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Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Jules on April 27, 2012, 11:34:37 AM

Title: Summers coming my way
Post by: Jules on April 27, 2012, 11:34:37 AM
I never read this information about the first demo recorded by MK:

In April 1970, while living in Leeds, Knopfler recorded a demo disk of an original song he'd written, "Summer's Coming My Way". The recording included Mark Knopfler (guitar and vocals), Steve Phillips (second guitar), Dave Johnson (bass), and Paul Granger (percussion). Johnson, Granger, and vocalist Mick Dewhirst played with Mark in the band Silverheels.

It comes from here: http://wn.com/Mark_Knopfler (http://wn.com/Mark_Knopfler) click biography
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: Pottel on April 27, 2012, 11:45:08 AM
silverheels?
jeez, hail to the innerweb...
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: Jules on April 27, 2012, 11:47:48 AM
Interesting info for the MK bio in AMIT, isnt it?
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Post by: Pottel on April 27, 2012, 11:53:18 AM
yo. knopflerized? ou etes-vous?  :lol :lol
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Post by: dmg on April 27, 2012, 01:10:36 PM
Silverheels.  Sounds kinda country!  Reminds me of spurs that cowboys wear, perhaps an indication to the type of music they perform. :-\
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: Jackal on April 27, 2012, 01:18:07 PM
They probably chose the name on the spur of the moment. You know how young guns are.
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: dmg on April 27, 2012, 01:22:55 PM
They probably chose the name on the spur of the moment. You know how young guns are.
:disbelief
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Post by: twm on April 27, 2012, 03:31:27 PM
Silverheels - oh, my youth!

Jay Silverheels was the actor who played The Lone Ranger's sidekick in a cowboy series of that name in the early days of (black and white) television in Britain.

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Jay_Silverheels

"Hi, yo, Silver! Awa-a-a-a-a-y", said the Lone Ranger at the end of each episode, as the  William Tell Overture thundered away and a voice-over uttered the immortal words, "Who was that masked man anyway?"

Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: Best Brown Baggies on April 27, 2012, 09:56:46 PM
Howz on earth did us Knopfler nuts never hear of this news before?
I'd heard of the Duolin String Pickers, Brewers Droop & Cafe Racers, but never Silverheels!

Cheers. BBB
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: dmg on April 27, 2012, 11:29:04 PM
Howz on earth did us Knopfler nuts never hear of this news before?
I'd heard of the Duolin String Pickers, Brewers Droop & Cafe Racers, but never Silverheels!

Cheers. BBB


Do you feel as ashamed as I do?  I'm going back to MK school! ;)
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: koobaa on April 28, 2012, 03:05:02 AM
This news has been around for a good while. Summer's coming my way is mentioned in the official MK News biography for example. Not sure, but I think Oldfield also mentions it in his book? These sources didn't mention the name Silverheels though. Nevertheless, it would be cool to hear it. The recording must collect dust somewhere.

Here's a little quote from MK News biography:
While living in Leeds Mark made his first record. It was recorded in a room that had been converted into studio in a house in Pudsey. The song was called Summer's Coming My Way and it featured Steve Phillips on twelve-string guitar.
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: JF on May 02, 2012, 10:22:56 AM
Here is what I found in Oldfield's book (p.44 on the french edition) :


Around the same time (note from JF :the previous page from the book is about Mark and Sue hercombe, so the "around the same time" isn't very accurate), Mark was able to make a record. Dave: "a guy who did the markets, I believe, paid Mark to go to London to record a demo. They went into a real studio and record it in half an hour, an hour. It was never released, I think no one has ever done anything with it, either, it just happened. He never claimed it to be of superior quality, it was a demo. A really good song called "summer's coming my way", good for its time. Given what it was and what he had in hands, it was really a brave effort. He was still really in the folk clubs in the time ".

sorry for the bad translation, I used Google and corrected what I can, in order to be the closer to the book
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: Jules on May 02, 2012, 11:15:57 AM
I know that MK has many good new songs, but I wonder why he doesn't record that old songs he has from that past. I
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: Jackal on May 02, 2012, 11:53:27 AM
Jbaent,

If he's not even happy about many of the really good songs he has released, you can imagine what he thinks of unreleased songs AND songs that were written in his youth.
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: Jules on May 02, 2012, 02:06:13 PM
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Post by: ingridswing on May 02, 2012, 08:52:30 PM
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Post by: Jules on May 03, 2012, 08:13:38 AM
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Post by: Pottel on May 03, 2012, 08:54:54 AM
I know that MK has many good new songs, but I wonder why he doesn't record that old songs he has from that past. I
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: Jules on May 03, 2012, 09:27:08 AM
I know that MK has many good new songs, but I wonder why he doesn't record that old songs he has from that past. I
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: vgonis on October 13, 2012, 08:19:51 PM
I know that MK has many good new songs, but I wonder why he doesn't record that old songs he has from that past. I
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: nababo on October 13, 2012, 09:30:50 PM
Sinchronicity. We were just talking about this song in this topic (http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php/topic,2731.msg58398.html#msg58398), about Steve Phillips...
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: vgonis on October 13, 2012, 09:54:21 PM
Nababo, all the credit to  you!I missed it because of intense 14 hour work back then. I saw your post and thought that it deserves more views!
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: nababo on October 14, 2012, 01:54:10 AM
Nababo, all the credit to  you!I missed it because of intense 14 hour work back then. I saw your post and thought that it deserves more views!

 8) Oh, no, not really. Thanks for the kind comment.

I do like your effots in bringing back interesting topics like this one.
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: MusicGirl1 on October 15, 2012, 11:59:46 AM
I know that MK has many good new songs, but I wonder why he doesn't record that old songs he has from that past. I
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: allen on October 15, 2012, 01:35:32 PM
In my opinion, this song was not totally written by Mark, so there's no eager demand that Mark releases it.  If this song was more Steve written than Mark written, maybe we could wait until one day Steve releases it, just as what he did with the Duolian String things. 
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: JeroenvG on October 15, 2012, 04:44:02 PM
I even remember Mark did played it in some interview. But I can't remember which one.
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Post by: Vesper on October 15, 2012, 06:40:44 PM
I even remember Mark did played it in some interview. But I can't remember which one.

The interview that also involves Suse Hercombes mother?
I couldn't find it so didn't check it
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: allen on October 16, 2012, 10:36:46 AM
I even remember Mark did played it in some interview. But I can't remember which one.

The interview that also involves Suse Hercombes mother?
I couldn't find it so didn't check it

Not that video.  Only part of Chilly wind was played in that show.  And it was Tore Pa Sporet, NRK1, Trondheim, Norway, 17th October 2002. 
http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/rpdpromotour2_dvd.htm

I didn't know Summers coming my way was ever played in some interview.  Can someone confirm it?

Wishes
Allen
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: Jules on October 16, 2012, 07:01:06 PM
I even remember Mark did played it in some interview. But I can't remember which one.

The interview that also involves Suse Hercombes mother?
I couldn't find it so didn't check it

Not that video.  Only part of Chilly wind was played in that show.  And it was Tore Pa Sporet, NRK1, Trondheim, Norway, 17th October 2002. 
http://www.oneverybootleg.nl/rpdpromotour2_dvd.htm

I didn't know Summers coming my way was ever played in some interview.  Can someone confirm it?

Wishes
Allen

As far as I recall, NO.

The one played in one interview was Chilly wind, a folk song played by MK and Sue Herncombe.
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: Fieneke2 on October 16, 2012, 10:14:12 PM
Here is the interview of Mark for Norwegian TV in 2002 where they talk about Susan Hercombe. There is also that little piece of the song Chilly Wind which sound beautiful!

 Q3bmh-uLKUE

I hope you all like to watch and listen! ;D

Fieneke
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: Vesper on October 16, 2012, 11:45:22 PM
Thanks for sharing Fieneke!
I really love this interview because Mark looks really trilled by the message of Mary!
Real feelings!
You think he visited her?
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: nababo on October 17, 2012, 12:35:41 AM
Very nice interview! Personal and informative at the same time. Loved Sue Hercobe's mother part and John Illsley's mention. This horizontal/vertical meeting was in John and David's flat, wasn't it?
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: Fieneke2 on October 17, 2012, 09:53:38 PM
Thanks for sharing Fieneke! I really love this interview because Mark looks really trilled by the message of Mary!
Real feelings! You think he visited her?

You are welcome Klaas!  :lol

I think in his heart he would like to visit her when he is nearby, but that he won't have time for that.
There are so many people that came on his path all these years! .......How often do we have people or
co-workers from the past we like to meet again, but at a certain point we move on and don't take the step
to call or visit them!  ;)

Nababo I don't know the answer, perhaps somebody else!

Fieneke
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: nababo on October 17, 2012, 11:06:09 PM
And by the way, does anybody know what happened with Sue Hercombe? Did I mishear or she died 19 years ago? Is that?
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: JF on October 19, 2012, 08:55:43 AM
Very nice interview! Personal and informative at the same time. Loved Sue Hercobe's mother part and John Illsley's mention. This horizontal/vertical meeting was in John and David's flat, wasn't it?

Yes it's explained in the Oldfield's book
Title: Re: Summers coming my way
Post by: MusicGirl1 on October 24, 2012, 09:46:39 AM
Here is the interview of Mark for Norwegian TV in 2002 where they talk about Susan Hercombe. There is also that little piece of the song Chilly Wind which sound beautiful!

 Q3bmh-uLKUE

I hope you all like to watch and listen! ;D

Fieneke

Fieneke, what a nice interview. It's actually quite personal. The story about Susan and her mom saying these nice words to Mark was very sweet.
Had to laugh about Mark meeting John Ilsley and John finding Mark asleep on the floor with his guitar lying across him (A story that also is mentioned in the Guitar Stories thing)

The story about Mark teaching Susan how to do finger picking on the guitar was so nice. Made me think, mostly about what I missed out on, when I was learning to play the guitar. I was also in high school and was something like 14 years old. Only....., I was in high school in the early 90's and it was Hip Hop, rap and modern dance music that became more and more popular and so a girl wanting to learn to play the guitar was not considered cool at all. So there certainly weren't any like minded class mates.

LOL! It would have been nice, if back then I could have found myself a class mate to share my musical hobby with. I sure am glad I did stick to playing the guitar and playing with my music school band "No Excuses" is still a lot of fun to do. And..., I will remember Marks words at the end of Guitar Stories about how your guitar can be be a friend all your life and no matter what you should simply stick to it. I'm glad I pulled through, even if others thought playing the guitar was a silly thing to do. LOL! Oh well..., now I can say it's their loss.

Maaike