And hasn't somebody mentioned Mark's dog (named Corey) recently? Should we delete that post?
It's old hat.
Everytime DK is becoming important in a thread we are close to exactly this same situation. Of course we are allowed to discuss things like these, AMIT was founded because we weren't to do so at another place. But you should also acknowledge the fact that this is obviously leading to very uncomfortable feelings for many members. So it is not a rule as such, but when there are signs that a lot of people feel not ok with discussing stuff like this, then it is fine with me to close this thread.
About the dog:
Same situation: In that thread, there was not only talk about his dog, but about Mark's cousins, daughters, daughter's twitter accounts, friends and family.. I know at least one very active and well known and beloved long time member of AMIT that quit because of exactly that thread - so we should really keep that in mind. Not as a rule, but trying to be sensitive and react to feelings of other members...
Is it really that important to discuss the facts about Mark and David that have been discussed a bazillion times before? It will come up again next year, anyway...
So which song did Mark write about Sonny's drug problems?
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About the dog:
Same situation: In that thread, there was not only talk about his dog, but about Mark's cousins, daughters, daughter's twitter accounts, friends and family.. I know at least one very active and well known and beloved long time member of AMIT that quit because of exactly that thread - so we should really keep that in mind. Not as a rule, but trying to be sensitive and react to feelings of other members...
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About the dog:
Same situation: In that thread, there was not only talk about his dog, but about Mark's cousins, daughters, daughter's twitter accounts, friends and family.. I know at least one very active and well known and beloved long time member of AMIT that quit because of exactly that thread - so we should really keep that in mind. Not as a rule, but trying to be sensitive and react to feelings of other members...
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Sorry, but if for that thread someone left, looks dumb and childy to me...
Everyone of that people mentioned has a public profile in social networks, they don't hide and they expose themselves to the whole world. They talk freely about their lives, put pics online etc... We only talked about them because they exposed themselves...
Sure some bad jokes or inappropriate comments were made, we are all naughty people sometimes, but leave the forum just because of that is nahive, dumb and childy, in my humble and probably wrong opinion...
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Who cares if the MK and DK situation is discussed here or not. I dont understand why some people get so upset and offended about such a trivial topic. Freedom of speach always offends someone, but its a price worth paying surely??? Or is this gonna morph into MK News.
Who cares if the MK and DK situation is discussed here or not. I dont understand why some people get so upset and offended about such a trivial topic. Freedom of speach always offends someone, but its a price worth paying surely??? Or is this gonna morph into MK News.
I'm all in favour of freedom of speech, but there is a fine line between that and invasion of privacy.
Nobody here is priviledged enough to be able to invade MKs privacy. Plus I dont think their is anybody daft enough to cross a supposed line. We all deserve a bit more credit than that.Who cares if the MK and DK situation is discussed here or not. I dont understand why some people get so upset and offended about such a trivial topic. Freedom of speach always offends someone, but its a price worth paying surely??? Or is this gonna morph into MK News.
I'm all in favour of freedom of speech, but there is a fine line between that and invasion of privacy.
Nobody here is priviledged enough to be able to invade MKs privacy. Plus I dont think their is anybody daft enough to cross a supposed line. We all deserve a bit more credit than that.Who cares if the MK and DK situation is discussed here or not. I dont understand why some people get so upset and offended about such a trivial topic. Freedom of speach always offends someone, but its a price worth paying surely??? Or is this gonna morph into MK News.
I'm all in favour of freedom of speech, but there is a fine line between that and invasion of privacy.
Yeah you would have to be a pretty nasty person to start revealing very personal stuff about MK.Nobody here is priviledged enough to be able to invade MKs privacy. Plus I dont think their is anybody daft enough to cross a supposed line. We all deserve a bit more credit than that.Who cares if the MK and DK situation is discussed here or not. I dont understand why some people get so upset and offended about such a trivial topic. Freedom of speach always offends someone, but its a price worth paying surely??? Or is this gonna morph into MK News.
I'm all in favour of freedom of speech, but there is a fine line between that and invasion of privacy.
I agree with you. Why would we want to?
It's old hat.
Everytime DK is becoming important in a thread we are close to exactly this same situation. Of course we are allowed to discuss things like these, AMIT was founded because we weren't to do so at another place. But you should also acknowledge the fact that this is obviously leading to very uncomfortable feelings for many members. So it is not a rule as such, but when there are signs that a lot of people feel not ok with discussing stuff like this, then it is fine with me to close this thread.
About the dog:
Same situation: In that thread, there was not only talk about his dog, but about Mark's cousins, daughters, daughter's twitter accounts, friends and family.. I know at least one very active and well known and beloved long time member of AMIT that quit because of exactly that thread - so we should really keep that in mind. Not as a rule, but trying to be sensitive and react to feelings of other members...
Is it really that important to discuss the facts about Mark and David that have been discussed a bazillion times before? It will come up again next year, anyway...
So which song did Mark write about Sonny's drug problems?
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Or lets just talk about the lengh of the songs on the next MK solo effort.
And hasn't somebody mentioned Mark's dog (named Corey) recently? Should we delete that post?
The dog was mentioned by Mark's wife Kitty in an article in the Daily Mail recently and also in The Guardian in 2009, so why should that be deleted? We even have a picture, courtesy of Kitty.
I just cannot understand why anyone would find it necessary to email DK about his relationship with Mark and even worse, that DK would discuss it willy-nilly with a complete stranger! It is so distasteful! Let's not forget that Mark did not have a chance to reply in this exchange of emails - nor would he have done so if it had been sent to him, because, I'm sure he would say it is not any of our business!
Who cares if the MK and DK situation is discussed here or not. I dont understand why some people get so upset and offended about such a trivial topic. Freedom of speach always offends someone, but its a price worth paying surely??? Or is this gonna morph into MK News.
I don't think you all get me right: I am also living in the Netherlands. I am also a fighter for freedom of speech. That's not what I want to stop!!!If it's about one person, it doesn't have to be very hard does it? Talk to the one who did it.
Someone tried to get information about MK's private life/private decisions/private feelings through his brother.
That's not crossing the line of freedom of speech ....
It's crossing the line of respect and it's crossing the line of good taste.
That's my point, not more, not less.
Maybe you get it, maybe not. That's the only thing that I am pissed about.
We are proud of this community. Friendly people, having good discussions, we disagree but respectful. We act like gentlemen/women, at least that's what we say about this forum. I am proud of that, but in this topic there were some of these good vibes gone.
I feel Ingrid's frustration. What happened yesterday, was not about the MK/DS story, which is in the public domain and, of course, is open for discussion to old and new members alike and can be talked about 'til the cows come home, or until you're all bored to death with it!
No, this was something different altogether. It was not about freedom of speech, it was about a member getting information from one of the two people involved and then posting it on this forum. That was all it was about and I am surprised most people didn't get the gist of it!
Can I suggest the mods look at the issue from the perspective of a new member who is a rabid MK/DS fan?
I feel Ingrid's frustration. What happened yesterday, was not about the MK/DS story, which is in the public domain and, of course, is open for discussion to old and new members alike and can be talked about 'til the cows come home, or until you're all bored to death with it!
No, this was something different altogether. It was not about freedom of speech, it was about a member getting information from one of the two people involved and then posting it on this forum. That was all it was about and I am surprised most people didn't get the gist of it!
So what if one of the two people involved wants to talk publicly about it? As long as no libel or slander laws are broken then it's not a problem.
As far as I can see two people are uncomfortable with the direction the thread was taking. That in itself is not a reason to close the thread.
The lines were crossed by one person, as far as I understand, so I think we went too far about this, as it looked like everybody was going wrong when in fact it was an isolated episode by someone without the common sense to leave the discussion here...
My understanding is that talking about close the topic was wrong, we should had asked, all of us, to the person who e-mailed DK about our conversation not to do that as its invading their privacy and thats somethig we dont encourage. One thing is that they talk publicly, other very different is asking.
Anyone is free to do what he wants to do, but we dont encourage it.
Eureka! Thanks Jbaent. Can we all be friends now? :D
I know a good one: IF we have one ticket for M&G who will be the lucky one :P
No chance we ever get a ticket other than from contest or whatever, and last time no M&G's were held :'(
JBaent: not only the German fans, I would like to have that code too :D :D
I usually attend more gigs in Germany than in the Netherlands (because there are more in Germany, only 3 max 4 here so far) and Germany is really close to me: Oberhausen 1 3/4 hours, Cologne 2 hours, Strassbourg 3 hours, Frankfurt 4 hours and so on.
What can I do to obtain that code? Are you going to London? I can buy you some beers, a dinner :P :P
Hey guys, I'm sorry for having caused such a stir here, but since it led to a discussion about the forum in general, it might eventually do some good.
Before we move on, let me just get three things right:
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Haha, sorry, but some of the comments here make me laugh. If you don't "encourage" this kind of discussion, why don't you just look for another topic?
Hey guys, I'm sorry for having caused such a stir here, but since it led to a discussion about the forum in general, it might eventually do some good.
Before we move on, let me just get three things right:
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This forum is completely pointless if we censor anything that may be critical of MK.
The thing I wanted to discuss were legal problems David seemed to have regarding the copyright of early Dire Straits songs. David Knopfler is free to discuss these matters whenever and with whomever he wants. I just wanted to know what happened to HIS copyrights, and nobody can bar him from discussing that.
I understand ingridswing view.
Email are considered private discussion and reporting it on a public forum is very sensitive.
I have been in the same situation a few years ago regarding the reason why Michaelangelo was dropped from RLRR release.
Regarding the present case I don't see anything really disturbing in what Rail King reported from Dave. But he should have had David approval to do it.
Well, we should learn from that and I would make a proposal : if we ever contact someone on a subject we should ask him if he accept that his answer can be made public or not.
however the average MK fan is obviously better behaved than the average Internet forum person (in general). There's probably not much moderating needed!
No strange abbreviations here ? ;D ? For me as a newbe---ah no meanwhile I
+1 :lolCan I suggest the mods look at the issue from the perspective of a new member who is a rabid MK/DS fan?
Hi there, I'm a new member. I must say, the first couple of days I was super excited about finding AMIT and putting in my 2 cents, but now I am a little concerned.
I'm not going to chime in on this discussion here, but I hope that we can come to a resolution that will see the forum return to an appreciation of a fantastically talented and humble human being.
Let's all go check our super deluxe edition pre-order details again to clear our mind!
wanna look like this?Eureka! Thanks Jbaent. Can we all be friends now? :D
No way, we have to search for a new reason to fight!!!!
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