A Mark In Time
Previous Albums => Privateering (2012) => Topic started by: Jules on August 07, 2012, 10:19:08 AM
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The firsts interviews are seeing the light of day
(http://www.uncut.co.uk/sites/default/files/2012/07/september-cover.jpg)
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Cool, I'll take a look at that when I go out later.
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Cool !!! It's an exciting few months, new albums from MK and Bob..
Hope Mark gets lots of interview space.
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Fantastic ! Maybe someone could scan it or write about it here ? That would be great !!! I`m asking myself why the title is about "Brothers in Arms" and not Privateering...well, we will see.....
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I always await Uncut Magazine's reviews with great trepidation - they are more often than not, less than enthusiastic.
This, prior to Shangri-la!
Mark Knopfler - Shangri-La
The only consolation in Brothers in Arms' planet-conquering weight was the way it crushed Dire Straits, too, leaving them capable of only one limp follow-up before Knopfler retreated to a low-key solo career. Shangri-La should be more appealing, steeped as it is in pulp narratives and mid-century Americana: Sonny Liston and McDonald's founder Ray Kroc are featured, and "Don't Crash The Ambulance", seemingly set down a Cold War missile silo, gets the hardboiled lingo just right. But mostly it's mannered, played with tepid, mid-paced, life-draining politeness: more James Last than James Ellroy.
Rating: 2 / 10
Maybe they will be more enthusiastic this time! Here's hoping! ;)
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I've just read it. Some old bits (as you can imagine), but there are pieces of info that are quite surprising. Much more personal than usual. Mark even said he's been thinking of putting "Iron Hand" back into the setlist!
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I've just read it. Some old bits (as you can imagine), but there are pieces of info that are quite surprising. Much more personal than usual. Mark even said he's been thinking of putting "Iron Hand" back into the setlist!
Is there a review?
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I've just read it. Some old bits (as you can imagine), but there are pieces of info that are quite surprising. Much more personal than usual. Mark even said he's been thinking of putting "Iron Hand" back into the setlist!
Is there a review?
Not that I could spot. Only a few references to it.
There's a picture of Mark though, posing in a pub. There's a pint of beer and cool sunglasses on the table, and Mark is wearing a black blazer and a black shirt with three buttons opened. They've tried to create a very cool image, but the shirt is clearly a little tight, so there's a little opening where you see his belly. Classy! Haha!
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a scan anyone?? pppp plssss??
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I've just read it. Some old bits (as you can imagine), but there are pieces of info that are quite surprising. Much more personal than usual. Mark even said he's been thinking of putting "Iron Hand" back into the setlist!
Is there a review?
Not that I could spot. Only a few references to it.
There's a picture of Mark though, posing in a pub. There's a pint of beer and cool sunglasses on the table, and Mark is wearing a black blazer and a black shirt with three buttons opened. They've tried to create a very cool image, but the shirt is clearly a little tight, so there's a little opening where you see his belly. Classy! Haha!
Strange, I can't quite picture Mark in a blazer!
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http://filepost.com/files/44b5b67c/UNCUT_2012-09.pdf
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Thank you very much. I didn't realise that "Today is OK" is about Sonny Liston.
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Yes, it was a good read, nice to see Mark getting 4 or 5 pages for a change, instead of a little box. I also didn't see a review of the new album, but I'm so excited to hear it, unlike others I have not hear any of it except Redbud Tree, I don't want to ruin my listening experience on a laptop, when I have
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I have the snippets in my car (nice JBL-system running there :)) and the sound from the snippets is really ok. Not HD or so, but pretty good.
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http://filepost.com/files/44b5b67c/UNCUT_2012-09.pdf
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Thanks a bunch!
God I love this forum ;D
edit: haha, one of the Captcha words were "FLETCHER" - spooky
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Interesting that Iron Hand may get the nod once again!
Would sound wonderful with the band and the qualities of McGoldrick and McCusker.
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Interesting that Iron Hand may get the nod once again!
Would sound wonderful with the band and the qualities of McGoldrick and McCusker.
Nice song but not one that would really excite me. Now OES - that is another kettle of fish entirely... :P
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can't get that friggin download to work...dropbox anyone?
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http://filepost.com/files/44b5b67c/UNCUT_2012-09.pdf
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thanks, I won`t tell anybody ;), its`s great to have it and read it
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seen the article by mark on the deep purple show? noticed the picture of a man next to the text? recognised the man? :-)
good article.
also the part on mark/david is short but interesting.
thnx to my dutch friend who sent it to me.
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seen the article by mark on the deep purple show? noticed the picture of a man next to the text? recognised the man? :-)
good article.
also the part on mark/david is short but interesting.
thnx to my dutch friend who sent it to me.
That's Steve Phillips!
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well spotted :-)
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http://filepost.com/files/44b5b67c/UNCUT_2012-09.pdf
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Thank you
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Thanks for the link.
I really like Iron Hand, would love to hear it done again :)
Eagerly awaiting some downloads to read/hear some more tantalizing info!
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Thank you. The photo by Fabio Lovino. Is it from new press pack? Universal Music France also has the photo from the same "pub"
(http://static.universalmusic.fr/images/data/cache/news/000/002/1217-resizeAndCrop-190x140.jpg)
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Some nicely written stuff, thanks for the article link - I will have to buy the magazine anyway! I hope there are more interviews in other publications that have a bit more depth like this one.
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First time I've read Uncut. This issue had a lot of goodies, including some nice stuff on Paul Simon and Ry Cooder. Lots of good album reviews.
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Nice article... although I'm not sure the interviewer was fully appreciative of Knopfler's answers and/or viewpoints on a few topics. Still a great read, and I appreciate the link - not sure how readily available 'Uncut' is down here in Australia.
Thanks again!
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Is there not any code to add a pdf file inserted, and read the interview, or would it be politically wrong?
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seen the article by mark on the deep purple show? noticed the picture of a man next to the text? recognised the man? :-)
good article.
also the part on mark/david is short but interesting.
thnx to my dutch friend who sent it to me.
OMG! Mark doing a review of a Purple show? Is this real or what???!!! How maNY freakin times i looked for a real link between my 2 favorite artists and finally this!This is for the history books! LOL. Anyone can read what he wrote cause i cant.....I just can understand the title......
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If anyone has a link to a review of Deep Purple by MK I would love to check it out, how intriguing!
:)
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The next issue of Uncut will probably have a Privateering review. It'll be interesting to see what they think of that. The old Shangri-La review they did was ridiculous - it's one of his best albums ever (Dire Straits included), I think.
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The next issue of Uncut will probably have a Privateering review. It'll be interesting to see what they think of that. The old Shangri-La review they did was ridiculous - it's one of his best albums ever (Dire Straits included), I think.
I think it was his worst one.
Until KTGC came out.
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The next issue of Uncut will probably have a Privateering review. It'll be interesting to see what they think of that. The old Shangri-La review they did was ridiculous - it's one of his best albums ever (Dire Straits included), I think.
I think it was his worst one.
Until KTGC came out.
Shangri-la is still one of my favourites and didn't deserve 2/10 from Uncut! There are so many beautiful songs on that album.
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The next issue of Uncut will probably have a Privateering review. It'll be interesting to see what they think of that. The old Shangri-La review they did was ridiculous - it's one of his best albums ever (Dire Straits included), I think.
Until KTGC came out.
I fully agree! :disbelief
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I still enjoy listening to KTGC too! :)
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i NEVER liked KTGC. except for maybe 2 or 3 songs which i kinda like. my biggest dissapointment
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Shangri-La is one of my favorites, KTGC is the last in my list (it's the one with the less knopflerian sound)
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Well, I like KTGC, especially the Walzes, and there are some on it I think. And I LOVE PTM. But my favourite album of DS is OES (especially Fade to black) , and I know a lot people who say that this is the worst album of DS...maybe my taste is just different....
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no, i love OES too. how long, my parties, a lot of people hate those, i love them. also the b-sides...brilliant..
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Now when you mention the titles, Pottel, I HAVE to listen to it this evening, absolutely ;D
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Mona, Fade To Black / Bluebird... ;)
I understand your affinity...
Interesting thoughts, and astonishing ones: Sorry, folks, but:
5:15 am, Boom, Like That, Sucker Row, Back To Tupelo, Song For Sonny Liston, Paraguaaaaaay, Donegan's Gone are a lot of great songs, which can't make Shangri-La a bad album from my point of view! Whereas KTGC is really an exceptional... other take on his music than usual... I rarely listen to it as a complete album, but some songs are nice, f.e. We Can Get Wild, and.... and.... hmmm... ??? ::)
LE
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Mona, Fade To Black / Bluebird... ;)
I understand your affinity...
Interesting thoughts, and astonishing ones: Sorry, folks, but:
5:15 am, Boom, Like That, Sucker Row, Back To Tupelo, Song For Sonny Liston, Paraguaaaaaay, Donegan's Gone are a lot of great songs, which can't make Shangri-La a bad album from my point of view! Whereas KTGC is really an exceptional... other take on his music than usual... I rarely listen to it as a complete album, but some songs are nice, f.e. We Can Get Wild, and.... and.... hmmm... ??? ::)
LE
Madame Geneva's, behind with the rent, punish the monkey, let it al go, in the sky ;)
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Mona, Fade To Black / Bluebird... ;)
I understand your affinity...
LE
Yesssss,
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seen the article by mark on the deep purple show? noticed the picture of a man next to the text? recognised the man? :-)
good article.
also the part on mark/david is short but interesting.
thnx to my dutch friend who sent it to me.
OMG! Mark doing a review of a Purple show? Is this real or what???!!! How maNY freakin times i looked for a real link between my 2 favorite artists and finally this!This is for the history books! LOL. Anyone can read what he wrote cause i cant.....I just can understand the title......
So your quest is over ferguitar! Sorry that Jon Lord died! He will be missed.
i NEVER liked KTGC. except for maybe 2 or 3 songs which i kinda like. my biggest dissapointment
I have dared to state this on another thread and Rollergirl and (I think) Val, almost crucified me. I listened to it repeatedly two days in a row, and I kind of changed my opinion. It is not such a bad album, but still on the bottom of my list. (except if you count ATR with Emyllou Harris)
By the way, I was listening to Punish the monkey on the radio the other day, and the intro sounded much like "On the beach" by Chris Rea. Anyone else spotted the resemblance?
About OES, it is the one that I heard as a fan upon it's release, so it was the one that gave me the biggest thrill. Still believe that a 45 minute album without the 3 hit singles (CE,The bug, HF, would be much much better. I just love Planet of NO, and the rest is such a mixture of different styles that you simply can't get bored.
Shangri La was another first for me. Found a promo of it 2 weeks before its official release day in London and heard it in the apartment the same afternoon, after walking from Euston to the Battersea plant and back again from the other side of Thames, with stops at the palace and Brixton and many other places that I heard from songs. I don't know if I went by Abbey road that day... It is however 3rd after TRD and STP.
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seen the article by mark on the deep purple show? noticed the picture of a man next to the text? recognised the man? :-)
good article.
also the part on mark/david is short but interesting.
thnx to my dutch friend who sent it to me.
OMG! Mark doing a review of a Purple show? Is this real or what???!!! How maNY freakin times i looked for a real link between my 2 favorite artists and finally this!This is for the history books! LOL. Anyone can read what he wrote cause i cant.....I just can understand the title......
So your quest is over ferguitar! Sorry that Jon Lord died! He will be missed.
i NEVER liked KTGC. except for maybe 2 or 3 songs which i kinda like. my biggest dissapointment
Yes, but i cant understand the article! For the title its a positive review......Maybe some kind person here with better vision could transcribe it.......... ;D
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Great show from Purple and Family
The Family and Purple concert at St. George's Hall, Bradford on Sunday, really did come up to expectations.
DP belted out their usual stupefying act with Richie Blackmore's roasting solos and Jon Lord's magnificent organ work. The group ended with Mandrake root, complete with strobe light, feedback and general disrespect shown to amplification equipment and musical instruments. Quite astonishing nevertheless.
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I see that Uncut Magazine has given Bob's new album "Tempest" 10/10! I wonder if they have also reviewed "Privateering" :-\
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^ Yes, they give it 7/10 which is officially "very good". It is described as "Tasteful without being sterile, diverse but grounded in Knopfler's melancholy mumble and quicksilver guitar, Privateering is a quietly soulful triumph".
Not exactly a ringing endorsement, but I'm still looking forward to hearing it in full- so far resisting all temptation to hear the preview tracks.
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^ Yes, they give it 7/10 which is officially "very good". It is described as "Tasteful without being sterile, diverse but grounded in Knopfler's melancholy mumble and quicksilver guitar, Privateering is a quietly soulful triumph".
Not exactly a ringing endorsement, but I'm still looking forward to hearing it in full- so far resisting all temptation to hear the preview tracks.
Thanks! At least it's a bit better than the measly 2/10 given to "Shangri-la" and the comments are more positive too. ::)
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I'm sure the reviews in general will praise it for it's production quality and highlight two or three stand-out tracks, but point out that many tracks may feel redundant and that the album on the whole is too similar to his previous solo albums. High quality, but no surprises.
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Yes, the same old, same old, we've become used to! Who cares about reviews anyway! ::)
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^ Yes, they give it 7/10 which is officially "very good". It is described as "Tasteful without being sterile, diverse but grounded in Knopfler's melancholy mumble and quicksilver guitar, Privateering is a quietly soulful triumph".
Not exactly a ringing endorsement, but I'm still looking forward to hearing it in full- so far resisting all temptation to hear the preview tracks.
Thanks! At least it's a bit better than the measly 2/10 given to "Shangri-la" and the comments are more positive too. ::)
2/10!- really!! That's ridiculous. I must have missed that review at the time, probably just as well really.
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Yes, the same old, same old, we've become used to! Who cares about reviews anyway! ::)
Exactly. I think it sounds very promising so far, but I really believe it would have benefited from being cut down to one CD OR that disc 1 and 2 were differentiated sharply.
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^ Yes, they give it 7/10 which is officially "very good". It is described as "Tasteful without being sterile, diverse but grounded in Knopfler's melancholy mumble and quicksilver guitar, Privateering is a quietly soulful triumph".
Not exactly a ringing endorsement, but I'm still looking forward to hearing it in full- so far resisting all temptation to hear the preview tracks.
Thanks! At least it's a bit better than the measly 2/10 given to "Shangri-la" and the comments are more positive too. ::)
2/10!- really!! That's ridiculous. I must have missed that review at the time, probably just as well really.
You can still see it! I posted it on the first page of this thread. ;)
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^ Oops! Ah yes, I see what you mean. (Memo to self- read threads from the start, not the end..) :-[
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never were interested in reviews, not in music, not in film, not in cars ... never
it is always a single opinion - when someone gives 2/10 to shangri la it is obviously not a review, it
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never were interested in reviews, not in music, not in film, not in cars ... never
it is always a single opinion - when someone gives 2/10 to shangri la it is obviously not a review, it
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never were interested in reviews, not in music, not in film, not in cars ... never
it is always a single opinion - when someone gives 2/10 to shangri la it is obviously not a review, it
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I am sure that Privateering won't be a solid 10 in my book. "Miss You Blues" will probably be one of the skippers judging by the snippets. Also the dynamics of Mark's last albums is far from perfect and Privateering seems no exception. Dynamics between the songs is so important to keep the attention of the listener. It should be more balanced with a good mix of ballads/slow songs, mid tempo songs and fast passed songs. Ofcourse there should also be a good rock song with a catchy riff and a good epic with an amazing instrumental outro on an album.
Judging by the snippets I think the final verdict will probably a 7 or 8 for the album. I don't expect many suprises. Since all songs are very short and the longest song is Privateering. And since we already know Privateering. The song I am most curious about is Yon Two Crows.
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never were interested in reviews, not in music, not in film, not in cars ... never
it is always a single opinion - when someone gives 2/10 to shangri la it is obviously not a review, it
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never were interested in reviews, not in music, not in film, not in cars ... never
it is always a single opinion - when someone gives 2/10 to shangri la it is obviously not a review, it
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A journalist review is still subjective !
The guy who gave Shangri-La a 2/10 review is clerly not someone who appreciate MK's work.
And the guy who gave Bob Dylan a 10/10 for Tempest is clealy a BD fan, because only BD's voice is something that can't allow him to reach such levels of reviews !
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Steven Spielberg is not a great director?
Aha.
so i tell you, i am director and director of photography. i studied film, i shot films, i met people who worked with Spielberg. You can ask EVERY actor in the world: who leads best?
It will be Spielberg. See what he is doing with kids in his films. Shooting with kids is the most complicated thing in filmmaking. Watch "Schindler
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A journalist review is still subjective !
The guy who gave Shangri-La a 2/10 review is clerly not someone who appreciate MK's work.
And the guy who gave Bob Dylan a 10/10 for Tempest is clealy a BD fan, because only BD's voice is something that can't allow him to reach such levels of reviews !
I realise you're joking but Bob's voice is an individual thing. It gives him a unique and distinctive, instantly recognisable tone - something most artists can only dream of. You can teach most people how to sing if they have a little talent but you can't teach that certain something that makes you stand out from the millions of other people who can sing. Mark has that certain something too. Is that what they call the x-factor? :-\ ;D
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I'm sure that is "the X factor"- and I'm sure the programme of that name wouldn't let either man through the first audition... ;D
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I'm sure that is "the X factor"- and I'm sure the programme of that name wouldn't let either man through the first audition... ;D
I'm sure they would take that as a compliment!
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A journalist review is still subjective !
The guy who gave Shangri-La a 2/10 review is clerly not someone who appreciate MK's work.
And the guy who gave Bob Dylan a 10/10 for Tempest is clealy a BD fan, because only BD's voice is something that can't allow him to reach such levels of reviews !
I realise you're joking but Bob's voice is an individual thing. It gives him a unique and distinctive, instantly recognisable tone - something most artists can only dream of. You can teach most people how to sing if they have a little talent but you can't teach that certain something that makes you stand out from the millions of other people who can sing. Mark has that certain something too. Is that what they call the x-factor? :-\ ;D
Not really joking...
In his latest studio albums he sings quite well, much worse than when he was younger but so much better than live ! :lol
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I saw BD live about 6 years ago and again last year. Back then I loved it very much. Last year I couldn't listen to that voice and ran away every concert exept the first one. But that was the first of the tour in Dublin on first row.
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A journalist review is still subjective !
The guy who gave Shangri-La a 2/10 review is clerly not someone who appreciate MK's work.
And the guy who gave Bob Dylan a 10/10 for Tempest is clealy a BD fan, because only BD's voice is something that can't allow him to reach such levels of reviews !
I realise you're joking but Bob's voice is an individual thing. It gives him a unique and distinctive, instantly recognisable tone - something most artists can only dream of. You can teach most people how to sing if they have a little talent but you can't teach that certain something that makes you stand out from the millions of other people who can sing. Mark has that certain something too. Is that what they call the x-factor? :-\ ;D
Not really joking...
In his latest studio albums he sings quite well, much worse than when he was younger but so much better than live ! :lol
I his saw him just once, last year in Lille.
First row for Mark ;D , but after the first song my wife felt bad ! Too loud music and inaudible Bob's voice ! :disbelief
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Steven Spielberg is not a great director?
Aha.
so i tell you, i am director and director of photography. i studied film, i shot films, i met people who worked with Spielberg. You can ask EVERY actor in the world: who leads best?
It will be Spielberg. See what he is doing with kids in his films. Shooting with kids is the most complicated thing in filmmaking. Watch "Schindler
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It is trivial really but just making conversation and I would love to talk with someone on such matters, maybe at a different thread! By the way glad to have you with us Another Brother and for giving me the chance to talk to somebody who knows about films! :D
First of all before I forget it Another brother hints something you have all missed. Need I elaborate when he gives a 10 to an unreleased record? ;)
About Spielberg, I have to say that he has started hopefully, made his good movies in the 80ies and early 90ies and the rest were just solid movies. Meaning that choosing to direct weak and flawed scenarios is a mistake in the first place, no matter how good are the rest components. I like European directors more, because they don't rely on the expensive FX, but on scenarios that dig a bit deeper in the human condition and nature. Wim Wenders, Kieslowski, Leconte, etc. And there are many Americans that film low budget movies and have to focus on a good script and nice acting: Jim Jarmusch, Steve Buscemi, Woody Allen and many more, that follow in a way the route Frank Capra paved before them. Of course, they are pretty good before they are discovered and ruined by Hollywood, in order to make a blockbuster. See Terry Gilliam, Darren Aranowski etc. And a small detour, how come there are no great comedies?(preferably in the Marx brothers vein) The last good comedies were based on the good acting of the Saturday night live generation from the late seventies.
Maybe I seem like the guy that prefers script over picture, but no. I enjoy an action movie as the next guy, but it is just passing time. Minority report was very good, but still not better than Blade runner. (As a matter of fact these 2 are the only P.K.Dick based movies that I can watch again. The rest were crap)
The last Spielberg movie I enjoyed, but as a late Saturday night movie at home (if you know what I mean), was "Catch me if you can". But it left no taste other than it was a story well told. There is no depth. My favourite Spielberg movie is Empire of the sun, with the young Christian Bale, so I guess there is truth that he gets the best out of his actors and especially kids.
So in my opinion maybe he is a fine maestro of the camera, directing with great ingenuity and finesse, inventing new ways to present things, on the other hand he is only creating nice sequences. I guess it is just a matter of opinion, but when James Cameron says good words for other directors, you've got to take a hint. Titanic...
The fact that Picasso said that thing about critics who can't paint and that you have to learn Chinese to understand Chinese, is true up to a point. But you don't have to eat something rotten to know it is rotten. Some things are just a matter of personal taste. And anyway, how many people on earth know how to play music or shoot a film but are capable of enjoying them? Or not? I am jealous because I can't play the guitar, but I love MK's music and guitar playing. And is it really different to have an opinion expressed in a small circle of friends or as an official critic in a magazine? (Apart maybe from the sales effect it might have). Regardless of my opinion for Spielberg's movies, one thing I feel awkward about when talking about likes and dislikes and subjective opinions for trivial matters, mentioning university titles, diplomas and PHDs. It is as unfair as kicking the critics opinion. It doesn't prove that you are correct and it certainly isn't a safe indication of good taste. But as I said it is really trivial and a personal thing.
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the "problem" of critics (for me) simply is, there is often too much personal taste in it.
when you write about a blockbuster, but you like more jim jarmusch, you must be able to differentiate and to judge the blockbuster film in its genre as that, what it is: popcorn cinema, entertainment. even if you say a film is boring, it
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Was just watching "Jaws" again the other night, it's out on Blu-ray now. I like!
LE
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Was just watching "Jaws" again the other night, it's out on Blu-ray now. I like!
LE
There's a new special edition/box set coming out here in the UK I noticed in HMV. I don't think I've got room for it though; gonna need a bigger...cupboard! ;D
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Was just watching "Jaws" again the other night, it's out on Blu-ray now. I like!
LE
There's a new special edition/box set coming out here in the UK I noticed in HMV. I don't think I've got room for it though; gonna need a bigger...cupboard! ;D
I go to the beach too much to watch that film again!!! :)
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Another Brother, you are spot on about the critics and the need to differentiate, but I have to say (without being a critic) that when you read reviews you always look at the name of the critic and most of the times you know if he is on the same side of the fence. I know critics that have an opinion about everything but can not trust their opinion on blockbusters. On the other hand I trust their opinion on old movies and I am sure that what they like I will like too.
Saying things like "this film is boring" is not the words of a critic, but the words of a lazy, snobbish twat. And when I read them I just note his name in order to avoid him in the future.
By the way have you seen the movie "Network"?
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Sidney Lumet, of course