A Mark In Time
Previous Albums => Privateering (2012) => Topic started by: tunnel85 on September 04, 2012, 05:54:05 PM
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Today is Sept. 4th and I still don't have my copy of Privateering. :disbelief
I'm old school and I like to physically buy things instead of ordering. Not the best idea but it's my contribution to save the local stores...
Official release was supposed to be Aug. 31st and I could find the standard 2CD version + LP only today.
No Deluxe and of course no Super Deluxe. Absolutely useless and offending.
They said they can order the Box for ca. 120 Euros ... Who's gonna pay twice the price to have things 2 weeks taler ?
Will show them next year what I can get for 120 Euros. >:(
I don't understand the commercial strategy.
How can the music industry complain if they show no respect to the customers ?
Maybe I won't buy at all their f*** record. ??? >:(
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First of all a big congratulations from me for buying it from a shop and not ordering online. I hate to see empty units in my local high street and when I can, I try to do the same. However, this time I ordered online because I thought the record shop may not stock the deluxe edition. I guess it's a sign of the times because a number of years ago they would have had more of a selection.
I'm in the same boat however in that I still have no physical copy of Privateering. Two are apparently in the post and on their way to me now, however. I shall wait by the door...
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I also bought mine locally because I remember there were delays with the Get Lucky on line orders. ( I bought the boxed set of GL locally as well).
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good to read I'm not the last of the Mohicans.
I'm gonna cross the border and give a try in France. Maybe the grass is greener ?
it could be intetesting to figure it out :o
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I'm in France,
I went to Lille this afternoon, I went to 2 stores : FNAC and Furet du Nord.
Only available are the 2 CD and the 2 LP versions.
At present , I still have got no album. :disbelief
MK.com gave me a code to download the album for free...
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I've received an email from Amazon Italy. They are out of stock and I won't be deivered before 26th september... 1st october...
I've ordered in Italy beause it was CHEAPER.... so.... I'll wait for my box...Glad that I have mp3
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Quote Tunnel : "good to read I'm not the last of the Mohicans"
LOL Tunnel! No you are not one of the last Mohicans! ;D I always order at our local Music store too and until now I always had
my CD's before it was official released!
I have been twice to the shop now and the owner (who is a fan as well) promised Friday that he would try to get the CD's asap,
but it seems he doesn't have another choice then waiting too! Of course I could go to another shop in a bigger city, but because
I ordered the CD's a few weeks ago and because it isn't his fault, I am loyal to this man and don't want to leave him in the lurch!
Today I called him and he told he will have the CD tomorrow! ;D .... So at last I will be able to listen tomorrow evening! :P
Fieneke
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amazon delivers top service, all the time anywhere. that is all i can say. and yes, i TOO support non online business. but if they would be halve as cooperative and customer minded as amazon, they would sooooooo stay in business..
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So it's a big mess all over Europe.
I'm very suprised that a major like Mercury is to professionnally release an album.
it looks that the Super / Deluxe needs were under evaluated.
What do they want us to do ? Get a copy in Hong Kong ? No problem, I can do it. :o
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I ordered mine copy of the super deluxe version weeks ago in the shops. They even asked me if I wanted this version. (They know I am a fan)
And because of that I got it at the release date 31th August.
I think it is just a matter of ordering on time from the shop to have it on time. So yes I am supporting the offline stores too.
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I ordered mine copy of the super deluxe version weeks ago in the shops. They even asked me if I wanted this version. (They know I am a fan)
And because of that I got it at the release date 31th August.
I think it is just a matter of ordering on time from the shop to have it on time. So yes I am supporting the offline stores too.
That's an efficient solution ;)
It works because you're a big fan and you have a good store.
What about the normal customer ?
I understand it may be difficult to find the Super Deluxe box but at least the Deluxe version should be in stores at the release date.
After reading different answers, I'm not sure anymore the problem is the shops. Looks like Mercury is doing an amateur job. :o
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Deluxe versions are mostly bought by people who are aware of this versions. Here in The Netherlands the sale from the 2cd version is going very well, so I think they have a good stock in the shops.
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Tunnel, I do the same ;D
I've always bought my records in store, never ordered on the web
in Fnac Lyon, std edition was avalaible on monday, and there was ONE super deluxe box set version, at least in the FNAC store I went, but there are 2 other FNAC stores + one Virgin Megastore (where I bought my deluxe boxe set GL back in 2009) in Lyon, so I guess that there are other ones avalaible in my town.
the Fnac store said that the deluxe 3CD edtion will be released on 10th september
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At my local MediaMarkt, there were shelves full of the new MK cd, but no record store in my area has the (super) deluxe version in yet.
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I bought all my MK cds in local shops until Shangri-la, then local shops closed or changed into other kind of stores...
The next cds I bought them at Fnac in Valencia, but this time the price is too high there, and I
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I Don't know if those of you that have ordered the deluxe & box sets from MK.com have noticed, but they now have a note on the order page saying "please allow 6-8 weeks for delivery" ! :o
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Wasn't intending to buy a copy of the album because I have ordered the various editions but we were on holiday in our holiday home in Cornwall on release day and we wandered into a small record shop in nearby Bude, Cornwall to not only find a 'two disc' copy off the shelf but the owner was actually playing the album too!!
Redbud tree was the track playing in the background!!
The owner of the store like ourselves is a MK fan....
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No sign of it yet, anywhere, in any form. I would like to say that I bought it from my local shop, but paying for GL 100 Euros was the last nail in the cofin. And nobody brings deluxe editions without order and making profit...
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I searched a good few minutes looking for it at my local ASDA............. it wasn't there, it wasn't even in their chart!!(other new releases this week were in it) The supremely talented Ronan Keatings new album was no4!!!!, I think
Very strange and worrying, as a lot of sales will come from supermarkets, hopefully it's not a common occurence elsewhere.
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I've got 2 e-mails tonight :3
First one from fnac.com : my deluxe edition is being shipped
Second one from Universal.co.uk : a free copy of the 2 CD edition because I bought 2 tickets for the RAH (I'm not a UK resident !)
So finally I will have 3 editions ! A crazy thing...
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I've got 2 e-mails tonight :3
First one from fnac.com : my deluxe edition is being shipped
Second one from Universal.co.uk : a free copy of the 2 CD edition because I bought 2 tickets for the RAH (I'm not a UK resident !)
So finally I will have 3 editions ! A crazy thing...
Same here! Also not a UK resident and i ordered my copy for free.
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mk.com also gave me a promotion code for a free download copy!
4 editions finally !!!
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Today is Sept. 4th and I still don't have my copy of Privateering. :disbelief
I'm old school and I like to physically buy things instead of ordering. Not the best idea but it's my contribution to save the local stores...
Official release was supposed to be Aug. 31st and I could find the standard 2CD version + LP only today.
No Deluxe and of course no Super Deluxe. Absolutely useless and offending.
They said they can order the Box for ca. 120 Euros ... Who's gonna pay twice the price to have things 2 weeks taler ?
Will show them next year what I can get for 120 Euros. >:(
I don't understand the commercial strategy. How can the music industry complain if they show no respect to the customers ?
Maybe I won't buy at all their f*** record. ??? >:(
Hello tunnel85,
I too chose to buy mine from a shop rather than on-line. I specifically avoided ordering through the "official" website, MarkKnopfler.com because they had demonstrated such poor service and communication over shutting down the discussion forum there.
So at after work today, September 7th, I was finally able to make it to a shop that said they had both the regular and deluxe versions in stock. I looked though the rack and found no sign of anything by Mark Knopfler - not even an empty bin with a tag. So I asked a clerk and she informed me, "All our CDs are on the shelves. We don't order extra stock that we don't have room for on the display racks. If it's not there, we either didn't get it, or we're sold out."
Fortunately I found another CD I wanted and picked that up or I might have left empty-handed. They had a customer computer kiosk nearby where you can check for their stock of any item and when I typed in Privateering, it told me there are "8 copies at this location".
I approached a different clerk about finding where those 8 copies might be and she said, "Oh, you'll have to ask the cashier to check."
So, I went to the cashier to pay for my other CD and ask her about the Mark Knopfler one as well. She asked me twice how to spell his name and couldn't find anything so I asked her to search by title as I had done. I spelled out P-r-i-v-a-t-e-e-r-i-n-g for her. She watched her screen and then grabbed a piece of paper and made some notes without saying anything.
She then went to see yet another clerk who turned to look at me and smiled and said, "I'll just go look in the back". I said, "There's a deluxe version available too. I'll take that if you've got it."
A minute or two later she returned looking quite pleased and had a copy of Privateering in her hand. "It's 2 CDs," she said. "Is that the deluxe version?"
"No, I replied ruefully. "The deluxe version is 3 CDs."
"Oh. Well this is all we have."
Can you believe it? ??? The release date here in Canada was September 4. Another store nearby had it on the shelf the day of release, but at this place they seemed completely unaware and had to go digging in the back-room for it - 3 days after the release date! And nobody it seems, has anything other than the standard 2-CD version.
Of course I bought it, but I don't know how I'm going to get the deluxe version or the bonus tracks unless I now go and place an order on-line! :(
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3Pints I thought you were a Brit!
Anyway, I found a way to deal with the situation. I convinced myself that the release date is 31 September, ( ;) ) so all I have to do is wait.
I guess the good old DS days that they were selling records like bread are long gone, so the young ones (20-22) that serve at the shops, haven't even heard of him.
I don't know what happened, I guess we will never learn, but an apology would at least soften the blow.
I know that they produce many copies of the simple release and 4-6 months after they have it on sale, so it practically costs them nothing, the profits come from the expensive editions, which would be limited, if we knew the exact number of copies produced. 1 million copies are hardly limited. 9999 copies are OK.
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I searched a good few minutes looking for it at my local ASDA............. it wasn't there, it wasn't even in their chart!!(other new releases this week were in it) The supremely talented Ronan Keatings new album was no4!!!!, I think
Very strange and worrying, as a lot of sales will come from supermarkets, hopefully it's not a common occurence elsewhere.
I was in Sainsbury's yesterday and was curious to see where the album was in their chart. Yes, you've probably guessed - not a sign of it! Everything else that was released at the same time was there eg Ronan Keating, The Vaccines etc! I just don't understand the marketing and distribution of MK's albums! :-\
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Val please don't complain. You have become, finally, the follower of a cult musician. So cult that no big stores, stocks his records. ;D
I know you have become involuntary, but doesn't it feel great? Only a chosen few, talking about it in dark forums, spending their days and hours guessing where the CDs are and if we will ever be able to get our hands on any of them. The limited edition is an impossible thing, even Mark doesn't have one, and the 3 CD version a legendary holy grail that only people in Germany have. ;D
Well, I used to follow many bands and discographies, but I have never come across such a @*!@ distribution for a regular release. Oh, how I miss the 7'' & 12" singles. They were setting the machine in motion at least a month ahead and the album used this running machine to great effect. Now you only have EPK's (for God sake electronic press kit, is like giving one peanut to an elephant) and downloadable single (sic) songs. No wonder nothing works from then on. We are only the hard core fans, that we look for it, so we find. The casual buyer has to see it in front of him to be reminded. A simple marketing rule, that all these marketing geniuses forget. Except if they try to prove something to us or MK.
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I like the cult musician thing...
Quite cool
;D
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Yes, vgonis and jbaent, you are both quite right! I feel much better about it now - far superior to the average CD buyer! 8)
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Mark who? Never heard of him. A great guitar player? Like J.J. who? No, not here. We only have CDs that sell 100 or more. If we don't achieve this goal, the management will shut down this department and I really need my job. Have instead the latest Adele CD. And if you want one of the elder, try Patti Smith. I have brought 5 copies from her latest album but it doesn't sell. It was the last time for her.
An almost artificial dialog from a CD shop in Greece.
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3Pints I thought you were a Brit!
Anyway, I found a way to deal with the situation. I convinced myself that the release date is 31 September, ( ;) ) so all I have to do is wait.
I guess the good old DS days that they were selling records like bread are long gone, so the young ones (20-22) that serve at the shops, haven't even heard of him.
I don't know what happened, I guess we will never learn, but an apology would at least soften the blow.
I know that they produce many copies of the simple release and 4-6 months after they have it on sale, so it practically costs them nothing, the profits come from the expensive editions, which would be limited, if we knew the exact number of copies produced. 1 million copies are hardly limited. 9999 copies are OK.
Hi Vgonis,
Hehe..... Your first thought was absolutely right. I'm living in Canada though. :D
Yeah, I keep forgetting that as Mark has got older, so have I, and the clerks in the shops now are mostly of a younger generation and listen to other things.
Oh well. Even with the gradual demise of record shops, I'm still able to find most of the new music I want to buy one way or another, so over all, I'm happy.
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Mark who? Never heard of him. A great guitar player? Like J.J. who? No, not here. We only have CDs that sell 100 or more. If we don't achieve this goal, the management will shut down this department and I really need my job. Have instead the latest Adele CD. And if you want one of the elder, try Patti Smith. I have brought 5 copies from her latest album but it doesn't sell. It was the last time for her.
An almost artificial dialog from a CD shop in Greece.
Lol! This is sooo true...they stare at you cross-eyed and say.."Who?...Oh yeah..That guy...he's still alive? We have a vast selection of lovely top-ten sellers if you are interested." :disbelief