my part, which I will seek to rectify in the coming months. Most jazz trumpters these days owe some kind of debt to Miles Davis and I suspect the same is true of Botti. One of my musical regrets is not seeing Miles Davis live as I love his material, from "The Birth of the Cool" period, up through those Prestige albums with one word titles, then "Kind of Blue" (still selling quite well decades on) and albums he made with Gil Evans. These CDs are played almost as often as Bob Dylan's here.
Just as Dylan has brought me to other musicians who might otherwise have passed me by, so MK has had the same effect in this case.
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Thank you very much for sharing, that's great!
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What an unexpected surprise this Sunday morning! Perfect! Thank you very much - I loved it!
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Sounds good, but wait until you hear Tango Suite with Herbie Hancock on the same album.
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Sounds good, but wait until you hear Tango Suite with Herbie Hancock on the same album.
Where can we hear that? ???
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Val, not legally, I'm afraid, so I won't post any links here. But a search for Chris Botti and the album title will yield quick results.
(Just for the record, whenever I download something from "unofficial" places, I delete it after I've listened to it. For me it's like going to a record shop and ask to listen to a CD. And if I like it, I buy it.)
I have also listened to the whole album, and I think it's really nice. I will consider buying it. Definitely a Christmas gift for my dad.
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Sorry, but despite being a Knopflerite since the early 1980's, this does nothing for me! Much prefer the original by Louis!
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Hi Jackal - I have just been trawling the web and I can find some places to download the album, but I will wait for the official release. Thanks anyway! :)
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Sorry, but despite being a Knopflerite since the early 1980's, this does nothing for me! Much prefer the original by Louis!
"What a Wonderful World" will be Louis' song forever - nothing and nobody will ever change that - he owns the song! It was very interesting, though, to hear MK's take on the song and I feel that he made a very good job of it in his own, rather cosy, singy- speaky, way! The trumpet, piano and guitar sounded pretty good too! :)
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Is any of the other guys involved in the song? Is it Mark's musicians?
http://www.chrisbotti.com/sites/chrisbotti/files/Everyone.jpg
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Is any of the other guys involved in the song? Is it Mark's musicians?
http://www.chrisbotti.com/sites/chrisbotti/files/Everyone.jpg
Guy has said that Jim Cox arranged the song, so I would think he played the piano part too. It sounds as though there are some strings there as well, so maybe it was done when the string orchestra came to BG. I may be wrong, but they don't sound like synthesized strings to me. :)
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Sounds good, but wait until you hear Tango Suite with Herbie Hancock on the same album.
Where can we hear that? ???
Here (for a limited time only):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1XnvY2wo1w
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Thank you Jackal, much appreciated! I enjoyed it very much, even though I'm not the greatest jazz fan in the world! I'm sure I will like it even more after a few spins! :)
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Thank you Jackal, much appreciated! I enjoyed it very much, even though I'm not the greatest jazz fan in the world! I'm sure I will like it even more after a few spins! :)
:)
TWM mentioned Kind of Blue by Miles Davis earlier. This maybe my favorite track on that record.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F3W_alUuFkA
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Wow, what a nice surprise! Chris Botti and MK, an unusual, yet interesting collaboration. I've known Chris before, he accompanied Paul Simon on his "Born At The Right Time" tour in 1991 along with Steve Gadd and - of course - the great Michael Brecker. Check this out:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zDfT8tUtUiw
If Chris also plays on MK's new album then I'm sure he will add some very tasteful sounds to MK's.
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Absolutely superb!!!!
Love Marks voice & guitar obviously, but loving the trumpet too!!!!!
Cheers. BBB
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Jackal - Thanks for "Flamenco Sketches"! It was really beautiful - perfect late evening listening, infact I'm drifting off already! ;) Note to me - I must explore Miles Davis further! :)
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The amount of people at Paul Simon's concert in the park is just incredible. Think it was about 100,000. Just insane.
Val, if you like soothing jazz like that, you should also check out Stan Getz (most famous from playing sax on Girl from Ipanema). One of the best sax tones ever.
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Thanks for the video(s)! Sounds great, now I'm going to buy the whole album. Before this "teaser" I did intent to buy just the MK/Chris Botti track at amazon.
Now make yourself a cuppa and enjoy the upcoming 25 minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqo3DRwlFO4&feature=related
(Miles Davis (flh, tp) Emmett Berry, Johnny Coles, Louis Mucci, Clyde Reasinger, Ernie Royal (tp) Jimmy Cleveland, Bill Elton, Frank Rehak (tb) Rod Levitt (vtb) Bob Northern, Julius Watkins (frh) Bill Barber (tu) Eddie Caine, Romeo Penque (fl) Danny Bank (bcl) John Coltrane (ts, as) Wynton Kelly (p) Paul Chambers (b) Jimmy Cobb (d) Gil Evans (arr,? cond) Robert Herridge (ann) 1959)
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Wonderful world? Really? Really Mark??? The end is near....
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The amount of people at Paul Simon's concert in the park is just incredible. Think it was about 100,000. Just insane.
I think the official VHS tape says 750.000 but that seems a little bit unrealistic. I googled a bit and found this:
http://www.newyorkhistoryblog.com/2008/07/historic-central-park-concert-numbers.html
I think 100.000 might be correct.
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Now make yourself a cuppa and enjoy the upcoming 25 minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqo3DRwlFO4&feature=related
Love this. Absolutely fantastic music from arguably the best time in the history of jazz.
By the way, I wonder if this show, with the cool, smoking host, was the inspiration of this show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsQYzpOHpik
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It's mind-blowing, isn't it? Here are 45 minutes recorded in 1967 you won't regret to watch:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LVFLYz0SdKg
(Miles Davis - Around The Midnight (1967)
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Sounds good, but wait until you hear Tango Suite with Herbie Hancock on the same album.
Where can we hear that? ???
Here (for a limited time only):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1XnvY2wo1w
Thank for the link but really not my cuppa
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Sounds good, but wait until you hear Tango Suite with Herbie Hancock on the same album.
Where can we hear that? ???
Here (for a limited time only):
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1XnvY2wo1w (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i1XnvY2wo1w)
Thank for the link but really not my cuppa
Well, whatever cranks your tractor :)
I first listened to jazz (bebop actually) as a 14-year-old, although I didn't have a clue about what was going on, but I was just fascinated. It wasn't until recent years, my 30s, that I started buying jazz CDs. I find it very appealing, especially the jazz from 1945 to 1965. Now, as I my musical understanding, theoretically, is better, I get a lot more out of it. The problem is though that a lot of music sounds very banal in comparison ...
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A few years before the Miles Davis programme, in 1957, Robert Herridge had made
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Well, whatever cranks your tractor :)
Sorry don't understand what that mean (http://a21.idata.over-blog.com/2/68/15/83/images-GIF/smiley-gratte-tete.png)
(and google/babylon translation give ridiculous result on that)
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Well, whatever cranks your tractor :)
Sorry don't understand what that mean (http://a21.idata.over-blog.com/2/68/15/83/images-GIF/smiley-gratte-tete.png)
(and google/babylon translation give ridiculous result on that)
Crank = start, i.e. "whatever gets you going".
In other words, that which is your "cuppa" is that which "cranks your tractor" :)
(Other expressions - whatever turns you on, tickles your pickle, etc.)
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THANK YOU very much Maroretto for sharing this music of Mark! I enjoyed listening. (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/3511504d6836511af49a93488fbc3c4a1c3.gif)
Fieneke
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it's ok and I still can't quite believe MK would cover such a classic. If it was me I would have just had the vocal and piano the whole way through. I understand that would be strange on a trumpeteers album.
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A few years before the Miles Davis programme, in 1957, Robert Herridge had made
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For those interested in some of the history of jazz and theoretical aspects of the music, I can recommend this website that I found some years ago. Lots of good info, especially beneficial for musicians among us:
http://www.outsideshore.com/primer/primer/ (http://www.outsideshore.com/primer/primer/)
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Now make yourself a cuppa and enjoy the upcoming 25 minutes:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Vqo3DRwlFO4&feature=related
Love this. Absolutely fantastic music from arguably the best time in the history of jazz.
By the way, I wonder if this show, with the cool, smoking host, was the inspiration of this show:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MsQYzpOHpik
the fast show? one of my absolute favourites....sweeeettt :-)
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For those interested in some of the history of jazz and theoretical aspects of the music, I can recommend this website that I found some years ago. Lots of good info, especially beneficial for musicians among us:
http://www.outsideshore.com/primer/primer/ (http://www.outsideshore.com/primer/primer/)
Thanks, I'll look into that!
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Wonderful world? Really? Really Mark??? The end is near....
Well if the end of the world is near.... Be sure to make all to be a wonderful end !! :D
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Thanks for the outsideshore link. Some of it is beyond my comprehension but there's great stuff there.
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For those interested in some of the history of jazz and theoretical aspects of the music, I can recommend this website that I found some years ago. Lots of good info, especially beneficial for musicians among us:
http://www.outsideshore.com/primer/primer/ (http://www.outsideshore.com/primer/primer/)
Thanks Jackal, really interesting site !
I like jazz (Armstrong, Parker, Davis, Reinhardt, Joe pass & Herb Ellis...) and also jazz-rock (Beck, Mick Taylor explored fusion on his 79 solo album, or when Santana played some Coltrane tunes...) but I'm not able to play this style, it's too hard.
My limited guitar style never go very far from the pentatonic blues scale.... :-[
I try, I try, but blues always come back ;D
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JF,
Yes, jazz is difficult. It takes a lot of knowledge and "feeling" to get it right. I have in no way mastered it,, but I feel I am able to make my playing at least a bit jazzier, if you know I mean. And having listened a lot to jazz now, I am able to hear pretty complicated chord progressions in my head.
As a starting point I would recommend you to play for example the C major scale with chords (C - Dm - Em - F - G - Am - Bdim - C).
Then learn to play it with four-tone chords: Cmaj7 - Dm7 - Em7 - Fmaj7 - G7 - Am7 - Bm7-5 ("half-diminished) - Cmaj7.
Then you play those chords as arpeggios (only the chord tones).
Then you play the modes that go with each chord (Cmaj7 - Ionian, Dm7 - Dorian, Em7 - Phrygian, etc.). There's a mode corresponding to each step of the scale as you can see.
Later, you could record a little thing in Am7. Four bars of Am7, four bars of D9. Put that on a loop, and play the A Dorian mode over that. Will sound pretty jazzy right away.
A little trick that I like to make things jazzy is to slide into the note I'm supposed to play from a half-step below. If I'm supposed to play C - D - E - F - E ... I would play C - D - D#/E - F - D#/E ... Listen to the sax players. They do it all the time. They approach the notes from a halfstep below or above. Using chromatic notes like that (notes that are not part of the scale), makes the smoother. Pentatonic scales are very UNsmooth :) and therefore fit for blues and rock. Jazz is kind of elegant and sophisticated, so you want your sound to be like that. Thick chords with many notes, chromatic runs, make it jazzy immediately.
I'm sure if you spend some time with that website, it will make it easier to know what's going on. It's not magic, but notes that are put together in a certain way that creates a certain sound. Very fascinating :)
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many thanks Jackal, I will try.
The problem is that I'm a bit lazy...and I can't spend much time on guitar... (you know : wife, kids... ::))
So when I got, say 15 min free, I don't want to "study" guitar, just have fun :)
when I was 11-15 years old, I first learned classical piano, with musical theory.
after 4 years, I stopped and started to play with a singer who only said the chords progressions to me.
Then, I discovered another way to play music, and forgot almost what I learned :-[
around 17-18 years old I started to play guitar, alone, without teacher, and at this time I was listening to blues, blues, and sometimes blues ;D. So the first licks I wanted to play were like the JL. hooker things, you know what I mean.
Then It was rock-country, riffs, lead licks and so on, yes all very UNsmooth ;D
in the mid-90's, my friend drummer made me discover prog-rock (genesis, yes, oldfield....) and I re-discovered something I've forgot : the melody.
Now, my daughter learn piano and musical theory, so I enjoy to re-learn what I forgot :)
I always listen to jazz, and I know what you mean by saying "elegant and sophitiscated". Totally agree
Yes, the chromatic thing makes it smoother. I like to play the 5th augmented for example, or the "in-between" notes, not in the scale.
By the way, that's what make Mark's style so special : sometimes straight style, and sometimes smoother
I remember reading on MKnewsforum a thing like that :
"on 2 first DS albums, Mark play only pentatonic scales, but you don't hear pentatonic" :)
and of course, around LOG time, he inclued much jazz influences in his chords progressions, and scales.
Sometimes I'd like he'd play less chromatic licks, and more straight, UNsmooth licks :)
as always, sorry for my poor and bad english, but I guess you understand what I mean ;)
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No problem. And sorry for writing the previoius post in a way that you sound like you don't how a clue. You obviously do, so I apologize if you felt I was speaking down to you. (Note to self - never assume anything.)
I'm not very advanced in my knowledge, and I too am pretty lazy, but it's really satisfying when you learn something theoretical and then put it into practice and you see it works! I have a friend who's an engineer. Very clever and he knows a bit of guitar. But he basically treats everything as mathematics, which in a sense it is. But what's the point of learning theory for theory's sake? It has to be applied, and I believe that makes people much more versatile musicians.
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No problem Jackal, I never thought you was speaking down to me :)
I know that all people here on AMIT are all nice chaps, and post their knowledge with kindness :)
I wrote a little mistake : when I said the 5th augmented, I meant the flattened 5th , e.g. the Bb when you play in the key of E.
About the relation between mathematics and musical theory , I totally agree.
Ingo says the same thing. He's a maths teacher and a musician, and I think it helps a lot.
(well, I made maths university studies too, so maybe my mind is a litlle bit too Cartesian).
But of course, you have to add feeling to the knowledge and technique, and it's always difficult to find the good "mixture"
I agree too, that spending time learning can really bring satisfaction.
That's why, when my girls return to school next week, I already planned to try your chords progression next tuesday ;D
And I already planned to record and post a new tune : shorter, different from the previous one, something I (very modestly) "composed" 20 years ago...
I would enjoy to talk with you about music by hours and days , but I'm afraid it interests only 2 us.
I guess this thread is not the place to discuss about scales, keys and circle of fifths ? ;)
Maybe should we start another thread in General discussion ?
best
JF
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;D Oh, the others should learn too hehehe
I'd be delighted to chat about music theory. We can certainly start a music theory thread. As a matter of fact, will do so right now.
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Great! Can we return to "What a Wonderful World" now? ;D
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What about the big guy from Hawaii, the one with the unpronounceable name, who mixed "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" with "What A Wonderful Wolrd"? I can't recall much about it but it wasn't exactly a medley, more one song to the tune of another, as played on BBC Radio 4's non-quiz game, "I haven't A Clue"
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I'm sorry, twm, but I haven't a clue either ;D
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Actually, I had a clue!
I just searhed YouTube for the two songtitles and found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZqPLxCDLs4&feature=related
Didn't know the guy's name, but I had definitely heard the song before. Sounds great. (Btw, saw the movie The Descendants with George Clooney recently. Lots of great Hawaiian music.)
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That's the guy - "Iz" for short (Israel Kamakawiwo'ole for long). When was that? I just remember him looking a bit like a Sumo wrestler. Was it a hit or something? I can't even recall why I can remember anything about him or the song. Thanks for finding that.
Perhaps, for those who don't know, I should explain the "I Haven't A Clue" reference. This BBC Radio 4 programme is a long-running comedy quiz that is actually called, "I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue". It describes itself as "an antidote to panel games" and consists of two teams, each of two comedians, given a series of tasks described as "silly things to do". One of the "silly things" that crops up from time to time is to sing "one song to the the tune of another". There are a couple of other musical "games". One is called "pick-up tune". A disc is played and the panellist has to start to sing along with it; then the record is faded out entirely but the panellist has to continue singing; after a period of time, the recording on the disc is faded back up again; the "winner" is the panellist who comes closest to keeping up with the recording. Nothing in the show is serious, as you can gather.
Perhaps the most bizarre (and thus the most popular) "game" is one called "Mornington Crescent", taken from the name of a station on the London Tube system. Quite simply, the game has no rules whatsoever, other than each panellist in turn calling out the name of a London landmark (quite often the name of a street or a Tube station) until one says "Mornington Crescent". The first to say "Mornington Crescent" is the winner - except nobody really cares. As there are no rules, there is disputation over whether a contribution is within the "rules", with obscure and strange-sounding "rules" being cited. Similarly, without rules, there are no real tactics, so, naturally, there is a fair amount of discussion about what particular strategems or tactics are being used in any particular instance. The whole point is that nobody understands the game but everyone pretends that they do - indeed, that they are experts in playing it.
By now, anyone reading this posting who is not British will have arrived at the conclusion that we are indeed quite mad over here. To compound this, the programme must have been going for something like 40 years, has become something of an insitution and has won radio awards on quite a few occasions. You can even buy recordings of some of the programmes commercially.
For years and years, the chairman was Humphrey Lytlleton, best known as a jazz trumpter with his own jazz band. He adopted a very dry delivery of the script, which usually included puns, double entendre, sarcasm and (as mentioned in another thread) paraprosdokians. The most frequent chairman since his sad death has been Jack Dee, a comedian who also has a very deadpan delivery.
What a weird and wonderful world it is! Is that where "www" comes from?
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"What a Wonderful World" ... ufff the master has returned. Amazing !!!
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twm, it seems to be a funny show, even I'm not english native.
In France we had a TV game called "kamoulox" by humorists Kad & Olivier.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8bDmeeGVNvc
A bit the same : noone understand the rules (as there isn't), but everyone pretend to win ! ;D
of course, all is 272e degree humor, a bit like Monty Pythons.
I like it very much :)
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http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tB-TO_12DIU&feature=youtu.be
Complete video press kit http://vimeo.com/m/40035945 (http://vimeo.com/m/40035945)
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Thank you jbaent! It's great to hear Chris saying what a nice person MK is. I have heard him described as "a true gentleman" by many people who have been involved musically with him. Thanks also for getting us back on track btw! ;)
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Thank you jbaent! It's great to hear Chris saying what a nice person MK is. I have heard him described as "a true gentleman" by many people who have been involved musically with him. Thanks also for getting us back on track btw! ;)
You are welcome ;)
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Thanks also for getting us back on track btw! Wink
Yes, sorry to post replies unrelated to the original topic, but when someone chat about something interesting, I find a bit useless to start another thread, just to reply to him.
I will try to not disturb anymore... :)
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Mea culpa. Inter alios ;D
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That's the guy - "Iz" for short (Israel Kamakawiwo'ole for long). When was that? I just remember him looking a bit like a Sumo wrestler. Was it a hit or something? I can't even recall why I can remember anything about him or the song. Thanks for finding that.
Perhaps, for those who don't know, I should explain the "I Haven't A Clue" reference. This BBC Radio 4 programme is a long-running comedy quiz that is actually called, "I'm Sorry I Haven't A Clue". It describes itself as "an antidote to panel games" and consists of two teams, each of two comedians, given a series of tasks described as "silly things to do". One of the "silly things" that crops up from time to time is to sing "one song to the the tune of another". There are a couple of other musical "games". One is called "pick-up tune". A disc is played and the panellist has to start to sing along with it; then the record is faded out entirely but the panellist has to continue singing; after a period of time, the recording on the disc is faded back up again; the "winner" is the panellist who comes closest to keeping up with the recording. Nothing in the show is serious, as you can gather.
Perhaps the most bizarre (and thus the most popular) "game" is one called "Mornington Crescent", taken from the name of a station on the London Tube system. Quite simply, the game has no rules whatsoever, other than each panellist in turn calling out the name of a London landmark (quite often the name of a street or a Tube station) until one says "Mornington Crescent". The first to say "Mornington Crescent" is the winner - except nobody really cares. As there are no rules, there is disputation over whether a contribution is within the "rules", with obscure and strange-sounding "rules" being cited. Similarly, without rules, there are no real tactics, so, naturally, there is a fair amount of discussion about what particular strategems or tactics are being used in any particular instance. The whole point is that nobody understands the game but everyone pretends that they do - indeed, that they are experts in playing it.
By now, anyone reading this posting who is not British will have arrived at the conclusion that we are indeed quite mad over here. To compound this, the programme must have been going for something like 40 years, has become something of an insitution and has won radio awards on quite a few occasions. You can even buy recordings of some of the programmes commercially.
For years and years, the chairman was Humphrey Lytlleton, best known as a jazz trumpter with his own jazz band. He adopted a very dry delivery of the script, which usually included puns, double entendre, sarcasm and (as mentioned in another thread) paraprosdokians. The most frequent chairman since his sad death has been Jack Dee, a comedian who also has a very deadpan delivery.
What a weird and wonderful world it is! Is that where "www" comes from?
i always loved "have i got news for you sir"
also, i heard this song the first time agggggggeeessss ago in meet joe black, always wondered who sang it, then years later it becomes this rather huge hit...what a wonderful world i say...
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Pottel, we were back on the road, stay polite!
;D
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Like I said, inter alios. Inter alios.
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I keep checking the Australian iTunes store... Nothing. Is there a release schedule I've missed somewhere?
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same with UK iTunes, and Amazon.co.uk, is it only coming out in USA?
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I just ordered it via amazon.com from a seller called -importcds. 9.99 USD plus shipping. Gift for dad, though :) (I bought Cooder's Chavez' Ravine for myself. Just to let you know.)
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This may get shoved elsewhere but these photos provoke a sense of wonder at the world:
http://www.huffingtonpost.co.uk/2012/04/05/space-photos-european-southern-observatory_n_1405682.html?icid=maing-grid7%7Cuk%7Cdl8%7Csec1_lnk3%26pLid%3D105618#s845318
Scroll down the page a bit to find the 50 photos that have been published by the European Southern Observatory to mark its fifty years.
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I just ordered it via amazon.com from a seller called -importcds. 9.99 USD plus shipping. Gift for dad, though :) (I bought Cooder's Chavez' Ravine for myself. Just to let you know.)
Chavez Ravine...Cool. Anyway I,flathead is much better
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I just ordered it via amazon.com from a seller called -importcds. 9.99 USD plus shipping. Gift for dad, though :) (I bought Cooder's Chavez' Ravine for myself. Just to let you know.)
Chavez Ravine...Cool. Anyway I,flathead is much better
Oh yeah?! Wanna fight?!!! ;D
I like Chavez Ravine better, both the music and the story, but I, Flathead too is great. I play all three albums from the California trilogy constantly on Grooveshark, but I have picked out my favorite songs. Most of the songs come from Chavez Ravine.
I'm looking forward to getting the CD. Apparently, it has a nice thick booklet, as do all the trilogy albums.
(http://www.nonesuch.com/files/imagecache/section-albums-coverart/albums/coverart/cooder-chavez-ravine.jpg)
http://www.nonesuch.com/albums/chavez-ravine (http://www.nonesuch.com/albums/chavez-ravine)
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Fight???
---O.K.
hehehe ;D
Yeah. The trilogy is wonderful. I got them all too. My favourite from Chavez is: Corrido de boxeo. Excellent.
But all time fave: Waitin' for some girl from Flathead.
Hope Ry and MK someday play together...
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Corrido de boxeo? Strange choice, I'd say. Mine are Poor Man's Shangri La, It's Just Work for Me, and Soy Luz y Sombra. Just love the production.
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Its not in Spotify either...
There must be a kind of legal thing, maybe the record has to be released later in Europe, I dont know.
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Actually, I had a clue!
I just searhed YouTube for the two songtitles and found this:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6ZqPLxCDLs4&feature=related
Didn't know the guy's name, but I had definitely heard the song before. Sounds great. (Btw, saw the movie The Descendants with George Clooney recently. Lots of great Hawaiian music.)
The above video is only the "Somewhere Over The Rainbow" portion from IK's funeral in 1997. Over 10,000 people attended his funeral. He is a state treasure and idol in Hawaii to this day. You can see his ashes being scattered in the ocean with thousands of people celebrating at around the 2:40 mark. So sad. I along with hundreds of thousands of other's took up the ukulele because of IK.
This below link is a recording of IK's version of "Somewhere Over The Rainbow/What A Wonderful World" medley. IMHO the best arrangement and performance of the songs ever. So simple and powerful - uke and voice alone. Enjoy.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=V1sj2gQJIKI
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I e-mailed Chris's record company, this is what they said:
Hi James,
Chris is actually signed to Decca Records in the UK. Decca will be releasing the album in your market although I have not been given a release date yet. We'll definitely make an announcement once we know. Until then you'll have to pick the CD up as an import.
All the best,
Archie Castillo
The Colomby Group
I checked the Decca website, and It's not on their list for May release.
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Thanks for your inquiry and your info.
I'm waiting for a european release too.
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Just got John Mayers new 'Americana' cd - its cool, and Botti has a nice intro spot on one song.
All these collaborations, must be nice being brilliant?
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Loving John Mayers new album ' Born & Raised'
A cross between Dylan, Neil Young, Jackson Browne &
Ryan Adams. Great album artwork too.
Cheers. BBB
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Loving John Mayers new album ' Born & Raised'
A cross between Dylan, Neil Young, Jackson Browne &
Ryan Adams. Great album artwork too.
Cheers. BBB
artwork that a friend of a friend of yours made, right? :-)
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Just got John Mayers new 'Americana' cd - its cool, and Botti has a nice intro spot on one song.
All these collaborations, must be nice being brilliant?
Yes, Walt Grace... is a great song. Nice storytelling :)
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Loving John Mayers new album ' Born & Raised'
A cross between Dylan, Neil Young, Jackson Browne &
Ryan Adams. Great album artwork too.
Cheers. BBB
Agreed. Very country blues. Cool songwriting and production.
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Loving John Mayers new album ' Born & Raised'
A cross between Dylan, Neil Young, Jackson Browne &
Ryan Adams. Great album artwork too.
Cheers. BBB
artwork that a friend of a friend of yours made, right? :-)
Yeah, apparently so. I'm gonna have to delve deeper.
It's a small world. :)
Cheers. BBB
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Yes, Walt Grace... is a great song. Nice storytelling :)
Absolutely, very Knopfler like - a slice of history and a character relationship. Great tune too!
We should start a Mayer thread before someone gets mad! ::)
I really like this album!
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Mayer is such a talented guy. Amazing player. Just can't stand his personality. Really cocky person. Saw an interview with him, Doyle Bramhall (?) and Derek Trucks, and the contrast between Mayer and Trucks, the epitome of meekness, was indescribable.
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I looked up "Walt Grace....." on YT and lo and behold, there was the whole of the album "Born and Raised" ! This happened with the Chris Botti album "Impressions" too. I know it states that if you like this song, it is available to buy from itunes, but I'm sure there are many who would just listen or even download straight from YT. I wonder what the artists feel about this, because it can't be in their interest, surely. :-\
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What A Wonderful World is finally available to buy on iTunes ! :)
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It's still not in the UK iTunes :(
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And you can buy/download it at the homepage of Chris Botti...I think... I
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ah - Louis Knopfler
;)
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Doesn't Louis Armstrong look like Uncle Ben? Wonder if he likes his sauces too... ???
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It doesnt makes any sense that the CD costs $10.99 and the Digital Album
$9.99...
When you release a cd you have to cover the plastic of the cd, the printing of the artwork, the distribution etc etc etc
You save all of that when you sell it digitally...
How in earth is only 1 dollar cheaper?
I don
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And you can buy/download it at the homepage of Chris Botti...I think... I
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It doesnt makes any sense that the CD costs $10.99 and the Digital Album
$9.99...
When you release a cd you have to cover the plastic of the cd, the printing of the artwork, the distribution etc etc etc
You save all of that when you sell it digitally...
How in earth is only 1 dollar cheaper?
I don
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And you can buy/download it at the homepage of Chris Botti...I think... I
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The digital market is a big mess...
You can order a cd from the US to Spain but you can download a mp3 from a shop located there...
Ok, so if this is how they fight piracy, they are loosing the fight because they shot their own feet...