A Mark In Time
Mark Knopfler Discussion => Mark Knopfler Discussion Forum => Topic started by: nababo on September 14, 2012, 02:41:49 AM
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Hi there
I've been always reading about a kind of Fade to black's original rythm, changed by MK in the very moment of recording. My question is, is there any available version of this song delivered in the so called Chuck Berry mood? If the answer is yes, where can I find it?
Thanks in advance folks
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I think it's like asking for Sultans of Swing in its original arrangement on an acoustic guitar. Good luck finding that :)
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where did you ever read that?
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Mark told us during the OES promo, I think it was said in the EPK, or how to call this stuff that was in general sent over Europe at all radio stations with this American kind of guy moderator voice...
Mark said it just didn't work, it was more in a Chuck Berry style, pure rock n' roll and when they "just tried" and changed the rhythm, it worked.
He used it as an example for a one or several "one take recordings" on the album, if I remember correctly...
LE
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In the same way, when he played your own sweet way in 2002 at the Mk& friends gigs, he changed the orginal rhythm (shuffle) to straight time
the original Sultans version was composed on the National, but I doubt any recording exist. He changed it to the known version before recording demos in july 77, so the only reoridng which might be existing would be a home recording, on tape recording or so ? but I doubt it
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I have always wondered what alternative versions of DS and MK songs there are in the archives, I know The Beatles have lots, but I'm sure Mark has recorded alternative versions of his songs before they reached the version we now know about.
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There are 2 audience Caf
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JF, if you happen to have a recording of that 2002 show, where he played "Your Own Sweet Way" to a different rhythm, I'd be very interested in hearing it! I love that song.
And about "Fade to Black" being a one-take recording: If that's true, it really shows what an incredible guitarist he was back then.
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I think it's like asking for Sultans of Swing in its original arrangement on an acoustic guitar. Good luck finding that :)
Yeah, it would be hard to decide upon any example of Mark's holy graal of music... Once I've heard he played a little bit of it in an interview, but probably this 8th wonderful does not exist.
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JF, if you happen to have a recording of that 2002 show, where he played "Your Own Sweet Way" to a different rhythm, I'd be very interested in hearing it! I love that song.
And about "Fade to Black" being a one-take recording: If that's true, it really shows what an incredible guitarist he was back then.
+1 (to both paragraphs!)
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JF, if you happen to have a recording of that 2002 show, where he played "Your Own Sweet Way" to a different rhythm, I'd be very interested in hearing it! I love that song.
And about "Fade to Black" being a one-take recording: If that's true, it really shows what an incredible guitarist he was back then.
I remember it was Beaulieu 2002. Can't find it on you tube
I only found the shepperd bush version, but it's in the "normal" rhyhtm :
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GhFGxjLDf_g&playnext=1&list=PL7D6D276840BF04D1&feature=results_video
I'm a quite sure I heard it in straight time. I have the video at home, will check, but I 'm afraid not before monday...
About the one take on FTB, I heard him saying this on a french radio shwo during OES promo : He said they all played "live" together......
.... but maybe wasn't it the "first" take ;)
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That "Your own sweet way" version is from the Ronnie Scotts 98 and 99 concerts.
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That "Your own sweet way" version is from the Ronnie Scotts 98 and 99 concerts.
Well, there's a torrent at LA KnopflerTK from a 1998 NHB Ronnie Scotts' concert. I'll try to download it to check out the different version of Your own sweet way. Thanks for the info!
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Yes Jbaent is right, i made a mistake, the Beaulieu version is in the "normal" rhythm (shuffle)
snape 90 and sawn hunter 93 are also in shuffle rhythm
It's the NHB version from late 90's which is in straight time :
Mark said "we changed it "
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L-jyI4PjoaU
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EzdO75ReMd4
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WzugqChnmXo
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Thanks for posting! And honestly, I couldn't say which version I prefer.
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Thanks for posting! And honestly, I couldn't say which version I prefer.
I consider that one as one of the best live version, july 24th 1999, especially the Chris part
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Thanks for posting! And honestly, I couldn't say which version I prefer.
I consider that one as one of the best live version, july 24th 1999, especially the Chris part
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yes it's indeed very nice, forget my ignorance, but which song is it ?
when I saw the first pic, I said OMG he's playing YOSW on the Les Paul !
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tomorrow night?
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tomorrow night?
Yes, this is not the video that was supposed to be.
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I think it's like asking for Sultans of Swing in its original arrangement on an acoustic guitar. Good luck finding that :)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8KsVtD01cgw
wait, what?
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WOW! Thank you - that was amazing! :D
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Yes, nice. But I always prefered this one - the intro alone is literally a goosebumps-moment:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IKN9c1llqhc&feature=related
:)
LE
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I have seen this one before and it is wonderful, of course, but the first impressed me more because it was entirely solo. ;)
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It seems the first one was inspired by the 1996 version, would you agree?
I hear some Jim piano part in it...
LE
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It seems the first one was inspired by the 1996 version, would you agree?
I hear some Jim piano part in it...
LE
Yes, I thought so too. :)
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nababo I have his interview from Mtv somewhere in a VHS(back from 1991) when he is asked about his songwriting and he answers that some times a song starts differently, like Fade to black, that started like a Chuck Berry number. And then he picks his guitar and plays a few bars no more than 10 -15 seconds. You probably refer to this.
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nababo I have his interview from Mtv somewhere in a VHS(back from 1991) when he is asked about his songwriting and he answers that some times a song starts differently, like Fade to black, that started like a Chuck Berry number. And then he picks his guitar and plays a few bars no more than 10 -15 seconds. You probably refer to this.
Yes, it's probably it. Thanks, Vgonis. When DS released On every street, I'd read and watched a lot of interviews and stuff about the album, but at the time I didn't have ways to collect them - I didn't have a vhs on my own... So many, many things I recall have heard about, but not in which source.
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Here is the piece where Mark tells about changing Fade To Black and he even plays a piece of it!!
It start's at about 5.20
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zYNdVhTE6eo&feature=relmfu
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Here is the piece where Mark tells about changing Fade To Black and he even plays a piece of it!!
It start's at about 5.20
Fantastic TV special. I recorded it when I was 15 and... After 21 years I uploaded it on my Utube channel :wave
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Thanks so much for that. Never seen that before!
Does anyone know when it was recorded? Both Mark and Ed talk about the tour as though it's upcoming, yet there are clips from Randy Quaid in the HF video (which I believe were filmed at a Sheffield '91 show) and also a clip from PONO that was filmed in Ahoy, Rotterdam I think.
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Cannot view it, not allowed in my country blabla
Is there any other way?
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I activated Stealthy add-on for firefox, with that it works, Pottel.
LE
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Cannot view it, not allowed in my country blabla
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It's the one on OUATITTV Vol 5, but a better quality so I'll copy it and dropbox it for you Pottel.
folder - Link:- https://www.dropbox.com/s/77q353qu672ted1/Dire%20Straits%20-%20On%20every%20street%20-%20Special%20TV%20-%20Ita%20Sub.mp4?m
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I have recorded it as well, it is from Mtv special, that played on the first days of the OES release and for at least a week.
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Thanks, Klaas Bouke, very useful!