A Mark In Time
Previous Albums => Privateering (2012) => Topic started by: xxFordiexx on September 10, 2012, 07:04:31 PM
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Lets see how well Mark's new album does. I'll start with the UK and our Man comes in the chart at number 6.
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Lets see how well Mark's new album does. I'll start with the UK and our Man comes in the chart at number 6.
He was at #8 on the Official Charts, xxFordiexx. :-\
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Not according to the radio 1 official chart..... he's number 6.... Anyway still great that he got in top 10 imo :) He's going number one in some countries too :)
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7th in Finland
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Not according to the radio 1 official chart..... he's number 6.... Anyway still great that he got in top 10 imo :) He's going number one in some countries too :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/albums
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No word of a lie Val I checked that same page before posting and I swear we were at number 6!!!!!! how weird..... hmmmmm
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Netherlands 8)
http://dutchcharts.nl/weekchart.asp?cat=a (http://dutchcharts.nl/weekchart.asp?cat=a)
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Netherlands 8)
http://dutchcharts.nl/weekchart.asp?cat=a (http://dutchcharts.nl/weekchart.asp?cat=a)
haha, that is awesome :)
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Not according to the radio 1 official chart..... he's number 6.... Anyway still great that he got in top 10 imo :) He's going number one in some countries too :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/albums
It was here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19537244 I must have read it.... they must have got it wrong. Ah well still top ten :)
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Number 1 in Norway
http://lista.vg.no/liste/topp-40-album/2 (http://lista.vg.no/liste/topp-40-album/2)
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Not according to the radio 1 official chart..... he's number 6.... Anyway still great that he got in top 10 imo :) He's going number one in some countries too :)
http://www.bbc.co.uk/radio1/chart/albums
It was here http://www.bbc.co.uk/news/entertainment-arts-19537244 I must have read it.... they must have got it wrong. Ah well still top ten :)
It doesn't matter, xxFordiexx, top ten's fine! Maybe #6 next week" ;)
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It's in my CD player the whole time since release day so it is position no 1 - at LE's home! ;D
LE
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Germany #1 Album Charts , that is a pretty huge success, because Germany is an important market indeed
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Germany #1 Album Charts , that is a pretty huge success, because Germany is an important market indeed
Where did you find this information?
LE
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http://www.klatsch-tratsch.de/2012/09/10/mark-knopfler-erobert-mit-privateering-platz-1-der-deutschen-charts/129415
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This is great news of course but I must say I am amazed by this. Almost no promo and, let's say an uncool artist combined with music that is not currently in vogue all add up to poor sales and yet it's a chart topper! I'll say it again - amazing! :o
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Hey, thanks, AB!
Well, there was not too much big competition this week, so it seemed quite easy for him to get the top position... Well, done, Marky, nonetheless!
LE
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i never saw really empty seats in the venues i visited (even the huge venues like cologne, mannheim or berlin), so Mark is still one of the "most wanted" artists in the world, i was on concerts other artists that did not achieve a sold out venue
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I was talking about this with a friend only yesterday:
Since I am going to his concerts and since I take care about pre-sales and stuff I never saw a planned show cancelled or delayed or moved into another venue - apart from the 2003 tour of course - six nights at the RAH planned, six nights sold out, big o2 Arenas booked, and always (as good as) sold out...
I remember Dire Straits in Australia and stuff, but I am talking about the last 15 years which had a lot of touring included - and Mark always did everything, every announced show, like a real trooper - no 70 minutes gigs, no deficits of any kind - just read and look at the so called younger super star, and you see how reMARKable that is...
So he has a very loyal AND big fanbase - and a very good tour management obviously...
LE
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my deepest respect for mark on the last tour with his back. i had the same 6 years ago and every step is pain you can
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It's in my CD player the whole time since release day so it is position no 1 - at LE's home! ;D
LE
Haha LE, you make me laugh! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Roflbig.gif)
When I am behind the computer, I listen to the new CD's as well whole the time.
In fact the more often I listen, the more I start to LOVE the album!
Here is some extra information about the solo-albums of Mark in the Dutch charts in the past:
http://www.entertainmentbusiness.nl/nieuws/2012-W36/mark-knopfler-scoort-eerste-solo-nummer-1-notering
Fieneke
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http://www.klatsch-tratsch.de/2012/09/10/mark-knopfler-erobert-mit-privateering-platz-1-der-deutschen-charts/129415
Klatsch-Tratsch? How reliable is this site? ;D ;D ;D
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As DMG says, amazing results. Especially top ten here in the UK, with pretty much zero promotion.
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It's in my CD player the whole time since release day so it is position no 1 - at LE's home! ;D
LE
Haha LE, you make me laugh! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/Roflbig.gif)
When I am behind the computer, I listen to the new CD's as well whole the time.
In fact the more often I listen, the more I start to LOVE the album!
Here is some extra information about the solo-albums of Mark in the Dutch charts in the past:
http://www.entertainmentbusiness.nl/nieuws/2012-W36/mark-knopfler-scoort-eerste-solo-nummer-1-notering
Fieneke
It says: De 2cd bevat twintig tracks waaronder de eerste single Kingdom Of Gold
English: The 2cd contains 20 songs including the first single Kingdom Of Gold :o
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Even here in Oz with nil airplay and only 1 tour since 1992 Privateering, has a debut at #25 with a bullet. The highest solo position for MK solo since STP in 2000 @ # 16. I
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It's so good to see these chart results in all the different countries . . even in these times there will always be demand for quality music, and Privateering is absolutely top quality!
I'm kind of out of touch with the charts, but I wonder what sort of actual numbers of units sold we are talking about to get in the charts? Maybe there's somewhere on the web where it is possible to find out.
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Klatsch-Tratsch? How reliable is this site? ;D ;D ;D
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it is.
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Charts is not exactly number of units sold. If there are only sold 10 units in a week and you sold 5 you're definately on number one.
So you can't figure the sales from the charts.
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It seems he is also No1 in Austria and No2 in Spain and also No2 in Switzerland. In terms of chart placings this could be his most successful album to date. With barely any promotion!!.
Privateering racked up 10800 sales to attain No8 in the UK
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It seems he is also No1 in Austria and No2 in Spain and also No2 in Switzerland. In terms of chart placings this could be his most successful album to date. With barely any promotion!!.
Privateering racked up 10800 sales to attain No8 in the UK
Amazing how few sales you need to get a top 10 album in the UK these days.
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where does the UK info come from? (number of sales i mean)
i wrote to guy asking who (of PCM) would be able to give us all historical sales figures.
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It's on this forum http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=5 Great site. Look under UK charts
The figure was 10,973 sold last week, in the UK.
If i remember correctly, Get Lucky sold 13,000 in it's first week in the UK, and around 24,000 in the US first week.
Its all in the forum somewhere, There is even a MK/DS sales thread .
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In Spain it's on #2 in the first week.
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It's on this forum http://www.ukmix.org/forums/viewforum.php?f=5 Great site. Look under UK charts
The figure was 10,973 sold last week, in the UK.
If i remember correctly, Get Lucky sold 13,000 in it's first week in the UK, and around 24,000 in the US first week.
Its all in the forum somewhere, There is even a MK/DS sales thread .
Thanks rosco, that's interesting stuff . . just the info that I was looking for
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;)Portugal 13 position
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In France, only #10 with about 5000 sold...
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In France, only #10 with about 5000 sold...
#10 on the physical market with 4.895 sales , #15 on digital market.
I count for 1 on physical so who are the 4.894 others?
(this figure is ridiculous, being in the top ten with under 5.000 sales).
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I count for 1 on physical so who are the 4.894 others?
count me in :D
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Officially, no. 2 in Italy and Switzerland ;)
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Maybe, we should sum up the chart positions:
Germany: 1
Norway: 1
Austria: 1
Finland: 1
Netherlands: 1
Switzerland: 2
Spain: 2
Italy: 2
UK: 8
France: 10
Portugal: 13
Any more? Please add...
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Best chart positions since STP?
But that's 12 years since then. I guess he needed to sell a lot more copies then as he does these days to reach these positions...
1,2 million STP? Is that right?
LE
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Best chart positions since STP?
But that's 12 years since then. I guess he needed to sell a lot more copies then as he does these days to reach these positions...
1,2 million STP? Is that right?
LE
Privateering will probably be around that figure in a couple of years from now, it will have sold over 100,000 in the UK by then, and if its similar to GL, approx 200-250,000 in the USA. The worldwide sales will be close to 1.2m . Year end 2006 ATRR sold 673,000 ww, (It will be well over the million by now), Privateering will follow roughly the same i would think.
I saw a soundscan figure for GL in the USA a year or so ago on the UKMIX forum, it was about 200k IIRC.
Heres a few more chart placings-
N Zealand-3
Poland-4
Czech/Slovak-5
Hungry-10
Ireland-25
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The Chart Position of Privateering in Germany (but I think it
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peoples, what is with me homecountry? la belgique?
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peoples, what is with me homecountry? la belgique?
Arno will sell more copies than MK !!! lol
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Just found this
http://www.mediatraffic.de/albums-week38-2012.htm
Privateering in place 5 world wide with 84.000 copies
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I just got a mail of Google, telling that Bob Dylan's new album Tempest is at number 1 in the album top 100 and Mark is now at the 3th place! :disbelief
I don't like that and wished Mark would still be at the first place! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/confused01-1.gif)
http://www.dutchcharts.nl/weekchart.asp?cat=a
Fieneke
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Mark would like it, I am sure!! :)
LE
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I just got a mail of Google, telling that Bob Dylan's new album Tempest is at number 1 in the album top 100 and Mark is now at the 3th place! :disbelief
I don't like that and wished Mark would still be at the first place! (http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v510/Fieneke2/Emoticons/confused01-1.gif)
http://www.dutchcharts.nl/weekchart.asp?cat=a
Fieneke
Screw you, Dylan!!!
;D
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that list with worldwide charts has really low numbers....
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that list with worldwide charts has really low numbers....
I remember that get lucky has 93.000 the first week in this same page
so 84.000 for a doble album with no promotion and no u.s sales its really great
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that list with worldwide charts has really low numbers....
I remember that get lucky has 93.000 the first week in this same page
so 84.000 for a doble album with no promotion and no u.s sales its really great
Agreed. ;)
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In Sweden it's at second place, right after Tempest.
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The fact that it is a double album is showing in the fact only that the price of the CD is 2 Euros more than a usual album. 16,99
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The good part is, when it is certified it will count double because it is a two disc set. i.e if it sells 125,000 in the UK, it will be certified as 250,000 discs sold and certified accordingly. The same for other countries as well.
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The good part is, when it is certified it will count double because it is a two disc set. i.e if it sells 125,000 in the UK, it will be certified as 250,000 discs sold and certified accordingly. The same for other countries as well.
They will surely count "units" sold. ???
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Strange the album moved to 7th place in official french charts.
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The good part is, when it is certified it will count double because it is a two disc set. i.e if it sells 125,000 in the UK, it will be certified as 250,000 discs sold and certified accordingly. The same for other countries as well.
They will surely count "units" sold. ???
I'll try and find out, i know that the RIAA in the USA, will count "double" in terms of certified sales, i know there are other countries that follow suit, i assumed UK was one of them .
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Hi,
Mark's new album is second after the first week here in Denmark :D
Why not first next week ?. ;D
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In Sweden it's at second place, right after Tempest.
Where do you find that list Maxx?
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In Sweden it's at second place, right after Tempest.
Where do you find that list Maxx?
http://www.sverigetopplistan.se/
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Still No.8 in the UK charts this week: ;D
http://www.officialcharts.com/albums-chart/
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Still No.8 in the UK charts this week: ;D
http://www.officialcharts.com/albums-chart/
No, that was last week's list unfortunately, knopflerfan. The new list will be out at 7pm and I expect BD to be # 1 :-\
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Doh - well done Val - I was getting excited!!! Oh well I'll post the 'new' one soon then....
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MK at #19 in the UK this week! But surprise, surprise - Dylan only made #3
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In the UK 'Privateering' is now 19th... with Mr Bob No.3 :disbelief
http://www.officialcharts.com/albums-chart/
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Interesting that old fogies like MK & BD are near the top of the worldwide charts. Come on youngsters! This is embarrassing!
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Interesting that old fogies like MK & BD are near the top of the worldwide charts. Come on youngsters! This is embarrassing!
That's because we oldies are the only ones who BUY CD's and pay for downloads. The youngsters download a lot illegal I think
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Interesting that old fogies like MK & BD are near the top of the worldwide charts. Come on youngsters! This is embarrassing!
That's because we oldies are the only ones who BUY CD's and pay for downloads. The youngsters download a lot illegal I think
That's right . Some even pay for a 60
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Any up-to-date news on chart positions eg 2nd week in Germany, etc? ???
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Interesting that old fogies like MK & BD are near the top of the worldwide charts. Come on youngsters! This is embarrassing!
That's because we oldies are the only ones who BUY CD's and pay for downloads. The youngsters download a lot illegal I think
That's right . Some even pay for a 60
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Interesting that old fogies like MK & BD are near the top of the worldwide charts. Come on youngsters! This is embarrassing!
That's because we oldies are the only ones who BUY CD's and pay for downloads. The youngsters download a lot illegal I think
That's right . Some even pay for a 60
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Interesting that old fogies like MK & BD are near the top of the worldwide charts. Come on youngsters! This is embarrassing!
That's because we oldies are the only ones who BUY CD's and pay for downloads. The youngsters download a lot illegal I think
That's right . Some even pay for a 60
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i would've happily paid the 60bucks for the whole thing, including the amazon bonus, that would've indeed been a great package.
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Any up-to-date news on chart positions eg 2nd week in Germany, etc? ???
It's no 4 now, Dylan is new at no2 . Someone called Billy Talent is new at no1
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2ND week, seems to be like this, so far-
32- Australia
6- Swizterland
7- Austria
2- Norway
3-Netherlands
2-Sweden(1st week??)
2- Belgium(last week no8)
The sales in Belgium have increased. The USA chart should be out tomorrow. Going by the apparent limited availability in the US, it might struggle to be top100 never mind top 30!! His albums are usually top 50 over there. I think his last couple were top 30 ?
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How can he make US charts as the album is not released there?
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How can he make US charts as the album is not released there?
I never knew that. Well he,s not going to make the charts unless import sales are large. Nice
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French chart :
- physical market : dropped to 12th place for its second week (was 7th)
- digital market : not classified - out of the top 50 (was 15th)
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Norwegian chart positions week 3: MK is down to 4th behind His Bobness (1), Kari Bremnes (a Norwegian artist) (2) and The Killers (3).
So the official Norwegian chart positions for Privateering for the first three weeks: 1-2-4
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Did they count together the 2-cd-edition, the deluxe and the super-deluxe-edition ? Amazon.de doesn`t. That
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Hi,
Mark's new album is second after the first week here in Denmark :D
Why not first next week ?. ;D
Privateering is third after two weeks in Denmark. Dylan is number one............
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Third week in french chart : 31st
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Third week in UK - 32
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Did they count together the 2-cd-edition, the deluxe and the super-deluxe-edition ? Amazon.de doesn`t. That
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The Netherlands at nr 5 in the 3th week
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Did they count together the 2-cd-edition, the deluxe and the super-deluxe-edition ? Amazon.de doesn`t. That
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Germany
First week: 1
second: 4
Third: 6
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My car
Number 1 since it was released
;D
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My car
Number 1 since it was released
;D
I thought you were talking about In My Car for a minute! :lol
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My car
Number 1 since it was released
;D
I thought you were talking about In My Car for a minute! :lol
I knew I would catch someone in my web ;D :lol
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I think this is not an album to be listened in the car, but at home, good earsets or a good HI FI.
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My car
Number 1 since it was released
;D
+1 The only time I've ejected one of the discs..is to put the other one in. And as far as playing it in the car goes...often...and LOUD..especially "Blood and Water", "Yon two crows", "Got to have something" and "Bluebird"
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Got to have something is a Dylan song. :lol Ramblin and tumblin reincarnated with other lyrics and production.
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Guess you mean Rollin' an tumblin'?
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So you think that it is the same as well? ;D
Yes that is the one I meant, but I intentionally changed the word, thus creating a new song as Dylan has. :P
Neil Young did the same with "Are you ready for the country" Check them out, one after the other and you'll understand.
Beyond here lies nothin'-Dylan--All your love-Otis Rush etc.
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So you think that it is the same as well? ;D
Yes that is the one I meant, but I intentionally changed the word, thus creating a new song as Dylan has. :P
Neil Young did the same with "Are you ready for the country" Check them out, one after the other and you'll understand.
Beyond here lies nothin'-Dylan--All your love-Otis Rush etc.
LOL vgonis! Masses of artists have done the same - Eric Clapton, Bob Dylan, Robert Johnson - even Guy's Bluesband and I think Can't Be Satisfied is another take on the original - the list is endless! ;D
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So you think that it is the same as well? ;D
Yes that is the one I meant, but I intentionally changed the word, thus creating a new song as Dylan has. :P
Neil Young did the same with "Are you ready for the country" Check them out, one after the other and you'll understand.
Beyond here lies nothin'-Dylan--All your love-Otis Rush etc.
LOL vgonis! Masses of artists have done the same - Eric Clapton, Bob Dylan, Robert Johnson - even Guy's Bluesband and I think Can't Be Satisfied is another take on the original - the list is endless! ;D
Be a leader, not a follower. ;)
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I must be complaining a lot, but I just think that only these bigger than life artists can get away with it. And it is not fair for the original composers, not just for the money they lose, but because the unsuspected audience doesn't get to listen to the (sometimes) far superior "sources of inspiration". It is different to do a version and name the original composer. This way they get the credit, money, recognition and a new audience.
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I must be complaining a lot, but I just think that only these bigger than life artists can get away with it. And it is not fair for the original composers, not just for the money they lose, but because the unsuspected audience doesn't get to listen to the (sometimes) far superior "sources of inspiration". It is different to do a version and name the original composer. This way they get the credit, money, recognition and a new audience.
I agree vgonis, but correct me if I'm wrong - R & T was originally by Muddy Waters, unless he heard it elsewhere too and so I presume it is out of copyright now. I had a big problem with Bob Dylan's "Modern Times" where just about every song was originally by someone else (except the lyrics) and none of the composers were credited on that album - just "all songs written by Bob Dylan".
Do you think MK should have credited Muddy Waters (McKinley Morganfield) for the tune ? :-\
EDIT: I have to correct what I have just posted! I see that the earliest version is "Roll & Tumble Blues" by Hambone Willie Newbern in 1929.
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Val, I really believe that you got my point. I don't get the law thing, so I leave it all together out of this discussion. I don't even like to drop the ethics bomb. But it just reminds me of the Monty Python sketch were Palin claims authorship of every Shakespeare work. Well it sounded ridiculous and very funny, but in view of these "new" songs I wonder.
I was only saying that huge artists that want to use something, have to mention the original source, if not for money, for a graceful "hats-off". We are bound by copyright, not freed. Just consider this unlike story: Dylan throwing a lawsuit to our man for stealing his music. :o He has every right since the song has only him as author.
I know that all these have been mentioned before by writers from big magazines and newspapers that can influence the public, and still nothing happened, so who am I to mention such things here.
But for those interested :
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Rollin%27_and_Tumblin%27
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Not gonna fall into the age-old 'who should be credited for what' trap...that argument can go on too infinity. All I know is that "Got to have something" sounds really really good blasting in my car...and I agree with Jbaent that since "Privateering"'s release it has been No. 1...with a bullet...in my car. ;D
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"Oh if there's an original thought out there, I could use it right now"
- "Brownsville Girl" [written by Bob Dyaln with Sam Shepard, 1986]
Dylan took this phrase from an earlier song they wrote called "New Danville Girl", so kind-of copied himself.
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Guess you mean Rollin' an tumblin'?
Or Robert Johnson
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Guess you mean Rollin' an tumblin'?
Or Robert Johnson
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So "Rollin and Tumplin" is even older than "If I had possesions..."?
Interesting fact...
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According to Bob's voice, his version was from 1867... ;D
LE
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UK 4th week - # 35 - only down three places from last week. :)
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Germany: Number 7
Only one down, but there were 5 new entries
So well done Mark
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Turkey number two for now.
http://www.dr.com.tr/Muzik/Privateering/Mark-Knopfler/Albumler/Rock-Music/Rock/urunno=0000000415059
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Germany: Number 7
Only one down, but there were 5 new entries
So well done Mark
After that:
Number 9-15- and now number 20
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Privateering is number 15 at amazon.de, and Tempest number 111 !!!!! I have to admit, that I bought Tempest, too. It`s not as good as P (of course not), but not so bad. No. 111 is really bad for Mr. Bob. Can`t understand, why only so less people buy the new album of BD...
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Mona, it was a logical decline. The hardcore fans bought it on release date and then without any help (apart some rave reviews, no actual airplay or video or European tour) it quickly faded. I guess MK's fate would be similar, if he was as old (not in age but as an artist-his fan base is much younger and his heydays more recent) and rough (no need to elaborate on this one I believe) as Bob, and of course it was as easy to find his album in so many formats. And really, could you find such iconic songs in the new album like Blowin in the wind, or like a rolling stone or even What was that you wanted (I simply love it, and the Willie Nelson version from MSG is fantastic as well)
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Maybe you are right vgonis, my husband is a real BD-fan and likes ONLY the older albums. He doesn`t even like to listen, when I put a new BD-cd in the player ;-) . I have never been an old BD-fan (grew up with ABBA , Saturday Night Fever etc. ;) ), so I can`t really compare it, although I know of course some of the older BD-songs. So ok, he is maybe not as good as in former times - but his new album is better than i.e. Pink, Lena or some compilations, that has better chart-positions...but ok, people have different favourits...
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I like listening to new music as well. It is not easy to like all things, but I keep my ears open. Arcade fire is one of the new bands I like very much and Belle and Sebastian, even though their first album was issued in 1995. The Killers have issued nice albums and songs (actually they did a R&J cover, so they are MK fans as well) but their sound is distant enough from DS or MK. So if you compare all these groups with BD or MK, I can tell you that sometimes I prefer them over the new BD album. I like time out of mind, but Modern times or even Love and theft are a bit ahead of me. But the last BD album I really enjoyed and still play it is Oh Mercy. And you are lucky with your husband! My wife doesn't even have time to listen to older BD records or the latest MK one.
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For anyone still interested.
Privateering was the 6th best selling album in Poland for 2012 and another piece of useless information, it sold just under 16000 in Italy by the end of 2012. :wave
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Anyone got more sales to share?
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Yeah.
In Germany it was Nr. 15 in 2012. Not bad. It was released August 31th.
Copies sold: more than 150.000
But more important: we get a Stratocaster MP3 stick of every Privateering Concert 2013!!!
Wooooooooooow
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Yes just saw it too! 30 Euros each concert x 64 concerts= 1920 Euros And this means no torrents and free live from this tour. For 320 MP3. I might buy one gust for the thrill of it, but I will certainly lose the rest.
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I might buy the first concert. That usually has the longest set list so I'll get more for my money! ;D
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I will put all bootlegs/torrents I find on the Amit hub, join people!
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Any news on US Album positions?
Peak? Already out of billboard 200?
Did the run of gigs help to climb the charts... ;)