A Mark In Time
Previous Albums => Privateering (2012) => Topic started by: Leprechaun on September 06, 2012, 09:49:58 PM
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I think Why aye man had been played enough times. Any suggestions which tune from the new album should be the opener on the next tour?
For me it's: Corned beef city (for a powerful, rocky start)
What dou you all think?
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Fare Thee Well Northumberland.
LE
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Gator Blood
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It's usually a new one and has to have some pace to fire up the audience. I'm inclined to agree that Corned Beef would do it and he's opened with slide before: Right Now in '06 and Donegan in the '07 showcases sometimes. It would give Jimmy a chance to shine too!
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The set list for the tour will be -
Corned Beef City
What It Is
Sailing to Philadelphia
Coyote
Haul Away
Hill Farmer Blues
Romeo and Juliet
Sultans of Swing
Done With Boneparte
Privateering
Marbletown
Speedway at Nazareth
Telegraph Road
Brothers in Arms
So Far Away
Seattle
Continuing the "insert new song in the old setlist here" tradition. You heard it here first ;)
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I bet you're not far off there! I don't think they'll do Coyote this time around though, great though it was. Let's just hope you're wrong because I'd love to hear some others from the album like Submariner and Bluebird.
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We can make polls :
1. Which songs of the new album would you like to hear
2. Which songs of the old setlists do you want to go out
People have to think carefully before they answer.
If we have a lot of replies I will mail it to Guy by the end of the year (that's a long time before rehearsals).
It won't help I think, but who knows. When we have real good numbers of people joining the poll.
I would say people can choose 3 songs In and 3 songs Out.
Only one vote per member.
Someone has time to set up those polls?
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Gator Blood
Hot or what
Haul away
Privateering
Sailing to Philadelphia
Hill Farmer Blues
Romeo and Juliet
Sultans of Swing
Kingome of Gold
Marbletown
Corned Beef City
Seattle
Speedway at Nazareth
Brothers in Arms
Money again
Submariner
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I think there's a better chance if the selection is realistic. Let's face it, MK's had a core of backbone songs ever since the GH tour. (I'm one of those who actually like DWB, I only grew tired on the joke with Richard when I heard it the 5th time or so :)
I'd like to see two polls. One where we can name which song would be the best starter and one where we get to pick three songs from Privateering that we want to see in the setlist.
But I guess there's always someone who wants to see a poll about which poll to choose ;D
edit: oh, and Corned Beef as a starter for sure! (and Beef Wellington for the main course....)
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Why not let them know what songs we want out (democratic chosen, you never can please everyone)
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Realistic
Why aye man
Corned Beef City
Privateering
What it is
Sailing to Philly
I used to could
Marbletown
Haul Away
Done with B
R&J
Sultans
Speedway
Iron Hand or The man's too strong
Hillfarmer's
So far away
Piper to the end
Not so realistic
Corned Beef City
<<songs>>
Metroland
Sultans
Tunnel of love
Going home
(and it still would have been the best show ever)
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CBC, I would say. 8)
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1. Gator Blood
2. Why Aye Man
3. Haul Away
4. Sailing to Philadelphia
5. Corned Beef City
6. Hill Farmer's Blues
7. Romeo And Juliet
8. Sultans Of Swing
9. Privateering
10. Today is okay
11. Song For Sonny Liston
12. Marbletown
13. Telegraph Road
14. Speedway At Nazareth
15. Brothers in Arms
16. So Far Away
17. Seattle
I suggest a game : everyone posts his setlist, that could be the closest to reality.
And the winner(s) wins ???to be defined ???
who would have guessed Cannibals would be the opener for the KTGC tour ?
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Ok, it was all about an opener, but here is my guess for the next set list. Think of me on April 23rd...: ;)
Corned Beef City
Cleaning My Gun
What It Is
Sailing To Philadelphia
Hill Farmer's Blues
Haul Away
Romeo And Juliet
Sultans Of Swing
Privateering
Marbletown
Song For Sonny Liston
Today Is Okay
Speedway At Nazareth
Telegraph Road
Brothers In Arms
Piper To The End
LE
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Yon Two Crows! with an extended outro
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What uninspired set lists.Its about time the band came out of their comfort zone and played some different songs and a longer show.
10-12 songs from the new album 4 or 5 from his earlier mk records and 3-4 dire straits songs ,tol,solid rock,lady writer and bia would do for me.Also rotate songs so that each set list has min 3-5 changes every night.This is something most artists do so why these "master" musicians can't is beyond me.
Its not cheap to go to a concert playing the same set lists again and again is not really giving of your best.Still don't suppose much will change from previous tours,and as for requests don't even think about that.
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Couldn't agree more with the above. If musicians are truly masters they can play anything or adapt at the drop of a hat, rather than just go on autopilot through a pre-programmed set.
When Prince played the 02 for 31 nights a few years ago, he and his band had rehearsed 100 songs. The set list was never the same twice and often even the band didn't know what they were going to play until Prince gave the signal on stage, usually mid-jam. Now THAT'S master musicianship.
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Of course you're right.
Go to Bruce Springsteen's site and look at the setlists. They're never the same.
MK is different and he always plays the same setlist, unfortunately, though the messages we send to GF, we won't change him...
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Not only does Bruce not play the same set every night but he usually pulls out a rarity or a tour premiere to make each show that much more special.
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Not only does Bruce not play the same set every night but he usually pulls out a rarity or a tour premiere to make each show that much more special.
Yes, it's hard to imagine Mark on the 2013 tour (after performances of Single Handed Sailor and It Never Rains) saying "Here's a B side that was only available on the Portugese pressing of Money for Nothing that I'm going to do because I feel like it".
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I
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Jbaent,
you're the most optimitic ! :lol
only already played live songs !!!
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I think I go cancel my tix ::)
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Jbaent,
you're the most optimitic ! :lol
only already played live songs !!!
No, I
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His setlist will be predictable, as always. But ending his show with one of the Local Hero tunes (Wild Theme of Going Home) would be great. Is a little bit a tradition and without the famous Local Hero theme, a show isn't complete.
Regards,
Lars B.
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I love Going Home and Wild Theme both, but I must say that Pipers was a good end too.
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I love Going Home and Wild Theme both, but I must say that Pipers was a good end too.
Yes but it was for the Get Lucky tour, as If this is goodbye / Why worry were for the Emmylou tour...
This is another tour so I guess GL songs will be out, I just hope he plays Get Lucky to remember that record ;)
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Changing the setlist every night is probably a tall order, but changing it (radically) every tour is not much to ask. It's not exactly free charity shows he's putting on either, and some people travel far and stay in hotels to see him. About time he does something about this.
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A few days later, Guy answered "We have a US tour to think of first..." which was of course a very true statement. We all seem to expect a more or less same US Bob set list as last year, which will probably be the case. And in your minds and because of pre-sale of course we are already discussing the 2013 one. . When they return from that tour in Nov., they will probably start rehearsing again end of March or early April 2013 again. If the tour has been going well and they think it all fitted, I see no big chances for us that there will be BIG set list changes. Longer shows of course, but the basic set list will be the MK/BD one, I am sure...
If you expect surprises every night and changing set lists every second evening, MK is not just right for you! And in fact he would answer that he HAS changed the set lists of every tour!
LE
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I know some are in favor of dropping TR, which I would consider as a terrible move... this song, the most progressing that Mark has ever done, became such a part of a MK concert that I would be really sad if it was dropped. I hope it won't follow the path of WOL - played slower and slower until it was dropped... (not that I miss WOL, though - the worse song than Mark ever wrote !). I really hope that 1) TR will be played and 2) that 2013 will go back to the 1996/2001/2005 roots, given the faster pace noticed in 2011 for songs like WII...
The only thing that could make forgive TR being dropped is.... if Mark decides to replace it with TOL :)) That would be something. The sax/piano/guitar intro could be dropped, as well as the break in the middle, to save energy (I know this song is quite demanding, even more than TOL). Even played just like on the wonderful MM album would make me happy (let alone the crazy extensions done in 83/85).
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The only thing that could make forgive TR being dropped is.... if Mark decides to replace it with TOL :)) That would be something. The sax/piano/guitar intro could be dropped, as well as the break in the middle, to save energy (I know this song is quite demanding, even more than TOL). Even played just like on the wonderful MM album would make me happy (let alone the crazy extensions done in 83/85).
TOL instead of TR is a dream..... but a very nice one! Of just do it like in 1991/1992. Play them both, one night TOL, one night TR. And I like the way he played TOL in 91/92. Short intro with piano and guitar end nice 'break' with the band introductions.
Regards,
Lars B.
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The only thing that could make forgive TR being dropped is.... if Mark decides to replace it with TOL :)) That would be something. The sax/piano/guitar intro could be dropped, as well as the break in the middle, to save energy (I know this song is quite demanding, even more than TOL). Even played just like on the wonderful MM album would make me happy (let alone the crazy extensions done in 83/85).
TOL instead of TR is a dream..... but a very nice one! Of just do it like in 1991/1992. Play them both, one night TOL, one night TR. And I like the way he played TOL in 91/92. Short intro with piano and guitar end nice 'break' with the band introductions.
Regards,
Lars B.
Indeed. Unlike most people here who think than BiA versions of TOl are the best, my very favourite is Munich'91. Not for the intro though - it is too reduced compared to 83/85; but the "romantic" end solo on the Pensa is the best thing I ever heard in my life. But again, we are alone my friend... :)
I love Alchemy though - superb intro, less overdrive, shorter solo than in 85 but very efficient and touching. Which they already had the cheesy but lovely "Tunnel of Loooooooooove" backing vocals that they added only in 85....
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TR could stay as it's a genuinely interesting song that's long enough to do something interesting with, lke on the GL tour when there was a piano motiff added. SoS at a push too because it's so iconic, with the guitar solo and all.
But I always groan when R&J or BIA starts in the same way I do when I go and see Clapton and hear the opening bars of Cocaine or Wonderful Tonight. I can never understand why they get so much cheering. Casual fans with greatest hits albums wanting a bit of song recognition, I suppose.
I will also hurl my programme at the stage in protest if I hear STP again next time round.
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I will also hurl my programme at the stage in protest if I hear STP again next time round.
So will I! On the MK/BD tour it was spoiled for me by Jim's piano :disbelief - it was beautiful with Matt and Mark's interplay.
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We can make polls :
1. Which songs of the new album would you like to hear
2. Which songs of the old setlists do you want to go out
People have to think carefully before they answer.
If we have a lot of replies I will mail it to Guy by the end of the year (that's a long time before rehearsals).
It won't help I think, but who knows. When we have real good numbers of people joining the poll.
I would say people can choose 3 songs In and 3 songs Out.
Only one vote per member.
Someone has time to set up those polls?
I feel for a good poll, see above. If I send it to Guy you never know if it helps (just a little). It's a signal. Sending individual posts to Guy will only irritate him. But if we do a poll where a lot of people voted. he only gets one mail with the poll in it. It's democratic. Individual posts aren't.
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Hear ye, hear ye!
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Yes, a poll! ;D
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Or even better: How about we conduct this poll, and after a couple of months or longer, one of the editors print the results and send a letter to Mark's management?
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That would lead to the decision which songs are NEVER played again...
LE
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It's a nice idea, but I can't imagine that our opinion would be taken into account. I think it would be about as democratic in outcomes as the European Union.
Besides, they're probably well underway in their rehearsals of What it Is, Sailing To Philadelphia, Romeo and...ZZz....zzz...zzzz... *head slumps onto laptop*
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I would love "Wag the dog" as an opener, but it will not happen, I know.
I heard this song live at Lucca 2001 and was beatiful.
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But remember, you always miss 100% of the shots you don't take. Might be worth a try. Then again, I think Mark is the kind of guy who could react negatively and go "Is that right? They want a big change, do they? How about I play Sailing To Philadelphia and Romeo and Juliette them back to back. Twice! And as an encore! How's that for a change!".
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During their last tour, the mighty Steely Dan had polls on their website asking which album the fans going to the concerts would like to hear in its entirety. I think there was a choice of two that altered as the tour went on. The winning album was then played in full from first track to last at the forthcoming concerts.
What a fantastic way to get fans interested, keep them happy and to shake up the setlist.
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It is democratic as everyone vote instead of whining.
If we don't try, there will be no result anyway.
If people send posts to Guy he will be irritated, but if we send only 2 polls, you never know. No try .. no result
And the same mail can be send to PCM, no problem.
By the way it's meant for tour 2013. Rehearsal will only start March/April. So if we do the poll till beginning/mid January and send the results, there's plenty of time.
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Hear ye! Hear ye!
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Didnt he open with Cannibals during KTGC tour, so it could be from an older album.
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Something needs to be done re setlists - but i fear changing things would be akin to changing the course of a glacier....
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Something needs to be done re setlists - but i fear changing things would be akin to changing the course of a glacier....
Ask the icelandic people, they've done it before ;-)
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Hi,
It would be great to hear " I Think I Love You Too Much " as an opener ;)
I think " Corn Beef City " would be a good solution too :)
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Something needs to be done re setlists - but i fear changing things would be akin to changing the course of a glacier....
Ask the icelandic people, they've done it before ;-)
if thats the case perhaps we can lobby the Icelandic Government to send a message on our behalf to PCM.....but seeing what a hash they have made of their banking system....maybe not! ;D
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I think Why aye man had been played enough times. Any suggestions which tune from the new album should be the opener on the next tour?
For me it's: Corned beef city (for a powerful, rocky start)
What dou you all think?
I wish WAM was played more often. Didn't get it in my last 10 shows. :'(
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Something needs to be done re setlists - but i fear changing things would be akin to changing the course of a glacier....
Ask the icelandic people, they've done it before ;-)
if thats the case perhaps we can lobby the Icelandic Government to send a message on our behalf to PCM.....but seeing what a hash they have made of their banking system....maybe not! ;D
Will be there in 2 weeks, so can start a lobby ;-) No with glaciers they didn't do much, except some walls to prevent them from going the wrong way. But I saw some movies about the vulcano eruption in 1973 at Heimaey, a little island south from Iceland. It's a fishermens island. The eruption was huge, all people were evacuated. About 100 men stayed and tried to save as much as possible. They managed to stop the lavaflow before it closed the whole harbour, which would mean the end of the living of 1000's of people.
Except banking, some of the bankers weren't good at it as we know now, they really are inventive people.
Whereelse will you find a country that manage to build a bridge (of about 70 meters) which was flooded away in 6 days. In the Netherlands governments would have been debating about it for at least 6 weeks ;-)
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I have a feeling that this 2013 will be special.
First, it will be just 30 years after the Alchemy concert in Hammersmith Odeon. Maybe a good time for "Alchemy II" and a seminal live release, to celebrate a 17-year old solo careeer ?
Second, Mark has shown more energy than ever in 2011... maybe time for a return to the faster pace of DS/96/01/05 concerts ?
Third... well forgive me I am getting crazy and borderline here, I know... but, 2013 will be the (sad) 20th anniversary of Mark's father passing away.
Since we all know that rumour of a possible explanation for Mark not playing TOL anymore i- because the song would have been his dad's favourite... could it be that Mark would think than 20 years of moaning is enough, and that's the best way to honor his dad's memory would be to play TOL live again ? would'nt have to be the crazy bullistic versions we had in 83/85/91... but maybe just a short, simple, intimate one... like the Old Grey Whiste test one on Alchemy DVD.... And since the other explation for Mark not playing TOL anymore was that Mark would not have the kind of energy that this song demands anymore... given the fact that he is now energetic again... all this combined... could this mean the return of TOL and the release (at last) of a Blu-Ray ?
Maybe I'm just crazy after all.
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I think/hope this could be a nice setlist. A few changes but i think after all these years the setlists need some.
Corned Beef City
Setting me up
What it is
Sailing
Privateering
Yon two Crows
Hill Farmer Blues
R&J
Sultans
Marbletown
Kingdom of Gold
So far from the Clyde
Telegraph
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Seattle
Brothers in Arms
Money For Nothing
Local Hero
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Everything is possible but i have my doubts about So far from the clyde, Seattle and Money.... :-\
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I think/hope this could be a nice setlist. A few changes but i think after all these years the setlists need some.
Corned Beef City
Setting me up
What it is
Sailing
Privateering
Yon two Crows
Hill Farmer Blues
R&J
Sultans
Marbletown
Kingdom of Gold
So far from the Clyde
Telegraph
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Seattle
Brothers in Arms
Money For Nothing
Local Hero
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Everything is possible but i have my doubts about So far from the clyde, Seattle and Money.... :-\
Money for nothing can be left out for me, same as Setting me up. No chance they will be in I guess.
WII and STP should be replaced too, heard them already a lot all those years
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Sorry Ingrid, but MFN and SMU would be just my cup of tea. Time to get the sports cars out boys! ;D
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Everything is possible but i have my doubts about So far from the clyde, Seattle and Money.... :-\
But remember that HFB and a few unexpected others did see the light of the stage on 2008 (and 2010 as well). The one I still don't expect is TOL but who knows?
Actually very surprised to hear that MFN was played again in full.
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Everything is possible but i have my doubts about So far from the clyde, Seattle and Money.... :-\
But remember that HFB and a few unexpected others did see the light of the stage on 2008 (and 2010 as well). The one I still don't expect is TOL but who knows?
Actually very surprised to hear that MFN was played again in full.
Well, he has played TR since 1996 at every concert now and you get the impression he wasn't satisfied with it (hence it's exclusion from the Madrid download) so perhaps TOL isn't such a bad shout after all...
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Well, he has played TR since 1996 at every concert now and you get the impression he wasn't satisfied with it (hence it's exclusion from the Madrid download) so perhaps TOL isn't such a bad shout after all...
Actually TR was also excluded:
- From the "On the night" release, even on DVD
- From the "Sultans of Swing" best-of and even from the Live Bonus CD from 96 !!
- From all the small live releases since then (Why Aye Man single, TRD Bonus CD)...
Does Mark that the only time he got it right was Alchemy ?? no doubt that this is a fantastic version, but this is not at all the only one... an alternative one would be welcome....
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Hi,
It would be great to hear " I Think I Love You Too Much " as an opener ;)
Surely, great tune. But somehow those "B-sided" songs are never on set lists ::)
But for me (even as repeating as it would be) Border Reiver is, and will remain best opener, ever.
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I like "Corned Beef City" as an opener..perfect to get the place rockin'. I also think that "Setting me up" would be a perfect fit for this tour..it has some similarities to "Got to have something", "I used to could" and "Gator Blood"..especially the later. Not sure if we would see that many new songs though..Mark has a habit of 'recycling' songs from a couple albums back..like "Cannibals" in 2008 ; "Coyote" and "Prairie Wedding" in 2010. Maybe this time out..we will hear some different tunes from Shrangri-La..or KTGC..personally I would love to hear a live cover of "Punish the Monkey" or "Madame Geneva's"..although the later may be a bit to dark to play live. If Nigel Hitchcock is on board for the tour..maybe we will hear "In the Sky". :)
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Oh well..just noticed today that Guy put up on his forum that Nigel was only with them for the RR promo...damn. :(
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Hi Hop,
I was saying something similar somewhere else today (on another thread or another MK forum). The core of the setlist since the Shangri La tour has been more or less the same so maybe they could "rest" Why Aye Man, What it is, STP, Done with Bonaparte, Speedway, Marbletown & even HFB & replace them with other solo material. The problem is that MK plays what HE wants and that probably means what HE thinks his best songs are.
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If i had the power...
SPEEDWAY AT NAZARETH
Corned Beef City
So far Away
Blood and Water
Bluebird
Postcards
Sultans
Romeo
I used to could
Gator
Why Worry
Cleaning My Gun
Je suis desole
Calling Elvis
Private Investigations
Silvertown
MFN
Piper
Going Home
and change 3/4 songs every night...
but it will be the same set list from ever and ever ( i like the previous songs, but he can do, he should do different ) and Portugal isn
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I don't think "Corned Beef City" would be a great opener, neither was Cannibals in 2008 (and was way inferior to the '96 version), was just too happy that WOL was dropped although Cannibals 2008 had much of the WOL style.
I agree about Border Reiver beeing the best solo opener ever as was DTW in the Straits days.
WYM could have competed if only it had featured the 2002 band instead that ugly bouzouki sound on it - ruined from day first of 2005.
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Bouzoui is an essential part, from the recording on the album it was there from take one!! You can hate it of course nevertheless... :lol
What about Darling Pretty? I agree that Border Reiver was one of the best openers in the last years, but it should compete closely with Darling Pretty, very powerful and full of energy... not sure if MK would or could deliver something like that in 2013...
LE
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Bouzoui is an essential part, from the recording on the album it was there from take one!! You can hate it of course nevertheless... :lol
What about Darling Pretty? I agree that Border Reiver was one of the best openers in the last years, but it should compete closely with Darling Pretty, very powerful and full of energy... not sure if MK would or could deliever something like that in 2013...
LE
Darling pretty is nice at first, but I was bored with after sometime.
I first ever heard WAM in 2002, live at the Shepehrd Bush. Sounded fantastic. Then the album came out, listened it once and ever since then when I put TRD in my stereo I jump directly to track n
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Bouzoui is an essential part, from the recording on the album it was there from take one!! You can hate it of course nevertheless... :lol
What about Darling Pretty? I agree that Border Reiver was one of the best openers in the last years, but it should compete closely with Darling Pretty, very powerful and full of energy... not sure if MK would or could deliever something like that in 2013...
LE
Darling pretty is nice at first, but I was bored with after sometime.
I first ever heard WAM in 2002, live at the Shepehrd Bush. Sounded fantastic. Then the album came out, listened it once and ever since then when I put TRD in my stereo I jump directly to track n
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Going back to the new album, I think a possible opener also could be "Don't forget your Hat". Cool first opening bars, and a good oportunity for every band member to play a little first "intro" part... the harmonica could be replaced by another plinky-planky by Jim... or a drum solo by Ian... ;)... I would imagine some kind of opening style as in 2001 with Calling Elvis. That does not automatically mean that Don't Forget Your Hat is one of my favourites of the album, but stil...
LE
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Ive just seen the set list for the RR promo evening and ive got a bad feeling about the 2013 tour.....lots of songs a lot of us wouldnt want resurected or given a rest this time around..... :'(
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Bouzoui is an essential part, from the recording on the album it was there from take one!! You can hate it of course nevertheless... :lol
What about Darling Pretty? I agree that Border Reiver was one of the best openers in the last years, but it should compete closely with Darling Pretty, very powerful and full of energy... not sure if MK would or could deliever something like that in 2013...
LE
Darling pretty is nice at first, but I was bored with after sometime.
I first ever heard WAM in 2002, live at the Shepehrd Bush. Sounded fantastic. Then the album came out, listened it once and ever since then when I put TRD in my stereo I jump directly to track n
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Check out Guy's Facebook Thread - the guys seem to have been asked to perform at the re-branded Range Rover launch - there are some questions asked about setlists etc in the forum....
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Still, a fantastic song, I do not understand why you skip it on the album !
Because when I want to listen to WAM I put the bonus single with the Shepherd Bush live version on it.
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Still, a fantastic song, I do not understand why you skip it on the album !
Because when I want to listen to WAM I put the bonus single with the Shepherd Bush live version on it.
Same here! ;)
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Check out Guy's Facebook Thread - the guys seem to have been asked to perform at the re-branded Range Rover launch - there are some questions asked about setlists etc in the forum....
Schmonka - see this thread:
http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php/topic,2634.0.html
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Hm, I have the RPD bonus CD, too but I think I did never listen to it in fact.... will give it a try.... ;D
about bonus discs:
I burned me a copy of Privateering Disc 2 and put also all 4 bonus tracks on it - now, if i decide to listen to the CD properly and not mp3 via stick or mp3 player, I don't take the original CD but the copy which I store now in my Deluxe Edition... what struck me was the fact that after burning all 24 tracks, there were still 15 minutes possible playing time wasted on the blank CD... :disbelief
LE
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Check out Guy's Facebook Thread - the guys seem to have been asked to perform at the re-branded Range Rover launch - there are some questions asked about setlists etc in the forum....
Schmonka - see this thread:
http://www.amarkintime.org/forum/index.php/topic,2634.0.html
As ever Thank you Superval!
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Hm, I have the RPD bonus CD, too but I think I did never listen to it in fact.... will give it a try.... ;D
about bonus discs:
I burned me a copy of Privateering Disc 2 and put also all 4 bonus tracks on it - now, if i decide to listen to the CD properly and not mp3 via stick or mp3 player, I don't take the original CD but the copy which I store now in my Deluxe Edition... what struck me was the fact that after burning all 24 tracks, there were still 15 minutes possible playing time wasted on the blank CD... :disbelief
LE
There is a beautiful version of BIA from Toronto on the RPD bonus disc - it's one of my favourites.
btw I had the thought of putting the four bonus songs on disc 2 - you have reminded me to get on with it! ;)
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Hm, I have the RPD bonus CD, too but I think I did never listen to it in fact.... will give it a try.... ;D
about bonus discs:
I burned me a copy of Privateering Disc 2 and put also all 4 bonus tracks on it - now, if i decide to listen to the CD properly and not mp3 via stick or mp3 player, I don't take the original CD but the copy which I store now in my Deluxe Edition... what struck me was the fact that after burning all 24 tracks, there were still 15 minutes possible playing time wasted on the blank CD... :disbelief
LE
blasphemy!! best BIA of recent
best STP...
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I really doubt that STP from 2001 could sound any better than later versions. Mark couldn't sing right then, and the 2010 versions were much better.
I stopped caring about Brothers In Arms somewhere after 2005... If it was not so late in the set always, it would be a perfect occasion for a pee break.. ;D
LE
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BIA 1996 for me - The Globe. I want that one for my funerals.
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BIA 1996 for me - The Globe. I want that one for my funerals.
"Funerals" ? You mean you're having more than one? :o
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STP was magic in 2001; great outro solo's by Mark and that white Strat sounded lovely. His vocal was great too; nice, rough and unmistakable unlike today where it's unremarkable. I miss those days.
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just check it LE and rewrite..
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BIA 1996 for me - The Globe. I want that one for my funerals.
"Funerals" ? You mean you're having more than one? :o
In french the word in used in its plural form so should I correct it to "my funeral" ?
The only sad thing about it is although I will probably be present at it and in good place to, I guess I won't be able to listen and enjoy it that time. Paradoxal systeme.
Hopefully everybody else will, fully daft persons excepted.
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Hah sry I just realized that topic is Privateering-song related :-[
Hm, well that exclude Border Reiver doesn't it?
2 be honest, I dunno...CBC is the only one with that kind of energy but maybe way to straight forward...maybe Got To Have Something...but I'm afraid my honest answer is the none. Album is fantastic but does not have openers as I would love to hear :-\
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Hah sry I just realized that topic is Privateering-song related :-[
Hm, well that exclude Border Reiver doesn't it?
2 be honest, I dunno...CBC is the only one with that kind of energy but maybe way to straight forward...maybe Got To Have Something...but I'm afraid my honest answer is the none. Album is fantastic but does not have openers as I would love to hear :-\
Mark did open neither STP, SL and KTGK tour with song from the related album.
Although officially to promote the latest album (but actualy now with very little input from the record company), this sound just as an excuse to go on the road and play whatever he want to.
"Second opening" night of the KTGC tour even featured twice more "new played" songs from TRP than KTGC itself! (7. Hill Farmer's Blues - 10. Marbletown - 11. Daddy's Gone to Knoxville - 12. Devil Baby)
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Hah sry I just realized that topic is Privateering-song related :-[
Hm, well that exclude Border Reiver doesn't it?
2 be honest, I dunno...CBC is the only one with that kind of energy but maybe way to straight forward...maybe Got To Have Something...but I'm afraid my honest answer is the none. Album is fantastic but does not have openers as I would love to hear :-\
Mark did open neither STP, SL and KTGK tour with song from the related album.
Although officially to promote the latest album (but actualy now with very little input from the record company), this sound just as an excuse to go on the road and play whatever he want to.
"Second opening" night of the KTGC tour even featured twice more "new played" songs from TRP than KTGC itself! (7. Hill Farmer's Blues - 10. Marbletown - 11. Daddy's Gone to Knoxville - 12. Devil Baby)
It was SO wonderful and such a great surprise to hear those songs from RPD and since then two of those songs have become long-term favourites, of course! I still live in hope of hearing Fare Thee Well and You Don't Know You're Born from that album - maybe 2013! :)
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It was SO wonderful and such a great surprise to hear those songs from RPD and since then two of those songs have become long-term favourites, of course! I still live in hope of hearing Fare Thee Well and You Don't Know You're Born from that album - maybe 2013! :)
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You Don't Know You're Born would merge perfectly into Seattle because they have virtually the same guitar riff, so it may be a possibility.
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Hah sry I just realized that topic is Privateering-song related :-[
Hm, well that exclude Border Reiver doesn't it?
2 be honest, I dunno...CBC is the only one with that kind of energy but maybe way to straight forward...maybe Got To Have Something...but I'm afraid my honest answer is the none. Album is fantastic but does not have openers as I would love to hear :-\
Mark did open neither STP, SL and KTGK tour with song from the related album.
Although officially to promote the latest album (but actualy now with very little input from the record company), this sound just as an excuse to go on the road and play whatever he want to.
"Second opening" night of the KTGC tour even featured twice more "new played" songs from TRP than KTGC itself! (7. Hill Farmer's Blues - 10. Marbletown - 11. Daddy's Gone to Knoxville - 12. Devil Baby)
In fact, even more from TRD: (2. Why Aye Man - 7. Hill Farmer's Blues - 10. Marbletown - 11. Daddy's Gone to Knoxville - 12. Devil Baby)
Anyway, I would like to have CBC as the opener, and to hear much more than 2 new songs...
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You Don't Know You're Born would merge perfectly into Seattle because they have virtually the same guitar riff, so it may be a possibility.
yes indeed, the chord progression /licks are the same, and iwth the same Marvin tone, but :
- both lead licks are a the end of each song
- YDKYB tempo is faster than Seatlle
so I don't see how it could be merged
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Seattle is more like The Car Was the One than YDKYB in my opinion.
I bet Mk's "have you got anything else" joke is used this tour. He comes up with a good line every couple of years then does it to death. :)
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I think that Privateering, itself, would be a great opener. Gets me off my seat. Then slow down the pace with Miss You Blues. Follow that with CBC. Then batting cleanup, Bluebird. I think that'll set the mood for the rest of the night.
Here's my choices, even though I know that it'll never happen :'(
Privateering
Miss You Blues
Corned Beef City
Bluebird
Sailing to Philadelphia
Hills Farmers Blues
Redbud Tree
Romeo & Juliette
Sultans of Swing
Radio City Serenade
Dream of the Drowned Submariner
Don't You Get It
Telegraph Road
Yon Two Crows
ENCORES
Haul Away
Brothers In Arms
Silvertown Blues
2nd Encore
Follow The Ribbon
Going Home
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I Used To Could
A fantastic good-mood-song. Not possible to listen to this song without everything in movement.
:D :D :D :D :D
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Did I read it correctly that Guy gave us a hint in one of the answers on his Forum that Yon Two Crows made it to the new setlist? I always thought this piece has such a great 'live' potential so I am very happy it this turns out to be true.
...one of my favourite songs on the record and indeed in the setlist
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concerning the killer song not included on Get lucky Guy wrote:
I think I was referring to Yon Two Crows
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I don't think any of the new songs makes a very good opener. I'd like to hear So Far Away as an opener again, and Darling Pretty has never been played live in the US, so that would be a good selection also.
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concerning the killer song not included on Get lucky Guy wrote:
I think I was referring to Yon Two Crows
Killer?
It must be before they re-recorded the song...
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Wow, TJ, very cool avatar! :o
Second coolest of AMIT I would say. Closely following Jbaents... 8)
LE
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Wow, TJ, very cool avatar! :o
Second coolest of AMIT I would say. Closely following Jbaents... 8)
LE
Absolutely!
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We should have an avatar poll/competition to find out who has the most liked one! ;D
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Wow, TJ, very cool avatar! :o
Second coolest of AMIT I would say. Closely following Jbaents... 8)
LE
Thank youuuuuuuu!
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I Used To Could
A fantastic good-mood-song. Not possible to listen to this song without everything in movement.
:D :D :D :D :D
I agree with you. And this song contains two guitar solos.
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I was reading this topic from the beggining and was thinking about the average gig-goer, who is not a die-hard fan and just want to listen to the songs MK is known for. A show for members of this list would've to be a incredible mix of never played before gems and extended versions of some of the new album. But I turn to the average guy and if he goes to a MK gig and doesn't listen to anything on the mood of MfN, BiA, TR or ToL, R&J, WoL, SoS, he will return home and never again will take a glimpse at anything the man is doing in the future. Perhaps he'll also break some old DS cds in disgust.
So I think that MK is in dire straits coz he has to please three kinds os expectations in his tours. Firstly, he has to do it for himself. Rudiger and Done with Bonaparte maybe are the best examples of this fulfilment. Secondly, for the primary fans, to whom he always plays new stuff or extended versions. And thirdly, but not least, he has to play something to the people who don't follow his solo career and are waiting to hear the oldies goldies. And I guess these are the majority of people to pops up in a show.
So, when some of us vote for the exclusion of all the biggest hits in favour of obscure tunes, I fear for the success of the gig. It would be heaven for the die hard fans? Yes indeed. But it wouldn't satisfy more than a half of the crowd.
As for me, I live in a country 8.000 km away from the closest gig. In the few shows I was able to attend (two of them in my homecountry, Brazil), I was expecting to see the man playing SoS, MfN, BiA, ToL, TR, R&J, SFA, WoL. If he had dropped it all, I would grow old mourning that I never heard him play the music that made him famous.
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I agree nababo. My brother and his wife are coming to the Liverpool gig with us and I know that both of them will want to hear some DS songs. It will be the first time they have seen MK/DS in concert and my brother loves TR. I have told him that I am pretty sure it will be played, so I hope I'm not wrong! ::) Mark is right in keeping a few of the better-known DS songs on the set-list, for people like them, who are really only familiar with DS. In fact, although I am happy to hear mainly MK solo songs myself, I do love TR, SOS and R&J and I know I would miss them if they weren't played. :)
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Hi,
I would be happy if he played SOS, TR, and BIA :D
And then solo songs for the rest............... ;D
But, a MK concert without any DS songs at all............. :disbelief
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During the 2013 tour, he should play 3 hour concerts, with a 1 hour section devoted to Dire Straits tunes. Oh yes.
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During the 2013 tour, he should play 3 hour concerts, with a 1 hour section devoted to Dire Straits tunes. Oh yes.
+1
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During the 2013 tour, he should play 3 hour concerts, with a 1 hour section devoted to Dire Straits tunes. Oh yes.
+1
+37
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Didnt he open with Cannibals during KTGC tour, so it could be from an older album.
I think the opener will be Money For Nothing for the North American Tour - it would send a message to Canada.
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look at that mofo...
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During the 2013 tour, he should play 3 hour concerts, with a 1 hour section devoted to Dire Straits tunes. Oh yes.
+1
+37
Unlikely to happen. But will we be granted with the "play everything joke"?
I guess :
Opening night 2h00-2h15
After 5 shows or so : 2h00-2h05
July : 1h45-1h50
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During the 2013 tour, he should play 3 hour concerts, with a 1 hour section devoted to Dire Straits tunes. Oh yes.
I will change that hour devoted to DS songs into one hour devoted to the Privateering album, and the rest of the concert, the good old mix of MK/DS stuff...
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After a weekend at our holiday home in Cornwall and yet again listening over and over to the wonderful album along with the deluxe bonus live disc (still waiting for the box set!)
I along with mrs Knopflerfan will go for 'I used to could' for a warmer up opener....
My father in law is so struck with 'corned beef city' and frequently quotes 'Double chips and beans' when we see him!!!
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After a weekend at our holiday home in Cornwall and yet again listening over and over to the wonderful album along with the deluxe bonus live disc (still waiting for the box set!)
I along with mrs Knopflerfan will go for 'I used to could' for a warmer up opener....
My father in law is so struck with 'corned beef city' and frequently quotes 'Double chips and beans' when we see him!!!
That's the problem the Americans have with it; they can't get round the idea of having beans with a packet of crisps! :lol