A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: Jarle on September 07, 2012, 06:56:26 AM
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I wasn't aware of this, but suddenly I see that Mark played a 60 min set of almost entierly DS songs yesterday at a Range Rover event where they introduced their new car. Do we talk about this somewhere? Or didn't anybody knew?
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2199172/Jaguar-Land-Rover-unveils-new-super-green-hybrid-star-studded-gala--car-maker-announces-370m-investment-British-factory.html?ITO=1490
-Jarle
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Certainly interesting that mainly DS songs were played.
Wonder if they were the usual suspects, or if he slipped a couple of rarities in. (I doubt it) :)
Cheers BBB
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Some (2) photos here: http://newsroom.jaguarlandrover.com/en-in/land-rover/images?ipid=53073&altTemplate=Image%20Pack&from=26
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Has someone already asked Guy about the setlist?
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I wasn't aware of this, but suddenly I see that Mark played a 60 min set of almost entierly DS songs
-Jarle
Thanks for this Jarle, but I don't see where it mentions a 60 min set of DS songs. ???
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I wasn't aware of this, but suddenly I see that Mark played a 60 min set of almost entierly DS songs
-Jarle
Thanks for this Jarle, but I don't see where it mentions a 60 min set of DS songs. ???
Yes it does not...
Assuming this is true, the current DS subset in concerts (SoS, R&J, TR, BiA, SFA) totals around 45 min. So, even if all of them were played, that means that some others were played as well ! (unless 45 minutes out of 60 is what "mostly" means). So what could they be ? Why Worry ? Man's too strong ? Setting me up ? or, let's be crazy: 15 minutes is enough to play TOL ! :D
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What was his user name? ???
LE
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So maybe the charity gigs at the Royal Albert Hall next year will be for Aston Martin and Bentley... :disbelief
LE
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I'd imagine as this was a corporate :disbelief show that Mark was being paid a fee for that he'd be playing what he was told to / or there was an agreed setlist with range rover friendly songs, my guess this would major on DS tunes. I doubt that 'in my car' or 'heavy fuel' got played though. Maybe Speedway at Nazareth.
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I wasn't aware of this, but suddenly I see that Mark played a 60 min set of almost entierly DS songs
-Jarle
Thanks for this Jarle, but I don't see where it mentions a 60 min set of DS songs. ???
Someone said 60 minutes on Facebook :)
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I think this is great stuff. Dusting the cobwebs off the oldies that haven't bee played for years; there must have been some rarities! I don't think TR or TOL would have been played at a function such as this though - shorter, faster and all the well known ones would be there along with these rare ones. The National was there so R&J is a banker!
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I think this is great stuff. Dusting the cobwebs off the oldies that haven't bee played for years; there must have been some rarities! I don't think TR or TOL would have been played at a function such as this though - shorter, faster and all the well known ones would be there along with these rare ones. The National was there so R&J is a banker!
I wonder if this is the direction the MK/BD tour will take, especially as he must have been rehearsing some of these songs, maybe to please the US/Canadian fans and also to impress some of the BD fans. Maybe there will be a spin-off for us too, next year, with some lesser heard DS songs, as well as more songs from the current album.
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I would go for Portobello Belle, Wild West End and Lions then! ;D And Hand In Hand. And...
LE
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Would like to hear Six Blade Knife, that would be great, but alas a dream. My guess is any kind of 60 minute DS set would be based on a Mandela 88 set template or Egham 89 with the odd solo tune thrown in.
I don't hold out though for any notable amount of DS tunes in any forthcoming tour - MK is clearly ploughing his own furrow and has more than enough to draw from his solo catalogue.
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As much info as you'll probably find out at this link (not from facebook):
http://all4ballet.com/tag/mark-knopfler/
"The dramatic reveal culminated in a surprise seven-song performance by Mark Knopfler. Dire Straits classics including,
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If you people who have this person on your Facebooks, why haven't anybody asked him for the setlist yet?
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As someone said earlier, these would be sure bets... R&J, Sultans, Brothers in arms, So far away, Telegraph road
Could he have lifted any of 'The man's too strong' or 'Iron hand' (which have been mentioned by Guy and in later interviews)?
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There is a video of MFN:
http://www.broadcast.jaguarlandrover.com/stories/6916
Search for Knopfler.
poor sound, 40 seconds only.
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In this video you can see MK playing...
http://www.multivu.com/mnr/56593-range-rover-revealed-royal-ballet-school
Notice that there is a saxophone player!!!!!!!!
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Yes! So there IS footage. I said on another thread I think that he would bring out the hits for the US with Bob. Maybe they are rehearsing this classic! ;D
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So what I saw was:
Ian Thomas on drums, so no "cheap" promo band. Glen Worf on bass also.
There was a saxophone, but you couldn't recognize who played it.
Mark played the red Telecaster, so I am sure Walk of Life was played.
The Strat has two scenes, one looks pretty much like the twittly bits of Sultans, but guitar heads could say more about that for sure.
And Mark uses the whammy bar at one track on the Strat.
LE
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In this video you can see MK playing...
http://www.multivu.com/mnr/56593-range-rover-revealed-royal-ballet-school
Notice that there is a saxophone player!!!!!!!!
El mio es mas largo, Julito ;D
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looked like CW's hands to me :-)
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From a very brief glimpse it looked like he was playing the last part of the long version of Sultans, or maybe I'm completely wrong. 1:40 into the video: http://www.multivu.com/mnr/56593-range-rover-revealed-royal-ballet-school
WOL also there in the set.
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looked like CW's hands to me :-)
Or was it Hitchcock's? Oh, the suspense is killing me! ;)
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asked the doc for some info...
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From a very brief glimpse it looked like he was playing the last part of the long version of Sultans, or maybe I'm completely wrong. 1:40 into the video: http://www.multivu.com/mnr/56593-range-rover-revealed-royal-ballet-school
WOL also there in the set.
I agree with Sultans but what do you mean with "long part"? Any hints for that? I recognize the final solo?
The Sax is played during a song with upright bass obviously... Hmmm
LE
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From a very brief glimpse it looked like he was playing the last part of the long version of Sultans, or maybe I'm completely wrong. 1:40 into the video: http://www.multivu.com/mnr/56593-range-rover-revealed-royal-ballet-school
WOL also there in the set.
I agree with Sultans but what do you mean with "long part"? Any hints for that? I recognize the final solo?
The Sax is played during a song with upright bass obviously... Hmmm
LE
Maybe, maybe not. I got excited when I heard about the sax, then it looked in one shot that he was playing the last solo like he did in the BIA/OES days. Looked like he was enjoying himself though playing these oldies!
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In this video you can see MK playing...
http://www.multivu.com/mnr/56593-range-rover-revealed-royal-ballet-school
Notice that there is a saxophone player!!!!!!!!
El mio es mas largo, Julito ;D
Tu cara me suena...
:lol :lol :lol
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interesting to see Jodie Kidd being a fan :-)
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Money for nothing and sax for free.
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He don't play this classics for his beloved, die-hard fans but he can play for some rich business man. I'm disappointed :disbelief
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He don't play this classics for his beloved, die-hard fans but he can play for the rich business man. I'm disappointed :disbelief
+1m :disbelief
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Watching the sax on this video and it's clear to see it's not Chris! ;) It must be Nigel Hitch so it makes me wonder if they've been rehearsing with him with the intention of touring which may lead into next year too. I think that would be great news; I'd love to hear the sax back again.
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Funny to hear that Simon Pegg was in the crowd lol... Wonder if Mark called him out :)
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Watching the sax on this video and it's clear to see it's not Chris! ;) It must be Nigel Hitch so it makes me wonder if they've been rehearsing with him with the intention of touring which may lead into next year too. I think that would be great news; I'd love to hear the sax back again.
I would also love the hear sax again; I'm quite surprised that there was sax actually, I thought Mark was done with it. There was sax only in the 2002 Charity Concerts, and I guess this was more to give his -then- friend Chris White something to do than for real need; now that Chris has committed the crime to be a member of "The Straits", why take another sax player ?
Even stranger - on the video we see the say player... on MFN. I'm not aware of any version of MFN featuring sax, it just does not fit anyway. We can see him, but we can't hear him at all.... don't quite understand.
When Mark used Chris White in 2002, it was mainly for the sax solo in R&J, in Going Home, a bit in WAM, and, of course, to play Your Latest Trick, which is impossible to play without a sax. I'm quite curious what the sax player did on that show...
Any more info ? any set list ?
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I can't give you more news on this, but obviously they had a PR event two years ago at BG Studios: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KO-eDWQmyJQ
(Test of Range Rover Harman Kardon 7.1 system)
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The sax wouldn't be in MFN; it was just a video montage. They had clips of Mark with his Telecaster too all played to the background of MFN.
Maybe Mark just got on really well with Nigel and it would help them perform some new songs (e.g. Radio City) as well as breathe some life into old ones.
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Jesus, so much hectic in the holy halls.... :o, can't imagine it that busy when Mark records there - all folks have to whisper and sneak then probably...
About the sax on MfN, I am sure if it was only cut that way, maybe the picture and sound footage was not synchronized...
Have to watch it again...
Pottel will freak out when he hears what track they played in that YouTube clip... 8)
LE
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He don't play this classics for his beloved, die-hard fans but he can play for the rich business man. I'm disappointed :disbelief
+1m :disbelief
yes he's a true 'bluesman'
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Sax = Two young lovers?
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Sax = Two young lovers?
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that would be great!!
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Sax = Two young lovers?
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that would be great!!
Not really :) the Twisting by the pool EP was a joke, as Mark said himself. Can't understand why TYL made it to the setlist up to the OES tour. It certainly has its moments (cf. Hal Lindes on guitar in Alchemy) and it is quite joyful, but it does not fit with the rest...
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Well, they probably had to employ Chris White during the break AFTER Romeo, The Bug, Private Investigations, Sultans of Swing and On Every Street or Your Latest Trick and BEFORE Telegraph Road and Solid Rock.... :disbelief
;)
LE
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Well, they probably had to employ Chris White during the break AFTER Romeo, The Bug, Private Investigations, Sultans of Swing and On Every Street or Your Latest Trick and BEFORE Telegraph Road and Solid Rock.... :disbelief
;)
LE
:lol :lol
Actually I thought it rocked along quite well - far superior to the studio version. It was really just Marks tribute to Chuck Berry though, wasn't it. Also, I love Badges, Posters... Great song! ;D
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"Badges, Posters...." Fantastic! :D
Only song that makes you go looney ;D
It's a mystery that it never made it to any Greatest hits or Best of's...
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According to Guy Fletcher;
the band: mk,guy,glenn,ian,richard,nigel.
the setlist: walk of life, sailing to bla bla, romeo, sultans, MONEY FOR NOTHING, brothers, local hero, so far away.
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According to Guy Fletcher;
the band: mk,guy,glenn,ian,richard,nigel.
the setlist: walk of life, sailing to bla bla, romeo, sultans, MONEY FOR NOTHING, brothers, local hero, so far away.
Nothing new, then... Although I suppose most people like the fact that Money is back. So many brilliant DS tracks. Why always play the same? I don't get it... I love both Romeo and Brothers, but there is so much more.
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According to Guy Fletcher;
the band: mk,guy,glenn,ian,richard,nigel.
the setlist: walk of life, sailing to bla bla, romeo, sultans, MONEY FOR NOTHING, brothers, local hero, so far away.
Thanks Naif. Kind of odd he chose to play almost a whole set of Dire Straits tunes just days after releasing a new solo album, but money talks eh ?
Will be interesting to see what set materialises for the privateering tour for 60 odd quid a ticket.
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I see it that way that he maybe keeps the new fresh stuff for his fans whereas those money people get fed with "golden oldies".... well, I however can very good do without Money or Walk of Life... I really thought that one was put to... grave...
LE
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Well, it must be hard to please both the get a lifers and have a lifers at the same time ::)
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I see it that way that he maybe keeps the new fresh stuff for his fans whereas those money people get fed with "golden oldies".... well, I however can very good do without Money or Walk of Life... I really thought that one was put to... grave...
LE
True, although this setlist is actually more or less like any other MK concert from the last years, only mainly without his solo stuff...
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MFN is a milestone in my life for sure (and MK is always going on about milestone songs ::)) for if it weren't for that song then I probably wouldn't have become a fan; it was that famous guitar riff roaring out of my friend's brother's bedroom that first caught my attention all those years ago. I'd love to hear that song again because it means a lot to me, Marks wonderful music being a huge part of my life.
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MFN is a milestone in my life for sure (and MK is always going on about milestone songs ::)) for if it weren't for that song then I probably wouldn't have become a fan; it was that famous guitar riff roaring out of my friend's brother's bedroom that first caught my attention all those years ago. I'd love to hear that song again because it means a lot to me, Marks wonderful music being a huge part of my life.
I agree on that one :) Money for Nothing could make it back into the setlist...
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I see it that way that he maybe keeps the new fresh stuff for his fans whereas those money people get fed with "golden oldies".... well, I however can very good do without Money or Walk of Life... I really thought that one was put to... grave...
LE
+1. Yes Wol should have been put to grave. I am angry with this song because it gave a valid argument to those of my friends who bothered me telling me that DS was just commercial pop. How can you write WOL after writing TR ?? A real downgrade... At least MFN had musical qualities and was innovative...
Question: do we know what the sax was for ? Given the set it can only make sense on SoS and R&J. Is the famous sax break back in SOS ??? That would be news !
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MFN is a milestone in my life for sure (and MK is always going on about milestone songs ::)) for if it weren't for that song then I probably wouldn't have become a fan; it was that famous guitar riff roaring out of my friend's brother's bedroom that first caught my attention all those years ago. I'd love to hear that song again because it means a lot to me, Marks wonderful music being a huge part of my life.
I agree on that one :) Money for Nothing could make it back into the setlist...
My heartfelt plea! ;D
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MFN is a milestone in my life for sure (and MK is always going on about milestone songs ::)) for if it weren't for that song then I probably wouldn't have become a fan; it was that famous guitar riff roaring out of my friend's brother's bedroom that first caught my attention all those years ago. I'd love to hear that song again because it means a lot to me, Marks wonderful music being a huge part of my life.
I agree on that one :) Money for Nothing could make it back into the setlist...
Problem: The Music for Monserrat version was so freaking good and rocking that any other version is unlistenable in comparison....
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Question: do we know what the sax was for ? Given the set it can only make sense on SoS and R&J. Is the famous sax break back in SOS ??? That would be news !
I think best sense would it make in Local Hero? Mark changes the way he plays it and when it was Going home - Theme of the Local Hero, the "real" version with the saxophone could have been played.
LE
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Walk Of Life's return , I hope for Range Rover's VIP only !
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Do you think Nigel Hitchkock could in the line-up for the 2013 Privateering tour?
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I think putting MFN back into the mix is a big mistake. What do you ditch to make room for it? The songs that could be removed..should be to make room for new music..not to replay the song that makes light of the very reason he split DS. It makes no sense to me. He's gone in a different direction since then..why revisit it? Imho of course ;)
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Yuppie music for a yuppie event? 8)
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Yuppie music for a yuppie event? 8)
Does rather seem that way ..doesn't it? "Buy a RR today...and we will throw in some 'money for nuthin' and the old chick in the back...she's free" ;D
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I think putting MFN back into the mix is a big mistake. What do you ditch to make room for it? The songs that could be removed..should be to make room for new music..not to replay the song that makes light of the very reason he split DS. It makes no sense to me. He's gone in a different direction since then..why revisit it? Imho of course ;)
What do you mean about the new music? Sailing, donaparte, romeo, so far away, brothers, whay aye man, what it is, sfsl... or a new song like a the fish and the bird intead of money for nothing? Don't get me wrong but the songs like the fish and the bird, get lucky, haul away, true love will never fade... are album song not a performance song. You can't add so much things on it. We can listen haul away or the fish and the bird for dozen times but all the perfonmances are all the same.
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the whole thing makes me wonder MKs motives. He must have many friends in many places.
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MFN can always fit on any set list ... and it should! MK doesn`t want to play it
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I think putting MFN back into the mix is a big mistake. What do you ditch to make room for it? The songs that could be removed..should be to make room for new music..not to replay the song that makes light of the very reason he split DS. It makes no sense to me. He's gone in a different direction since then..why revisit it? Imho of course ;)
What do you mean about the new music? Sailing, donaparte, romeo, so far away, brothers, whay aye man, what it is, sfsl... or a new song like a the fish and the bird intead of money for nothing? Don't get me wrong but the songs like the fish and the bird, get lucky, haul away, true love will never fade... are album song not a performance song. You can't add so much things on it. We can listen haul away or the fish and the bird for dozen times but all the perfonmances are all the same.
I think The Fish and The Bird is one of the strangest live songs from Mark ever... So quiet, in a way. Mostly vocal... Why not pick We Can Get Wild instead?
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I think putting MFN back into the mix is a big mistake. What do you ditch to make room for it? The songs that could be removed..should be to make room for new music..not to replay the song that makes light of the very reason he split DS. It makes no sense to me. He's gone in a different direction since then..why revisit it? Imho of course ;)
What do you mean about the new music? Sailing, donaparte, romeo, so far away, brothers, whay aye man, what it is, sfsl... or a new song like a the fish and the bird intead of money for nothing? Don't get me wrong but the songs like the fish and the bird, get lucky, haul away, true love will never fade... are album song not a performance song. You can't add so much things on it. We can listen haul away or the fish and the bird for dozen times but all the perfonmances are all the same.
I agree with you on some of the songs being cut...Fish and the Bird was already cut on the GL Tour...but there are soooo many other DS songs that I would prefer to hear other than MFN. If he is going to revisit an oldie..why not Private Investigations? Or Single Handed Sailor? Or Where do you think you're going? Or Down on the Waterline? Six-blade Knife? Or ..lastly...and we all know this won't happen...TOL? It's just that there are so many other songs from the library that I would love to hear again. Just saying :)
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As much info as you'll probably find out at this link (not from facebook):
http://all4ballet.com/tag/mark-knopfler/
It's not politic at all but listen to the Range Rover music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkZXGC2KUqQ&feature=share
and to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXg5qLvodCQ&feature=related
There are some similitudes or am I tooo tired tonight?
;D
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It's not politic at all but listen to the Range Rover music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkZXGC2KUqQ&feature=share
and to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_SEfwJ6vbKY
There are some similitudes or am I tooo tired tonight?
Yes, you're right.
But MK was not present during Sarkosy's election campaign ... ;D
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It's not politic at all but listen to the Range Rover music http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hkZXGC2KUqQ&feature=share
and to this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jXg5qLvodCQ&feature=related
There are some similitudes or am I tooo tired tonight?
Yes, you're right.
But MK was not present during Sarkosy's election campaign ... ;D
So I wasn't That tired...
heheh I will try to find out who composed both thing... Just curiosity :)
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For me the more intrigant is the role of Nigel Hitchkock, I wonder if he was call just to play Romeo, Sultans (if they play the long version) and Going home, or if he
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From Guy:
Walk of Life, Sailing, Romeo, Sultans, Money, Brothers, Local Hero, So Far Away
cheers
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I remember Mark saying once that putting the band back tog ether would only be reasonable for "charity gigs".. So who knows, maybe MK donates what Ranch Rover pays for it... he's the guy who does not speak about it, and he is also the guy who never does it for money (he points out at every occasion), so it might be a possibility.
Also, he IS in rehearsal for the Dylan tour at the moment, and this Ranch Rover thing appointment fits in into this schedule. I think an opportunity to make a little low-key live act during rehearsal weeks is always a good one for Mark and the band... Together with the reasons Guy named about "to be proud of the success story ... from Britain" it makes sense to me. Remember Mark's statement about that biggest European de-icer company in Britain? He seems to think very well about what he does and where he does it.
LE
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Kind of odd he chose to play almost a whole set of Dire Straits tunes just days after releasing a new solo album, but money talks eh ?
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It isn't that strange. What would be strange is is he'd play new songs at this special event. I barely think that anyone in the audience knew that he's still active.
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I say YES to have Walk of Life and Money For Nothing back on the setlist for the coming tour!! ;D
Mark can play for three hours like Bruce Springsteen!!
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I say YES to have Walk of Life and Money For Nothing back on the setlist for the coming tour!! ;D
Mark can play for three hours like Bruce Springsteen!!
I say NO to both.
WOL simply because it is the worst song MK ever made.
MFN because although it is a great song, I'm sure I would be disappointed comparing today's version with the awesome Montserrat version with Clapton.
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I say YES to have Walk of Life and Money For Nothing back on the setlist for the coming tour!! ;D
Mark can play for three hours like Bruce Springsteen!!
I say NO to both.
WOL simply because it is the worst song MK ever made.
MFN because although it is a great song, I'm sure I would be disappointed comparing today's version with the awesome Montserrat version with Clapton.
I'd say yes to MFN if it's up to the 2005 standard. At the Hurlingham gig in 2009 MK did play it very well but the overall sound wasn't very good.
It's difficult to judge the Range Rover version as the recording is terrible, which makes the band sound like a bad teenage garage band.
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Best version of MFN ever was during the STP tour when he started the whole thing with the bluesy National bottleneck intro and Mike Henderson did a stunning part with bottleneck to his Silvertone.
That was absolutely stunning! And I'd love to hear that one again!
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Yes to MFN although I don't miss it too much. I still had fun with that one in 2005.
But definitve no no for WOL - can't stand it anymore unless EC join to add some blistering guitar licks.
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You may find two more pictures over there:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/landrovermena/7947930682/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/landrovermena/7947930582/in/set-72157631446636214
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Best version of MFN ever was during the STP tour when he started the whole thing with the bluesy National bottleneck intro and Mike Henderson did a stunning part with bottleneck to his Silvertone.
That was absolutely stunning! And I'd love to hear that one again!
+1
Absolutely, totally agree. That intro was fantastic. LOVED the build-up and then the band kicked in!
Oh please no WOL unless it's played at its original speed again!! It has become a schlager song lately. He can have Howard Carpendale sing it!
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No to WOL ..since Burger King just plastered it all over their tv ads. :disbelief
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I say YES to have Walk of Life and Money For Nothing back on the setlist for the coming tour!! ;D
Mark can play for three hours like Bruce Springsteen!!
On Springsteen's current tour, 3 hours would be a relatively short show. In Helsinki he did 4 hours PLUS a 30 minute acoustic set. Can't see Mark doing 4 and a half hours! But if he went back to 2.5 hours I'd be happy.
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I say YES to have Walk of Life and Money For Nothing back on the setlist for the coming tour!! ;D
Mark can play for three hours like Bruce Springsteen!!
On Springsteen's current tour, 3 hours would be a relatively short show. In Helsinki he did 4 hours PLUS a 30 minute acoustic set. Can't see Mark doing 4 and a half hours! But if he went back to 2.5 hours I'd be happy.
...dreaming...
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Best version of MFN ever was during the STP tour when he started the whole thing with the bluesy National bottleneck intro and Mike Henderson did a stunning part with bottleneck to his Silvertone.
That was absolutely stunning! And I'd love to hear that one again!
Yes this "calypso" intro was gorgeous.
But for the main song nothing can beat Montserrat...
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Uhmmm, do you know what calypso sounds like? ;D
I can tell you that blues ain't exactly played on oil drums regularly ;)
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Uhmmm, do you know what calypso sounds like? ;D
I can tell you that blues ain't exactly played on oil drums regularly ;)
That's why i put some quotes around "calypso". I know ait ils note calypso permet se, but th
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WOL may not be popular amongst the fans, but it sure is a LOT of fun to play rhythm guitar too.
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Uhmmm, do you know what calypso sounds like? ;D
I can tell you that blues ain't exactly played on oil drums regularly ;)
That's why i put some quotes around "calypso". I know ait ils note calypso permet se, but th
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So no sax break on sultans, but sax on sailing? Interesting..
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So no sax break on sultans, but sax on sailing? Interesting..
Source?
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So no sax break on sultans, but sax on sailing? Interesting..
Source?
Dr. Flecth
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So no sax break on sultans, but sax on sailing? Interesting..
Source?
Dr. Flecth
Since the Guy
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So no sax break on sultans, but sax on sailing? Interesting..
Source?
Dr. Flecth
Yes, actually Guy was answering my question I was so curious about this.
Sax on STP and aslo on WOL ?? never heard this before... what can possibily a sax add to WOL ? No that I care, I don't like the song, but still, I find this curious. Or Maybe is Nigel also playing flute/tambourin/I don't know what exotic instrument ?
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I'm one of few that actually like Walk of life.
But sax on WOL! :'( :'( :disbelief
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I'm one of few that actually like Walk of life.
But sax on WOL! :'( :'( :disbelief
It's got to the stage I'd rather have WOL than STP or SFA. How bad is that! ;D
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You may find two more pictures over there:
http://www.flickr.com/photos/landrovermena/7947930682/
http://www.flickr.com/photos/landrovermena/7947930582/in/set-72157631446636214
These two pictures can be downloaded at high resolution (2597 x 3896) here: http://newsroom.jaguarlandrover.com/en-in/land-rover/images?ipid=53073&altTemplate=Image%20Pack&from=26
Especially the one with the Strat is worth the download!
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Best version of MFN ever was during the STP tour when he started the whole thing with the bluesy National bottleneck intro and Mike Henderson did a stunning part with bottleneck to his Silvertone.
That was absolutely stunning! And I'd love to hear that one again!
Yes this "calypso" intro was gorgeous.
But for the main song nothing can beat Montserrat...
the best one IMHO is Mandela with NO wah and EC' solo (broking a string)
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Yes to MFN although I don't miss it too much. I still had fun with that one in 2005.
But definitve no no for WOL - can't stand it anymore unless EC join to add some blistering guitar licks.
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Mandela is the best WOL version IMHO
well... Mandela is almost best versions for all songs IMHO ;D
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Uhmmm, do you know what calypso sounds like? ;D
I can tell you that blues ain't exactly played on oil drums regularly ;)
That's why i put some quotes around "calypso". I know ait ils note calypso permet se, but th
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My favourite versions of MFN were the pre-Steinberger versions from the BIA tour. The back-to-basics thing, the freshness, the energy, nothing fancy or trying to over-elaborate. Played the way it was supposed to be played with great sounding guitar and that 80s sound that is the signature of this song. This is the way it was meant to be played and it was never bettered.
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My favourite versions of MFN were the pre-Steinberger versions from the BIA tour. The back-to-basics thing, the freshness, the energy, nothing fancy or trying to over-elaborate. Played the way it was supposed to be played with great sounding guitar and that 80s sound that is the signature of this song. This is the way it was meant to be played and it was never bettered.
Wembley'85 was excellent, full of energy. Better than Live Aid with Sting... :)
But, nobody's gonna stand for Montserrat version with me ? so much energy and change in the sound...
You'll tell me there is no intro, but anyway I think they never got the intro quite right, other than on the studio version with remains hard to beat.
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WOL may not be popular amongst the fans, but it sure is a LOT of fun to play rhythm guitar too.
Whether "the fans" like it or not, I'm sure WOL would be the most enjoyable one to the audience.
It's sure a great song if you don't wear it out. Fun to play as well.
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There are songs that are not needed anymore in the setlist, WOL and MFN are two of them.
Actually I think that I won
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But, nobody's gonna stand for Montserrat version with me ? so much energy and change in the sound...
Count me in but the sound was badly recorded on that night. Also fantastic version of SOB. The guitar solo on "The End" was total cacophony with everybody buried in the mix.
Edit : SOB = Same Old Blues ;D
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But, nobody's gonna stand for Montserrat version with me ? so much energy and change in the sound...
Count me in but the sound was badly recorded on that night. Also fantastic version of SOB. The guitar solo on "The End" was total cacophony with everybody buried in the mix.
Edit : SOB = Same Old Blues ;D
I agree; the sound was terrible.
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But, nobody's gonna stand for Montserrat version with me ? so much energy and change in the sound...
Count me in but the sound was badly recorded on that night. Also fantastic version of SOB. The guitar solo on "The End" was total cacophony with everybody buried in the mix.
Edit : SOB = Same Old Blues ;D
Try the DTS audio track on your DVD payer and tell me if the sound ils terrible.:)
I agree; the sound was terrible.
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But, nobody's gonna stand for Montserrat version with me ? so much energy and change in the sound...
Count me in but the sound was badly recorded on that night. Also fantastic version of SOB. The guitar solo on "The End" was total cacophony with everybody buried in the mix.
Edit : SOB = Same Old Blues ;D
Try the DTS audio track on your DVD payer and tell me if the sound ils terrible.:)
I agree; the sound was terrible.
I still have the VHS recorded from the very night. I remember it was on Sky pay per view. It cost
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I guess the VHS is th same as the 2001 DVD, without DTS sound.
The DVD was re-released in 2004 with dts and the sound was way better
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I guess the VHS is th same as the 2001 DVD, without DTS sound.
The DVD was re-released in 2004 with dts and the sound was way better
I get the first DVD edition without DTS track and I have no DTS equipment.
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I guess the VHS is th same as the 2001 DVD, without DTS sound.
The DVD was re-released in 2004 with dts and the sound was way better
I get the first DVD edition without DTS track and I have no DTS equipment.
You do note need a 5.1 system to enjoy th
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I guess the VHS is th same as the 2001 DVD, without DTS sound.
The DVD was re-released in 2004 with dts and the sound was way better
I get the first DVD edition without DTS track and I have no DTS equipment.
You do note need a 5.1 system to enjoy th
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I guess the VHS is th same as the 2001 DVD, without DTS sound.
The DVD was re-released in 2004 with dts and the sound was way better
I get the first DVD edition without DTS track and I have no DTS equipment.
You do note need a 5.1 system to enjoy th
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I guess the VHS is th same as the 2001 DVD, without DTS sound.
The DVD was re-released in 2004 with dts and the sound was way better
I get the first DVD edition without DTS track and I have no DTS equipment.
You do note need a 5.1 system to enjoy th
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know the feeling from the ipad...got 4 keyboards preset, but tend to forget to switch...
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Great photos...
(http://i179.photobucket.com/albums/w283/davey1272250/7EAB062C-ECC4-4662-9B68-248060B3E86A-121-00000006B8D6E4D2.jpg)
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Is that a new shirt? :lol
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Wow, what a great photograph that is :)
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WOL may not be popular amongst the fans, but it sure is a LOT of fun to play rhythm guitar too.
Whether "the fans" like it or not, I'm sure WOL would be the most enjoyable one to the audience.
It's sure a great song if you don't wear it out. Fun to play as well.
You are right. It's all about expectations. Fortunate people like you, who manage to go to dozens of MK concerts, don't bother if the man skips DS hallmarks, like WoL or MfN. You listen to it way too much, lucky bastards. But the average show goer, 80% or + of the audience, who pops up in just one gig at a time, he's goin' to listen to the-guy-who-used-to-wear-that-headband play well-known tunes and fill it up other less interesting stuff.
I've been a pain in the ass by sayin' everytime that I'm from Brazil, but the example fits in. If he - unlikely - happens to come downunder (the other side of it) and doesn't play at least MfN, WoL, SFA, BiA, SoS, there will be blood...
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He don't play this classics for his beloved, die-hard fans but he can play for some rich business man. I'm disappointed :disbelief
As someone wrote in a song called River of Grog, "by day I sell them my soul"...
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He don't play this classics for his beloved, die-hard fans but he can play for some rich business man. I'm disappointed :disbelief
As someone wrote in a song called River of Grog, "by day I sell them my soul"...
I can't agree to that. He let us know during several interviews in the last years that he looks at his Dire Straits hits as an important part of his (and his fans life), but that the solo stuff is more important to him. So you could also say he fobs those business men off with them oldies, but keeps the real interesting, new and fresh stuff for the "real" fans.
LE
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According to Guy, Nigel Hitchcock was there just for the Range Rover show...
A pitty as I can see him playing sax in many of the blues songs instead the harp, and it will work for sure!
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According to Guy, Nigel Hitchcock was there just for the Range Rover show...
A pitty as I can see him playing sax in many of the blues songs instead the harp, and it will work for sure!
That would be good, and replacing Mike with Nigel could give some of the songs a new lease of life with a sax in them instead of the usual folky pipes and whistles which are getting a little monotonous now.
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Nonono, n o sax...
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Maybe Nigel was playing with a view to possibly using him on the 2013 tour...
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I wonder if playing the classics was a sine-qua-non condition for inviting him to the event
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Never understood that line really. There is some more talk about fish and fry in another song of the album, isn't it? ::)
LE
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I wonder if playing the classics was a sine-qua-non condition for inviting him to the event
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They wanted to promote the Britishness of the car and thought that traditional/classic famous songs thought of as quintessentially British by a British band/artist would be ideal to promote this idea.
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Never understood that line really. There is some more talk about fish and fry in another song of the album, isn't it? ::)
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"Fish fry" = a place that sells fried fish, a small restaurant. So: For a little something, he'll play anywhere. Or if you look at the RR setlist: Anything.
I don't mind him playing a couple of Dire Straits hits, but it seems a bit sad to have a new, chart-topping album out and not play a single song from it. If they really should have said: Play this and this and this, and nothing else, he should have told them to go and shove their money (and car) up their ***. Nothing against Range Rovers, but that's how I see it.
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We should wait for the set lists of the Secret gig(s). This RangeRover thing should not be overrated. I guess Mark has another modus when it comes to corporated gigs... it is just... for money. I still think that is says something (positive) about him that he plays "only old stuff" at a corporated gig...
LE
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Never understood that line really. There is some more talk about fish and fry in another song of the album, isn't it? ::)
LE
"Fish fry" = a place that sells fried fish, a small restaurant. So: For a little something, he'll play anywhere. Or if you look at the RR setlist: Anything.
Fish fries in the U.S. are popular - usually Friday events where a restaurant has a low cost "fish special" or a church or civic group sponsors one as a fund raiser.
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Thanks!!! ;) ;)
Hmmm getting hungry....
LE
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We should wait for the set lists of the Secret gig(s). This RangeRover thing should not be overrated. I guess Mark has another modus when it comes to corporated gigs... it is just... for money. I still think that is says something (positive) about him that he plays "only old stuff" at a corporated gig...
LE
Or negative depending on whether you would like to hear the old ones again or not.
It is also negative in that it dispels the belief that MK isn't interested in money and only in the music.
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MK brings in a sax player but doesn't play Your Latest Trick... Vintage Mark ;D
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I wonder if playing the classics was a sine-qua-non condition for inviting him to the event
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Great photos...
And this has been my new desktop in my office:
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You need to make the audience happy, whoever they are.
I agree with everything, Dusty, but not with that. Great artists, especially if they're in a position like Mark's, don't just deliver what the audience expects. The do what they think is the right thing to do. If there's an audience for that, great. If not, too bad. Listen to the lyrics of "Follow the Ribbon", he says it all there. Now he just has to live up to it. :lol
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You need to make the audience happy, whoever they are.
I agree with everything, Dusty, but not with that. Great artists, especially if they're in a position like Mark's, don't just deliver what the audience expects. The do what they think is the right thing to do. If there's an audience for that, great. If not, too bad. Listen to the lyrics of "Follow the Ribbon", he says it all there. Now he just has to live up to it. :lol
It is a little tricky. Mark (and Guy) once uttered that "of course" they absolutely do NOT play for the audience - but only for themselves - because: As long as they like what they do themselves, it will spill over to the audience and the show/performance will benefit from that. So of course they have in mind that there are 500 - 15 000 people who have to be entertained - and the show has to be successful in the sense that there is good vibe and atmosphere - but it comes NOT from playing what the audience wants. It comes from pleasing themselves, getting very happy about that and showing and transporting that happiness to the audience.
That is why set list changes do not automatically mean better atmosphere. As long as Mark is happy playing Done With Bonaparte, you will see him smiling on stage (and the band members, too), and it will be what Mark would call "good concert".
".that would mean doing it for money..." Mark stated at the "Life In Songs" documentary. A corporate gig seems to be nothing but doing it for money.... so that made me thinking more than the unusual set list... But maybe it was an honour to play for RR, can't comment on that,... or it was a personal friendship thing, OR Mark donates everything that he gets for corporate things anyway.... so I can not judge really about that!
LE
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You need to make the audience happy, whoever they are.
I agree with everything, Dusty, but not with that. Great artists, especially if they're in a position like Mark's, don't just deliver what the audience expects. The do what they think is the right thing to do. If there's an audience for that, great. If not, too bad. Listen to the lyrics of "Follow the Ribbon", he says it all there. Now he just has to live up to it. :lol
It is a little tricky. Mark (and Guy) once uttered that "of course" they absolutely do NOT play for the audience - but only for themselves - because: As long as they like what they do themselves, it will spill over to the audience and the show/performance will benefit from that. So of course they have in mind that there are 500 - 15 000 people who have to be entertained - and the show has to be successful in the sense that there is good vibe and atmosphere - but it comes NOT from playing what the audience wants. It comes from pleasing themselves, getting very happy about that and showing and transporting that happiness to the audience.
That is why set list changes do not automatically mean better atmosphere. As long as Mark is happy playing Done With Bonaparte, you will see him smiling on stage (and the band members, too), and it will be what Mark would call "good concert".
".that would mean doing it for money..." Mark stated at the "Life In Songs" documentary. A corporate gig seems to be nothing but doing it for money.... so that made me thinking more than the unusual set list... But maybe it was an honour to play for RR, can't comment on that,... or it was a personal friendship thing, OR Mark donates everything that he gets for corporate things anyway.... so I can not judge really about that!
LE
Nice poste, LE ! My feelings exactly.
If Mark wanted the audience to go hysterical, I'm sure he perfectly knows what to do: play TOL, OES, Skateaway, WDYTYRG... The fact that he is not doing it shows that he does what he preaches: if I don't enjoy it, you won't. Now the reason why he would not enjoy playing TOL (which is clearly one of his top 5 songs and certainly the one he has more personal connections with) is a mystery to me. He has not become tired of it, just listen to the recent "Life is Songs" documentary, MK cheerfully mentions the song, with his life "like being on a rollercoaster". In the STP EPK DVD MK talks long about the spanish city and stuff.... So why, Mark ?? Don't say you can't do it... I'm sure you could. Even if it is a more laid-back version....
Re doing for money, I think Guy stated that Mark was happy, as a Patriot, to support the british car industry. And yes we don't know what he does with the money, so, who are we to judge ? He should have played Setting me up though - time to get the sport cars out, boys... :)
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I find Mark's oft-repeated statement that he's got to please himself problematic.
One the one hand, he's in a position financially and artistically to do exactly whatever he wants, and I also think that Mark is terrible at pretending, meaning that his displeasure or boredom clearly will shine through, as was evident during the end of the long DS tours. So as long as Mark has a good day at the job, chances are that his enjoyment will spill over to the audience.
On the other hand, there's no denying this attitude comes across as very selfish. He must know how much the fans are longing to hear some of the old gems. Maybe they are not gems to him anymore, but here I agree with some of the comments on Guy's forum, the fans have after all made it possible for him to be where he is today. If he can dig out the played-to-death hits at a slick corporate show - which clearly shows that he can when he wants - why not dig out those treasures to audiences that would go absolutely bananas, not for fancy pants sipping to their martinis while nodding their heads to Walk Of Life, going "Yeah, 85 was a good year"? Wouldn't that tremendous excitement among the audience feed back to Mark, making him having a great day at the job?
I definitely think so. But maybe he fears it, maybe he'd feel as some kind of defeat that the audience would be more thrilled by the "old stuff" ("going back") than the newer songs ("looking forward")?
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Pasta Strainer - my understanding of the setlist for the RR show is that Mark played the DS songs that he regularly puts into the setlists of his usual shows. No DS "rarities" for the martini swillers.
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Well, my point exactly - if he can play those over-played hits for a crowd like this (I can't imagine he gets a kick out of this), why can't he pull out some of the rarities for the faithful fans who pay their hard-earned money to see him? Which for sure would generate near-hysteria in the audience :)
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I asked Guy Fletcher (on his forum) why they didn't play anything new, and all he said was:
"A Straits setlist was decided upon."
Well, I GUESS! But by whom, and why?! He must be embarrassed by the fact himself ... ::)
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Typical Fletcher answer.
Same as "I'll ask Ian" -
Ok. But why not tell us also what Ian answered? I bet he forgot about doing it at the same second the "n" of "Ian" was typed...
LE
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I did not bother to ask Guy as I was sure he was not the one to be asked.
Mark could tell us but unfortunatley he remains unreachable.
Better try on RR side if you know the right person to ask about...
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I asked Guy Fletcher (on his forum) why they didn't play anything new, and all he said was:
"A Straits setlist was decided upon."
Well, I GUESS! But by whom, and why?! He must be embarrassed by the fact himself ... ::)
I am pretty sure Mark was hired and paid to play Dire Straits songs, and only that. He was paid to do a job, and he did what he was told... Probably.
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Its not the first time MK plays a private concert for money...
I think it was during Shangrila tour that he played for bankers in London, and also a setlist full of DS songs.
And whats that money for? I mean, does he need to do it? I dont know and dont mind, he
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Its not the first time MK plays a private concert for money...
I think it was during Shangrila tour that he played for bankers in London, and also a setlist full of DS songs.
And whats that money for? I mean, does he need to do it? I dont know and dont mind, he
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Its not the first time MK plays a private concert for money...
I think it was during Shangrila tour that he played for bankers in London, and also a setlist full of DS songs.
And whats that money for? I mean, does he need to do it? I dont know and dont mind, he
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Its not the first time MK plays a private concert for money...
I think it was during Shangrila tour that he played for bankers in London, and also a setlist full of DS songs.
And whats that money for? I mean, does he need to do it? I dont know and dont mind, he
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Its not the first time MK plays a private concert for money...
I think it was during Shangrila tour that he played for bankers in London, and also a setlist full of DS songs.
And whats that money for? I mean, does he need to do it? I dont know and dont mind, he
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Its not the first time MK plays a private concert for money...
I think it was during Shangrila tour that he played for bankers in London, and also a setlist full of DS songs.
And whats that money for? I mean, does he need to do it? I dont know and dont mind, he
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Hitchcock in and White out. I suspect Chris and the Straits has seriously pissed MK off.
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Its not the first time MK plays a private concert for money...
I think it was during Shangrila tour that he played for bankers in London, and also a setlist full of DS songs.
And whats that money for? I mean, does he need to do it? I dont know and dont mind, he
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Hitchcock in and White out. I suspect Chris and the Straits has seriously pissed MK off.
For sure.... and I find his feeling very right....
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Who says "the fans" want to hear all these DS songs? I'm a fan. I have no desire to hear Money for Nothing again.
MK has been playing decreasing numbers of DS songs since 96, and yet people keep coming back. If they weren't happy, they wouldn't.
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who says he bags the money? i believe he is like gilmour, giving money to charity without publicising it.
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Who says "the fans" want to hear all these DS songs? I'm a fan. I have no desire to hear Money for Nothing again.
MK has been playing decreasing numbers of DS songs since 96, and yet people keep coming back. If they weren't happy, they wouldn't.
I
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Usually his compass works very well (I like what he says about talent shows), but here it twirled a bit (and more so when he played for the bankers in 2005).
He could at least have donated the money from the RR event to this Rhino initiative
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Usually his compass works very well (I like what he says about talent shows), but here it twirled a bit (and more so when he played for the bankers in 2005).
He could at least have donated the money from the RR event to this Rhino initiative
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It makes me still a strange feeling when I read that Mark plays for a corporate or "1000
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I have no problem with the fact that he plays for Range Rover, or for bankers. If they want to hear him, cool! What disturbs me is that he lets them tell him what he should play.
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I think that he is not told to. When you have such offer it is implicit that the public you play for would not enjoy the solo stuff as much as the big hits.
Mark is in a postion to turn it down if he doesn't feel to play that game. he plays for the pleasure of the public and this public is not the usual one.
It would make no sense to accept and play the solo stuff leaving the public unsatisfied. Mark like to play for an happy audience. And his lucky to have otherwise appreciative one for the solo stuff.
But even then the biggest ovations he get them mainly for the performed DS stuff, R&J, SOS and TR.
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I have no problem with the fact that he plays for Range Rover, or for bankers. If they want to hear him, cool! What disturbs me is that he lets them tell him what he should play.
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Mark doesn't need that. He's one of the richest people in the business. But GF always manages to come up with the perfect excuse for each exception.
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I think that he is not told to. When you have such offer it is implicit that the public you play for would not enjoy the solo stuff as much as the big hits.
Mark is in a postion to turn it down if he doesn't feel to play that game. he plays for the pleasure of the public and this public is not the usual one.
It would make no sense to accept and play the solo stuff leaving the public unsatisfied. Mark like to play for an happy audience. And his lucky to have otherwise appreciative one for the solo stuff.
But even then the biggest ovations he get them mainly for the performed DS stuff, R&J, SOS and TR.
Yes.
I think he did it not for money, not for the rich, but to support his country's automotive industry in this period of crisis.
Playing solo stuff is not the easiest for him to get sucessuful. As you said the biggest ovations are for DS stuff. Just think what kind of ovations he would get if he played TOL, PI, or OES. The fact that he is not doing it shows that he does not choose the easiest way, but the one he finds fit in a given situation...
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I have no problem with the fact that he plays for Range Rover, or for bankers. If they want to hear him, cool! What disturbs me is that he lets them tell him what he should play.
I suspect there are no great music experts at RR that would give Mark a setlist and ask him to play it. MK is more likely to have asked RR who the audience are and come up with the setlist himself.