A Mark In Time
Previous Albums => Privateering (2012) => Topic started by: El Macho on August 07, 2012, 07:20:47 PM
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Different releases and track lenghts are announced on mknews
2 x Vinyl Disc
DISC 1:
[ Side A1]
Redbud Tree - 3:19
Haul Away - 4:01
Don't Forget Your Hat - 5:15
Privateering - 6:19
Miss You Blues - 4:18
[ Side A2]
Corned Beef City - 3:32
Go, Love - 4:52
Hot Or What - 4:54
Yon Two Crows - 4:26
Seattle - 4:17
DISC 2:
[Side B1]
Kingdom Of Gold - 5:22
Got To Have Something - 4:01
Radio City Serenade - 5:13
I Used To Could - 3:36
Gator Blood - 4:15
[Side B2]
Bluebird - 3:27
Dream Of The Drowned Submariner - 4:57
Blood And Water - 5:19
Today Is Okay - 4:45
After The Beanstalk - 3:54
DELUXE ALBUM
Standard 2CD Plus live CD featuring rehearsal from tour Autumn 2011 in hard back book format.
1 Why Aye Man
2 Cleaning My Gun (unmixed 2-track)
3 Corned Beef City (unmixed 2-track)
4 Sailing To Philadelphia
5 Hill Farmer's Blues (unmixed 2-track)
SUPER DELUXE EDITION BOXSET:
STANDARD CD + 2LP Vinyl + BONUS CD OF 3 EXTRA TRACKS +
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Around 90 minutes !
We will have to buy Deluxe and Super Deluxe editions to have everything...
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Around 90 minutes !
We will have to buy Deluxe and Super Deluxe editions to have everything...
Around 90 minutes like expected because otherwise 2 vinyls won't be enough!
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basically still no info on those 3 extra tracks and the donwloadable concert...
and yes..it seems you need to buy 2 editions to have everything.....
I think so, the boxset has a 3 tracks extra and the deluxe the 7 songs live ::)
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They are sneaky, the record company people.
Last time the "Wonderful Box of Plastic" came at an unreasonable cost and the Deluxe just topped the Standard by "pennies". My guess is that fewer were sold worldwide than expected.
Now they bring a really great box set at a reasonable price, but - die-hard fans take heed! To have the whole lot of songs you'll have to buy the Deluxe, which is now a lot more expensive than the last one they called Deluxe.
And I can almost place a hefty bet on that the Japanese super-something CD will have a fourth bonus song. Something that will almost drive the die-hard fan to insanity. Again...
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My God, I went in the garden for only half an hour und again breaking news at amit !!! To have it all, we have to buy both sets and I`m so crazy : I preordered both ;D.
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basically still no info on those 3 extra tracks and the donwloadable concert...
and yes..it seems you need to buy 2 editions to have everything.....
I think so, the boxset has a 3 tracks extra and the deluxe the 7 songs live ::)
Actually it have 5 songs...
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basically still no info on those 3 extra tracks and the donwloadable concert...
and yes..it seems you need to buy 2 editions to have everything.....
I think so, the boxset has a 3 tracks extra and the deluxe the 7 songs live ::)
Actually it have 5 songs...
compared to what bol.com writes it's 7 songs on the extra CD in the deluxe! (only 5 were on youtube???)
Is there anyone in this f....g world who really knows it? It seems that every site is giving different info :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
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basically still no info on those 3 extra tracks and the donwloadable concert...
and yes..it seems you need to buy 2 editions to have everything.....
I think so, the boxset has a 3 tracks extra and the deluxe the 7 songs live ::)
Actually it have 5 songs...
compared to what bol.com writes it's 7 songs on the extra CD in the deluxe! (only 5 were on youtube???)
Is there anyone in this f....g world who really knows it? It seems that every site is giving different info :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief :disbelief
Itunes had also 5 songs in that bonus cd...
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sorry that's what I meant: itunes had only 5 songs
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Wouldn't the right strategy be, by the super box, then as soon as the physical, real (normal) deluxe album hits the shops compare, and if necessary buy? ( same goes eventually for the Japanese super thing)
Also mk.com announced they will be the only ones carrying all formats on te US market! Strange right?
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They are sneaky, the record company people.
Now they bring a really great box set at a reasonable price, but - die-hard fans take heed! To have the whole lot of songs you'll have to buy the Deluxe, which is now a lot more expensive than the last one they called Deluxe.
<dylanmode> Take heed, take heed of the western wind </dylanmode> ;)
Joking aside, I don't like this strategy, too. And I certainly won't buy x versions of this album. I already pre-ordered the box at amazon. It's hard to imagine that MK is satisfied with this kind distribution strategy, or should I say....rip-off?
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If I'm right :
total time : 90'02
CD 1 : 45'13
CD 2 : 44'49
An average time of 4'30 per song.
Redbud tree is the shortest : 3'19
Privateering is the longest : 6'19
I would have liked some longer songs with extended solos !
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Really the only thing that I would like to have from the Super Box Set is the disc with the 3 extra songs - most of the rest I already have or don't want eg vinyl discs, "A Life in Songs", and the print.
We have no idea what the downloadable concert is - if it was a concert of our choice, particularly from the next tour, that would be lovely, but until we know more about that, I am undecided and may just buy the 2 CD and use the money saved for an extra seat at a concert. The box set does look beautiful, though, I have to admit! :)
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I ordered the super deluxe edition at mk.com and the deluxe edition at amazon.fr
So the total amount is the price of the super deluxe edition at amazon.fr !
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What's up with all this talk about track lengths? I've seen it mentioned several times on Guy Fletcher's forum too. Did people really we would get a double CD with two-minute songs?
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Having thought about it, these are the track lengths for the vinyl edition, and songs have been known to be edited so they can fit the whole album onto the record. So we may yet find that some of the tracks are longer than this list shows. Just a theory ;). Not that I'm that bothered about track lengths - a song should be as long as is natural for that song. Whether it's two minutes or a fifteen minute epic, one can be just as effective as the other in my opinion.
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Having thought about it, these are the track lengths for the vinyl edition, and songs have been known to be edited so they can fit the whole album onto the record. So we may yet find that some of the tracks are longer than this list shows. Just a theory ;). Not that I'm that bothered about track lengths - a song should be as long as is natural for that song. Whether it's two minutes or a fifteen minute epic, one can be just as effective as the other in my opinion.
Did it happen with previous albums? ???
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Yes - the beginning of 5:15am on the Shangri-La LP is missing; it cuts in shortly before the vocal, and from memory I believe part of Punish the Monkey is missing on the Kill to Get Crimson LP.
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Fantastically informative post, a lot of information I wanted is here.
I'm very strapped for cash at the moment, but I do plan on getting the super deluxe edition when I can afford it. And a new record player to appreciate the vinyls!
Thanks again,
JC
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Good plan Val, I'll probably go for the three CD then pick up the box later when it is cheap.
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Delux 3 CD version for me too - i suspect the mystery concert will find its way onto the interweb sooner or later...! ;)
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HMV have 3 disc deluxe edition for
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01. Occupation Blues 4:22
02. River of Grog 3:42
03. Follow The Ribbon 8:07 !!!
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Delux 3 CD version for me too - i suspect the mystery concert will find its way onto the interweb sooner or later...! ;)
Same for me.
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01. Occupation Blues 4:22
02. River of Grog 3:42
03. Follow The Ribbon 8:07 !!!
Cool, where did you find this?
LE
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http://store.universal-music.co.uk/restofworld/privateering/mark-knopfler-privateering-super-deluxe-box-set/invt/0602537043231/
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This sucks :disbelief... why didn't they just put these 3 bonus tracks on the deluxe edition disc 3 and on the box version CD3 also the live tracks. This kind of marketing strategy is what kills the industry too if you ask me. I go for the regular CD and hope I am able to grab the 3 bonus tracks in flac format somewhere from the internet. I really could care less if that upsets Mark or Guy I have purchased the whole DS & MK discography and visited many concerts. It certainly is not me who puts them out of business.
Anyway, did you all notice Follow The Ribbon is more then 8 minutes? This makes me curious. Must be a good song, else you don't stretch it so far to keep it interesting.
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01. Occupation Blues 4:22
02. River of Grog 3:42
03. Follow The Ribbon 8:07 !!!
8:07!!:D
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01. Occupation Blues 4:22
02. River of Grog 3:42
03. Follow The Ribbon 8:07 !!!
8:07!!:D
If it's very special, we'll hear it eventually, whether we buy the Super Deluxe, or not! ;)
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Totally agree with you Guitarman, this does well and truly "suck." Best thing to do would be for one of us to agree to share the bonus tracks with those regulars on here who want it! Of course I would never condone this and was only joking. ;) ;)
Interesting that the only lengthy track is the bonus one... Looks like Yon Two Crows won't transform into something brilliant after all. Indeed, none of them will - until they are played live perhaps? Thoroughly disappointed at the track lengths due to the amount of harmonica on them.
If this album ( from the clips anyway) has so much harmonica I expected some lengthy tracks for MK to play guitar on in reply. This must mean harmonica only on lots of songs and no guitar! If this was labelled a Kim Wilson album his fans wouldn't be surprised! :(
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It keeps on amazing me how the box set price dropped by more than the half of the GL set. Yet, this one holds more quality over the plastics and rubbish "memorabilia".
And I had the record company strategy all figured out in the other thread. ;D
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01. Occupation Blues 4:22
02. River of Grog 3:42
03. Follow The Ribbon 8:07 !!!
8:07!!:D
@dmg: How much harmonica to guitar ratio is that? ;)
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It keeps on amazing me how the box set price dropped by more than the half of the GL set. Yet, this one holds more quality over the plastics and rubbish "memorabilia".
And I had the record company strategy all figured out in the other thread. ;D
Amazon.fr and Fnac.com are still pricing it 89'90
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It keeps on amazing me how the box set price dropped by more than the half of the GL set. Yet, this one holds more quality over the plastics and rubbish "memorabilia".
And I had the record company strategy all figured out in the other thread. ;D
Amazon.fr and Fnac.com are still pricing it 89'90
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01. Occupation Blues 4:22
02. River of Grog 3:42
03. Follow The Ribbon 8:07 !!!
8:07!!:D
@dmg: How much harmonica to guitar ratio is that? ;)
8:1 ;D
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4:6:)
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01. Occupation Blues 4:22
02. River of Grog 3:42
03. Follow The Ribbon 8:07 !!!
8:07!!:D
I don't judge a song by it length. Who knows, Follow The Ribbon could be as much boring as the extended studio version of Why Worry. The longer is not always the better.
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01. Occupation Blues 4:22
02. River of Grog 3:42
03. Follow The Ribbon 8:07 !!!
8:07!!:D
If it's very special, we'll hear it eventually, whether we buy the Super Deluxe, or not! ;)
If its that special it wouldnt have gotten missed on the main album - i suspect this is nothing to big up too much about...
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Bol.com stated that the 3rd CD will contain 7 songs.
This is not true, isn't it???
:(
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According to the official site it's not true. If it's true we might have a different edition in the Netherlands and then I have to buy another deluxe. Ordered the box at bol.com and the box at mk.com :disbelief
I think bol.com is wrong, but we will see
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Hope not.
7 songs look like more than an album
5 is more a EP
I ordered Super Deluxe at amazon.de EUR 65
Deluxe EUR 28
Who is cheaper? HMV.com has the Deluxe for GBP 17. That's good
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For the deluxe, fnac.com and amazon.fr are at 19,99
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Deluxe 29,99 ??? Way overpriced, so I ordered at MK.com
standard 17,99 :-\
What's the price in Franc for standard then??
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Deluxe 29,99 ??? Way overpriced, so I ordered at MK.com
standard 17,99 :-\
What's the price in Franc for standard then??
Fnac 16,99
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Yeah, but don't forget the 5,80
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Fnac 16,99
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Corned Beef City live version is 1 minute longer !
I wonder if the album version length isn't wrong...
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Could be that the tracklengths are from the vinyl (can't go over 45 minutes because of quality), so maybe that's cut
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Could be that the tracklengths are from the vinyl (can't go over 45 minutes because of quality), so maybe that's cut
The LP edition should be on 3 discs !
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According to the Universal store, the tracks lengths on CDs are the same as on the LPs. Strange ???
http://store.universal-music.co.uk/euro/privateering/mark-knopfler-privateering-deluxe-3cd-edition/invt/0602537081189/
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I suppose that the CD's are also only 45 minutes each then.
Not unusual that live is longer
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Could be that the tracklengths are from the vinyl (can't go over 45 minutes because of quality), so maybe that's cut
Yes, but remember OES? I believe it was a bit over 60 minutes on a single disc. So the 45 minutes rule, applies only for audiophile editions.
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That's why I hoped the songs were a little longer on CD :'(
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Deluxe 29,99 ??? Way overpriced, so I ordered at MK.com
standard 17,99 :-\
What's the price in Franc for standard then??
If you ordered your deluxe at MK.com you get shipping costs for it, so then the price will be over that 29.99....
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Ordering from mk.com is a little cheaper than from amazon.de, but with a good diference, amazon.de will ship on august 30th or 31st, and mk.com will ship on september 4th...
If they ship at all. I recall lot of problems delivering the GL boxes... I dont trust them on this.
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That's right (30,29) but now I get 2 codes for buying tickets ;D
With bol.com you only can get more codes if you order all things separately, I phoned them about that.
So one order with box + deluxe = 1 code
One order with box + one order with deluxe = 2 codes
So I bet on 2 horses now ;D ;D ;D
But what a difference: France Deluxe is 19,99, Netherlands 29,99!! :disbelief
If all goes well the box will be in my hands on the 31st! The deluxe can come later, I don't mind as the only difference it the live-versions, which I also have from different fanrecordings :P
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I read this at the official site
i emailed store and complained that the box set doesn't include the 5 song bonus disc. that is absolutely ludicrous that it does not. they also said not sure of what live show it is, but one from last tour. not ever sure if that means the one with dylan or the GL tour.
If its from the GL tour... I hope its one not from the Simfy collection, if it is, it would be useless for many of us...
I hope they mean the Dylan tour, because we dont have any of those in soundboard...
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Personally there is no way I will order from the official store unless I lose my sanity! I won't receive it until about a week after it's been released! How can I possibly wait that long?? Stuff the priority seats; mine have been terrible on the last two occasions anyway when bought through MK official priority. :disbelief
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Can someone help me with the 'Code-stuff'?
I read about it somewhere here, but don't totally understand it.. I ordered my super deluxe version via Bol.com, so that's one code for me.
But if I order the 3disc special edition via MK.com, do I then get another code from them, because I read something about the difference in coutries for the codes?
And I want both of the deluxe boxes to get all of the songs, and if I can get 2 code's that would be superb!
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Hi Klaas,
If you order the deluxe at bol.com you also get another code. I phoned them for that. It's 2 separate orders, so 2 separate codes.
If you would have ordered the whole set in one order then you only get one code :disbelief Strange but that's what they told me on the phone.
When you order the deluxe at mk.com you also get a code. But make sure you got the right newsletter where things were explained about the code. I got the wrong one and it turned out to be that I didn't enter my countrycode when signing in to the newsletters (years ago). If you didn't get the newsletter with the info about the codes for priority seating then send a mail to mk.com, they will change your info, so you will get the right one next time.
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I hope there will be another restriction in buying tickets. I don't see the advantage for early buying tickets for (let's say) the HMH in The Netherlands. I have ordered my deluxe version just to obtain a code from bol.com
But I really hope I can buy prior tickets for the RAH in London.
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HMH was early entry, not too bad in my opinion, I managed to have my iPhone signed by MK because I didn't have to queue all the time. :D :D
And I said it earlier, I suppose (see newssection at mk.com) that we will have a presale again.
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Hi Klaas,
If you order the deluxe at bol.com you also get another code. I phoned them for that. It's 2 separate orders, so 2 separate codes.
If you would have ordered the whole set in one order then you only get one code :disbelief Strange but that's what they told me on the phone.
When you order the deluxe at mk.com you also get a code. But make sure you got the right newsletter where things were explained about the code. I got the wrong one and it turned out to be that I didn't enter my countrycode when signing in to the newsletters (years ago). If you didn't get the newsletter with the info about the codes for priority seating then send a mail to mk.com, they will change your info, so you will get the right one next time.
Thanks for the info Ingrid!
Makes it a lot clearer.
As I didn't get the right newsletter, I'll probably make a second order at bol.com.
But first I'll send a mail to mk.com
Thanks!
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I read this at the official site
i emailed store and complained that the box set doesn't include the 5 song bonus disc. that is absolutely ludicrous that it does not. they also said not sure of what live show it is, but one from last tour. not ever sure if that means the one with dylan or the GL tour.
If its from the GL tour... I hope its one not from the Simfy collection, if it is, it would be useless for many of us...
I hope they mean the Dylan tour, because we dont have any of those in soundboard...
If it's a recording from the GL tour I must have been sleeping when they played corned beef city, privateering, haul away! :lol
It's probably on the CD when and where it was recorded. Look at the live additions in the past, it's always explained when/where/what/how etc. :)