A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Jackal on April 26, 2012, 10:16:48 AM
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Isabella Knopfler wrote on Facebook that her cousin is Lulu Kennedy (fashion entrepreneur Lulu Kennedy, not singer Lulu Kennedy-Cairns). Lulu was born in Newcastle in 1969 (this is all official information) and "hippies" for parents.
Anyone knows how Lulu is related to Mark? Or is she on Kitty's side of the family?
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Mark's sister, Ruth's married name is Kennedy, so presumably Lulu is Ruth's daughter and, therefore, Isabella's cousin. :)
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Ah, didn't know that. Well, there you go. One more piece in the puzzle.
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Lulu:
(http://www.oliviabeasley.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Lulu_Kennedy.jpg)
From her Twitter posting:
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/452700039.jpg?key=640480&Expires=1335430292&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=JeHDmh~5sWHvss0FqdFhIKrkR7DSOjR9BEUML3SrTC8Btz8iSxCUIgRe3VbB2gnvFdzuc-7tjyM3cAyqHJRdkoJQS5TWZedKThRWmNHmoCQakRyemWoSli0lb~WQQp2TQsRLRMLcs~nw05Y9IRza3OEF26i~yvoiuUmMyrGK0aw_)
Watching my Uncle Mark at Hammersmith Apollo play Brothers in Arms...awww..xx
http://twitpic.com/7hixl3 (http://twitpic.com/7hixl3)
Nice :)
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Thanks, Jackal! I've just been googling Lulu MBE and I had no idea she was so eminent in the world of fashion! 8)
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Talented family. Understatement.
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http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/columns/olivia-bergin/TMG9160832/Fashion-pioneer-Lulu-Kennedy-collects-MBE-at-Buckingham-Palace.html (http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/columns/olivia-bergin/TMG9160832/Fashion-pioneer-Lulu-Kennedy-collects-MBE-at-Buckingham-Palace.html)
http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/news-features/TMG8711984/Lulu-Kennedy-fashions-fairy-godmother.html (http://fashion.telegraph.co.uk/news-features/TMG8711984/Lulu-Kennedy-fashions-fairy-godmother.html)
reading this second article, I don't know why, came to my mind "early bird" ;D
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Lulu:
(http://www.oliviabeasley.com/blog/wp-content/uploads/2010/08/Lulu_Kennedy.jpg)
From her Twitter posting:
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/452700039.jpg?key=640480&Expires=1335430292&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=JeHDmh~5sWHvss0FqdFhIKrkR7DSOjR9BEUML3SrTC8Btz8iSxCUIgRe3VbB2gnvFdzuc-7tjyM3cAyqHJRdkoJQS5TWZedKThRWmNHmoCQakRyemWoSli0lb~WQQp2TQsRLRMLcs~nw05Y9IRza3OEF26i~yvoiuUmMyrGK0aw_)
Watching my Uncle Mark at Hammersmith Apollo play Brothers in Arms...awww..xx
http://twitpic.com/7hixl3 (http://twitpic.com/7hixl3)
Nice :)
She took pictures... What about the recording policy ? ::)
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pretty girl.
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pretty girl.
+1
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+10 i say, hot bird.
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/521590695.jpg?key=640480&Expires=1335474147&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=owKX3HLsKoTn4yr1ee8dNnaqqHsgP5cfoEnuJsY7zNweoXiG1zWDwi4m0drxGsUwTpX4jCh73AnKFbxOHX0D4gL4eJu5jkFaxQ0j9r527ZzdESH12dxeqzKo6hsJ81phdagAea9rF9k3VJcg~bepPBsqW-hIsFZOqQAcbjEqjhc_)
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would this be about Mark's mum??
(http://d3j5vwomefv46c.cloudfront.net/photos/large/426845367.jpg?key=640480&Expires=1335475274&Key-Pair-Id=APKAIYVGSUJFNRFZBBTA&Signature=nSDjmfZKOkwfhy4TU8s~dROJdbYUCw4779Yf05mqgmiERBzvyXt2kyZE8pU6wBId~o-WCn2FoXkN23WlDt4D5-0AukxylWSyrP1JT7EDJWwl0e~RuQEYm9tKH6FKgj3f~HYwafHuNH1dEX5ZARdWlgzQmSy-2jB3A0FZaAM0I8M_)
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sorry, the text going with it from lulu's tweets:
Here's what I thought my Gran needed for her 85th birthday
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Could be her father's mother she is talking about? I remember that Mark's mum's birthday was the same day as the Variety Club presentation - October.
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why are those pics gone?
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Sometimes is so easy to find some personal information...
http://lostquilt.com/index.php/2007/status/missing/lovely-red-flower-garden/ (http://lostquilt.com/index.php/2007/status/missing/lovely-red-flower-garden/)
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why do people make sites for
"Dedicated to displaying lost and stolen quilts and to providing information on protecting quilts"
????
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is this the same ruth?
http://www.google.de/imgres?hl=de&sa=X&rls=com.microsoft:de&biw=1441&bih=656&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnso&tbnid=lMzFctA-efL5cM:&imgrefurl=http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/bruce-dundas-and-ruth-kennedy-attend-the-book-launch-party-news-photo/91312184&docid=aKE5RbxDKHjE3M&imgurl=http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/91312184.jpg%253Fv%253D1%2526c%253DIWSAsset%2526k%253D2%2526d%253D77BFBA49EF878921CC759DF4EBAC47D0773A34053FF81258927840F7006DDDAF06AB24734040D226&w=327&h=594&ei=KWiaT4vzFaHP4QSkk-T5Dg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1196&vpy=238&dur=7645&hovh=303&hovw=166&tx=150&ty=221&sig=108246776612488916970&page=2&tbnh=158&tbnw=90&start=24&ndsp=31&ved=1t:429,r:22,s:24,i:168
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she seems to be quite the quilt maker:
http://cynchronicity.files.wordpress.com/2010/08/gee33.jpg
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Ruth Kennedy (Mark's sister) would be 65 yo now - so unless she is particularly youthful, I doubt that's the same person.
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hard to look on google images if you have no clue. especially as there seem to be a gazillion Ruth Kennedy's
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The label on the quilt says RK 1972, but the person above looks too young imo to be Lulu's mother!
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And she bears no resemblence to Mark and David (eyes, nose, mouth in particular).
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is this the same ruth?
http://www.google.de/imgres?hl=de&sa=X&rls=com.microsoft:de&biw=1441&bih=656&tbm=isch&prmd=imvnso&tbnid=lMzFctA-efL5cM:&imgrefurl=http://www.gettyimages.com/detail/news-photo/bruce-dundas-and-ruth-kennedy-attend-the-book-launch-party-news-photo/91312184&docid=aKE5RbxDKHjE3M&imgurl=http://cache1.asset-cache.net/xc/91312184.jpg%253Fv%253D1%2526c%253DIWSAsset%2526k%253D2%2526d%253D77BFBA49EF878921CC759DF4EBAC47D0773A34053FF81258927840F7006DDDAF06AB24734040D226&w=327&h=594&ei=KWiaT4vzFaHP4QSkk-T5Dg&zoom=1&iact=hc&vpx=1196&vpy=238&dur=7645&hovh=303&hovw=166&tx=150&ty=221&sig=108246776612488916970&page=2&tbnh=158&tbnw=90&start=24&ndsp=31&ved=1t:429,r:22,s:24,i:168
The Ruth Kennedy above is married to Paul Dundas, also pictured and they have a small son, so although there is mention of interior design, etc, it is definitely nothing to do with MK's family! This person looks even younger than Lulu, who would be her daughter! ::)
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mm, no,not younger then Lulu AT all. i started to like lulu :-)
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I hope I will not cause anger, talking about Ruth, as the main subject is "Lulu Kennedy" ;)
I just want to say that I always felt strange that Ruth isn't mentionned (even one word) in the Oldfield's book.
Of course, it's in the private domain for the Knopfler family, but when Oldfield talks about the 2 Knopfler brothers, their birthdate, their origin, he coould have wrote just a line about their sister ?
maybe Mark asked him to not write even 1 word about her ?
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Since Lulu Kennedy is Ruth
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I think it's OK to divert from the original topic, especially if there's not much to add to the original topic. If the original topic is still hot, I think we could be better at returning to it. So, when we make a digression, we should end the post with something like "sorry, back to the topic". But this also the editors' job, and I must say they have been very absent for the last year or so.
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The thing about this topic is that we get to know more about MK family...
We have:
Ex-wife: Lourdes Salomone and their sons Joe and Ben
Wife Kitty and their daughters Isabella and Katya
Brother David, that has some kids that I dont know, and ex wife (Anna) and a girlfriend (Cant remember his name, its in facebook)
Sister Ruth, that has a daughter, Lulu.
From a logical distance, is nice to know some of this things, as it makes MK (at least for me) looks more like a real person and not just a famous musician :)
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[quote author=Jean-Fran
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Ex-wife: Lourdes Salomone and their sons Joe and Ben
Mark has another ex-wife, his first one, the one who gave him the inspiration for most of the 1st DS album (water of love, setting me up, six blade knife) and I think also where do you think you're going and follow me home
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[quote author=Jean-Fran
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[quote author=Jean-Fran
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Yes I posted the article about Kathy's son - I still have the article somewhere, it was on the Thomas Gygax site and was from The Daily Mail on March 1st 1997. The son was called Samuel Knopfler, but later changed to Webster - the father's name.
In fact the link is still there on this page:
http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php/topic,350.30.html
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Yes I posted the article about Kathy's son - I still have the article somewhere, it was on the Thomas Gygax site and was from The Daily Mail on March 1st 1997. The son was called Samuel Knopfler, but later changed to Webster - the father's name.
In fact the link is still there on this page:
http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php/topic,350.30.html
Did I mention that I love this forum?
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Yes I posted the article about Kathy's son - I still have the article somewhere, it was on the Thomas Gygax site and was from The Daily Mail on March 1st 1997. The son was called Samuel Knopfler, but later changed to Webster - the father's name.
In fact the link is still there on this page:
http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php/topic,350.30.html
Oh, in that thread only one of the links works, looks like a three pages document... Is there any way to get the whole thing?
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I'm sure I posted the whole thing, but here is the missing part:
"On Valentine's Day, in a secret ceremony on Barbados, attended only by his sons and a couple of friends, he tied the knot for the third time, to his girlfriend of four years, Kitty Aldridge. Like him, Aldridge is no stranger to broken relationships. Her first marriage, to South African director and Left-wing activist Neal Sundstrom, in many ways resembled the fated idealism of Mark and Kathy's.
Kitty and Neal dreamed of making political movies about South Africa - but in the late eighties, no one was interested. They put up their house and car as security for the production and lost the lot when it bombed. Unsurprisingly, the marriage crumbled. Since then Kitty has risen to professional prominence by playing the lead female role in the BBC's adaptation of Michael Dobb's acclaimed political thriller To Play the King. And she has lived with Knopfler, whom she met through racing driver Alain de Cadenet, one of the rock star's best friends, in 1991. The couple are well suited. Like Knopfler, Kitty is understated. She dresses grungily and hates giving interviews. The daughter of middle-class parents, who worked in oil, her friends tend to be bright, upper middle-class intellectuals, such as writer Esther Freud and the Earl of Lonsdale's niece, Camilla Lowther. They live in Knopfler's Chelsea mansion and when they walk around the streets no one recognises them. 'Once', jokes his manager Ed Bicknell, 'a woman came up to him and said "You look just like Mark Knopfler". He turned round and, laughingly, said "I wish I had his money"'. One wonders, naturally, whether that wish is now echoed by Kathy Webster, who refuses to talk of her first marriage. For a long time, it is said, she did not even tell Sam about Mark. But then it is perhaps no good for either of them to dwell on the past. For if Kathy hadn't betrayed him, Romeo and Juliet and the millions that it made for Mark Knopfler and Dire Straits might never have been."
I would take all of that article with a pinch of salt, because I think there are many inaccuracies and it 's just typical tabloid journalism.
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Good grief, that is awful writing.
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Very awful style, but the story is quite interesting as that part in MK
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jbaent, I'm sure I'm telling you the obvious, but when you clicked on to the divshare link, there was a "previous" page. ;D I can type the whole thing out for you, if you wish and brush up on my typing skills! :lol
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jbaent, I'm sure I'm telling you the obvious, but when you clicked on to the divshare link, there was a "previous" page. ;D I can type the whole thing out for you, if you wish and brush up on my typing skills! :lol
Oh yes, but there are two pages there, and the document says 2 of 3, and obviously it ends suddenly, so there is something more...
However, I was asking for the text file, and what its in the divshare file is not a text but an image.
Nevermind, I dont want you to write it for me. If you already done that in the past and remember where, perfect, if not, I
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jbaent, The missing part is what I posted above, but I can type it all if you wish.
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jbaent, The missing part is what I posted above, but I can type it all if you wish.
No, please don
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Looking back to the topic...
Any picture of MK with Lulu, or Ruth?
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Only the picture of MK and Ruth and their parents as seen on "Mark Knopfler - A Life in Songs" when they were babies! ;D
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I found this interview with Lulu http://www.thevine.com.au/fashion/collections/lulu-kennedy-first-lady-of-london-fashion/ (http://www.thevine.com.au/fashion/collections/lulu-kennedy-first-lady-of-london-fashion/)
Quite interesting part:
Why move back to England?
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Mothers day everywhere Or so IT seems, wonder if marky cut The roast :
Epic roast at my mums, all the cousins lying flat on the floor 'being crumbs' to recover. I love them! cc@issyknopfler